70% efficiency is really promising. I didn't know CAES can get anywhere near that. If these facilities can be built cheaply, that's a huge step towards solving the storage problem. Thanks for the video!
@Krasbin2 жыл бұрын
I was about to say the same thing. 70% sounds really promising. I hope that this is a good alternative to hydrogen for long term storage. Batteries (Li ion batteries at least) do not operate well on longer timescales because of their discharge rate.
@w0ttheh3ll2 жыл бұрын
@@Krasbin Self discharge is not the problem. Good Lithium Ion batteries lose less than 5% per year. The problem is that it's economically insane to buy a big rechargeable battery and only charge it every couple of weeks or months. With current battery prices, you need to use a battery installation every day if you want to recover your investment.
@Krasbin2 жыл бұрын
@@w0ttheh3ll I didn't know that. I thought it was about 1% per day, which when combined with about 90% efficiency would result in 70% (as presented in the video) after about 20 days/3 weeks. But that knowledge is from about 10 years ago, and I would like to update that. Do you have a source (not a link, KZbin doesn't like that, but some name/title of an interesting video/document?
@wolfgangpreier91602 жыл бұрын
@@w0ttheh3ll Yes, you have to use it every day. And when you do that you can - with todays products - solve the battery problem easily. Ok, not easily you would have to scale the battery production facilities about 1000 times. And it would cost trillions. Literally. But it would only cost between 5 and 12 cents/kWh for the usage of those batteries. When they become cheaper the cost will of course go down. But its actually possible and financially feasible today. I used Tesla Megapacks in my "back of the napkin" calculation. Only one problem, we would have to make Elon the richest person on the world... Oh thats already been done. Then whats the problem?
@wolfgangpreier91602 жыл бұрын
30% losses would mean 100 Terawatthours a year for our small country. LOSSES! That is NOT acceptable. The US uses currently 28.5 PWh - Thats Petawatthours primal energy. Lets say the US could get this down to 50% then its 14 PWH and 30% losses would be 2.9 PWH. That would mean the US have as much LOSSES as the whole of Europe USES IN TOTAL! THAT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE SIR!
@tommyirvine52612 жыл бұрын
Still knocking out great content Dave. Really professionally done and giving hope to your thousands of subscribers. Well done sir!
@JustHaveaThink2 жыл бұрын
Cheers Tommy
@Sekir802 жыл бұрын
@@JustHaveaThink Hi Dave! Regarding your request of evidence for KZbin I checked my status on the bell and found it is off. I'm 99% certain it was on. I rang it again just now, will watch it for you. Edit: typo.
@stopscammingman2 жыл бұрын
The amazing inventor Jonathan Goodenough is also a WW2 vet, who served as a meteorologist and calculated, among many other things, the weather on D Day. It seems he was more than pretty good at it too!
@drury2d82 жыл бұрын
sounds good enough to me.
@Eyes0penNoFear2 жыл бұрын
@@drury2d8 badum tuss!
@nickkacures23042 жыл бұрын
Amazing man and thanks for that fact on WW 2
@FerociousPancake8882 жыл бұрын
I’m happy to know we have some absolutely amazing people in this world. I hope we can be more like them.
@glen.simpson Жыл бұрын
he's a nazi who was given the name
@leifhietala80742 жыл бұрын
Go for the trifecta: bury the air storage tanks underground, put the solar panels to charge them seven meters in the air on single axis trackers, and grow agrivoltaic-friendly crops underneath. That's using the same patch of ground three ways, that's a win no matter how you slice it.
@redstarsrbija2 жыл бұрын
Cant imagine thats feasible; the wind loading 7m in the air would be significantly higher, and its effect would be amplified with a larger moment arm.
@chrisheath26372 жыл бұрын
You could always breed giraffes...
@icaropereira32182 жыл бұрын
And make it an eolic solar combo.
@elizabethbrown31352 жыл бұрын
@@redstarsrbija Steel is fairly cheap. Solar panels are very light. So far, they have stayed on my roof with high wind gusts. Low light crops can be grown under them Sale of crops will pay for the steel within 2 years.
@glasslinger2 жыл бұрын
@@elizabethbrown3135 Stick with baking cookies!
@BobBob-kr5wr2 жыл бұрын
Regarding the plant in China, I would like to have multiple outside sources to verify this plants claims. China has a severe issue with companies falsifying data in order to get funding or simply for propaganda purposes.
@Go2Results2 жыл бұрын
My head is programmed to check every Sunday evening 😁
@Dr.Gehrig2 жыл бұрын
Glad to have another video on compressed air energy storage systems. For a second there I was worried this was going to be yet another "revolutionary alternate battery chemistry about to change everything" video. Pleasantly surprised on an update on the important compressed air energy technology family.
@2MeterLP2 жыл бұрын
Indeed, every week theres a new "revolutionary new battery" and nothing ever seems to come of it.
@Eyes0penNoFear2 жыл бұрын
@@2MeterLP yeah, like cold fusion is always "just a few years" away.
@stevewilliams24982 жыл бұрын
Help me understand why the Canadian system, for example, needs the compressed air part of the system. Surely pumping water up and running water turbines (as Dinorwic) on release cuts out the heat issue altogether and reduces the complexity of the system.
@Dr.Gehrig2 жыл бұрын
@@stevewilliams2498 pumped hydro is simpler and more efficient, but has more time, space, water, initial investment, and geographic requirements than compressed air does. Both are important systems and should be used when optimal for a specific system.
@rxaxlxpxh Жыл бұрын
Don't have the link. Compressed air and kevlar "balloons". Backyard size system.
@Phoboskomboa2 жыл бұрын
I'm a material scientist. My recent work has been mostly in spintronic materials for more efficient computation and data storage, but what I love about the state of energy technology right now is how many companies and government programs are trying every conceivable solution. I doubt we'll find a magic bullet technology that changes everything overnight, but rather I expect many of these solutions will have small, but significant advantages over current technologies, and many of them will find niche applications. We'll see slow, but steady improvements in energy storage over he next couple of decades. I just hope the rate of improvement is sufficient to stem the most apocalyptic fears of climate change.
@calumshaw12 жыл бұрын
It would be nice to see a comparison of all the grid-scale energy storage solutions, their capacity, efficiency, responsiveness, cost/MWh, max input/output vs investment. P.s. I got adverts too, but notifications work fine
@lindam.15022 жыл бұрын
I second that
@pvanleeuwen19232 жыл бұрын
Yes, ads here too
@acmefixer12 жыл бұрын
I got a few a ads while watching.
@venkateshks66642 жыл бұрын
I just stumbled on this video though I have the notification switched on I did not get any notification for this. Wonder ho many I have missed. I really like watchiing your videos as they give a neutral and factual representation of the technology being in the subject.
@JustHaveaThink2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Venkatesh. I publish a video every Sunday, so it sounds like you may have missed quite a few!
@03samjon12 жыл бұрын
Longevity is key for these projects to be viable
@nickcook27142 жыл бұрын
Are you talking compressed air storage or John Goodenough 🙂
@tepidtuna74502 жыл бұрын
@@nickcook2714 Yes ! 😁
@nickwinn78122 жыл бұрын
I would be surprised if Any of these installations have an operational life of less than 50 years, and I envisage many will be in use for double that, as long as the need is still there.
@herbertboelk75452 жыл бұрын
Thank you Mr Goodenough and may you finish all your projects with success.
@Kevin_Street2 жыл бұрын
No worries about clicking away, I love these videos. You are really good at explaining complicated concepts to people. It's nice to see a Canadian company at the forefront of a new technology like A-CAES. Hydrostor's "thermal management system" must be a trade secret of some kind, but if it's comparable to the Chinese system the efficiency must be similar as well. The capability of storing power for days certainly fills a hole in the current market. I wish 'em well. Don't know if this is the case, but it looks like Augwind's technology has the advantage of being upgradable. More capacity could be achieved by burying additional tanks. If they run slowly then they probably store energy for long periods as well. Looks like neither of these companies are going to directly compete against lithium batteries. And of course China is doing everything all at once, as is fitting for a country of such tremendous size. Hopefully they'll feed all this new storage capacity from renewable sources. It really does sound like a promising new technology.
@georgewaters64242 жыл бұрын
Notifs broke for me around 2 months ago, only watched 2 of the last 8 episodes when i specifically hunted down your channel to see that weeks video. This was the first notif I've had in ages.
@1703-s5l2 жыл бұрын
ꜱᴇɴᴅ ᴀ ᴍᴇꜱꜱᴀɢᴇ👆👆.
@georgewaters64242 жыл бұрын
Got a reply from a whatsapp user that definitely does NOT seem legit though he uses your logo (see kzbin.info/door/AX8u6KHHI4_05lZiP7vONg ) replying to this message. Suggest you report it. Seems an odd response and not from your main account.
@yorkyone21432 жыл бұрын
Your videos are no longer free of ads. there were at least two breaks for them during the show
@calumshaw12 жыл бұрын
Yes, I had two ad “breaks” too
@HannibalLecterify2 жыл бұрын
Same here
@BernardVerhaeghe2 жыл бұрын
Same here but I didn't mind.
@JustHaveaThink2 жыл бұрын
Yes, something has gone wrong this week. I am trying to rectify it with YT.
@fdellaricca2 жыл бұрын
Something similar is being done in Italy by a company called Energy Dome. Instead of using air, they use compressed CO2. The drawback is that you need a big storage space (the dome) to store the uncompressed CO2. The advantage is that CO2 compressed is liquid so it can be compressed in an even smaller volume. They also have heat recovery
@jonbeecroft11022 жыл бұрын
Hi David. Great content again, as I get every week but I normally follow the link from the patron email and watch your video before the KZbin notification can arrive. I did receive a KZbin notification this week but I probably have missed seeing then recently but maybe this is just because I have watched your video before they are sent out? Please keep up the good work! My grandchildren need people like you!
@ghgghgyuhkljjijijui2 жыл бұрын
Man I LOVE this channel!
@Kindertautenleider2 жыл бұрын
i never hit the bell for any of the channels i subscribe to, and yet I always see your videos in my subscriptions.
@EggBastion2 жыл бұрын
same
@obiwanbenobi49432 жыл бұрын
Same here. I don't like notifications of many kinds. I'll look if i have time. :)
@timrogers13692 жыл бұрын
Great content, thanks Dave. I work on the platform tech side of the industry connecting large portfolios of battery and renewable assets for monitoring and optimisation. You're right, Lithium Ion is an an essential but limited grid scale technology. Used mostly for frequency stabilisation, today's grid scale batteries have only a few hours capacity and operating constraints which limit their use. Long duration storage, such as the projects you mention, is a vital missing piece of the puzzle. At the moment in the UK and Europe, grid connection and capacity constraints are a major blocker to storage projects. Part of the solution is likely to be collocation of new long duration storage with existing solar installations. Transmission System Operators (TSOs) are working hard to find solutions to but our infrastructure was not designed for distributed generation and storage so this will take time. Again, great content, thanks.
@JustHaveaThink2 жыл бұрын
Cheers Tim.
@martincotterill8232 жыл бұрын
Another great video, Dave! Brilliant solution to the mass storage problem
@JustHaveaThink2 жыл бұрын
Cheers Martin
@vikararnorsson2 жыл бұрын
I have not got a notification from you for a long time - then suddenly this video pups up....thank you for your great work!!!
@1703-s5l2 жыл бұрын
ꜱᴇɴᴅ ᴀ ᴍᴇꜱꜱᴀɢᴇ👆👆.
@keithmcgarrigle89212 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your positive attitude in times of some gloom.Society needs to stick together to produce the answers to solve the problems?
@derkeniry20082 жыл бұрын
Dear Dave, aside from hardly receiving notifications I now have to experience ads being inserted, although your channel is supposed to ad free and has been so in the past! Thank you, anyway, for your invaluable work for this channel!
@1703-s5l2 жыл бұрын
ꜱᴇɴᴅ ᴀ ᴍᴇꜱꜱᴀɢᴇ👆👆.
@willm58142 жыл бұрын
This is amazing - 70% efficiency - If we don’t come up with any more breakthroughs (which is extremely unlikely) we already have the storage solutions we need for a green future - but let keep going!
@antontaylor45302 жыл бұрын
CATL Prussian White Sodium Ion batteries are 95-98% efficient. 10,000 cycle life, so should last decades even if you fully cycle them multiple times a day. Made with only abundant materials such as sodium from sea salt. They're already on the market, it's just a matter of time while they ramp up production.
@willm58142 жыл бұрын
@@antontaylor4530 That sounds too good to be true Anton, but I hope you're right!
@antontaylor45302 жыл бұрын
@@willm5814 Do a search for "CATL Sodium Ion". It's good to be skeptical, will. A lot of stuff you hear about on the Internet is vaporware. Edit - they're not perfect, Will. They take up more room than lithium ion batteries for example, so won't be a great replacement in vehicles or phones/laptops, for example. However, for grid storage or a powerwall... 👍
@willm58142 жыл бұрын
@@antontaylor4530 I will (again) - good point, and grid storage is the key to making wind and solar work!
@antontaylor45302 жыл бұрын
@@willm5814 You know, Will, Britain already has about 25GW of wind turbines. The UK uses about 808GWh of electricity a day, which averages to about 33GW (it's less at night, more during the day, obviously). Yet wind power is only providing 23.2% of our power, when it could clearly be providing far, far more than that - we need grid storage ASAP. We could probably already go 90% carbon free (wind, solar, hydro and nuclear) with what already exists if we just had grid storage. And another 12GW of offshore wind would cost less than Hinckley Point C (3.2GW) which would probably be enough to make us 100% wind powered, a bit like our government of late.
@davidfoulk58512 жыл бұрын
This is the first of your vids to come onto my screen for 3-4 weeks. Sorry I haven't thought to look you up. Keep doing your great work
@fliprim Жыл бұрын
This news channel is possibly the single best use of my time of any. It is superb in its asking the really significant questions. It is superb in giving sufficiently detailed science to be easily absorbed and providing the necessary terminology to allow deeper engagement afterwards. A very nice balancing act. These are beautifully crafted pieces. I would urge every science teacher to mandate viewing.
@denvera1g12 жыл бұрын
One of the oldest forms of portable energy storage was using compressed air from a trompe, which is basically a gravity powered air compressor, water and air fall down a pipe, are seperated in a chamber far below, and the falling water means that the air in the chamber below is under imense pressure, that air can be captured at that high pressure, or piped to distant air powered engines.
@jpdemer52 жыл бұрын
Doesn't sound all that portable, actually.
@denvera1g12 жыл бұрын
@@jpdemer5 you put that high pressure air into a container, i just described the charging station
@ednalansdowne2322 жыл бұрын
The trompe requires an exit for the water and so must be located in a hilly or mountainous area where the water source is at a relatively high elevation and is able to discharge from a low elevation. Otherwise energy will have to be expended to pump the water from the level of the separation chamber. One has to look at the relative compressing efficiencies and cost and complexity of the alternatives. The potential energy (of elevation) of the water can be used to drive a water turbine which could drive a compressor, or could be used in a trompe as you say.
@denvera1g12 жыл бұрын
@@ednalansdowne232 This is why i say oldest forms, because it pre-dates the ability to manufacture turbines or piston compressors. it is dead simple, which is why the design is so old.
@mikefox48302 жыл бұрын
I am getting notifications, but from today getting advertising in the video. 2 in this clip. Thanks Dave for your efforts. Look forward to your video every week. Cheers
@JustHaveaThink2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for letting me know Mike. Ads shouldn't be happening because I have monetisation switched off. I will take this up with YT
@jensfridthjof2 жыл бұрын
Do both. We need both solutions. They will complent each other.
@CitiesForTheFuture20302 жыл бұрын
Thank you for another great video. I got my notification as per usual.
@JustHaveaThink2 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thank you!
@marcowen15062 жыл бұрын
To go from 30% to over 70% in forty years is not bad going. I wonder how scalable these plants are? The Li-ion storage systems are modular and can be easy to scale up : simply plug in more battery banks (up to the capacity of your grid connection) P.S. very good explanation of basic thermodynamics. It's always nice to hear and able communicator explain things well.
@tomthumb3085 Жыл бұрын
Probably the most significant advance in power generation since the development of Hydro-electric technology. Very, very exciting development. This is certainly the future of clean, efficient and reliable energy generation. Great video, thanks, always something new to watch on your Chanel.
@brendanwallace46612 жыл бұрын
Well done Dave. Another excellent presentation!
@JustHaveaThink2 жыл бұрын
Many thanks!
@messiermitchell49012 жыл бұрын
It's not too dissimilar to the Highview Power storage facility planned for Manchester
@caltonfollows21682 жыл бұрын
Beautifully presented, perfectly spoken. This can be used as a master class in videography.
@1703-s5l2 жыл бұрын
ꜱᴇɴᴅ ᴀ ᴍᴇꜱꜱᴀɢᴇ👆👆..
@MrGonzonator2 жыл бұрын
Would be interesting to compare the costs to that of cryogenic air storage such as employed by Highview Power. Lower pressure systems tend to be cheaper to build.
@cupiduspacis42092 жыл бұрын
I'm no engineer, but liquid air battery seemed far simpler and presumably far cheaper, not to mention mature technology.
@CapinCooke2 жыл бұрын
Looks like KZbin is slipping commercials into Dave’s most excellent work. This video had a beginning commercial for solar and a middle commercial for solar. Last week’s video (that I just watched a couple of hours ago) had an ending commercial. Just FYI for Dave so his wonderful Patreon supporters don’t get upset. Keep up your most excellent work, Dave. Your channel is a KZbin treasure!
@julieheath63352 жыл бұрын
I also had 2 solar ads inserted.
@HilarityUnit2 жыл бұрын
I'm also seeing ads ☹️
@nicomal2 жыл бұрын
Get KZbin Premium, I got no ads. It's really worth all the time you save.
@DinwathLothRhien9792 жыл бұрын
Same here, I've got two middle ads while watching it on my TV and also two middle ads while watching it on my phone. Something is really going on with KZbin these days, I've never experienced it in the past videos
@joshuamiller21142 жыл бұрын
I got ads too
@op4000exe2 жыл бұрын
Just for clarity, the MWs and GWs of the chinese poject prospects at the end of the video refer to MWh and GWhs yes? 'Cause I'm pretty sure energy storage is counted in watt hours and not just watts.
@btbbass19842 жыл бұрын
Well, let's say both (in term of power - kW - and energy stored - kWh -). But the question is valid.. how much energy is stored?
@b43xoit2 жыл бұрын
SI would use watt seconds a. k. a. joules.
@justinweatherford81292 жыл бұрын
I have experienced that issue with several KZbin channels that I have subscribed and had notifications turned on for.
@rickrys27292 жыл бұрын
Nice video Dave, 70% energy recovery with compressed air is impressive indeed and will make if hard to hydrogen to compete. Offshore wind and oil platforms in deep water (say 6000 ft) would have great potential for storing compressed are on the ocean floor with low cost vessels. Hope all the mechanical issues of rotating machinery and piping can be done economically. Impressive to see the development taking off.
@katiecannon81862 жыл бұрын
We need to be thinking about how to make money serve our needs vs us being artificially constrained by what money “needs”. I mean, we didn’t wait around until tanks became “affordable” before building them to fight WWII. Among many others, Robert Hockett is good on thinking about how money can work for us versus against us. Ditto Rohan Gray.
@dimension27882 жыл бұрын
Nice one.... I love my 1 year old Lithium Iron Batteries. They have a smart BMS for all needed protections, which ofcourse there was none on my lead acids. They appear to be at least 3X more efficient and pay their keep with drastically reduced backup generator use. Its a win win. I took my old L16s away for recycling and Aloha. Never Again.
@benlamprecht64142 жыл бұрын
Thanks for yet another excellent video. I am pretty sure Compressed Air storage will be complementary to Li-ion batteries rather than areplacement, since the main problem solved is large scale, low cost, utility/grid scale storage, however not necessarily with the reaction time of chemical/battery storage. In addition, Li-ion batteries can be deployed anywhere, rapidly, compared to Compressed Air or Pumped Hydro storage
@tonysu88602 жыл бұрын
Would be interested in the energy density of CAES systems, but in theory a CAES system is competitive subject to the known limits of building a container strong enough to contain the pressure. So, is it a certainty that CAES can't compete with Li-ion in energy density?
@piernikowyloodek2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video! I typically check my subscribed section and find your videos there without any notifications. I hope this channel grows to 1M+ subs asap
@JustHaveaThink2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I hope so too!
@MartinMaat2 жыл бұрын
I had the "not being notified" problem in the past with other channels but it hasn't failed me with this channel yet.
@sanfrancrisko99622 жыл бұрын
One thing I've been wondering when I hear about grid storage solutions, is, for us in the UK, would offshore wind power (specifically floating off shore wind) get to the stage where we can simply oversubscribe it based on it's minimum generating capacity (I believe that's 56%) and shut it down when it's not needed? Or will that be prohibitively expensive?
@jimurrata67852 жыл бұрын
Curtailment is common in renewables, but usually overcapacity is diverted to grid storage or sold to another market through an interconnect cable. Power companies don't like it when a windy day drives market rates into negative numbers
@janniskoksel63362 жыл бұрын
Theoretically your solution is possible, but: 1) floating offshore is still under development so who knows whats gonna happen there 2) wether phenomena are usually 600km in diameter which means thet the transmission capacity in the whole country has to be big enough to support regions where the wind is calm (which changes over time) 3) wind capacity and compressed air storage seam to be relatively equal in cost per MW, so it makes more sense to place storage close to windfarms to get a more stable transmission In the end one just tries to minimise transmission costs (which is quite expensive for reneuable networks)
@valdisandersons1292 жыл бұрын
Overbuilding is a necessity with any power source to ensure stability and backups. It’s that with wind and solar it’s needed to a bigger extent. That’s where energy storage and demand side solutions are actively being reaearched and deployed. As @Jim Urrata stated, it’s already an issue in places like Denmark, UK, Ireland etc. Batteries, CAES, pumped hydro, even H2 is actively being looked into and deployed. The more rountrip efficiency you can get from the storage the less overbuilding one needs. The same applies to scale of the storage. What’s good a 99% roundtrip efficiency if you can’t scale it? CAES and especially pumped hydro can be scaled to silly levels even though they have ‘only’ 70-80% roundtrip efficiencies. The other driver for overbuilding of wind and to some extent solar is demand side industrial needs. If you can split water and use the H2 to make ammonia and plastics with a plant that’s designed around the intermittency of the power sources then you also end up with extra capacity that can be diverted to the grid when in a pinch (and the other way around if the chem plant has spare synthesis capacity, minimizing negative electricity prices and curtailment).
@jimurrata67852 жыл бұрын
@@valdisandersons129 Hydrogen is really a boondoggle, except in very specific industrial applications (like ''green' steel and high ISP rockets) Ammonia seems an attractive storage medium for it until you account for the bond strength and hazard to life. I wish I could envision the day when we have such generating overcapacity that industrial scale electrolysis is viable, but I don't have much faith that I will ever see it. That's not to say that we (as a species) should not push ahead with renewables like wind and solar. The other side of that is not viewing 'the plastics crisis' as a tremendous hydrocarbon opportunity. There's a huge amount of hydrogen right there, along with carbon that could be used or sequestered. But... again need lots of energy to break those bonds without creating nasties like dioxins.
@malcolm85642 жыл бұрын
I guess it just depends whether it's cheaper to build a windfarm or an equivalent storage facilty multilied by its efficiency.
@frankdelucey21372 жыл бұрын
Your not the only channel that is having problems with notifications. I wasn’t subscribed to your channel until today. But for some reason KZbin is offering me old videos that I have already watched and literally have a like on them.
@barneygoogle40032 жыл бұрын
Sounds quite promising. Oddly enough, this is the first I've heard of it. BTW, got the notification for this video, but don't remember seeing previous ones recently.
@pedawes42542 жыл бұрын
Great content as usual and I did receive a KZbin notification earlier today. HOWEVER, I experienced no less than 3 adverts during your video - this was not expected!!
@JustHaveaThink2 жыл бұрын
Apologies for this pedawes. Something went wrong this week. I'm trying to resolve it with YT today
@SoilMatrix_Biochar2 жыл бұрын
Hi David. I am not getting notifications either. Very sad about that. Your programs continue to be as well produced and delivered as ever. I hope to have our vision of producing hydrogen from the syngas generated by a biochar plant featured on JHAT some day. Thank you!
@chrisstearns102 жыл бұрын
Have you tried to usubscribeing and resubscribing and turning on notifications again? Just curious if that will work, have to wait a week to find out.
@tomchupick94502 жыл бұрын
Another great video. I’m a bit surprised with the 70% battery cycle efficiency with heat integrated compressed air storage systems. If it’s true, the thousands of steam turbines and gas turbines operating at ~30% net heat to power efficiency in LNG and Steam cracker compressor drives, should be able to double their efficiencies. Perhaps instead of direct électrisation, we should consider compressed air/motor hybrid drives to eliminate steam/fuel with much better renewables flexibility. The World’s first trillionnaire is probably already working this….
@jcornell32 жыл бұрын
Previous to today I was not getting notifications, but one did pop up for this video.
@motchmanjames93472 жыл бұрын
I'm not getting them...
@dosadoodle2 жыл бұрын
I'm curious if folks can confirm that KZbin app notifications are enabled in the app settings. For example, I'd previously enabled notifications when using my laptop, but I never enabled notifications in the KZbin app on my phone, so I never got phone notifications. I had to enable the KZbin app notifications in my phone's settings.
@Handleyman2 жыл бұрын
Yes John, you certainly are Good enough! Thank you!
@manickn68192 жыл бұрын
This seems quite promising. Simple enough to implement.
@tomthumb30852 жыл бұрын
This has to be a game changer, with massive potential for eventual cost per unit reductions. The problem is that it will probably be 30 years away for the UK knowing how our regulations work. Great video as always, thanks
@robroysyd2 жыл бұрын
My preference is for using the phase change of a gas e.g. CO2. I think there was a video about this here recently.
@jonathanroncolato63692 жыл бұрын
Exactly, Energy Dome m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/gom2hHtsj9qCjc0
@BobCampbell5302 жыл бұрын
You are correct. I have not received notifications of your new uploads, but this video was on the side as a suggested video.
@Yajna0072 жыл бұрын
Have become a fan of your channel.
@bearalohalani2 жыл бұрын
We became fans/subscribers of JHAT after watching one video a couple of years ago. :-) They show up here (Oregon, US Pacific time) on Sunday mornings so we watch then. We don't seem to have the option of a Notification bell, but we don't need it. Love your videos - thank you so much!
@rossmcleod79832 жыл бұрын
No and sporadic notifications from you for a couple of months. Thank you for your work too.
@nickwhiteley55002 жыл бұрын
Hi David.. yes been subscribed for years but notifications have stopped until today.. also pesky advertising has now started.. brilliant and concise video we have come to expect and cherish. Keep up the great work. Nick W
@DrakeN-ow1im2 жыл бұрын
AdBlock Pro works wonders on my Firefox browser.
@nickwhiteley55002 жыл бұрын
Yes I use that in Google chrome also, but I used to use David's dedicated App. But that packed up months ago..Hey ho there's always a way around though..😁
@JustHaveaThink2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Nick. Loads of people got ads this week. No idea why :-(. I'm trying to resolve the issue with YT today.
@punditgi2 жыл бұрын
Love this channel. Brilliant! 😃
@jurakarok33432 жыл бұрын
If this works, it will provide a large reduction in the demand for lithium from the largest lithium consumers, allowing lithium's primary use be in small portable devices. This would provide a useful cost reduction in many personal and medical devices.
@incognitotorpedo422 жыл бұрын
Air batteries won't work for cars. They're a grid-level storage solution. Cars use a lot of Li-ion cells.
@DrakeN-ow1im2 жыл бұрын
@@incognitotorpedo42 "Cars use a lot of Li-ion cells." - currently (pardon the pun), but there are other concepts in the intellectual pipelines.
@Kevin_Street2 жыл бұрын
My understanding is there's still an economic case for grid-scale storage using lithium batteries with retention times below eight hours or so. These compressed air facilities are big and relatively slow, which makes sense for longer term storage of electricity.
@robertwhite43072 жыл бұрын
HE KEEPS GOING AND GOING, Jonathan Goodenough. KEEP IT UP AND THANKS FOR THE CONTENT.
@runningman58712 жыл бұрын
Big fan of compressed gases.
@Lionhead21282 жыл бұрын
I laughed much harder than I should have. Comments like these... 😂👌
@yvanpimentel99502 жыл бұрын
MIT is been working on a compressor that introduce a spray of water in the compression chamber,another great idea is to construct this sistem next to a regular even nuclear power plant so they can use the exes, waste heat.
@kyoudaiken2 жыл бұрын
If you disable your watch history, KZbin works exactly like expected. I get ALL videos ALWAYS in my subscriber list. Never misses a beat since then. Notifications also work.
@JustHaveaThink2 жыл бұрын
Top tip. Thanks!
@Atommagi2 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna try that one out.
@glenmillin82792 жыл бұрын
I don't have notifications turned on. But I noticed this week that KZbin is slipping in advertising where they didn't before. By the way, I really enjoy your great videos.
@JustHaveaThink2 жыл бұрын
A few people have mentioned that ads are slipping in. I will try to stop this happening
@maddognl2 жыл бұрын
I've always received every notification, doesn't mean it doesn't effect others, but at least not everyone.
@jamesdesmond13012 жыл бұрын
Love your videos, and yes, they dropped off my notifications queue for a while, even though I fully rang the notification bell. Hoping you got that fixed with KZbin management. Anyway, I'm verrrry appreciative of your clean energy videos. It gives me hope.
@JustHaveaThink2 жыл бұрын
Thanks James
@tommaclennan73352 жыл бұрын
How are Highview's Liquid air battery project going and how do they compare?
@nathanmiddleton14782 жыл бұрын
Really the downside to the Western model of climate investment in this video. China directly invests as a country, whereas our governments sit on their laurals while companies have to come up with economic reasons for investing in climate change technologies. It's the reason there's no hope! :)
@SoundsNStuff2 жыл бұрын
Just to let you know I had 2 ads run during your video which was most unusual? Great channel!
@ViktorBerglund2 жыл бұрын
So did I
@JustHaveaThink2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for letting me know John. Something has gone wrong this week. I'm trying to sort it out with YT today
@somaswodi82732 жыл бұрын
bravo......nicely done young man
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@johanndohmann12812 жыл бұрын
unfortunately the world has fallen asleep. thank you for this video.
@lexvegers2422 жыл бұрын
Hello there, here''s another avid viewer of your channel who doesn't get the notifications for its videos. Never miss one, though.
@1703-s5l2 жыл бұрын
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@carlbrenninkmeijer89252 жыл бұрын
I like 2 things about batteries compared to compressed air. 1 No moving parts. 2 Room for improvement. But for longer term storage I think that batteries will remain a too expensive option.
@tonysu88602 жыл бұрын
Consider thermal storage. 1. No moving parts 2. Abundant, cheap materials 3. Based on well known physics used everywhere including in practically every home with basic modern conveniences 4. If low temperature (600 degrees F if Na or NaCl), minimal stress and extremes unlike CAES.
@carlbrenninkmeijer89252 жыл бұрын
@@tonysu8860 Good point. Thermal storage is great. But how to do it without moving parts? Pumps, blowers, valves etc..
@joannegailiusfullcirclephy65862 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Dave, for your excellent videos. I'm not getting notifications, but did get 2 interruptions today with ads, along with a third screen pop-up ad. KZbin shenanigans?
@JustHaveaThink2 жыл бұрын
Really?? That absolutely should NOT happen because I always turn monetisation OFF. I think YT just make up whatever rules suit them best :-(
@danburnes7222 жыл бұрын
Great content as usual Dave. I am aware of all these concepts. Many will work, but difficult to drive due to the large capital investment, incentive, and will of investors as you note. I believe the key to energy storage is effective, affordable, and Integratable heat storage capability. This will be key technology in the future.
@jamesmansion25722 жыл бұрын
I can't help thinking modular flow batteries will be more practical. Hopefully there will be some new developments.
@katiecannon81862 жыл бұрын
Humans create money out of our ability to think numerically. We really need to think about making money (our own invention) work for us vs being seen as some sort of natural impediment we can’t do anything about
@rajpattni65942 жыл бұрын
Hello David. Yes I too have been missing out on the notifications. It was only last week that I thought of your channel and double checked that I was still subscribed and yes I was/am. Let's hope YT can sort this. Even if they don't, you are unforgettable, and I will have my dose of catch up every now and then. Please continue with the wonderful work you do, it is excellently communicated, thought provoking and very appreciated, muchas gracias, sir.
@JustHaveaThink2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Raj. I really appreciate your feedback. All the best. Dave
@marco212742 жыл бұрын
Can you use old coal mines as storage facilities?
@jaysparrowhawk93882 жыл бұрын
I gave up on you tube notifications a long time ago. Don’t be fooled that your program is add free, you tube managed to slip two commercial breaks in while I viewed this. Although it’s worth it for viewing your great content
@judebrown41032 жыл бұрын
I do like these simple but obvious when you think about it ideas. They have to be the way forward surely....not sure about those tanks being buried in concrete though, not quite so environmentally sound? Another wonderful intelligent, well researched and thought provoking episode, thank you. 👍
@edwardbyard65402 жыл бұрын
True but these could be above ground and even stacked in a modular way to maximize space use.
@Gator23022 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dave, another great presentation. I’ve not been getting any notifications and watching tonight there were ads before & during, so something appears to be going awry.
@JustHaveaThink2 жыл бұрын
Hi Stuart. I am very sorry about this. Something has gone wrong this week. I am tying to sort it out with YT today
@rainerdeusser2 жыл бұрын
Let me humbly suggest that we no longer mention that batteries can catch fire. ICE vehicles catch fire far more frequently. Its asymmetric and the framing leads to a general assumption that EV are a hazard, which is not true. After all, in the long run we all die, but it wouldn't do to state that in every conversation.
@danyoutube74912 жыл бұрын
Well it's a drawback, however rare, of that particular technology compared to other battery technology, which is one reason alternatives to liithium ion batteries are sought after. I think it's relevant to mention it, even if some straw-graspers want to use it to have a go at renewables.
@EleanorPeterson2 жыл бұрын
Nope. ICE fuel is specifically designed and manufactured to vaporise, catch fire, burn, and explode. Everybody knows it's terribly dangerous stuff. Batteries, on the other hand, are not meant to burn under ANY circumstances, so if/when they do, it represents a catastrophic failure and is a newsworthy event. The siting of Lithium battery energy storage facilities in residential areas is a hugely controversial issue here in Britain. People deserve to know that the supposedly 'green, safe, clean, silent' installation on their doorstep has the potential to catch fire. It probably won't, but it might. Storing millions of gallons of petrol or aviation fuel in the same residential area would never be approved; a battery installation is not without risk, and people should be told so. Jet airliner crashes are inconvenient for a company's reputation and shareholders, too, but they do sometimes happen. When they happen for reasons of incompetence or negligence and hundreds of lives are lost, and then hundreds more are lost in a similar event a few months later, it's unacceptable to avoid mentioning the disasters, even if it upsets share prices and tarnishes a company's name. Pretending battery fires can't or won't happen may make certain people with certain brands of EV sleep more easily at night (and not have any adverse affect on their precious shares and investments), but a battery fire is always a disaster and should not be hushed up.
@rainerdeusser2 жыл бұрын
@@danyoutube7491 i think you underestimate the effect of this lack of understanding on the development of policy globally. government policy is affected by political sentiment and petrol dollars skew that sentiment against climate change transformation. the cumulative long-term effect will be devastating. think in terms of compound interest mathematics.
@jeremyschepers53312 жыл бұрын
Lots of KZbin ads during this video, not sure if it's supposed to be like that but I thought it was odd because you always thank your patrons from keeping the channel ad free.
@JustHaveaThink2 жыл бұрын
Yes, something went wrong this week. Ads should not appear. I'm trying to rectify this with YT today.
@shenmisheshou70022 жыл бұрын
Maria Helena Braga deserves to be mentioned alongside Goodenough because she has been major contributor to much of his recent work on alkali-metal anodes tech. She was the one that used glass electrolytes which was a key in that development. The next gen battery tech will probably benefit a great deal from her contributions.
@peterwooldridge72852 жыл бұрын
I get notifications intermittently although I was notified of this and the last video As to this week's edition...super. Thanks
@PaRAtro0per2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if you could combine this technology with a carbon capture technology. Since it already pumps great quantity of air, it might be possible to filter out CO2 as well. Rendering the process even more lucrative. No idea if it is technically feasible but I'm just having a think you know...
@timpontius2 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to let you know that I am getting ads that interrupt you video. I don’t think I saw those before, but they are happening now. Thanks for your great channel
@JustHaveaThink2 жыл бұрын
Hi Tim. Yes, something went wrong tis week. I'm trying to resolve it with YT today. Mu apologies
@TheDane_BurnAllCopies2 жыл бұрын
The World need to move a lot faster, there is no time to wait another 2-3 years.
@peacepoet19472 жыл бұрын
About what? Nuclear fallout?
@michaelcho12012 жыл бұрын
@@peacepoet1947 collapse of earth's system? I guess
@superspeederbooster2 жыл бұрын
If only 2-3 years...
@brianwheeldon46432 жыл бұрын
You're not wrong there, and we're going to be struggling to stay within 3 deg globally even with that level of action.
@incognitotorpedo422 жыл бұрын
@@brianwheeldon4643 We're on pace for 2-3 degrees. technological and economic developments could improve things, while hitting tipping points could cause problems. No reason to dilly-dally.
@thesilentone40242 жыл бұрын
Your thoughts on citys reducing there parking lot size by 50% by making parking garages. The new land can be used for green spaces to help cool and protect people from heat flooding and energy demand because its cooler so you cool the building less throughout the day. Oh ya parking garages can have same or more parking spaces and have batteries on first floor and solar or wind on top to reduce energy demands and increase energy storage.
@EllyCatfox2 жыл бұрын
Seems kinda like an excuse for lazy city design and continued over-reliance on cars.
@EllyCatfox2 жыл бұрын
We should reduce parking lot size by 50% by having 50% fewer cars, more public transit, more bike lanes, and having smaller, more frequent business, residential, and recreational zoning closer together. Suburbs need to be completely restructured, not parking lots. Gotta love these people who have the money to live a nice fat middle class life with big fat bookshelves telling the rest of us that more parking garages are what we need.
@placeholdername00002 жыл бұрын
Using fewer cars would be better, but yes. No more surface parking.
@EllyCatfox2 жыл бұрын
Sorry, I'm like, a total bitch today. ;_;
@thesilentone40242 жыл бұрын
@@EllyCatfox yes less cars good but until that happens why not release the land from its concrete prison and green it up.
@robinwhitebeam39552 жыл бұрын
The current state of the compressed air to electricity technology would translate to over one thousand facilities spread around the UK. The cost of building will then be £500 thousand million, or so, for one thousand sites. The idea of the stored energy sites would be to reduce the peak time load of the power stations. Generating electricity when needed plus a smaller energy storage system is possibly the way to go. Solar panel orientation should be east and west, as well as north and South to generate electricity when needed. Wonderful presentation as ever, thankyou.
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@johnbirk8432 жыл бұрын
There's one thing that I've learned in my 76 years on this planet that is anything mechanical wears down. One technology I would prefer is the AMBRI battery developed by MIT professor Donald Sadoway. .
@piccalillipit92112 жыл бұрын
*CONGRATULATIONS GOODENOUGH* on making 100 - you are a legend
@JP-ts2xi2 жыл бұрын
Hi Dave, another great video. Notifications work for me, but also got adverts this week?
@JustHaveaThink2 жыл бұрын
Sorry about that JP1. I'm trying to sort out the ads problem with YT
@glenmcd2 жыл бұрын
It's 1st Nov 2022, I have notifications for this channel fully enabled, yet the last notification I had from this channel was for "Solar Cooling", around two weeks ago. So I missed out on most recent two. I get a ton of notifications including for channels that I rarely view any more, however I haven't bothered comparing to see if I'm missing notifications from any other channels. I suggest that if YT have nothing to hide that they need to take this issue seriously. It's not as if they can't determine themselves whether notifications aren't going out unless their logging system is sub optimal. Finally, you do great work Dave and I very much enjoyed this video. I clicked on it when it came up in suggested videos to watch.
@Preciousgangster2 жыл бұрын
👆🏻Send me a direct message right away 🌺🍀..
@ancapftw91132 жыл бұрын
I have this channel set to always alert, but never got an alert for this video.
@1703-s5l2 жыл бұрын
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@rhetta98262 жыл бұрын
Highview Power in the UK uses liquid air energy storage, with captured heat as well. Efficiencies I think are in the 70% range as well. Because liquid air is utilized rather than compressed air, there is much less land use I believe, versus compressed Air energy storage systems.
@mikeheffernan2 жыл бұрын
Exciting and excellent information!
@berndmayer39842 жыл бұрын
in germany, an inventor also collects all his solar electricity with compressed air and simply uses a considerable number of cheap piston pumps that he moves very slowly, i.e. quasi isothermally. Efficiency approx. 90%
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@flutieflambert2 жыл бұрын
How is this any different from or superior to the Highview liquid air battery that claimed a 70% efficiency years ago (provided that the batteries are large enough, since efficiency increases with their size)?
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@cupiduspacis42092 жыл бұрын
Indeed. Surely the liquid air battery is simpler and cheaper, and off the shelf
@flutieflambert2 жыл бұрын
@@cupiduspacis4209 I’ve always felt that Highview is one of the most underrated technologies which, in my view, could solve all long term and large grid scale battery storage (without using lithium!) In addition, people seem to inappropriately focus on efficiency which is not the limiting factor. Rather, cost is the limiting factor and Highview currently beats all competition hands down for the reason you stated; an already existing supply chain of proven technologies.
@cupiduspacis42092 жыл бұрын
@@flutieflambert If I recall correctly, the efficiency was actually pretty good too -- maybe 70% or so. I'll have to recheck it.