Jury Watches Bodycam in Knocking Neighbor Murder Trial

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@CourtTV
@CourtTV 28 күн бұрын
#CourtTV - What do YOU think? MORE HERE: www.courttv.com/news/fl-v-susan-lorincz-knocking-neighbor-shooting-trial/?
@delorescampbell2899
@delorescampbell2899 27 күн бұрын
She was worried about her cats and could have cared less about the young lady she just shot!! Heartless! Smh!
@baconbacon3967
@baconbacon3967 26 күн бұрын
"Knocking?" LOL!! DON'T START NONE, WON'T BE NONE.
@CaseyMarie11-11
@CaseyMarie11-11 26 күн бұрын
This woman is pure evil. I can see why she lives alone. I can't imagine she had many close friends/family, being such a hateful person 😡 Then again, maybe if she had friends and family she wouldn't be so damn hateful...
@baconbacon3967
@baconbacon3967 26 күн бұрын
@@CaseyMarie11-11 - I really enjoyed living on my own and many people still do. Did you know that more than 1/2 of NYC are people who live solo, pay their own way, etc? I was surprised by that high number -- but goes to show, it works well for many.
@Usermx2005-.
@Usermx2005-. 24 күн бұрын
@@CaseyMarie11-11 keep your children in your own yard!
@sheilaaskew5486
@sheilaaskew5486 28 күн бұрын
If she was so scared, she wouldn't have the nerve to bother the kids the way that she did. She's full of crap.
@Itsthetruth360
@Itsthetruth360 27 күн бұрын
The officer thinks so, too. See how he's looking at her?19:10
@michele1330
@michele1330 27 күн бұрын
Absolutely!!!!! What a lunatic!
@angiejorah
@angiejorah 27 күн бұрын
@@Itsthetruth360 LOL. The officer has resting Beoutch face. Not evidence.
@angiejorah
@angiejorah 27 күн бұрын
She should have been afraid of the kids then?
@angiejorah
@angiejorah 26 күн бұрын
@@Itsthetruth360 Well you think that you know what people are thinking based on a facial expression.
@musicjenjen
@musicjenjen 27 күн бұрын
She was more worried about her cats than with the woman she murdered.
@angiejorah
@angiejorah 27 күн бұрын
Why should she care about the woman who was threatening her life is dead?
@alfredindy8058
@alfredindy8058 23 күн бұрын
@@angiejorah This comment proves that you consider Susan a subhuman.
@user-xd7ll3ee3m
@user-xd7ll3ee3m 23 күн бұрын
@@angiejorah shame on you for this comment
@angiejorah
@angiejorah 23 күн бұрын
@@user-xd7ll3ee3m shame on our judicial system for putting her in prison for Self-defense.
@mizparker1933
@mizparker1933 23 күн бұрын
Angie sdfu you sound like a racist fool
@Jaymedaisypghgrl23
@Jaymedaisypghgrl23 28 күн бұрын
How can you claim self defense if you shoot through a door??
@jonnieinbangkok
@jonnieinbangkok 28 күн бұрын
Aja was built like a Mack truck...she could barge through that door no problem!
@Hunee-
@Hunee- 28 күн бұрын
@@jonnieinbangkok She didn’t though. Made up lie to defend herself. This woman had no idea who was behind that door besides AJ. Reckless. She could’ve killed a child. Scared my ass. She was harassing those children for quite some time.
@TheRcquint2004
@TheRcquint2004 28 күн бұрын
@@jonnieinbangkok Susan was no shriveled violet herself! She literally threw her weight around ...and her entitlement to intimidate children! She is a bully! Jail justice will teach her regret!
@angyQ6379
@angyQ6379 28 күн бұрын
@@jonnieinbangkokI do not think her size has to do anything with barging down a door. Her own interrogation did not sum up to being in fear for her life and she blindly shot through a door.
@steelhurricane4041
@steelhurricane4041 28 күн бұрын
​@@jonnieinbangkokFor real?
@CadeBell361
@CadeBell361 28 күн бұрын
Her hatred for the kids got in the way of her judgment. This didn't have to happen. My heart goes out to the Children
@mollycote1021
@mollycote1021 27 күн бұрын
Exactly ‼️
@DEBORAH4-ut9sz
@DEBORAH4-ut9sz 27 күн бұрын
What does the Bill of Rights say about elderly? The law guarantees the following rights for senior citizens: - The right of independence and privacy, including their right to make decisions regarding their property and place of residence, among others. - The right of protection from violence, abuse and neglect.
@EvaLeeanncostlow-xw8iu
@EvaLeeanncostlow-xw8iu 27 күн бұрын
I agree don't shoot the the door like that what if she would have shot the kids too I hope justice is served I will say this lady looks very cold like she didn't like this young mother of four
@shellealexander3227
@shellealexander3227 26 күн бұрын
​@@EvaLeeanncostlow-xw8iuyeah she didn't like any of them, including the kids. Calling the police 7 times.
@shellealexander3227
@shellealexander3227 26 күн бұрын
​@@DEBORAH4-ut9szYes We have rights but it doesn't give you the right to do what ever you want and use fear to get out of it
@MarleneDeal-dl3ci
@MarleneDeal-dl3ci 27 күн бұрын
Her hate for her neighbors made the decision to shoot..not that she was afraid for her life 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
@eveleo5066
@eveleo5066 26 күн бұрын
This is Ocala. There's a lot of that going around.. Racism is apart of their lives..
@berylwitter9813
@berylwitter9813 25 күн бұрын
TRUE
@lenny_skywalker
@lenny_skywalker 24 күн бұрын
​@@eveleo5066 facts. I live in Lake County & this is so true
@eveleo5066
@eveleo5066 23 күн бұрын
@@lenny_skywalker yeah I know. I have seen it all my life 😥
@bernadette4484
@bernadette4484 23 күн бұрын
Susan Lorincz's Hate hosted demons, after Susan fired the shot the demons whispered in Susan's ear, you're on your own now murderer.
@MeowsyMcdermottEsq.
@MeowsyMcdermottEsq. 27 күн бұрын
Manslaughter. Already unfair. She was waiting for that moment.
@delorescampbell2899
@delorescampbell2899 27 күн бұрын
The family atty said that the prosecutor felt he could get a better conviction proving manslaughter instead of 2nd degree murder.
@angiejorah
@angiejorah 27 күн бұрын
Self-Defense
@AllAboutPurple
@AllAboutPurple 26 күн бұрын
Yeah it’s Florida, manslaughter is the best those lawyers can try….that woman was very calculated too and even admitted to searching to stand your ground. She was cool as a cucumber when she was detained after the shooting worried about her cats, clearly not afraid at all. She was cool in her interrogation too. She was so chill, zero emotion, you would not think that she was the same person on cop camera videos.Prosecutor is not that great either, no way he could argue for 2nd degree murder. 😅😅😅
@Mina.15
@Mina.15 23 күн бұрын
@@angiejorahof what
@jezjez3723
@jezjez3723 22 күн бұрын
@@Mina.15 I wouldn’t give her a thought. It’s what she wants or he. Ignore them!
@carlitosrmaldonado7853
@carlitosrmaldonado7853 27 күн бұрын
She should have been arrested for all those 911 calls
@aClownBaby-
@aClownBaby- 26 күн бұрын
Yeah, curious why she wasn’t
@Sunn777
@Sunn777 24 күн бұрын
@@aClownBaby- guess we all know why…
@EavyMuturuh
@EavyMuturuh 24 күн бұрын
@@Sunn777well I know someone who constantly calls 911 on people and haven’t been arrested yet so it could be their age too but in this case I think it’s what you’re thinking race.
@wolke1955
@wolke1955 24 күн бұрын
The officer's were well spoken when ever she called 911, they told her what she could not do. They even talked to the kids, don't think it was race from the officers. Maybe it was from that Karen. 😮😮
@christinekelly7769
@christinekelly7769 24 күн бұрын
​@@EavyMuturuhI'm 58 I know better than to call 911 just for the hell of it . Extreme is Extreme.
@JJ2023.
@JJ2023. 27 күн бұрын
Shooting through a door can't be justified as self-defense 🙄. Her previous behavior toward her neighbors raises concerns-who calls the cops on kids just playing outside?
@bonniegropper
@bonniegropper 27 күн бұрын
@@JJ2023. Assholes do who have no business living around kids!
@reemagee4828
@reemagee4828 26 күн бұрын
Susan...
@Sumermak
@Sumermak 26 күн бұрын
A grouchy old lady, that’s who.
@jomac8101
@jomac8101 26 күн бұрын
They were probably brats.
@bonniegropper
@bonniegropper 26 күн бұрын
@jomac8101 Some people just shouldn't live anywhere around children.And it probably not a good idea for them to have firearms either!
@notsorryyouretriggered
@notsorryyouretriggered 28 күн бұрын
Susan is GUILTY
@w.i.t.c.h.1330
@w.i.t.c.h.1330 27 күн бұрын
She should marry Nick from the river stabbings in Wisconsin
@SylvainSybaris
@SylvainSybaris 27 күн бұрын
Is it justified self defense to shoot someone for pounding and kicking your door and making death threats at you? Based on the search results, it is crucial to consider the specific circumstances and laws regarding self-defense. In Michigan, Arizona, and California (as inferred from the Penal Code 198.5 PC), the “castle doctrine” allows for the use of deadly force to protect one’s home against an intruder who poses an imminent threat. Pounding and Kicking the Door The act of pounding and kicking the door can be seen as a clear indication of an intruder’s intent to enter the premises and potentially harm the occupant. This behavior creates a reasonable fear of imminent harm, justifying the use of deadly force in defense. Death Threats The inclusion of death threats escalates the situation, as it demonstrates a clear and present danger to the occupant’s life. This adds to the justification for using deadly force in self-defense. Conclusion Based on the provided information, it appears that shooting someone who is pounding and kicking your door, making death threats, and posing an imminent threat to your life or safety, would be considered justified self-defense in Michigan, Arizona, and California. However, it is essential to note that the specific circumstances and the individual’s perceived threat assessment would ultimately be evaluated by the legal system. Key Considerations The intruder’s actions (pounding and kicking the door) demonstrate a clear intent to enter and potentially harm the occupant. The death threats escalate the situation, indicating a direct and immediate threat to the occupant’s life. The occupant’s reasonable fear of imminent harm justifies the use of deadly force in self-defense, as per the castle doctrine and relevant state laws.
@delorescampbell2899
@delorescampbell2899 27 күн бұрын
ALL DAY LONG!
@notsorryyouretriggered
@notsorryyouretriggered 27 күн бұрын
@@delorescampbell2899 Period sis
@SylvainSybaris
@SylvainSybaris 27 күн бұрын
@@delorescampbell2899 .... Nope, the bad neighbor that was pounding on Susan's door while yelling Death Threats was the guilty party, and thus, was justifiably sent to live at "Forest Lawn" where it belongs.
@eunicebenitez497
@eunicebenitez497 27 күн бұрын
Not only was this a horrendous crime, but absolutely cruel to make the kids and family go through this trial. Her making them having relive and retraumatize everyone.
@berylwitter9813
@berylwitter9813 25 күн бұрын
She is hateful
@EavyMuturuh
@EavyMuturuh 24 күн бұрын
@@berylwitter9813exactly I realize some people plead not guilty to make the families suffer more it’s horrible it’s all about control.
@w.i.t.c.h.1330
@w.i.t.c.h.1330 27 күн бұрын
This poor woman had to deal with this lady terrorizing her kids. This lady is so crazy she might have shot a child one day!
@EavyMuturuh
@EavyMuturuh 24 күн бұрын
Yep that was next.
@judithgannon5642
@judithgannon5642 22 күн бұрын
So listen to the police and "Don't go over there." Film shows more than one cop saying to stay away from her and then the moms and kids started yelling. The field is very big. If staying on the other side of the sign in the ground would appease her, could have tried that. Instead the dead woman ripped it out of the ground and threw it.
@klipschorny
@klipschorny 18 күн бұрын
@@judithgannon5642 jury disagrees
@Chulapatulla
@Chulapatulla 18 күн бұрын
They have the right person in custody
@keishakilo
@keishakilo 16 күн бұрын
@@judithgannon5642but she doesn’t own the field, you can’t tell someone where they can’t and can go unless there is a legal trespassing already established, if she didn’t want to see ppl in the shared field she should have moved. That’s common sense. She was never in danger just wanted to kill and it would’ve been a kid if it wasn’t the mother.
@Riverpuppies
@Riverpuppies 27 күн бұрын
4 children will not have a mother because of a bitter old bigot
@bernadette4484
@bernadette4484 21 күн бұрын
Actually, she was 58 which is relatively not old, she just aged badly
@Riverpuppies
@Riverpuppies 21 күн бұрын
@@bernadette4484 I agree, am 58 myself and not old. I think bitterness makes her old , it’s not the number
@bernadette4484
@bernadette4484 21 күн бұрын
@@Riverpuppies Hate, Jealousy, and all Negativity is the Path to Self-Destruction.
@rebeccanorris8687
@rebeccanorris8687 27 күн бұрын
Lock her up! She's a danger to children.
@wolke1955
@wolke1955 24 күн бұрын
And parents. 😮
@jparker5008
@jparker5008 19 күн бұрын
Yes, she's a danger to the public. Her actions show a complete lack of empathy or rationality. Even if she felt intimidated, she was safe inside her home behind a locked metal door. She could have called the police instead. What if one of the kids had been on the porch, or if someone else had approached the door afterward? She deserves to be locked away for sure.
@sheliaburks2027
@sheliaburks2027 27 күн бұрын
If she thought the noise of kids was bad...
@debfletcherwins6488
@debfletcherwins6488 27 күн бұрын
Exactly
@naturalkinks8683
@naturalkinks8683 25 күн бұрын
Not she gotta smell the farts and 💩 of everyone incarcerated with her. 😂
@ek2137
@ek2137 28 күн бұрын
How can she be charged with manslaughter when she shot through the door, knowing someone was on the other side of the door?
@Luckimee
@Luckimee 27 күн бұрын
They save the real and harsh sentences for everyone else
@speakvanholding247etc
@speakvanholding247etc 27 күн бұрын
This is because the prosecutor knows that she will be found guilty. Probation can be given, but not for murder. Less, time with manslaughter charge.
@delorescampbell2899
@delorescampbell2899 27 күн бұрын
The prosecutor said he thought he would stand a better chance of proving and getting a conviction of manslaughter than2nd degree murder which I think was the original charge.
@jimlewis2395
@jimlewis2395 26 күн бұрын
Shouldnt the charge be called 'Personslaughter", to be gender neutral and especially since the victim was a female?
@Power20009
@Power20009 23 күн бұрын
@@delorescampbell2899 that’s what he said but he is not worth the paper his degree is on. Prosecutors can easily win a second degree he just chose not to seek it because of the powers that be!!! A lesser charge she can have opportunity for parole
@bonniegropper
@bonniegropper 27 күн бұрын
This should be considered a hate crime,if racial slurs are used in the commission of a crime,why isn't this considered a hate crime?
@kam45000
@kam45000 27 күн бұрын
Absolutely!!!!! Hate Crime.
@delorescampbell2899
@delorescampbell2899 27 күн бұрын
I agree but the judge didn't allow it. The judge does seem to be a fair judge and not racist as some are.
@shakx3795
@shakx3795 24 күн бұрын
Gotta have evidence of the hate...audio recordings of hate speech, witnesses describing her racist behavior, her admittance, something in that moment
@shawnni3014
@shawnni3014 24 күн бұрын
@@bonniegropper exactly
@kam45000
@kam45000 23 күн бұрын
​. It wasn't allowed, unfortunately. Thos, imo, was 💯 a hate crime.
@user-on2vf2it6j
@user-on2vf2it6j 28 күн бұрын
First, the defendant is 59 years old! Alarming! This is how your body and face ages when you are a joyless, angry human. I am 62. She looks like she is in her mid 80’s.
@annebosworth7048
@annebosworth7048 28 күн бұрын
Agree... when their bitter and twisted like her it shows on their face..
@catherinefraser8177
@catherinefraser8177 28 күн бұрын
Exactly what i said. When your heart is full of hate the energy of evil shows
@notsorryyouretriggered
@notsorryyouretriggered 28 күн бұрын
59?! She doesn’t look a day under 87
@shannilmerrill426
@shannilmerrill426 28 күн бұрын
Totally agree! My mom is 73, and this woman looks 20 years older than my mom. What a hateful disgusting human this murderer is
@Hunee-
@Hunee- 28 күн бұрын
Miserable, lonely life.
@christinaroche9616
@christinaroche9616 27 күн бұрын
AJ was a beautiful young woman who did not deserve what happened to her. I'm so sorry for her children and her family. Let there be justice for AJ and may she rest in peace RIP.
@k8mcawesome
@k8mcawesome 28 күн бұрын
He looks so young but very composed and sure of himself. They handled everything with professionalism. RIP Ajike
@triepope6429
@triepope6429 23 күн бұрын
She's only 59 years olds BUT SHE LOOKS 75......
@bernadette4484
@bernadette4484 21 күн бұрын
80's
@iammisanthrope7764
@iammisanthrope7764 15 күн бұрын
She looks older because of dealing with those stupid kids.
@user-wt7yf8bq9i
@user-wt7yf8bq9i 14 күн бұрын
She looks old on purpose. I am 63 and she looks like my grandmother.
@user-wt7yf8bq9i
@user-wt7yf8bq9i 14 күн бұрын
@@iammisanthrope7764, Then she should have purchased an island because kids are the same all around this world🤔
@bernadette4484
@bernadette4484 14 күн бұрын
@@iammisanthrope7764 No, her hate aged her many years.
@Rn.Lisa.W
@Rn.Lisa.W 28 күн бұрын
She should be charged with more than manslaughter
@ianfortuna9385
@ianfortuna9385 28 күн бұрын
They wanted to but there was insufficient evidence for that.
@angiejorah
@angiejorah 27 күн бұрын
Susan shouldn't have been charged at all.
@THEBRITTANY2005
@THEBRITTANY2005 26 күн бұрын
@angiejorah Go to hell right along with Susan. My neighbor knocked on my door at 12:28am saying my child was beating on something and his mom couldn’t sleep and my child had been asleep since 9:30p I didn’t shoot him through the door, I told him to get the hell away from my door and everyone lived.
@joannebrennan7144
@joannebrennan7144 22 күн бұрын
​@angiejorah , Here you go again, all over the comments section trying to justify the unjustified killing of a mother! The murderer was behind a closed, locked, door, had been harassing not only these particular children BUT, ALL of the children in the neighborhood! There were no "THREATS", "POUNDING ON THE DOOR", or anything else that will EVER justify killing someone while inside the safety of her home! Hopefully this murderer will spend the rest of her miserable life behind bars for this senseless, unnecessary, murder! Enough said! And, unlike yourself I don't have loads of time to spend on KZbin doing back & forths too prove my point, so don't bother thinking I'm going to respond back because, like I've said, I don't have that kind of time on my hands, especially for someone with your mindset!
@angiejorah
@angiejorah 22 күн бұрын
@@joannebrennan7144 LOL
@lastdays7855
@lastdays7855 27 күн бұрын
If she was so afraid of the “big bad black wolf” WHY was she always harassing the children? (If I’m “afraid of someone I don’t mess with them or their kids,. Because I don’t want any problems or confrontation).
@3rdeyevisualizations207
@3rdeyevisualizations207 26 күн бұрын
Bingo
@TheSblore
@TheSblore 25 күн бұрын
Exactly
@karenhoward8584
@karenhoward8584 24 күн бұрын
@@lastdays7855 that’s why it evident she planned this.
@lettiegrant9447
@lettiegrant9447 22 күн бұрын
She was jealous of that young woman. She was about to be evicted from her home and she just hated to see that young woman going to a job ever able to take care of her family. Well she won't habe to worry now. She won't be evicted from her new home.
@user-wt7yf8bq9i
@user-wt7yf8bq9i 14 күн бұрын
No smoke at all!!!!!! Mothers defend their children.
@CaseyMarie11-11
@CaseyMarie11-11 26 күн бұрын
The nerve of her to try to look sad while the bodycam is playing 😡 She hated that woman and her children 💯 she deserves to spend the rest of her life in prison..
@pinkfreud62
@pinkfreud62 28 күн бұрын
She should have moved to a place where neighbors are further away or a senior community.
@lorimcbrayer8431
@lorimcbrayer8431 27 күн бұрын
@@pinkfreud62 I agree
@delorescampbell2899
@delorescampbell2899 27 күн бұрын
That's what I said!
@debfletcherwins6488
@debfletcherwins6488 27 күн бұрын
Exactly
@AllAboutPurple
@AllAboutPurple 26 күн бұрын
She cant even bond out 150K, 15k minimum probably cant afford a retirement home but had the nerve to be policing while renting an apartment…..thats what happens when you have the wrong priorities.
@buttersstotch6752
@buttersstotch6752 27 күн бұрын
Maybe if she'd called them "Neighbors" instead of the OTHER N word, things would be different. When it's a white woman, everyone expects that the media won't ask whether racism was a factor, or even ask if it's a hate crime. I can't imagine her explaining how her hostility led her to expect zero politeness from children, which justified fearing for her life, considering the animosity she'd produced.
@JoshumarCook-lg9od
@JoshumarCook-lg9od 27 күн бұрын
I need the prosecutor to be more precise and sharp. Prosecute this case as if it were your mother or the mother of your children.
@3rdeyevisualizations207
@3rdeyevisualizations207 26 күн бұрын
Too many cliques, the evidence will show stuff, dude just say this lady is a hot tempered racist killer
@delorescampbell2899
@delorescampbell2899 27 күн бұрын
The officer just said SHE SEEMED TO BE INDIFFERENT!! BECAUSE SHE DONT CARE ABOUT ANYTHING BUT HER CATS!
@mybooks1733
@mybooks1733 28 күн бұрын
My heart goes out to the child who broke down wailing in anguish hearing the death of his mother
@delorescampbell2899
@delorescampbell2899 27 күн бұрын
Ikr! 😢😢
@GregoryEastern
@GregoryEastern 21 күн бұрын
Heartbreaking ain't it? 🧌😶‍🌫️🧟
@iammisanthrope7764
@iammisanthrope7764 15 күн бұрын
HaHaHaHa!!!!!
@melissahogue6113
@melissahogue6113 27 күн бұрын
Why not call police BEFORE the shooting
@delorescampbell2899
@delorescampbell2899 27 күн бұрын
She called the police for a complaint of the kids??, right before, they were on their way. She didn't wait. Seem like she said she couldn't find her phone in the interrogation room. Not sure
@latashatucker8141
@latashatucker8141 25 күн бұрын
To set her lie up
@EavyMuturuh
@EavyMuturuh 24 күн бұрын
@@latashatucker8141exactly because 911 records everything.
@LizasPaperPassion
@LizasPaperPassion 23 күн бұрын
Why go knocking on someone's door especially someone who you think is bothering your kids? Call police instead
@zionssoldierofwar7194
@zionssoldierofwar7194 23 күн бұрын
@@LizasPaperPassion Your full of it. Trying to victim blame.
@chicosmommy498
@chicosmommy498 27 күн бұрын
I lived in a neighborhood full of children, in my home country. They were very loud and played every day literally out of my house, sometimes kind of provoking my dogs, who were all behind a huge iron see through door. Only one time I had to yell asking them to stop, and then bought mesh to cover the see through spots, and kept my dogs in my living room if the kids were too noisy. I later interacted with some of the kids and they were very sweet , interested to know about me and my dogs, we became friends. One time on my way back from work and groceries shopping, i encountered two of those kids that were actually looking for me a bit in distress, the gate in my house had gone open because I had forgotten to lock it the night before, and the wind was pushing it open again and again, both girls (around 7 years old) were trying to keep it closed. I'll never forget them, and kind of miss living there but it was not a very safe place to live. I helped them sometimes with food for their dogs, and took one of them to get fixed, plus some things I left behind for them when I moved. I can't understand how can people be so hateful.
@pdig2963
@pdig2963 24 күн бұрын
Self-defense is when you're face-to-face, not when you're behind a locked door, she deserves life in prison , She took a mother away from her children, and now they have to grow up without their Mom 💔
@lettermansgirl90
@lettermansgirl90 25 күн бұрын
To think she murdered a mom of 4 because of noise and toys outside, and she will probably die in a cell with absolutely no privacy and surrounded by noise 24/7.
@jezjez3723
@jezjez3723 23 күн бұрын
Too many evil and hateful people in the world. Took this lady away from her 4 young children. May she rot in prison.
@missalbania9260
@missalbania9260 27 күн бұрын
This is a miserable old woman. Notice how she never had company or brought up any family members? This is what happens when you spend your life alone and isolated. She resented the families and seeing the children experience the joys of childhood and community. If she didn’t like how the children were acting why not redirect their attention are start a community garden? Give them options besides “loud” games. She brought all of this upon herself, she could have built positive rapports with her neighbors instead she murdered a mother of four innocent children. Communicating effectively and respectfully goes a long way.
@gingermacklin8495
@gingermacklin8495 28 күн бұрын
Guilty and a hate crime, she had been baiting that mama all along. Why isn't it a murder charge?
@steelhurricane4041
@steelhurricane4041 28 күн бұрын
That is a very good question. Perhaps, the DA is not confident of a conviction. But, I would have added 2nd degree murder and the lesser charge of manslaughter.
@annebosworth7048
@annebosworth7048 28 күн бұрын
​@@steelhurricane4041agree
@Mimisof4
@Mimisof4 28 күн бұрын
I was thinking the same thing
@kathygrosvenor4464
@kathygrosvenor4464 28 күн бұрын
I don’t believe it’s a hate crime, unless she hated single parents with children. She harassed white children as well. I’m still hearing the cries of horror from the children whose mother is lying dead at the door. My God, what have we become?
@GrowingwithAnastasia
@GrowingwithAnastasia 28 күн бұрын
@@kathygrosvenor4464 she killed a black woman tho … and was known and admitted to using the N word. You should def do more research on the case 😒
@sacredwaters1470
@sacredwaters1470 27 күн бұрын
Susan never asked if Ajike was going to live is she okay, I am sorry, no remorse, no care for the victim.
@SCORPIO7777f4n
@SCORPIO7777f4n 28 күн бұрын
Miss Owen's was murdered flat out by that murderer
@angiejorah
@angiejorah 26 күн бұрын
AJ shouldn't have threatened Susan's life.
@SCORPIO7777f4n
@SCORPIO7777f4n 26 күн бұрын
@@angiejorah her life wasn't threatened. As we all know rip AJ
@angiejorah
@angiejorah 26 күн бұрын
@@SCORPIO7777f4n We all know AJ wasn't there to have a conversation.
@sexyslim92
@sexyslim92 26 күн бұрын
@@angiejorah why do u think Susan’s life was threatened? Was it because she was some old lady minding her business? If she was so afraid for her life then why are u antagonizing people scary ppl don’t do that
@karenwhite4141
@karenwhite4141 21 күн бұрын
She wasn't "afraid". She was hateful!
@labelledujour5855
@labelledujour5855 24 күн бұрын
Nothing good will come out of “Hatred” This lady let hate take over her heart and mind, right now on this Saturday afternoon she could have taking a nap, spending time with her grandchildren, now someone going to tell you when to sleep, eat, give other people complete control of her life just because of HATE. 🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️
@judithgannon5642
@judithgannon5642 22 күн бұрын
Oh please. People are even hacking on her cat here. Plenty of hate all over.
@thomism1016
@thomism1016 28 күн бұрын
WHAT?😱 MANSLAUGHTER?😤 ARE YOU KIDDING ME?🤷🏽‍♂️ When you shoot through a door fully aware someone is standing on the other side, that’s an intentional homicide-MURDER 🙆🏽‍♂️
@shouacha5276
@shouacha5276 28 күн бұрын
I know she should be charged with first degree murder not manslaughter n the prosecutor should see for the death penalty
@davemojarra2666
@davemojarra2666 27 күн бұрын
She didnt mean to pull the trigger. Involuntary manslaughter.
@tutixdoodee
@tutixdoodee 27 күн бұрын
@@davemojarra2666🤡🤡🤡
@Ad-Lo
@Ad-Lo 27 күн бұрын
@@davemojarra2666 how are you speaking to mens rea? Were you there?
@livia5158
@livia5158 27 күн бұрын
Someone wasn't just standing on the other side of it. She was beating on the door so hard that the neighbor's apartment was shaking
@rhondascott8745
@rhondascott8745 27 күн бұрын
All that fake crying on the 911 call then cool and calm when the cops get there....😐
@danarann2572
@danarann2572 27 күн бұрын
this lady was living in the hood, acting like it was a gated community.... even if it were a gated community her behavior was appalling
@Jurybirdie
@Jurybirdie 28 күн бұрын
What she did was inexcusable & there's absolutely no defense, to justify shooting this poor woman & leaving her children without a mother!
@SirHumphrey498
@SirHumphrey498 27 күн бұрын
typical liberal.
@SylvainSybaris
@SylvainSybaris 27 күн бұрын
Is it justified self defense to shoot someone for pounding and kicking your door and making death threats at you? Based on the search results, it is crucial to consider the specific circumstances and laws regarding self-defense. In Michigan, Arizona, and California (as inferred from the Penal Code 198.5 PC), the “castle doctrine” allows for the use of deadly force to protect one’s home against an intruder who poses an imminent threat. Pounding and Kicking the Door The act of pounding and kicking the door can be seen as a clear indication of an intruder’s intent to enter the premises and potentially harm the occupant. This behavior creates a reasonable fear of imminent harm, justifying the use of deadly force in defense. Death Threats The inclusion of death threats escalates the situation, as it demonstrates a clear and present danger to the occupant’s life. This adds to the justification for using deadly force in self-defense. Conclusion Based on the provided information, it appears that shooting someone who is pounding and kicking your door, making death threats, and posing an imminent threat to your life or safety, would be considered justified self-defense in Michigan, Arizona, and California. However, it is essential to note that the specific circumstances and the individual’s perceived threat assessment would ultimately be evaluated by the legal system. Key Considerations The intruder’s actions (pounding and kicking the door) demonstrate a clear intent to enter and potentially harm the occupant. The death threats escalate the situation, indicating a direct and immediate threat to the occupant’s life. The occupant’s reasonable fear of imminent harm justifies the use of deadly force in self-defense, as per the castle doctrine and relevant state laws.
@SedB101
@SedB101 23 күн бұрын
@@SylvainSybarisobviously didn’t watch the whole case, the neighbors said they never heard AJ say she would kill the Killer.
@SylvainSybaris
@SylvainSybaris 23 күн бұрын
@@SedB101 ... You Dems & Libs are gullible & naive to believe such nonsense... Don't you know that Family & Friends stick together like dog Sh*t??? Obviously those neighbors lied (purged) themselves in court to make Susan look guilty, and what is wonderful about those kind of lies is that those are "hear-say" lies (opinion lied) which are impossible to disprove.... Susan said the bad person said it was going to kill her as it was POUNDING & POUNDING & POUNDING on Susan's door while ranting & raving death threats... The problem is that bad & stupid people don't believe Susan, and the bad & stupid people would rather believe that bad person & the bad persons family & friends..... What's comical is that bad & stupid people, like you, would also lie in court to save your family & friends too.
@jeanettewatkins9338
@jeanettewatkins9338 24 күн бұрын
Sometimes it's best to just move if the kids in the neighborhood is bothering you. The kids have a right to be able to go outside.
@carolclemons4762
@carolclemons4762 26 күн бұрын
OMG..did I hear that baby saying "wake up wake up" to his mom? 😭
@claireobrien9348
@claireobrien9348 27 күн бұрын
This woman is a danger to society.
@joshuaDstarks
@joshuaDstarks 28 күн бұрын
Lady, if you thought the “feedback” in society was bad…have you heard of prison?
@evelynlockhart7997
@evelynlockhart7997 28 күн бұрын
Definitely right about that. Let's see how much privilege she gets on there.
@angiejorah
@angiejorah 26 күн бұрын
Self-Defense.
@angiejorah
@angiejorah 26 күн бұрын
@@evelynlockhart7997 Privileged white woman lives in majority black low income community? Okay.
@delorescampbell2899
@delorescampbell2899 27 күн бұрын
So sad to hear probably her mom saying, BABY WAKE UP! WAKE UP!! SO SAD!! 😢😢😢
@deedeedonald8437
@deedeedonald8437 27 күн бұрын
They got her looking like a little innocent old lady but the jury will see through that.they will get it right
@evelynlockhart7997
@evelynlockhart7997 28 күн бұрын
She supposedly was a coward afraid of the mom behind a 🔒. But wasn't too afraid to throw skates at children, not even teenagers. This was not a stand your ground case. This was murder whether premeditated or not.
@annebosworth7048
@annebosworth7048 28 күн бұрын
Exactly
@kimbailey9799
@kimbailey9799 23 күн бұрын
The hatred aged her so much. She is a few years older than me but looks like she’s 85 years old. Well she chose her fate, to live out her life in a 6x6 cell with Big Bertha. I wonder how she’s gonna explain the situation to her.
@courtneylove94
@courtneylove94 27 күн бұрын
She wasn’t scared at all who shoots through a closed door
@HighPower762
@HighPower762 27 күн бұрын
Maybe someone who is being home invaded by people, but that didn't happen in this case. But it does happen.
@guestguest5128
@guestguest5128 28 күн бұрын
Susan looks very calm, to be someone, that supposedly fears for their life. She even had a history, of looking up the legality of fearing for one’s life. Sick individual…
@MyVisibleLife
@MyVisibleLife 27 күн бұрын
A heartbreaking case. I pray for the 4 children without their mother.
@delorescampbell2899
@delorescampbell2899 27 күн бұрын
Amen! 😢😢😢me too
@ronaldmontgomery2079
@ronaldmontgomery2079 28 күн бұрын
When she threw those roller blades at the kids. That's what started it all.
@delorescampbell2899
@delorescampbell2899 27 күн бұрын
Exactly 💯
@angiejorah
@angiejorah 26 күн бұрын
Why were the roller blades there to begin with? Keep your kids on your own property.
@XdahmX
@XdahmX 25 күн бұрын
@@angiejorahthat doesn’t justify murder.. 🙄
@judithgannon5642
@judithgannon5642 22 күн бұрын
Went on for a year 😊
@resiecup3191
@resiecup3191 18 күн бұрын
@@angiejorahSit the fck down it wasn’t Susan’s property either. You don’t like noise move the fck out the neighborhood! Periodt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@GThompson-ix9bs
@GThompson-ix9bs 27 күн бұрын
Ajike Owens ,was such a beautiful young mother/woman,with SOOOOO much life to live😭 I'm so sorry for her children and families pain.
@CandyCoated96
@CandyCoated96 28 күн бұрын
She shot someone through the door because she was scared? She could of called the police. Why call the police on peoples children if you are scared of the parents coming to talk to you? You can't claim defense when the door was a barrier of protection between you. Pray for the children. This is sad.
@5thdimension954
@5thdimension954 28 күн бұрын
Look at that snarly face she has along with having ZERO remorse for her actions. She needs life in prison.
@karencollins2661
@karencollins2661 27 күн бұрын
That poor mom was murdered. No excuse what so ever.
@Wilmrbadguy
@Wilmrbadguy 27 күн бұрын
I'm just sitting back watching how many people in THIS SOCIETY justify for killing an unarmed mother defending her children being abused by an old YT WOMAN~ Wilmrbadguy
@3rdeyevisualizations207
@3rdeyevisualizations207 26 күн бұрын
Sad but true
@judithgannon5642
@judithgannon5642 22 күн бұрын
Criticizing the decisions amd behavior of the mother, including those of that night, isn't justifying her killing.
@ashiah1212
@ashiah1212 28 күн бұрын
And her son was standing next to her when she died. This whole thing is terrible.
@Pudef9
@Pudef9 27 күн бұрын
@ashiah1212 And she could have killed the child!
@maaikemartens6086
@maaikemartens6086 27 күн бұрын
@@Pudef9OMG, also my first thought
@delorescampbell2899
@delorescampbell2899 27 күн бұрын
My stepdaughter mom was shot in 5the head when she was 8, right in front of her and it was this same type of situation. Thank God my daughter is healed and it's because of God. I pray these babies heal. ❤
@judithgannon5642
@judithgannon5642 22 күн бұрын
She brought him there
@carlosdeno
@carlosdeno 27 күн бұрын
Anyone remember a South African Paralympic Athlete who shot through a closed door, knowing the fact that someone was behind it? It’s not self defense, it’s murder.
@sasskvetch8617
@sasskvetch8617 27 күн бұрын
Ugh Oscar Pistorius and he's out as a free man now! Luckily very recognisable around the world and true justice will prevail 🤞🏼
@carlosdeno
@carlosdeno 27 күн бұрын
@@sasskvetch8617 Took a life and free as a bird! Unbelievable.
@GC2024_
@GC2024_ 27 күн бұрын
What a cowardest ***** im embarrassed 😢 standing on the other side of a door and shooting at another person is crap !!! Prayers for this woman's family, 😢😢😢her poor children, this is unbelievable 🙏 😢
@danielholt6741
@danielholt6741 27 күн бұрын
I smell prison for Sue. Stupid is, Stupid does!
@3rdeyevisualizations207
@3rdeyevisualizations207 26 күн бұрын
There's no pill for stupid, is what I was told as a young man
@reginaeiland9358
@reginaeiland9358 27 күн бұрын
Those poor kids living with the trauma of feeling like this was their fault...😢
@TiffanyMollohan
@TiffanyMollohan 27 күн бұрын
Very sad case. At least this Karen of a woman will spend rest of her life in prison. And can't hurt anyone else 😢
@delorescampbell2899
@delorescampbell2899 27 күн бұрын
I know! I was concerned about that too.
@judithgannon5642
@judithgannon5642 22 күн бұрын
Guided by their mother and other adults.
@reginaeiland9358
@reginaeiland9358 22 күн бұрын
@@judithgannon5642 what are you talking about??
@judithgannon5642
@judithgannon5642 22 күн бұрын
@@reginaeiland9358 what do you think?
@jackiebaker5003
@jackiebaker5003 21 күн бұрын
All those years of no criminal record, and then one day, you're an unaliver!!!
@AlexisRoark
@AlexisRoark 28 күн бұрын
Wow. That attorney is objecting to everything! Here we go again. Interesting how she has no questions despite all the objections and the potential to do whatever the legal term is to get the jury to strengthen / backup her objection.
@robertl.wilson1199
@robertl.wilson1199 28 күн бұрын
No soul in those eyes 😔
@ambriaharris4821
@ambriaharris4821 23 күн бұрын
Oh yeah. Karen was jealous of Owens. She was gorgeous! Rest In Heaven Queen 👸🏿.
@stephaniejacobs1267
@stephaniejacobs1267 27 күн бұрын
She still looks "indifferent" today! 🤔😔
@CarolElizabeth001
@CarolElizabeth001 27 күн бұрын
Well no children to see in prison. Enjoy the view Susan.
@cynthiaosborne6039
@cynthiaosborne6039 27 күн бұрын
Keep her locked up. She had no reason to kill that woman .
@Shaheeda-fn2pr
@Shaheeda-fn2pr 23 күн бұрын
In the police audio call Susan pretends to be frightened and distressed but she can't keep in character. That phone call speaks volumes about what a cold blooded, calculating person she is. This murder was premeditated
@user-tk8qu6yk4n
@user-tk8qu6yk4n 28 күн бұрын
she in her house behind a locked door with a phone and a gun and was scared of what calling the police. she’s guilty of murder and a hate crime . and putting her hands on someone else child
@lanielouwraps
@lanielouwraps 28 күн бұрын
And the police were on their way!!!
@roycesato4129
@roycesato4129 27 күн бұрын
She won’t last long in jail
@tamjeanell
@tamjeanell 21 күн бұрын
The very 'person' she was scared of....will be all around her in jail
@robyn874
@robyn874 28 күн бұрын
This woman was an angry hateful woman who didn't compromise with her neighbours now the children are without their mother
@aztec0112
@aztec0112 27 күн бұрын
And an angry mother of four jacked up on drama, stormed her house looking for a fight late at night. She found it. Now she's dead, in front of her child. Well her kids can console themselves that the crazy racist with a gun is behind bars. Such a senseless waste
@63076topher
@63076topher 27 күн бұрын
​@aztec0112 She was INSIDE her LOCKED HOME no way she could have thought the woman protecting her children that Karen was VERBALLY ABUSING and HARASSING for months because they were playing on a empty field was getting inside.
@judithgannon5642
@judithgannon5642 22 күн бұрын
The field is enormous. The landlord planted a property line sign for Susan. So no kids, or skates etc would be there. Nobody saying nasty things through her window. And Susan would have been wrong calling if they played on the far side of the sign. The dead mom pulled up the sign and threw it. There's film where she demonstrated to a cop how she threw it over her shoulder. So when it hit Susan she wasn't aiming it at her. She said.
@63076topher
@63076topher 22 күн бұрын
@@judithgannon5642 Past event they were not at Susan's house.
@judithgannon5642
@judithgannon5642 22 күн бұрын
@@63076topher where was the sign mom pulled out, and threw re your perception?
@user-di5kl2nt4b
@user-di5kl2nt4b 27 күн бұрын
Susan appears to be a selfish , hateful and unhappy woman !! Very sad ! 😢 If only people would be nice and kind!!
@katiecampbell9191
@katiecampbell9191 27 күн бұрын
Why did she bother this ladies kids everyday if she was scared ? She should be charged with murder.
@aljonaoehrlein4628
@aljonaoehrlein4628 27 күн бұрын
She should get the death penalty sentence 😡
@davidtrent1245
@davidtrent1245 22 күн бұрын
She thought she was going to get away with murder.
@cynthiahagerman5718
@cynthiahagerman5718 26 күн бұрын
The man talking ab thought processes. He has absolutely no idea what was in her mind. No one can. She was wrong. She needs to know she was wrong and be punished. Period.
@kalidirect6635
@kalidirect6635 26 күн бұрын
She should be charged with FIRST DEGREE MURDER
@openseekeroftruth7497
@openseekeroftruth7497 28 күн бұрын
This case is so devastating. Blessings to the victim, Ajike Owens, and her family, especially her kids 😥
@Syrnian
@Syrnian 23 күн бұрын
How is it manslaughter when she willingly and knowingly pointed a firearm at a door where she knew a person stood and pulled the trigger
@nb-user25
@nb-user25 27 күн бұрын
She was in fear…of being held accountable for her poor behavior.
@bernadette4484
@bernadette4484 20 күн бұрын
Murderess behavior!
@rosesmith6925
@rosesmith6925 28 күн бұрын
It's crazy here in Florida! Certain "types" of people are being told they can do this. The law tells them it's ok 🤬🤬
@Letty_critters420o65
@Letty_critters420o65 28 күн бұрын
I know my hopes aren't high in this trial here in California she would have been in jail the first day and held there but because she's in Florida and she's a white woman that shot a black woman they might as well gave her a trophy its sad and horrible
@steelhurricane4041
@steelhurricane4041 28 күн бұрын
This is absurd. She's guilty. Shooting through a locked door. Lock her up.
@HighPower762
@HighPower762 27 күн бұрын
​@@Letty_critters420o65I'm not sure what your point is. She has 150,000 bail and has been in jail since the day she was arrested.🤔
@marriejames01
@marriejames01 26 күн бұрын
@@HighPower762She’s only been in jail because she’s too poor to pay the 10% bail. I’ve never seen bail that low for murd3r.
@valritz3100
@valritz3100 28 күн бұрын
This woman is old bitter and doesn't like certain people. If she's got all these ailments, why would she argue with children and throw skates and other objects. She is not sorry she wanted to kill her. When she went to her house she should have had something. She worried about cats and couldn't even make a bond. She shouldn't have had a bond. I thought she was 80. Lock her up. Hate crime bill.
@judithgannon5642
@judithgannon5642 22 күн бұрын
Oh leave the cats alone 😔
@garfieldharrison510
@garfieldharrison510 24 күн бұрын
She was the neighborhood bully.
@patrickpoppy9891
@patrickpoppy9891 28 күн бұрын
Shooting through a locked door because she was scared for her life? Even in Florida that defense won't work lol
@Letty_critters420o65
@Letty_critters420o65 28 күн бұрын
I thought the same about the popcorn murder and it is Florida, and it was a white woman shot a black woman, so my hopes aren't too high, but I'm hoping this poor mama gets the justice she and her family deserves.
@annebosworth7048
@annebosworth7048 28 күн бұрын
​@Letty_critters420o65 yes fingers crossed..I'm praying she spends the rest of her miserable life in prison
@gwiz2970
@gwiz2970 25 күн бұрын
That's Big facts.​@@Letty_critters420o65
@allthejuice8236
@allthejuice8236 27 күн бұрын
I feel bad for the kids
@bernadette4484
@bernadette4484 21 күн бұрын
That is too much pain for a child.
@claireobrien9348
@claireobrien9348 27 күн бұрын
I seriously can’t not fathom a person fulled with so much hatred to pick up a gun and take a mother from their children.. guilty guilty .
@user-mn3bj2nz2c
@user-mn3bj2nz2c 25 күн бұрын
Just move or call police . She would have been made to back down and Ms Owens ushered away . Horrible outcome for both parties.😢
@amyfay5791
@amyfay5791 28 күн бұрын
If you move by a train track, a busy highway, a concert area, strip, school, power line, or maybe an open grassy area in a family neighborhood where dogs and children would gravitate you have to expect some disturbance. Her saying they could hear her calls and such. Just silly. She didn’t warn AJ that she had a gun and would shoot if AJ didn’t leave? She had already called 911 and her lawyer said she at first thought it was the police come banging. What if she had shot an officer approaching AJ or what if AJ had her kids with her? What if a passerby or curious neighbour, landlord etc was in vicinity. This is why I don’t agree with everyone should have a gun. That’s my opinion and I stick by it.
@user-db9ov3bt8n
@user-db9ov3bt8n 21 күн бұрын
The suspect looked calm and collected. She wasn’t in distress!
@deedeedonald8437
@deedeedonald8437 27 күн бұрын
She said she went to the gun range she has two guns
@HighPower762
@HighPower762 27 күн бұрын
Most people that have guns for self-defense do that, I'm not sure how that's relevant? Nevertheless in this case, her use of deadly force was what's absolutely not justified.
@deedeedonald8437
@deedeedonald8437 27 күн бұрын
@@HighPower762 she also said she didn't know how to use it
@mariannagidaro816
@mariannagidaro816 21 күн бұрын
She deserves life in jail
@sharonbland9061
@sharonbland9061 28 күн бұрын
I know you are innocent until proven guilty. I watched this case on KZbin as it unfolded. Her defence of self defence is ludicrous. She shot this lady through her door, you cannot justify this action, as self defence. She will be found guilty.
@davemojarra2666
@davemojarra2666 27 күн бұрын
Ikr, hopefully she gets 2 or 3 years in prison.👍🏾
@markharrisllb
@markharrisllb 24 күн бұрын
Am I the only boomer who thinks the sound of children playing is one of the best sounds in the world? She’s a horrible cowardly old woman (but younger than me) who is very bitter about her own sad life. I was thinking how professionally objective officer Ashton Welfenberg was giving her evidence. Then the attorney asked her if she’d tried to treat her wounds, and her voice broke a tiny bit and she swallowed as she said "Yes sir, I did." People criticise the police, often rightfully so, but many just want to do the right thing and face things that must have a massive impact.
@briarrose29
@briarrose29 28 күн бұрын
I hope the old lady rots in jail and has to have a POC as a cell mate.
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