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@SpeakOnFS1
@SpeakOnFS1 Жыл бұрын
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@davidtorresalcazar1633
@davidtorresalcazar1633 Жыл бұрын
Respectably Justin herbert has beat the chiefs back to back in arrowhead in week 17 2020 and in 2021 week 2
@mexico1395
@mexico1395 Жыл бұрын
@@davidtorresalcazar1633y. Y guy guy y iiuih I I I
@tamdango
@tamdango Жыл бұрын
When Jalen Hurts got paid, everyone said he needed to win a Super Bowl to justify his paycheck but now that Justin Herbert got paid, he only has to win a playoff game to be deemed successful? Make that make sense.
@jeanfourcade
@jeanfourcade Жыл бұрын
It's pure media nonsense and favoritism. Now, 2 things: 1 - for some reason Jalen's meteoric rise seems to displease many talking heads. The guy is not "liked". He's the phenom of the 2022 season (along with the otherworldly Mahomes and Miracle Purdy), but his name is barely been mentioned ever. 2 - Jalen does not need, nor does Herbert for that matter, to "justify" anything. Their employers (the owners) showed us all how worthy those QBs are to them. Owners don't "bet" on future results on the field. They invest in a QB knowing already what their global ROI will be on all fronts (TV and content rights, commercial exposure, jerseys, hot dogs...). It's all accounted for already. Peace, Tam.
@drewmole3713
@drewmole3713 Жыл бұрын
It’s only 1 difference.
@dogonit7412
@dogonit7412 Жыл бұрын
If you want to define a successful season as ONLY winning the Super Bowl ... you are setting yourself up for failure. 31 teams don't win a Super Bowl in any given year. All failures? Really?
@mccannesanford
@mccannesanford Жыл бұрын
I’m a diehard Herbert fan, I don’t think jalen needs to win a Super Bowl same with Lamar, they just need to stay healthy and produce in the realm of their best seasons. Same with Herbert.
@peteywheatstraw7670
@peteywheatstraw7670 Жыл бұрын
@@mccannesanford Sad part is that Lamar got paid big money, even in the face of his declining stats. Staying healthy is starting to become an issue for him also.
@tharealg.2728
@tharealg.2728 Жыл бұрын
Look how easy they gave him his money...no controversies and he has achieved far less than Lamar
@lord-marroking1315
@lord-marroking1315 Жыл бұрын
Different organization, it has nothing to do with Lamar Jackson. Let me guess it’s because LJ is black? 🤦‍♂️
@RetroNBA42
@RetroNBA42 Жыл бұрын
Lol you don’t pay people for accomplishments you pay them for how good they will be moving future. And Herbert will undoubtedly be better than LamaRB.
@madman1840
@madman1840 Жыл бұрын
​@@RetroNBA42yeah said that about goff and wentz too and look where they are now.
@saynomoremedia7463
@saynomoremedia7463 Жыл бұрын
@@RetroNBA42mvp? Playoff win?
@carlgilmore-murry5789
@carlgilmore-murry5789 Жыл бұрын
@@madman1840 Goff ain’t no scrub.. he did lead a team to the SB
@joshuamullins3882
@joshuamullins3882 Жыл бұрын
That jaguars comeback on the defense though.
@caper087
@caper087 Жыл бұрын
He was up by 27… his defense let him down.. offense did there job
@raptoryoppey7277
@raptoryoppey7277 Жыл бұрын
To me it’s on everybody u can’t just blame that on one thing or person to have a meltdown like that it’s on everybody
@Christian-xr7hc
@Christian-xr7hc Жыл бұрын
@@caper087really? what exactly did that offense do in the second half? absolutely nothing. don’t just blame the defense. Herbert is to blame also
@bt3913
@bt3913 Жыл бұрын
@@Christian-xr7hc how exactly? The defense forces 4 turnovers in the first half, which Herbert turned into a 27-0 lead. Then the defense completely collapsed in the 2nd half and gave up 31 points, along with the Chargers kicker missing the dagger FG… if you watched the game, you’d know Herbert wasn’t the problem
@Christian-xr7hc
@Christian-xr7hc Жыл бұрын
@@bt3913 oh, he wasn’t? i watched Herbert fail to score any points in the second half. but sure, it’s solely on the defense. Mahomes has been exceeding expectations with middle of the pack defenses for years and continues to get it done one way or another. there’s levels and Herbert isn’t there… YET. i think he’s a good/great QB but you have to get something done to be considered top 5 in the league
@So_Oneal
@So_Oneal Жыл бұрын
Daniel Jones and Justin Herbert the golden boys who both got their money with no resistance at all despite the lack of success....
@MBDR99
@MBDR99 Жыл бұрын
success is a team thing if you think the chargers arent winning games because of herbert then youre either a hater or dont know that football is a TEAM sport
@Nonono27489
@Nonono27489 Жыл бұрын
They white
@josephheenan1695
@josephheenan1695 Жыл бұрын
@@Nonono27489has nothing to do with it
@josephheenan1695
@josephheenan1695 Жыл бұрын
FACT: NO qb has put up more points in their first 3 season than Justin Herbert. Another fact is that no defense has allowed more points in a 3 year span EVER than the chargers defense over the last 3 years, but yeah, say you don’t know ball
@horrorchannel4561
@horrorchannel4561 Жыл бұрын
Clearly you’ve never watched a chargers game. You can argue Herbert is the most skilled quarterback in the league. It all comes down to the whole team not just one person.
@yaboi9191
@yaboi9191 Жыл бұрын
Definitely crazy how they do the running quarterbacks or quarterbacks with the ability to run because he definitely got his money and a lot of it way easier
@RUTHLESSambition5
@RUTHLESSambition5 Жыл бұрын
It's wyte owners dealing with black men. What do you expect from those people. Jerry Jones is a Kla nsman
@chetjablonski1993
@chetjablonski1993 Жыл бұрын
Mahomes & Allen got theirs the easiest and they can both do it all. Perspective, timing and the market; it’s really convoluted
@darrenkaminski2483
@darrenkaminski2483 Жыл бұрын
Less risk of injury. He missed one play because of injuries.
@gbmbg114
@gbmbg114 Жыл бұрын
Hey, I’m no Herbert fan (overhyped, treated with kid gloves, needs to win more), but Kyler got paid way early, Hurts was an easy contract to reset the market.. Josh got the check pretty easily.. and to be fair, Lamar didn’t have an agent to shield him from the PR push against him from an already stingy organization.. and then still reset the market.. to me, Herbert should have a higher bar set for him than “win a playoff game”.. but the money makes total sense
@leetraviusmckay2919
@leetraviusmckay2919 Жыл бұрын
Joy: Deshaun Watson has to win a Super Bowl Also Joy: Justin Herbert has to win a playoff game
@darrengordon-hill
@darrengordon-hill Жыл бұрын
Has Watson won a playoff game? Are we not allowed to have individual expectations?
@darrengordon-hill
@darrengordon-hill Жыл бұрын
"Waah, Denver is expected to return to the Finals, but all Charlotte has to do is make the Play-In tournament" No, you're right - fire CHA coach if they don't make the Finals...
@ocampbell1954
@ocampbell1954 Жыл бұрын
​​@@darrengordon-hillThis is the first time Watson actually has a real team. Mf had Hopkins and that's it. Chargers have elite receivers and a run game.
@darrengordon-hill
@darrengordon-hill Жыл бұрын
@@ocampbell1954 ...and (I'm hearing) injuries and a lack of depth...
@QuanBerry
@QuanBerry Жыл бұрын
These people on are not consistent and bias smh
@aidankotsch1568
@aidankotsch1568 Жыл бұрын
I think people forget that in that playoff game herbert DID drive his team down the field and set up a chip shot field goal of like 38 yards that the kicker missed, giving the jags the final possession down only 2 instead of 5. If that kick goes in we apparently all have a very different opinion of herbert, which makes no sense
@jeanfourcade
@jeanfourcade Жыл бұрын
Excellent point Aidan. But remember: football and football talk shows are all about mass entertaiment and simplistic narratives, certainly not enlightenment ! Peace, man.
@suv3534
@suv3534 Жыл бұрын
We can literally do this for multiple QBs in the past why should Herbert only get a pass? The reality is when his defense stopped getting him short fields he couldn’t produce more than 3 points
@dallassavage7128
@dallassavage7128 Жыл бұрын
​@@suv3534thats because they didn't make adjustments. Herbert gets hate because defense is a problem. My issue with Herbert is he took a big deal instead of a slightly better one to get help on that side of the ball.
@82TheGrouch
@82TheGrouch Жыл бұрын
Or that the starting RB had 31 yards for THE GAME with a 4 TD lead.
@aidankotsch1568
@aidankotsch1568 Жыл бұрын
@@suv3534 Ok but if trevor lawrence's kicker would have missed the field goal with no time left would that have made his second half performance any less extraordinary? I believe it isn't a QBs fault when they put their team in a position to win and the rest of the team can't execute. Herbert played a solid clean playoff game with no run support or O line blocking. He wasn't extraordinary in the second half cause the OC decided dink and dunk offense and 2.6 YPC was good enough to finish the game.
@troysmith6190
@troysmith6190 Жыл бұрын
I find it really suspect how lamar, and dak had to fight to get paid and how they got criticized by media for being greedy even know both of them had done a solid job by the time their contacts were up but Herbert "deserves" his new contract even know he hasn't done half of what they had already have done 🤔
@boston18sfs
@boston18sfs Жыл бұрын
Or it's just a better run organization that planned ahead
@realmtreader6566
@realmtreader6566 Жыл бұрын
different organizations. Should be crying about how Baltimore handled it
@KTF0
@KTF0 Жыл бұрын
If they waited later it would cost them more money.
@darrengordon-hill
@darrengordon-hill Жыл бұрын
​@@boston18sfsNah, "racism"
@mfranklin5732
@mfranklin5732 Жыл бұрын
As a black Lions' fan, it's not racism. Hurts got his money quickly. I get being hesitant on Dak, I like him but he's super limited as a qb. I hate how they did LJ and I don't think it was because he's black. I think how the media trashes his throwing ability when he's won far more than Dak, Herbert, Allen, Cousins, etc. With LESS talent around him is kind of discriminatory. Like look at the Pressure that the media puts on him him versus Allen and Herbert. They talk about injuries to the chargers like LJ didn't go a whole year with 3rd string players when hard the team had acl and Achilles injuries.
@bluebluntz
@bluebluntz Жыл бұрын
Shady loves to throw shade on Prescott in any QB conversation. This segment was about Herbert, not Dak. That’s is textbook haterism.
@chrisalvarado3601
@chrisalvarado3601 Жыл бұрын
Seriously!!
@marcusaurelius5149
@marcusaurelius5149 Жыл бұрын
He should. Dak notoriously throws interceptions and loses games.
@freddygaulman5493
@freddygaulman5493 Жыл бұрын
@@marcusaurelius5149so if he's so bad then why do they put bigger expectations on him than the top guys. Funny how Allen, lamar, Herbert etc can lose season after season and it's no big deal but Dak loses and they want to spend an entire hour talking about him
@marcusaurelius5149
@marcusaurelius5149 Жыл бұрын
@@freddygaulman5493 If you make more excuses maybe Dak will date you.
@aem870
@aem870 5 ай бұрын
They call him Shady for a reason.
@brianwilson3627
@brianwilson3627 Жыл бұрын
He's like phillip rivers all over again.
@Shiba_Inu_Des
@Shiba_Inu_Des Жыл бұрын
No Acho in this video! Great, I'll watch/like.
@TheInterestedObserver
@TheInterestedObserver Жыл бұрын
If he went to Sn Francisco he could have won it all multiple times
@Wrigside_Playa
@Wrigside_Playa Жыл бұрын
TJ one of my favorite wide outs back in the day
@soma27
@soma27 Жыл бұрын
“Jalen hurts has been to a Super Bowl”. Yeah, imagine if Herbert only had to score more than 7 points every game to get to the Super Bowl. Pretty sure he could do that no problem. Talking about what he did in the second half and not talking about how he drove 60 yards for an easy fg to change the game, and his kicker misses it. He has lead his team to more points in a qbs first 3 seasons ever. His defense has given up more points than any team in a qbs first 3 seasons ever.
@daveczarnik6017
@daveczarnik6017 Жыл бұрын
Say it again. That chargers defense was literally awful last year
@Shiba_Inu_Des
@Shiba_Inu_Des Жыл бұрын
yep....@@daveczarnik6017
@bernardocoelho6069
@bernardocoelho6069 Жыл бұрын
People are jumping on the Jelen Hurts band wagon too soon ... lets wait just one more season and then say he is what we think he might be
@CHEFFszn
@CHEFFszn Жыл бұрын
@@bernardocoelho6069there is no bandwagon jalens a dog he has mamba mentality and I trust him fully
@Ususbensksuan
@Ususbensksuan Жыл бұрын
Eagles game against the lions, packers, and chiefs refute the entire first half of your argument lmaooooooooo
@northwestkidmarc
@northwestkidmarc Жыл бұрын
Bro i been saying this since herbert was drafted ik they needed a qb like him after what they had years ago with rivers fr ik herbert would be a great fit for la fr everyone kept saying they would draft tua but ik herbert is a better fit and it definitely paid off 👏👏👏👏😁😁💯😁💯💯💯🙏👋 proud of la and herbert herbert is definitely special for la glad they finally have their franchise guy
@xxngel5979
@xxngel5979 Жыл бұрын
When yall gonna realize that it’s not just the Quarterbacks that play the game but the defense too chargers have had terrible defenses over the pass 3 years of Herbert’s career so far yet it’s his talent that still gets people to keep the chargers relevant. Kudos to Herbert, well deserved !
@fr3akzilla769
@fr3akzilla769 Жыл бұрын
Chargers have had top3 defensive rosters every year. Terrible coaching and a lot of injuries always takes away from them, but the coaching can be controlled. Still, Herbert ain't winning anything and has no accolades to earns such a deal. Chargers don't care about winning, they want to put up a show and earn those dollars.
@bardwell84
@bardwell84 Жыл бұрын
3 pts in the 2nd half of a 30 pts game and lost... thats not all defensive there lol
@alexmeneses92
@alexmeneses92 Жыл бұрын
@@fr3akzilla769you’re full of it lol
@xxngel5979
@xxngel5979 Жыл бұрын
@@bardwell84 you're comparing one game to an entire 3 year career. you should watch games and understand how infuriating it was to watch Joe Lombardi use busted offense.
@xxngel5979
@xxngel5979 Жыл бұрын
@@fr3akzilla769 you clearly don't know what you're talking about buddy😭
@joseponce6332
@joseponce6332 Жыл бұрын
everybody always says he had a down year last year & how he’s not top 5 but no one ever mentions why he had a down year 😂😂
@joeyzze
@joeyzze Жыл бұрын
Playing with broken ribs and a torn labrum will do that lol
@princecheck11
@princecheck11 Жыл бұрын
doesnt matter why bc nobody mentions for lamar or these other qbs
@madman1840
@madman1840 Жыл бұрын
Dak got critized for getting paid 160 million with alot more post season success than herbert. Time to critize other players for doing less while getting paid more.
@iMaybeRight
@iMaybeRight Жыл бұрын
complexion for the protection
@gbmbg114
@gbmbg114 Жыл бұрын
Just to keep it fair, everyone criticized the cowboys for NOT paying Dak.. he had a gruesome injury and still got paid.. he got criticized for not living up to the contract..
@madman1840
@madman1840 Жыл бұрын
​​@@gbmbg114he had 2 12 wins seasons and won a playoff game......herbert got 260 million(100 million more than dak) and got priase for losing a playoff game than dak did for winning one.
@madman1840
@madman1840 Жыл бұрын
​@@gbmbg114dak isn't a top 5 QB but he is a good QB that gets more criticism than guys who have never done anything.
@realmtreader6566
@realmtreader6566 Жыл бұрын
STAY MAD
@bradmontgomery4404
@bradmontgomery4404 Жыл бұрын
Shady take was stupid.. bro Herbert hadn’t had no Moments???? 😂😂 silly child
@iali00
@iali00 Жыл бұрын
Shady earned his name. Always throwing shade at Dak. Must’ve taken his girl or something.
@ptrendres
@ptrendres Жыл бұрын
It's so crazy that a woman who has Never ever put a set of pads on and got her clocked cleaned is telling people how and what to do in a team game with a cap .
@drb5003
@drb5003 Жыл бұрын
Like people said Lamar got his contract from Hurts, Herbert got his contract from LAMAR... 😂😂😂😂😂
@kingtrel3717
@kingtrel3717 Жыл бұрын
Of course Herbert get a pass 😅
@marcusaurelius5149
@marcusaurelius5149 Жыл бұрын
black fragility
@billymakale1338
@billymakale1338 Жыл бұрын
I like this new dude. He's chill. Please don't bring acho back
@lancehandy7487
@lancehandy7487 Жыл бұрын
I'm still waiting for the day the owners take less 🤔
@lancehandy7487
@lancehandy7487 Жыл бұрын
That's a pretty low bar win a play off game & I'm shocked at these guys cause Lamar & others don't get that pass from them. 🤔
@leroy1012
@leroy1012 Жыл бұрын
By others U gotta mean black quarterbacks It’s alright to say it
@darrengordon-hill
@darrengordon-hill Жыл бұрын
LAMAR HAS WON A PLAYOFF GAME!! Why are YOU LOWERING the bar FOR HIM (by suggesting his bar be SOMETHING HE'S ALREADY DONE????) MEANWHILE, Herbert HASN'T won a playoff game... so his bar is appropriate!!! START by winning ONE Playoff game, before we expect you to win 3 (aka a Superbowl)!!! WALK BEFORE YOU CAN RUN!!! CLEARLY the bar ISN'T "just make Playoffs" - gonna assume he's done THAT!!! BARS: *Make the Playoffs *Win a playoff game *Make the Conference Championship *Make the Superbowl *Win the Superbowl . AT LEAST 5 different "levels of expectation"!!!
@Jemreaux
@Jemreaux Жыл бұрын
He’s no different than Lions Matt Stafford to me…
@jeanfourcade
@jeanfourcade Жыл бұрын
Or Cousins to me
@Jemreaux
@Jemreaux Жыл бұрын
@@jeanfourcade production wise but only reason I didn’t say Kirk is because honestly he doesn’t have all of the talent/physical gifts like Herbert and Stafford . I think he’s actually overachieving every year based on his actual talent vs production.
@jeanfourcade
@jeanfourcade Жыл бұрын
@@Jemreaux You're right, Cousins is probably the QB who achieves the most with the least personal skills ! Thanks for your input, Kris, peace to you.
@mccannesanford
@mccannesanford Жыл бұрын
Shady said Herbert needs a signature moment like jalen had in the Super Bowl. Well Herbert didn’t have a run game at all, he had more second half yards in the 27-0 comeback loss than hurts had in the second half of the Super Bowl. Chargers need fix the run D and need a rb who can run the clock out
@bobbymcdonald6121
@bobbymcdonald6121 Жыл бұрын
Always making Excuses for Herbert Allen Burrow. Stop the madness.
@mccannesanford
@mccannesanford Жыл бұрын
@@bobbymcdonald6121 Allen has no excuses, insane team, great defense, incredible winter months home field advantage. He’s just very careless with the ball in the red zone
@mccannesanford
@mccannesanford Жыл бұрын
@@bobbymcdonald6121 burrow like Tua, throws a 5 yard out and their recievers speed past everyone and the media is like “WHAT A PLAY BY BURROW(TUA)”
@iali00
@iali00 Жыл бұрын
Got the right complexion. Lamar got dragged through the mud. Had an MVP and took his team to the playoffs every year he played. Racisms alive and well. Nobody is covering that in the media.
@damianpresha9833
@damianpresha9833 Жыл бұрын
A SuperBowl head coach and elite defense can't leave that out. His expectations should be higher plus his numbers trash I don't get the outrage.
@chetjablonski1993
@chetjablonski1993 Жыл бұрын
One had an agent while the other did not. We don’t know what went on behind closed doors. And this is bunk, look how effortless Hurts, Wilson & Mahomes got their bags $$$. It’s all relative. I thinking you’re reading into this too much and being paranoid. Good luck this year though!
@iali00
@iali00 Жыл бұрын
@@chetjablonski1993 Dak had an agent but had the same thing. They still talk about all the money he got from the Cowboys but forgetting he had to play on a franchise tag. He also had more accomplishments than Herbert.
@iali00
@iali00 Жыл бұрын
@@damianpresha9833 that Super Bowl head coach and defense were headed for a losing season when Lama took over. It’s obvious there’s a double standard but keep denying it if that’s what you like to do.
@damianpresha9833
@damianpresha9833 Жыл бұрын
@@iali00 There's no double standard they gave him the keys changed the offense. Made him a star had a top 3 defense his first three years. He didn't produce a SuperBowl run even though he was A league MVP. He underperformed throwing the ball when they needed it the most. Yall need to face the reality he has not lived up to the expectations made by people like you who make excuses every step of the way. I call it right down the middle. Fact is he about to make all this money yet There's no pressure for the Ravens to win the SuperBowl yet Joe Flacco had to get paid before he got paid. Lamar got it handed to him not to say he didn't deserve the money. However Ravens fans don't care if he win a SuperBowl as long he got paid. Keep crying about racism Joe Flacco gets crapped on all the time everything fair.
@abdeenabdul7803
@abdeenabdul7803 Жыл бұрын
Have you not seen what herbert did against raiders lol that was crazy
@rgalvan619
@rgalvan619 Жыл бұрын
they dsiacknoledge all of his great work and male it seem he dont have that "performance or moments" 4:18
@raptoryoppey7277
@raptoryoppey7277 Жыл бұрын
@@rgalvan619he has the moments but then his defense gives it up everyone would’ve remembers that 3rd and like 18 this year vs the cheifs in week 11 and made a big 50 yard throw and scored a td defense gets a stop that’s a big moment Mike Williams in week 18 vs the raiders catches that pass in OT that’s another moment week 15 vs cheifs in 2021 he leads a big drive to give them the lead then the defense cant stop the cheifs in regulation and in OT
@raptoryoppey7277
@raptoryoppey7277 Жыл бұрын
@@rgalvan619the difference with hurts and burrow is their defense steps up and makes plays in 2021 vs the raiders in the playoffs they get an int at the goaline to win in Tennessee they get an int to give burrow a short field to lead a game winning drive vs the cheifs they hold the cheifs to 3 points in the 2nd half and in OT got a int to give Burrow once again a short field to lead a game winning drive
@raptoryoppey7277
@raptoryoppey7277 Жыл бұрын
@@rgalvan619lol they don’t realize this is a team game lol if bengals don’t get that int in the wild card in 2021 and lose then nobody is talking about anything if the bengals don’t get that goaline fumble vs the ravens in the playoffs last year and they lose nobody saying anything
@CaseyAZ
@CaseyAZ Жыл бұрын
This channel hates Herbert bro
@mikecutz6387
@mikecutz6387 Жыл бұрын
plz keep joe haden on this show & more often...
@richardgeorginis2328
@richardgeorginis2328 Жыл бұрын
I've tried to watch this show, it's just bad. First Things First is WAY better.
@jrsands
@jrsands Жыл бұрын
The OC Joe Lombardi failed in that game.
@zein9227
@zein9227 Жыл бұрын
Chargers have elite talent in all key positions, especially on defense and at WR and RB but the clock is ticking. Now that he got paid, he has to deliver.
@joemolina4351
@joemolina4351 Жыл бұрын
he has delivered. he’s had a historically bad defense and coaching staff. he had the worst OC in football last year. and still balled out. Herbert is the reason the chargers are even winning games. without herbert, the chargers would maybe win 5 games
@stephensullivan1011
@stephensullivan1011 Жыл бұрын
Nah time for the coaches to coach. Herbert has delivered plenty.
@Ramiz112
@Ramiz112 Жыл бұрын
This is a real question; What quarterback has ever overcome horrible coaching and a dysfunctional franchise and made consistent deep playoff runs?
@whitewhale9012
@whitewhale9012 Жыл бұрын
Who cares? He's choosing to stay in that situation.
@WeylandLabs
@WeylandLabs Жыл бұрын
Its 42 million per year not 52 million, the new contract negates his rookie contract and its a total of 7 years. DYOR
@darrengordon5197
@darrengordon5197 Жыл бұрын
With all this money it’s time to win a playoff game!!!
@stephensullivan1011
@stephensullivan1011 Жыл бұрын
Time for the coaches to coach
@f3rnandoll
@f3rnandoll Жыл бұрын
Jalen Hurts had one good season. One. Not to mention he plays in the NFC. Did we ignore Herbert’s first two seasons where he solidified himself as a Top-5 and forget that he played the entire season with fractured rib cartilage and a torn labrum on his non-throwing shoulder towards the end of the season. And still put up numbers? Need I mentioned the Chargers defense?
@CastroJr92
@CastroJr92 Жыл бұрын
Hurts was 2nd Team All Pro. 2nd in MVP voting. Balled out in the SB. Coulda easily won MVP and been 1st Team All Pro had he not been injured and a bounce here or there and he's a SB Champ and SB MVP on top of it. He's accomplished more in less time than Herbert. Herbert has to not just win a playoff game but make a deep run. Conference Championship at least.
@TruthLC
@TruthLC Жыл бұрын
@Stephennatoli While I agree with this, at the same time OP's right about Hurts only having one dominant season
@snorris
@snorris Жыл бұрын
HE NEEDS TO BE AN MVP CANDIDATE AND WIN A PLAYOFF GAME NOW. LAMAR JACKSON ENERGY
@djbeazy
@djbeazy Жыл бұрын
Herbert has not been great. Thank you chargers for wasting your money.
@damianpresha9833
@damianpresha9833 Жыл бұрын
What he's been then ? Numbers say otherwise
@gbmbg114
@gbmbg114 Жыл бұрын
@damianpresha9833 .. eh, W’s and L’s are the numbers that matter.. Herbert has been pretty darn good.. “great” is a title that’s built on W’s.. “great” would’ve found a way to win that playoff game
@heberhernandez2879
@heberhernandez2879 Жыл бұрын
I feel like there are times Herbert outperforms mahomes against each other. But mahomes doing mahomes-like things outshines Herbert stats. And defense letting chiefs win. I still think even if Herbert does beat mahomes multiple times not winning division will still be his next negative criticism. I mean coach plays a big role. Who would you have Reid or Staley. Reid been proven 20+ years
@raptoryoppey7277
@raptoryoppey7277 Жыл бұрын
Agreed herbert has played equally as well as mahomes in almost every single matchup difference is cheifs somehow always end up with the ball last lol and our defense can’t stop a nosebleed Herbert woulda have 3 wins against mahomes if his defense stopped the cheifs in the last 2 mins
@heberhernandez2879
@heberhernandez2879 Жыл бұрын
@@raptoryoppey7277 it’s also hard to beat someone that is in your division because teams draft to beat division opponents
@suv3534
@suv3534 Жыл бұрын
The only time Herbert outplayed Mahomes was week 3 2021 every other game Mahomes outplayed him
@Ausin204
@Ausin204 Жыл бұрын
I really admire you
@asmrbaby9619
@asmrbaby9619 Жыл бұрын
Can we start a petition to get joy Taylor off tv she’s terrible And had very little football knowledge
@DalvinsUnofficialSecurity
@DalvinsUnofficialSecurity Жыл бұрын
All the Lamar Jackson cryers. If he had an arm like Herbert, the ravens wouldn’t have hesitated
@robertgray320
@robertgray320 Жыл бұрын
Herbert is highly overrated, I've said this a while back.............the man hasn't accomplished anything. I think he's a good player, but hasn't accomplished anything to warrant such a contract. He reminds me of Matt Ryan who was good but could never be the man in big moments and he was overrated as well.
@fr3akzilla769
@fr3akzilla769 Жыл бұрын
Couldn't ask for a better Herbert contract as a Chiefs fan 😂
@NickMendez2321
@NickMendez2321 Жыл бұрын
I mean it doesn’t exactly benefit the chiefs in any way.. why would you be happy a division rival locked down one of the best QB prospects the world has ever seen through there first 3 seasons? Don’t play yourself. Everybody knows Herbert isn’t the problem with the chargers
@prakdescott8667
@prakdescott8667 Жыл бұрын
I’ve got nothing against Herbert, he’s good no question. I’ve just never seen a player crowned so much before accomplishing. I know I sound stupid, but I really feel if Herbert was 6’1 not 6’6, everyone would scrutinize and trash him.
@dariuswalker4542
@dariuswalker4542 Жыл бұрын
All QBs are overpaid
@Cali2FRESH1
@Cali2FRESH1 Жыл бұрын
Chargers last year did what they could with what they had. Leading in injuries . Plus Herbert rib injury in game two, we fans thought the season was over. Chargers stay healthy and bolts up ⚡⚡⚡⚡⚡
@paulmitchell6755
@paulmitchell6755 Жыл бұрын
Congratulations Mr Herbert!
@Ramiz112
@Ramiz112 Жыл бұрын
Shady got that CTE coming on today.
@ThatJerkDude
@ThatJerkDude Жыл бұрын
Show so much better with out Ocho
@17thN.O
@17thN.O Жыл бұрын
TJ and Shady were two of the best to do it.
@1501SMillard
@1501SMillard Жыл бұрын
Its not the players responsibility to manage the teams salary cap.
@deppsterdeppe725
@deppsterdeppe725 Жыл бұрын
Guess what...The analysts,fans,everybody were all saying the very same criticisms and trash about Peyton Manning early in his career. All stats no wins etc Peyton did NOT win a playoff game till 2013 his 5th year. And we all know about that great story. Herbert will make his mark BIG this year.
@iReply2Dummies
@iReply2Dummies Жыл бұрын
If you up 27 and your defense is letting the opposition back in the game, GO SCORE! It's on both the offense and defense to close out the game. With this logic, it ain't ever the offense fault for losing a game once they take a lead
@PD-qu8dq
@PD-qu8dq 10 ай бұрын
Unless your QB is Lamar or dak
@OustandingTv
@OustandingTv Жыл бұрын
Keep tj on permanently
@doobiemarz5385
@doobiemarz5385 Жыл бұрын
Cap…. The defense forced multiple turnovers and scored. Dude trippin
@nolimitcrane3937
@nolimitcrane3937 Жыл бұрын
Only in the first half second half they all just crumbled
@Christian-xr7hc
@Christian-xr7hc Жыл бұрын
@@nolimitcrane3937and Herbert didn’t do anything in the second half. so he’s to blame also
@jonathangalindo5051
@jonathangalindo5051 Жыл бұрын
Everyone talking about race lol get over the Black Lives Matter mindset already it’s just a sport smh
@JuanCruzBeltran-j1h
@JuanCruzBeltran-j1h Жыл бұрын
Win or loose it’s a win win
@goldteethpoohproductions2707
@goldteethpoohproductions2707 Жыл бұрын
As a chargers fan THEY'RE RIGHT POINT BLANK PERIOD. He needs to win a playoff or more but..... HE STILL SHOULD BE TOP 5 QB (MY OPINION) MAHOMES BURROWS HERBERT ALLEN HURTS (MY OPINION)
@mikecutz6387
@mikecutz6387 Жыл бұрын
this panel is the best... slick and acho are cool but THIS CREW!!
@freetoplay169
@freetoplay169 Жыл бұрын
These people would rather you score 1 TD per qtr vs score 30 points a game...
@thenewguy667
@thenewguy667 Жыл бұрын
Mahomes 1st 3 years as a starter 114 tds and 23 picks . Herbert 94 tds and 35 picks .
@kaidencowart4412
@kaidencowart4412 Жыл бұрын
No problem getting his money i think it's ownership.
@mikecutz6387
@mikecutz6387 Жыл бұрын
i like joe haden on the show!! go gators!
@mashedpotato982
@mashedpotato982 Жыл бұрын
His receivers have to stay healthy though. Also, Brady didn't sign the highest contract in NFL until 2011.
@thekyleblue8318
@thekyleblue8318 Жыл бұрын
Wait but they won't pay the running back? 🤷🏾‍♂️
@MikeRobNxtBestArtist
@MikeRobNxtBestArtist Жыл бұрын
How does one have 262 million to give over 5 years. Smh. All these homeless people out here. Give hime 200 million and save the 62 for helping our people in America find a way to be great
@martinsleight321
@martinsleight321 Жыл бұрын
I love how the offence blasts the Jaguars up 27, yet it's the offense's fault for the loss? C'mon man. The other team has a defense too. Chargers defense lost them a won game, blaming that on the guy that orchestrated a 27 point lead is absurd. 'Oh he could've got 3 more points' he can't even do that, he's not on the punt team! They could've let him down too! If I was on the defense that night, I would be apologizing to the offense, not just Herbert.
@suv3534
@suv3534 Жыл бұрын
The defense is the only reason they had a 27-0 lead giving them short field after short field stop acting like the offense was driving down the field
@martinsleight321
@martinsleight321 Жыл бұрын
@@suv3534 I didn't say they were - I said they did enough. 27 points 'Should' win games, if your defense is upto standard, but they couldn't get off the field.
@EAGLESNETWORK
@EAGLESNETWORK Жыл бұрын
Bro they payin QBs 554.4 million dollars basically all of they salaries combined is that come on now RBs don’t deserve AT least 13 a year
@ACJando
@ACJando Жыл бұрын
Look at Joy all happy her man got paid! 😂😂
@blizz1004
@blizz1004 Жыл бұрын
Defense for 4 Turnovers. Speaking as a true WR. Smh. Blame the defense 🤬
@MBDR99
@MBDR99 Жыл бұрын
and what happened in the second half? that defense let them score every drive lmao people like you swear herberts the only dude on the field
@blizz1004
@blizz1004 Жыл бұрын
@@MBDR99 offense cannot maintain a drive. Do u know football. U pass the ball and its complete what happens. The clock stop. Four 3 and outs with nor running the ball smh. So the defense is force back on the field smh . So I guess u blame the falcons defense in the Superbowl when they lost to the PATS. SMH
@rorroreyes1739
@rorroreyes1739 Жыл бұрын
Bolt up Herbie glad you got your bag
@princecheck11
@princecheck11 Жыл бұрын
crazy how matt ryan got majority of the blame for the superbowl lost but we trynna let justin herbert off the hook who supposed to be a transcendent thrower of the football
@Shiba_Inu_Des
@Shiba_Inu_Des Жыл бұрын
BTW, ANY team would've paid J Herb this money. Fact.
@_unclecharles_
@_unclecharles_ Жыл бұрын
lets be real the only reason Herbert got this money is because the Chargers wanted to get out in front of it before it was gonna cost them way more had Herbert had a good year and they won playoff games this year.
@zein9227
@zein9227 Жыл бұрын
I have to say: This show is much better without Ocho.
@SofyeatBasketball
@SofyeatBasketball Жыл бұрын
Lmao I thought they were talking about Aaron Rodgers with the big check means big responsibility
@kamryncole7738
@kamryncole7738 Жыл бұрын
Mccoy tried to go at dak.... SMH them wins talk
@bifrost_1824
@bifrost_1824 Жыл бұрын
I think the chargers offense doesn’t get some of the blame they deserve with the playoff loss to the jags. If the offense can’t score any points unless the defense and special team forces a turnover and give the offense short field position imo they can’t be off the hook.
@thomasterry1131
@thomasterry1131 Жыл бұрын
Herbert and Hurts deserved that money.These NBA players get fully guaranteed,they are not worthy!!!
@warrengavin4502
@warrengavin4502 Жыл бұрын
The jags defense let up 3 points in the second half and your mad at the chargers defense? Chargers couldn't score without Trevor throwing pics 😂
@devinpayton7475
@devinpayton7475 Жыл бұрын
I like this crew better than acho
@tyrelljefferson7718
@tyrelljefferson7718 Жыл бұрын
Its nuts he hasnt won a play off game and got his money! And he got every excuse they refused to give lamar!
@timothypayton7623
@timothypayton7623 Жыл бұрын
NFL fans now Team up 50-0 in the first half QB throws 8 td no interceptions Second half get out scored 51-50 It's the Quarterback's fault defense doesn't matter lol
@eliasnicholson
@eliasnicholson Жыл бұрын
The issue is, he wasn’t putting those points to get the lead in the first place. Y’all casuals didn’t watch the game when the defense gave them short fields and they ran the ball for multiple touchdowns. Herbert had 1 TD and y’all was ready to hype him up at halftime and then when he choked y’all cried about defense, coaching, etc. He’s not that guy I’m sorry #15❤
@raptoryoppey7277
@raptoryoppey7277 Жыл бұрын
@@eliasnicholsonyea kinda hard to put up points when mike Williams is out ur o line is getting dominated u have no run game like at all and ur shoulder and ribs are messed up and u have a guy like joe Lombardi calling plays just saying mahomes got that running game he got that clutch defense he got that the best offensive mind we have ever seen
@Wraith3100
@Wraith3100 Жыл бұрын
Others have done more and had to scratch for theirs. Typical
@abdeenabdul7803
@abdeenabdul7803 Жыл бұрын
Nah Ive seen Herbert do crazy things and have huge moments,just that is coach is cap 🧢
@eliasnicholson
@eliasnicholson Жыл бұрын
What huge moments? His playoff game? Or are you talking about his regular season warmups and
@christopherjudd8996
@christopherjudd8996 Жыл бұрын
When it was Deshaun Watson they said for that money he has to win the Superbowl now Watson is 7th highest paid with this new deal and Justin Herbert is the highest paid and all they're saying is win a playoff game? It's not slanted though, Not at all. This is the stuff sports analyst claim they don't do, They say we aren't slanted against any team it's all fair and unbiased. Anyone really believe that now after hearing this when just a short while back the discussion was Deshaun Watson because I certainly remember it very well.
@Shawnkula11b
@Shawnkula11b Жыл бұрын
Does anyone actually look at burrows stats in the playoffs ? Allen has way better playoff stats again with less talent but he ride his defense to a SB now he’s the second best ?
@antwonewhite7622
@antwonewhite7622 Жыл бұрын
cuzz talm bout its da defense fault but herbert literally threw 4 picks…
@CompDodgerGO
@CompDodgerGO Жыл бұрын
Defense forced 4 turnovers stop blaming the defense if Herbert did 1 to 2 drives in the second half they win
@82TheGrouch
@82TheGrouch Жыл бұрын
If HERBERT had the Bengals or Eagles defense he’d have playoff win. Burrow didn’t even score a TD in his first playoff win.
@billyclyde768
@billyclyde768 Жыл бұрын
Make up your mind Media Analysis if y'all going to criticize QB pay then, criticize across the board... why did y'all criticize Lamar Jackson again... 🤔 because he got hurt or held out games because he didn't have a deal with a average offensive line🤔 or he's not a pocket passer🤔... or he's not a typical QB.... Excuses,excuses,excuses or.... 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
@javongreen734
@javongreen734 Жыл бұрын
Caleb contact is going to be 400 million lmao
@sflxn
@sflxn Жыл бұрын
Chargers need to get rid of the head coach. A defensive coach that can't coach a good defense.
@hdrogers2909
@hdrogers2909 Жыл бұрын
I guess stats dont matter to Joy. His numbers have declined his first 3 years. Albeit one of the best first 3 years for a QB stats wise......the stats were off the charts in year one. Drop in year two. And year 3 was his worst. So, sorry Joy, he has not got better every year. In this instance.....you got the bag to be on this show, now you need to perform like it.
@darrengordon-hill
@darrengordon-hill Жыл бұрын
Stats lie. You call it "decline"... but didn't mention WINS. For all I know, year 1 is "garbage time stats when trailing", while year 3 is "efficient playoff team".. Throw 2TDs and lose 17-14... Throw 1TD and win 7-0... Which is the better game? Sure, in one game he "threw more TDs"... but maybe he had more yards in the win... there's so much left unmentioned...
@darrengordon-hill
@darrengordon-hill Жыл бұрын
Like, what if you get better teammates, so don't have as much individual pressure to score, as your team improves? NBA: 30ppg 20 win KD or 27ppg FMVP KD?
@raptoryoppey7277
@raptoryoppey7277 Жыл бұрын
What are u taking about year 2 was his best year by far so his stats didn’t decline and year 3 if u maybe watched the games his ribs were cracked all year he dealt with his Lt and RT in and out of the lineup same with his 2 best wrs and play calling was horrible and one of the worst run games in the league and a defense allowing 24 plus points a game
@Oxilus_B
@Oxilus_B Жыл бұрын
This is how you know TJ is a Herbert fanboy. How can you and sit there and blame the defense for that playoff loss when the chargers defense forced 4 turnovers putting the chargers in great field position. Why don't you mention Herbert only having ONE passing TD the whole game on 45 passing attempts but lets continue to deflect and blame the OC and HC 😂
@hitmanl520
@hitmanl520 Жыл бұрын
I hate it that they use stats like that to make it seem like he was so amazing. Most in the first 3 years ever! He play two seasons of 17 games. The seasons are longer than ever before. He lost at home to Jimmy G. He barely made playoffs, and I don’t want to hear the injury excuses. Great qbs make other players better. He chokes and in no way should be getting that much money. They talk about all those failed 4th downs from two seasons ago… maybe they wouldn’t have to go for it so much if the kid could move the chains
@realmtreader6566
@realmtreader6566 Жыл бұрын
cry cry cry
@eliasnicholson
@eliasnicholson Жыл бұрын
As a Chiefs fan I love seeing overhyped Justin Herbert break the bank. So the only crying will be the fans when he misses the playoffs next year 😂
@allpraisestoyah5033
@allpraisestoyah5033 Жыл бұрын
@@eliasnicholsondo people even go go chargers game? I know opponents show up in LA for those games
@hitmanl520
@hitmanl520 Жыл бұрын
@@realmtreader6566 lose lose lose…. Again
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