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@johnnyjohnsonmusic Жыл бұрын
It was the secret song that swayed me.
@dibutler9151 Жыл бұрын
In 1978 I was fortunate as a very underage teen that got to see The Sex Pistols in America at one of their only 6 shows, ever. Sid Vicious had carved Gimme a Fix into his chest, people were throwing glass bottles at the band and the band was throwing them back. The band was cursing everyone, Vicious was so messed up he was lying down for a significant part of the show, and despite the fact that I was fortunate to see/attend TONS of bands/shows from the late 70s into the 90s, this is my one favorite show memory. I saw KISS, The Dead Kennedys, DEVO, The Cars, The Clash, Tom Petty, Rod Stewart, Queen, Joan Jett, Motley Crue, Van Halen, The Police, Def Leppard, Poison, Duran Duran, you name it, tickets were cheap back then and shows were awesome. I do think this mentality of today killed rock, this soft, always censored, always offended mindset of fake kindness and do gooderism. As a grandma of 8 now, I looooooooathe it beyond words. I'm doing my best to teach my grandkids what real kindness and morality is about and how to separate art from reality. Because that's real "wokeness."
@margaritaguzman2658 Жыл бұрын
I'd Thee proffer libation of thy choice on a Violet flower petal. Bromeo, i'd buy you a non alcoholic beverage of your choice. Swiggs Away, Maestro!
@SandraT1107 Жыл бұрын
Always a sucker for a secret(ish) song lol 😂
@CharlesGorrie Жыл бұрын
I’m in
@rayhartman9486 Жыл бұрын
From now on I'm just leaving my shirt unbuttoned all the time.
@stevenfunderburg1623 Жыл бұрын
You think you can rock a Justin/Cornell ?!!!
@d33j4ybf Жыл бұрын
I've no shirts in my possession which do button, so... Mission accomplished on my end; no fuss - no muss.
@stevenfunderburg1623 Жыл бұрын
@@d33j4ybf 😂😂🤣🤣🤘🤘🤘🤘
@667neighbourofthebeast Жыл бұрын
Unzipped for me.
@ZuzuTheLemon Жыл бұрын
I'd have someone's eye out.
@almogrocks796 Жыл бұрын
I don't think this lifestyle has gone out of style, it switched genres. If you look at alot of rappers and famous hip hop artists are very much famous for their "rockstar" lifestyle and ,of course their music. But the lifestyle hasn't ended nor changed, it just moved.
@roywilkinson2078 Жыл бұрын
^ This
@tatemcilwain1775 Жыл бұрын
this is true
@pandap4ntz Жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same.
@gaveeno Жыл бұрын
I was about to write the exact same thing. Looking at UK grime, it's just moved. Being wasted and celebrating toxic male attitudes is the norm there
@xXNitemareXx Жыл бұрын
@grimble6261 omg, heroin and pills/pills+alcohol are nothing to encourage using either! Hell, I wouldn't even encourage coke or meth these days because even THOSE are being cut with fentanyl. Easier to get and cheaper to cut with, plus it's super addictive, so guaranteed return customers if they don't end up dead first. I'd add in crack for the same reason, but I don't think that shits been around for a while now. Definitely not like it was. I'm so terrified of just partying one time now because it could kill me and my adult children don't even want to experiment with anything other than weed or psychedelics like psilocybin, LSD, DMT, ketamine because they've seen one too many classmates and their favorite musicians accidentally die off of just one Xanax pill laced with fentanyl. A 14 year old girl at our local high school took what she thought was a Xanax from her boyfriends stash and dropped dead within minutes. No thank you! One night of debauchery is not worth the risk, so I'm afraid these kids won't be leaving their computers anytime soon and I'm not accepting a rail from NOBODY.😂
@Reid_Jorgensen Жыл бұрын
Justin's look is on point today...hair, shirt, stubble length...rock 'n roll! 🤘
@Nick.Webster Жыл бұрын
“That stuff” from the 60s-90s would also have been toned down if everyone had a camera on their phone and social media accounts.
@michaelyahn3125 Жыл бұрын
Bingo!
@JayJay-xd5lm Жыл бұрын
Bingo ! ( twice ) .
@harveywood203 Жыл бұрын
Bingo! (Thrice!)
@vincentstandley2834 Жыл бұрын
Yeah I agree. The world changed when cameras went on to phones.
@rwhiteslem1 Жыл бұрын
They would've told them to fu ck off
@oliverjameshall2288 Жыл бұрын
There's a book by Ian Winwood, called bodies. It's talks about the changes in the supposed lifestyle. He talks about the fact that artists aren't earning anywhere near the amounts of money you need to live the lifestyle. Worth a read.
@halwake332111 ай бұрын
@@mezzb My problem with your maths is that it's assuming that 25 million streams is harder to acquire than 100k record sales. I think most modern artists would agree that it's easier to get 25 million streams than 100k sales. You can stream a song 100 times but most people aren't buying an album twice. However I guess you could argue that the streams is a slower trickle of money and thus doesn't allow the 'get rich quick, blow all the money on drugs' as much.
@crazycatladyjay Жыл бұрын
Thanks! I have lost too many "local" musician friends to addiction. The hotel room parties were insane, but i have also hung out with many "professional" musicians backstage who didn't drink or party at all. In the later 80s in the US, it was becoming apparent to all of us that the drinking and drugs were taking a toll on the music, and some started to make a conscious effort to stop. Queensryche and Apocalyptica didn't have alcohol backstage at all. I have my own rule that if I am with someone who doesn't drink, I don't either. It is hard enough for them, and I don't want to make it any harder.
@Junkhead91 Жыл бұрын
Who?
@crazycatladyjay Жыл бұрын
@@Junkhead91 Who have I lost?
@jimmcdougall9973 Жыл бұрын
I think the one reason we don’t see this lifestyle amongst the “well known” musicians anymore, is that far too many musicians, starting out, paying their so called dues, are already trying to live the life of rock stars and burning out, or splitting up, long before they’ve made it.
@mikethebloodthirsty Жыл бұрын
The fact there's no money in music is the main factor we don't see it as much.
@jimmcdougall9973 Жыл бұрын
@@mikethebloodthirsty I suppose that would depend on where you are based and the type of market you cater for. Where I am, a band willing to do parties and weddings etc, on the side, can make a very comfortable living and still pursue a recording career, in the hopes of “breaking through and making it”. So talent is more a factor than money.
@ryanwallace4686 Жыл бұрын
I've played drums for 30 years across too many bands across 100's perhaps 1000's of shows. I was always the guy with a drink and a cigarette at all times before during and after a show. my alcohol tolerance got the the point that 5 beers preshow did nothing but make me have to piss 1/2 way through the 3rd set. I still drink, but never live anymore and TBH after a while, playing sober made me realize just how much fun playing music sober is. I'm way more in the moment and thankful for it. Especially when you're playing onstage with absolute killer players, an amazing stage, and a next level sound tech. Thank you for your insight on the matter Justin. Best channel on the interwebs.
@Briandnlo4 Жыл бұрын
There's just no place for it out there anymore. The cost of everything related to touring is SO sky high right now, that the bands are already heavily invested, exposed with a lot at risk, with little promise of even a modest payoff. Even one cancellation can put a tour in the red. You can't have anyone in the van with you whose conduct could cost you a gig, either through self-destructive behavior, or because they're still in the last town speaking to the police about some aspect of their conduct. Bail money is NOT in the tour budget.
@RockStarMichael Жыл бұрын
You can be clean, sober and responsible and still be a Rockstar. Rock and Roll ISNT about drinking, drugging, having sex, or staying out all night... in fact, Rock and Roll is nothing more than an attitude. If you have the attitude, none of the other things matter. Just because you don't have any bad habits doesn't mean you aren't dangerous.
@danebrackvitch4901 Жыл бұрын
I thought rock n roll was about the music. They say the same thing about punk and grunge: it's an attitude. Then that means I can be a country-bluegrass band but have the right attitude then I'm rock n roll? ridiculous.
@SquidgyPickle Жыл бұрын
@@danebrackvitch4901couldn’t agree more. I like multiple genres… what kind of attitude do I need??
@lowie9783 Жыл бұрын
@@danebrackvitch4901 grunge is definetly more of an attitude than it is a genre. Just listen to 'Something in the way' and 'Floyd The Barber' two songs from the same band in the same genre, yet the songs shouldnt even be in the same genre.
@octane8mil Жыл бұрын
Yeah it’s an attitude but those drinks and drugs are a lot of fun.. in the moment We just can’t afford it. And I want to drink and do drugs if it’s my choice
Growing up in the 70s, the drug scene as a part of the whole rock and roll lifestyle for rock stars and fans alike. It was all about partying and having fun and most of us never saw the ugly side of it. I think these days every single person has in some way experienced addiction first hand. Either they experienced it themselves, or saw a loved one go through it. There's nothing cool about addiction, and musicians on drugs aren't seen as "cool" any more, they are seen as addicts who need help. Also, thats an interesting take on how music has flipped from revenue coming mostly from touring. I'd never considered that. I guess that explains why ticket prices are so high. When I was a teen in the late 70s, most tickets were around $7. Even at a minimum wage job. I could afford tickets for two hours of work. These days, the same ticket would be at least $100, which means at min. wage it would take about 15 hours of work. Ouch!
@DirtyDirkDiggler Жыл бұрын
This is a random but mind-blowing fact: the average Taylor Swift resale ticket goes for about $3,800 🤔 🤷♂️
@captainfeedback1 Жыл бұрын
Well, since nobody under about 40 seems to think they have to pay the artist for their recorded output anymore, what else did you expect?!
@eliseintheattic9697 Жыл бұрын
@@aldercones What financial and societal meltdown?
@JoeBaermann3 ай бұрын
$100 for which kind of tickets and bands? Plenty of $10-70 tickets to see everything from underground to mainstream, $100 and up sounds more in the lines of VIP placement, stadium size or festival. And when the prices go all crazy it’s pure scalping.
@LindaAcd65 Жыл бұрын
Interesting commentary. I was just having a discussion with a friend who is a musician. I am a former dancer and back in the day I would be on tours where people were literally throwing drugs at me. Fortunately, that was not my weakness and I’ve endured and live a healthy life. However, for people that continue to live their lives the same way, very sad. You grow up and life changes, hopefully. I am happy to see the vast improvements you seem to make with your life. You look amazing. Stay true to yourself and happy for your girl. Salute!
@cynthiaking5308 Жыл бұрын
I just saw the Goo Goo Dolls. The lead singer has been four years sober and quit smoking to preserve his voice. Sooner or later you have to grow up, I guess. The show was fantastic. Remember when Metallica was known as Alcohalica? Those guys are hitting 60.
@intharthsnowfaller9376 Жыл бұрын
I think one of the biggest examples (of my experience with rock and metal bands) is Slipknot, Their early days was filled with the typical rock and roll stories but now you have Corey Taylor speaking out about his turn around, they fired Joey at one point for his continuous self-abuse, they lost paul which was a real turning point for the band, and to my knowledge modern day Slipknot is an entirely different band compared to what the OGs may have considered "Rock and Roll lifestyle" - this is just my opinion based on 20 years of listening to slipknot but i think it holds some weight in this kind of conversation
@witch_haunts_ghost Жыл бұрын
This was such a great video, Justin! I love your statement about AI not being able to replace live music. I personally love how there is a wave of sobriety in the music industry these days. As a recovering addict myself, I find it to be supportive and inclusive to see people go through what I've been through and come out the oher side AND still be creative and powerhouse musos, like yourself! It used to be a rarity to have sober musicians, now it's more the norm and I love it. I've joined the mailing list. Please, do bombard! I'm looking forward to the long-form podcast....Happy days, Justin!
@shanewoolsey940 Жыл бұрын
We worked hard for over a year in the rehearsal space to get our songs just right. Our first few shows impressed the crowds we played for. However our lead guitar player decided to get drunk for every other show and made us all look fools. In front of some industry too.
@peskypesky Жыл бұрын
😔
@MiguelPaulettePerez-bj8ml Жыл бұрын
You hired the dude.
@markleier672 Жыл бұрын
I believe in a Hawkins called Justin.
@shiftybat7318 Жыл бұрын
This is why Guided By Voices is one of the all-time rock giants in my book - they know how (and when) to party hard. I saw them empty a large beach cooler full of beer and tequila (which they generously shared with the front row) and halfway through the set a roadie came out to remove said cooler, then REPLACED IT. But that wasn't their lives or even their personas; they just like to have fun, like every show is a party we were all invited to, then they go home to their teaching jobs and families and what have you. They lay it all out on the stage, and it remains on the stage. The missus and I met this band the Darkness once, too. They seemed pretty cool. They endanger themselves in Different ways, like scaling the bar balcony at the Paradise and scaring the staff.
@morrisalanisette9067 Жыл бұрын
Isn't the guy in this video from the band the darkness
@versecycle Жыл бұрын
I'm a touring cycling poet, and think touring is rock n roll without sex, drugs, and booze. It's an alternative bohemian lifestyle, the opposite of mainstream. As a lifestyle it's not an easy gig, it's exhausting uprooting, and lacking in security, but it's a labour of love and a choice! Troubadours are rock n roll! X
@surfdanang Жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this. It brought to mind the transformation of Axl Rose from tardy, volatile rocker to someone who now appears to treat his privileged position with the respectfulness it deserves ie showing up on time, gestures of warmth to bandmates and fans. Or, that might just come with growing old...
@TVindustries5000 Жыл бұрын
all it does is kill people off way too soon. I mean just look at the 27 club. im 29 and it feels like im barely starting to figure stuff out. Justin and many others are lucky to have survived addictions before they slipped up and made a life costing mistake.
@funlittlefish Жыл бұрын
It's wild how the rock n roll lifestyle has done a 180. Major labels kicking the bucket played a role - suddenly, artists are the captains of their own ships. Rock ain't dead; it just had a makeover. I just wish we could have another genuine rock movement like we had with Nirvana or The Beatles. Even in the early 2000's we had The Strokes, White Stripes etc. The most genuine contender for the next wave of good rock music for me is a band from New Zealand called The Doublejumps. I'd highly recommend checking them out. They're all about the DIY, which seems to me like the logical path forward in rock music today.
@ignazioacerenza9881 Жыл бұрын
Lol the plugs are getting more creative! Go Doublejumps!
@kyles5513 Жыл бұрын
King Gizzard And The Lizard Wizard.
@federicobattistetti3108 Жыл бұрын
The Beatles?! They were pop, for sure not rock. Rolling Sones were rock
@ignazioacerenza9881 Жыл бұрын
@@federicobattistetti3108 You're telling me the band that made helter skelter isn't rock? Go see a doctor asap you might have something wrong with your temporal lobe.
@rwhiteslem1 Жыл бұрын
Hilarious. A band that imitates how we grew up This seems like the mass imitation era of all our Cultures ? Also Literally playing dress up how we grew up ?
@barnaclefelching4079 Жыл бұрын
Hedonism is a great way to spend a few years. But ultimately is going to pull your trousers down eventually, you just gotta hope it doesnt happen in public
@woahblackbettybamalam Жыл бұрын
Just dont do it to begin with. Nothing better than self discipline
@Appetite4Rose Жыл бұрын
Such a nice guy… inspirational, honest, straight forward… liking your content quite a lot and will stay tuned for more
@markhoughton4308 Жыл бұрын
You highlighted something that I am not sure anyone has mentioned. The change from Albums bringing the money to bringing in not a lot, to Live shows now bringing in the money... this is one reason why ticket prices are now £100 a show from the £60 a show 5 years ago.
@ifer1280 Жыл бұрын
I think connectivity has killed rock and roll. Touring doesn't take you out of society and away from your loved ones they way it used to - If you misbehave, it's not slow gossip that spreads the news, it's instantly everywhere. And if you're lonely on tour, you don't tell the bottle and the groupies, you video call your friend at home.
@84greenbear Жыл бұрын
Living through the 80's was a cool experience! I just wish I could remember more of it. Partying, loud music was our release from the daily grind. Then you get older and more mature in your thinking and you change. At least that's what I did. Congratulations on your sobriety!
@FlameFlickers Жыл бұрын
One enormous factor that you didn't cover is accountability. The rise of social media and smartphones has meant celebrities behaving badly these days can have their actions uploaded to the web and gone viral before their hangover has even kicked in. And the consequences can end a career in a flash.
@absolutely_senna Жыл бұрын
I agree with you, this was happening some time ago to Cara Delevingne, I hope she has stopped her self-abuse now.
@jac8awol Жыл бұрын
You hit the nail on the head. It's exactly this. Bad behavior or even just accusations blow up and end careers.
@daviemoloney6670 Жыл бұрын
I saw an interview with Slash a little while ago where he pointed this out. Shit that they got away with back in the day couldn't happen today.
@TrojanBus Жыл бұрын
Eh? I thought bad behaviour was the whole point! And all the better if it was heavily publicised. If not, then you're not doing it properly!
@HiGlowie Жыл бұрын
@@TrojanBusthe social landscape changed
@christianstorm8854 Жыл бұрын
As a touring artist I’ve always made the green room/or blue or black lol a private area foe band members and team only. It’s easy to get caught up in the drugs and woman but the reason that you became an artist, if that was music then the music suffers and if you got into music for drugs and alcohol and women then again the music suffers. It’s an honor and a privilege to be able to share your art with the world, and someday we Will be weighed and measured under a microscope, why give them anything to write about when it’s your story? Create the world you want to live in and be viewed in.
@johnnyjohnsonmusic Жыл бұрын
It might be uncool, possibly even have elements of illegality, might even be unhealthy, but it's a hell of a lot of fun. *disclaimer and advice* Stay in school kids. Don't do drugs, smell it before you taste it, pulling out isn't quitting, and always carry bail money.
@marcushorne7504 Жыл бұрын
Just joined thanks for your time and effort really enjoy your chats
@ZuzuTheLemon Жыл бұрын
'Ere Justin, speaking of your delightful ramblings and rock n roll stories, when's this book of yours coming out? ...Not that I'm one of of those unhinged people who start buying Xmas presents in August or anything.
@lorichaslot7601 Жыл бұрын
I’d rather have my music heroes healthy, clean, sober, and respecting themselves. We’ve lost far too many brilliant artists far too soon.
@worksbydandeprez Жыл бұрын
Back in the '80's I came up with the "Keith Richards Theory" which is that audiences want a proxy; someone who will do all the transgressive things they wish they could do but are too sensible to try. They are the culture's "Judas Goat," and we cheer them on so that we don't have to abuse our bodies and ruin lives. As a performer during the '80's I thought it was part of my job to act as this kind of proxy and it almost killed me.
@julieh326 Жыл бұрын
In the same vein I've been watching Michael Crawford as Frank Spencer for catharsis, since I fail fail fail at fifty and female
@macleadg Жыл бұрын
Well, yeah. We live vicariously through them.
@UltimoDogLover Жыл бұрын
Seems right.
@M2Mil7er Жыл бұрын
Yeah, that's always been the case. I'm not sure you created this theory as much as realised it too. It's an age old phenomenon which has been culturally inculcated. For performers themselves, there has always been the romanticized idea of the 'Tortured Genius' that has in almost all cases an inbuilt proclivity for substance abuse, and seen as a route to authenticity, if not necessity. Divergent thinkers have always found normality difficult, and will often self medicate, going back to shamanism, and the myth of Merlin.
@macleadg Жыл бұрын
@@M2Mil7er In simple terms, rock stars party hard.
@PerdixDesignLtd Жыл бұрын
Rock'n'Roll (sort of like being a biker) is a state of mind and you don't need to be out of your skull or crawling with STIs to live it. The audience deserves the best show they can have and for most of us* that means being sober until at least after the show (* theatre, in my case).
@oldboo-urnsy Жыл бұрын
It was always kinda offputting to me, esp how many rockstars from the 70s and 80s molested 14 year olds
@Eoraptor1 Жыл бұрын
Isn't Steven Tyler dealing with a Statutory Story right now? JAMES
@andrewlowery6030 Жыл бұрын
And we now have the likes of MGK who somehow still thinks that part of rock n roll was to be admired!! And I’m suprised that there wasn’t more people pulled him up on it.
@tessiepinkman Жыл бұрын
14 year olds and even YOUNGER girls became part of their "entourage". It's insane. It was weird back then, but people just wrote it off as part of the "lifestyle". If any ordinary person had done the same there would have been backlash, but not as severe as today of course. I think it's gross. I know my parents, who were in the scene back then but a little older (in the beginning of their 20's) also thought it was really fucking gross, since they both worked with children and teenagers who's been molested. So they always saw black if an artist they loved did shit like that. They just stopped buying their records and going to their concerts. More people should have realized that fucking 13-14 year olds is *not* normal, no matter what, but even more so in a "relationship" where one have *SO* much power over the kid as their literal idol would have.
@tracyopera5401 Жыл бұрын
@@tessiepinkman sad, disgusting, and abusive. It was all about power over an individual and what they could get away with. Pedophile grooming.
@FlameFlickers Жыл бұрын
@@tessiepinkman I think it was considered a grey area at the time. On the one hand, there were cases of clergy and others who abused minors they had access to and they were rightfully condemned. The perceived difference when it came to rock stars was that it was the minors who were actively doing the pursuing, blowing bouncers to get backstage etc. and then offering themselves on a plate to the rock stars. Plus I think there was a sort of consensus at the time that people just expected every kind of excess and illegal activity when it came to rock stars. It was almost encouraged. I remember in the 1980's reading in newspapers about Bill Wyman from the Rolling Stones and his then girlfriend Mandy Smith. They first got together when he was 47 and she was 13. The tone of the articles was that it was certainly weird but, having said that, he wasn't arrested or anything.
@jmurray2018 Жыл бұрын
I always love it when you rock the Brandon Boyd look
@coachparty61 Жыл бұрын
Big love ❤️❤️❤️❤️ thanks for mentioning us!
@samvimes5124 Жыл бұрын
One of my work colleagues who's 63, said to me recently: "It's getting hard for me to go and see any of the bands of my era, because all the musicians of that age are reaching the end of their lives." I'm 51, and my reply was: "You think you've got it tough? My era was grunge." As darkly humourous as that might sound, it was a real exchange. On a personal note, I was the lead singer of a "grunge" band back in the early/mid 90s. One of our roadies died in a drink driving incident in '95, our lead guitarist died from alcohol related health issues in '00, my wife died from progressive brain damage probably caused by class A use in '01, our manager died in '03 from class A related heart problems, and finally in '20 our drummer died from drug related health complications. In the case of my wife, our manager, and our drummer, they had all quit partying years before they died, but complications from their partying days compromised their health from then on. The truth is, there certainly would've been a lot more rock'n'roll in my life without all of those deaths.
@m-funkshun Жыл бұрын
A tragic story. Thank you for sharing. Additional tragedy from Gen X... the number of shining lights from that era gone WAY before their time... Hillel Slovak, Chris Cornell, Layne, Kurt, ad nauseam...
@domperignon778 Жыл бұрын
Such an acute analysis of the shift in the industry brought about by tech/talent proliferation/covid. Fascinating to see how even the touring environment is catching up with other workplaces. The gigging rock star seems now to be (by and large) more socially responsible than the politicians!!! 🤣
@samsewall8341 Жыл бұрын
You definitely want to see a great show- some older bands could probably handle partying and playing better than others, but also the whole vibe of concerts have changed. The audience isn't getting so wasted either, so it would be odd if the band was more wasted than the average fan. I have seen the Darkness a bunch of times, and they always kill it live, so whatever they're up to is working for them. They most certainly rock!
@Eoraptor1 Жыл бұрын
With the prices Ticketmaster is charging nowadays they'd better be sober IMHO. JAMES
@Sobek5150 Жыл бұрын
Your hair is on point today Justin. 👌
@kirk-careem Жыл бұрын
Wow, you really hit the nail on the head with the well articulated 'album supports the tour' analogy.
@Nicolasmondragon707 Жыл бұрын
Justin Fucking Hawkins Rides Againnnnn!!! 🎶🎶🎶
@NinStardust Жыл бұрын
🎵 Aaaaaagainnnnn….🎶🎶🎶 🥰
@limbiclove9487 Жыл бұрын
I just finished listening to Leon Russell and Joe Cocker. It was very exquisite music inside the belly of a Rock and Roll live concert.Thankfully the videos live on and so does the music. I think you are correct that rock is an esthetic, a belief system of sorts and being sober doesn't diminish that at all. We have lost too many great musicians to the "myth" of a falsely negatively romanticized genre of music, that Rock had to be about wantoness, when in fact it is descended from Blues and Gospel .
@bscepter Жыл бұрын
Touring the US in an indie band in the 90s, I saw some crazy stuff, as one might imagine. My favorite drink ticket extremes were: A bar in Wichita which told me we could "drink until we think you've had enough" and a bar in NYC that gave us just one drink ticket... for the whole band! The other issue with touring nationally was that we always needed to know when last call was relative to our stage time because if you played early, you might not be tipsy enough to overcome jitters, but if you played later (say in NYC or another big city with all-night bars), you might be too drunk to play well. It was always a balancing act. Good times, though...
@burnacco Жыл бұрын
the point of the album-tour correlation is SO SPOT ON
@riellymorton Жыл бұрын
This is one of my fav videos you’ve put out. Sobering truths in this one. It doesn’t make me happy to hear the state of the music industry right now but to hear it from someone who is at least seemingly on top of their shit (and I deeply adore) is immensely valuable. ❤
@R.senals_Arsenal Жыл бұрын
As someone who has never liked drinking, never touched drugs, part of what kept me from going into music back in the day was to avoid the excesses of R&Roll. I actually had youthful dreams of being a Rock star, but it wasn't to be rich or popular, it was just to avoid riding a desk or some other crap job and living paycheck to paycheck.
@mymodel6 Жыл бұрын
Lol, yeah of course it was, and definitely not a lack of talent...
@mikeg2939 Жыл бұрын
@@mymodel6😂😂
@R.senals_Arsenal Жыл бұрын
@@mymodel6 I'm an ok singer, not near as good as Justin, but I have had much praise heaped upon me for lyrics, that was my real specialty. Oh but wait, your comment was intended to denigrate a stranger, wasn't it? Sorry, should I pretend to be offended so your inner-troll can dance with glee or something? What bother. I'll opt out, tyvm.
@mymodel6 Жыл бұрын
@@R.senals_Arsenal No, my comment was intended to highlight the blatant narcissistic grandiosity of your post...
@R.senals_Arsenal Жыл бұрын
@@mymodel6 No, you were being snarky for sh!tz & giggles. How is admitting to having had dreams that you didn't pursue in any way grandiose? How that enters, or even comes in any way close, to the realm of narcissism is beyond me. If anything it's self deprecating, not aggrandizement.
@christianstorm8854 Жыл бұрын
Just signed up, can’t wait to hear it brother. Working on an album myself, following your career has been an inspiration and watching your stage performance smh amazing. You know how to control a crowd. 👏👏👏👏👏
@DB-bt3cd Жыл бұрын
for me rocknroll means making music from your heart, having fun or channeling and transforming your inner demons and struggles, making and playing music that feeds your spirit... honest music. So, any genre can be pretty rocknroll... gospel, salsa, you name it, it's more about the approach
@mattgilstrap7295 Жыл бұрын
Can you do an episode explaining how musicians get paid on tour? Per gig? Per Week? Per tour etc...
@elleeme9451 Жыл бұрын
When asked why you don't drink/ want a drink, there's a really good response I heard ( because everyone doesn't necessarily want to say "because I'm an alcoholic". That's private). Just say " most people drink in order to be more outgoing or relaxed, but I'm like that naturally. Plus, it's not good for my health". I thought that that was a great response.
@fenderfox5080 Жыл бұрын
I love your aspect on these different subjects Justin, it's always very interesting to listen to you talk and give your opinion on the mattez 😅 🤘
@ericskinner7355 Жыл бұрын
The older one gets, self preservation becomes more of a priority...
@marrrtin Жыл бұрын
I think it's a symptom of increased sobriety in society as a whole. I think the younger generation think alcohol is kind of uncool. It puts you out of control - things get broken people get broken. We are long gone from the days when alcohol was the only anesthetic to hand or whatever. I still drink but a lot less and very rarely. I'm from a family where alcohol is a kind of way of life, such as my uncle being a veteran of the old wet navy that got its rum ration. Even so, all of us have cut down to some degree.
@ladylove3636 Жыл бұрын
And I wonder if immigration has impacted this 😞 x
@musician4776 Жыл бұрын
@@ladylove3636in what way?
@aprilkurtz1589 Жыл бұрын
I lived in LA for a couple of years when I was 19 or so. It was 1978. I went out there with the band I was in. Musically and socially, we were on the periphery of some rock stars. l noticed that other bands were either straight edge, or just total fuck-ups. There weren't that many in the middle. I eventually got(even more)into drugs like everybody else, the only legal one being alcohol. I'm surprised I'm still alive. I partied SO hard. I'm glad it's cleaning up, but I remember those days fondly.
@evedavey2475 Жыл бұрын
You look great today 💛
@Stock--Rosso Жыл бұрын
Paying your dues, doesn’t seem to happen anymore. At one point, almost every rock/metal and many pop bands would tour and gig, night after night and live from hand to mouth, creating bonds that can’t be broken sometimes. The internet seems to have killed that foundation building, plus the infrastructure just isn’t there anymore, the small venues, pubs, clubs and small concert venues have all but disappeared. It was a different time I know, but somehow more visceral, raw and in your face. Great video, pal🤘🏼🤘🏼
@NinStardust Жыл бұрын
I think you’re forgetting that everyone in rock ‘n’ roll now *and* their fans have seen far, far too many of their idols lose or ruin their lives due to the “lifestyle”. None of us want to witness that “live fast, die young” attitude anymore. We want our idols to live long, happy, healthy, fulfilling lifestyles so that they can keep on rocking out until they’re 90! 🤘🥰💖
@ZuzuTheLemon Жыл бұрын
And so we have something decent to listen to in the care home!
@NinStardust Жыл бұрын
@@ZuzuTheLemon 😂 Absolutely! 🤘🎸🥁🤘 Future care homes are going to be *lit*! 😂😂😂 (Side note: I work in residential care for disabled people. We have regular “dad rock” discos, Abba nights, 70’s, 80’s & 90’s nights, there’s disco balls and strobe lighting… honestly, sometimes it’s like walking into a rave! 😂 Staff and clients alike have an absolute blast! 🥰💖) 🦅🤓…💖
@ZuzuTheLemon Жыл бұрын
@@NinStardust that's awesome! 🦅🤓...❤️
@SpaceFairyness Жыл бұрын
@@NinStardust The idea that there will at least be "dad rock" discos in future care home gives me both hope & reassurance😁 💃🏻✨
@phoenixgirl70 Жыл бұрын
@@NinStardustoh that’s one of the happiest things I’ve heard in a while! The outside changes a lot but so many people with their mental faculties intact still feel young and those nights must bring them so much joy! But if I got to that stage I hope they’d have a good mix or different genres. I’d be back in my room if they played Air Supply or Celine Dion when I’d want to hear Depeche Mode or the Cure😅.
@godzillamoraga Жыл бұрын
Dear sir I just wanted to say I've been watching your videos for a while now and wanted to say thank you. I have enjoyed your content way more than I expected and look forward to the newest uploads. Congratulations on your sobriety and success. Sincerely, Hooligan
@matthewgreen678 Жыл бұрын
Changing times for everyone. I was one who drank and did crazy things but as I look back. It was a great time and experience that I had to stop because of my health. I feel somewhat better now that I don't party like that anymore but I miss playing out. I'm still play guitar everyday and I'm so much better now than ever since I've stopped the madness and got focused on music. Thank you so much for your time.
@chepbcreate Жыл бұрын
Hi Justin. This'll probably get buried, but on the off chance that you do read this, I just want to say thank you. I've been off drinking and smoking for 5 months and counting at the time of writing this, and I just want to say that speaking about your experience and watching your sobriety continue has helped me motivate myself to stay sober, and many, many others too. You've also added to my deep love for music and drive to create. Keep it up. And again, thank you.
@phrymcdunstan Жыл бұрын
To me Rock N Roll has always been about counter culture. And nowadays where even pop stars do the sex and drugs thing and often behave in stupid ways, Rock should be more than that. I think modern Rock should be rebellious by being intelligent, introspective and progressive cause these tropes are currently not celebrated in mainstream music.
@TheStobb50 Жыл бұрын
A friend of mine quite a few years ago worked in local radio, she was excited on this day because they had Keith Richards coming in as expected, he came rolling in looking rather drunk as he staggered around the room, and staggered to his chair, flipped open his Jack Daniel‘s, and took a big swallow did the interview all went brilliant then he stood up, staggered out of the room, she realised he had left his bottle and couldn’t resist a drink. The bottle was full of cold tea. she looked out of the window when she looked out the window, she saw him walking away, straight and sober. It was all an act.
@bobpurcell7175 Жыл бұрын
I saw Eddie Van Halen slam what was purported to be a fifth of Jack Daniels on stage in '81. Then continued to play like... Eddie Van Halen. At sixteen I had just enough experience with Mr. Jack to detect there was some 'musical theater' afoot... it's all good until your young fans attempt this at home & can't be resuscitated 🤷
@jamescarter3196 Жыл бұрын
@@bobpurcell7175 Either that or his alcohol tolerance and cocaine intake were enough to stave off problems until later. I've known a lot of people who drink-and-snort their way into having active blackouts, where they're still going on autopilot for hours but don't remember a damn thing about it later. If you've got 'handlers' taking care of you, it's a lot easier to go ahead and do that without, you know, getting in a car accident or something. But I didn't drink off his bottle, so it totally could have been Lipton.
@bobpurcell7175 Жыл бұрын
@@jamescarter3196 I can't prove a thing, but if that was bottle was full of Jack, I've never seen a guitarist soldier through anywhere near that much alcohol with NO apparent effect on his playing... though it's been awhile and I was a bit 🤪 myself that night.
@johnnyrandom100 Жыл бұрын
if I were a rock star I would be dead, proberbly good job I'm just a welder.
@arthurmurfitt7698 Жыл бұрын
You can have your “rock ‘n’ roll lifestyle.” I never made any good decisions when I was on alcohol/drugs.
@rainbowlove1967 Жыл бұрын
We need the Majesty of Rock and the Fantasy of Roll ( thank you Spinal Tap) now more than ever Amen 🙏
@hotrodjones74 Жыл бұрын
Excellent analysis and observations! I'm not into the wild party aspect of the rock scene. No drugs and more than a couple of beers is too much IMHO. These are my thoughts a garage band rocker myself 🎸🤘
@cameronhall4593 Жыл бұрын
The showman element of rock n roll will never die but I’m glad the negative harm people used to do to themselves it’s more about being on top of your game and that cane be done addicted to a substance be it alcohol or drugs, Keep the positive vibes 🎸⚡️🙏
@trufflehuffer Жыл бұрын
I’m sure the debauchery will return; but the behaviours of bands/artists certainly inform my engagement with their music. E.g., if they exhibit toxic masculinity, racism, ageism = I’m not interested in them or their ‘product’.
@donnamoon8769 Жыл бұрын
Rush is one of my favorite bands. They stayed clear of excessive partying and nonsense. It got old watching rock stars get more weird as time went on. It was painful and obvious watching Kirk Cobain and Chester Bennington and others spiral downward and looking miserable. No one steps up to intervene. Hip Hop has lost so many artists because they went the heroin and various drugs route. It's a death sentence.
@Junkhead91 Жыл бұрын
I honestly can’t think of even one hip hop artist that has died from heroin. Also, Chester Bennington didn’t die from anything even remotely related to substance abuse.
@pureamoursoul Жыл бұрын
@@Junkhead91You're right that Chester Bennington didn't die from substance abuse, but I believe the substance abuse he experienced over the years was one of the things that lead him down a dark path, as well as past tramas. Hip hop artists that have died over the last few years from drug overdose include Coolio, Mac Miller, Lil Peep, Juice World - from fentanyl, cocaine, heroin, prescription drugs, alcohol.
@Junkhead91 Жыл бұрын
@@pureamoursoul yeah they all died of accidental fentanyl overdoses. Nothing to do with cocaine or heroin. Chester offed himself after one of his best friends and mentors (Chris Cornell) killed himself. Literally nothing to do with drugs of any kind.
@donnamoon8769 Жыл бұрын
@@pureamoursoul Thank you. Know-it-all's drive me crazy. I said Heroin and various drugs plus opioids is a form of heroin. My whole point was we have lost numerous artists to drugs and alcohol related deaths. Drug use leads to depression. Even though a person can become clean, the brain chemistry changes them permanently. Thanks for clarification. I don't even respond to many posts anymore because there is always someone who wants to argue or disagree even when proof is right at their finger tips.
@scottblack9213 Жыл бұрын
Alex lifeson was a functional alcoholic until 1992 and they smoked more weed than Snoop Dogg.
@clairepickin5928 Жыл бұрын
I love getting your take on things Justin - always well thought out, well articulated and honest. I'm glad you and Jenny will be doing another podcast soon - love those!
@kevleppard9119 Жыл бұрын
Great points , when we go out playing music comes first, we don't get hammered , but it can help to scale down keepin it cheap & simple, I hope bands will adapt & keep playing but times are crap , the rock I do with Dan or Gary I dub ( for a giggle) armaggedon rock! How about klaus schwaaaaarb & the creeps for a band ? (When I'm doing the rock band it's called Haven) Dan is acting like Vim in bad news @ the moment we can't get hold of him because he's been put on the wrong meds& is scared of talking to people on the phone, he is so talented& huge Queen fan! 🙏🎸 🍀☘️🐆❤️🔥🐿keep your self alive,
@TheNavarro6767 Жыл бұрын
I'm seeing Alter Bridge tomorrow night... and I am so looking forward to it because I know they take their playing seriously. Great musicianship all around, so I don't mind forking 140-ish dollars.
@johnyoung8745 Жыл бұрын
Love Alter Bridge. Those guys are awesome musicians but also only exist as a band because Scott Stapp’s addictions destroyed Creed so they learned the hard way the importance of sobriety. Mark seems to use music as his escape always writing new stuff for tons of projects. Brian had to fight to get sober and was kicked out of creed back in the day but now has found fitness to stay focused. Myles has very sensitive voice and gets sick easily and said he has to eat and drink healthy or he can’t sing well.
@cacophonic7 Жыл бұрын
Almost 500K subs… you had a good run man. Wishing you all the best in the future!
@Wrecktoid Жыл бұрын
Rock and Roll is in your heart, brain and soul!
@NikkiBhoy Жыл бұрын
Hey Justin I subscribed to your channel about a month ago and am pleasantly surprised. Your so articulate and good at explaining in layman's terms. Keep it up your a great podcast and such a nice guy even when reading nasty comments finding some good in them. Justin for P.M.🎉
@Ruinwyn Жыл бұрын
I think one big factor is that there are fewer NEW big acts in general. The older acts are still going, but only if they have learned to stay sober enough. That gives the few never acts better example on how to maintain a career. On rap side, there are new stars, but they are still dropping like flys as casualties of the lifestyle.
@NitroModelsAndComics Жыл бұрын
I played in cover and original band throughout the 80's and 90's so I know what it means when you say R&R lifestyle. I am glad for its end for me personally. I couldn't maintain it and survive such as it was. But while I was in the middle of it all it was Glorious! Girls, booze and other libations were plentiful. And while I never got to your level Justin, I loved it on a perhaps smaller scale, but lived it all the same. I feel a little bad for the guys coming up as they missed out on the way it was For my part, it was one hell of a ride...
@Valsveryown Жыл бұрын
The band Cake covers this topic in this song Rock and Roll lifestyle: "Excess ain't rebellion You're drinkin' what they're selling now Your self-destruction doesn't hurt them Your chaos won't convert them They're so happy to rebuild it You'll never really kill it"
@RosieHarp Жыл бұрын
There are very few real 'rock stars' in the younger bands anymore so I'm not sure the lifestyle debate is still pertinent?
@pmc1649 Жыл бұрын
I think not drinking is truly rock n roll, having the nerve and ability to do that in this crazy world is deeply impressive...
@yusufamir3010 Жыл бұрын
This is why rock is dead lmao. No fun. Just a bunch of oldheads talking about sobriety
@briancolvin2197 Жыл бұрын
The "Rock n Roll Lifestyle" has taken way too many of our favorite artists and their fans alike before their time. I have seen shows (luckily it was only a handful, going back to the excesses of 80's hair bands) over the years where someone enbibed a bit too much and it was a disappointment because they could not perform, forgot words, etc. If it's over, then it may be a good thing for those on both sides of the stage.
@sophiebowns Жыл бұрын
Justin, I’m loving the longer hair! 🩷
@DemianHutsell-rp3lp Жыл бұрын
There you go, my dude, consider us signed up
@robertleslie8746 Жыл бұрын
I need Justin to start narrating audiobooks.
@harmonic3350 Жыл бұрын
All true. The audience deserves a good show as well as the artists. Its a shared experience. And orchestra players on tour shouldnt get too crazy either. 🎻
@jeremythornton433 Жыл бұрын
Coming from a 68 year old musician, yeah, I used to party like a mad idiot. But that was when I could 35 years ago. Touring with Killer Bee in the 90's, we were known as a hard drinking party band. These days though, nope. Just can't do it anymore and still perform at a pro level.
@fredhale5784 Жыл бұрын
A great subject and reflection Justin...I am one of those people who has spent most of my 'adult' life in rock bands....and I'm still at it...but never reaching a level of commercial success that maybe used to bring excess and dubious 'hangers on' that fame seemed to attract.... but I still get to spend time on tour and at festivals with lots of other band members, artists and crew... I totally agree that to be doing this is a privilege and that you really need to deliver as good a performance as you can to for the amazing people who still shell out their hard earned and give up their time to come out to see you perform... and we all want to do your music justice too...and not let our bandmates and venues down....I expect we have all seen a few car crashes in our time and it's never pretty.... and they tend to disappear quite quickly from the scene...but I still see people partying respectfully on the circuit.... after the show that is.... I think spending hours in vans and living out of a suitcase still lends itself to a bit of an unwind.... life on the road is 90% doing almost nothing and 10% adrenaline rush.... and you get to spend a lot of time 'waiting around' with little to do. Most of us still like a bit of an after party when we can manage it .... but I rarely see anything torrid going on .... and I never really did back in the old days at my level.... we enjoy having a beer or two with other artists and most of the bands we see out and about still seem to like a bit of a party... its generally nothing sinister or to excess though... but whenever you get a group of people doing something that is as odd as being in a touring band... I think their is the inevitability that a bit of Rock'n'Roll type stuff will still go on.
@kevinherlink.m5491 Жыл бұрын
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@Ztandard32 Жыл бұрын
I am very grateful that you talk about this in an open and honest way. Nice one.
@MusicTheoryLogic Жыл бұрын
I think one huge difference in the entertainment industry in general, is that the internet opened the gates in terms of people making content. This has led to the rise of entrepreneur artists... the most successful of which built podcasts, or youtube channels, or harnessed social media to reach an audience. Live is still crucial for the money side of the industry, but it isn't the place of discovery anymore. Meaning in recent years, most new big artists use the internet to get an audience- then take a live show through the areas with supporters. I believe that in the case of newer most music artists , record labels function like investment banks. The artist entrepreneur builds a business, then a label can offer all sorts of services and capital to help grow that business. I think the above situation makes it so that musicians have their act together.
@Pugwash. Жыл бұрын
I've been a long time fan of ELO, and can't imagine any of them passing pop or smoke between strokes of the strings. Jeff Lynne seemed full of faculties when I saw him live a few years ago.
@ladylove3636 Жыл бұрын
Oh yeah he's just anally obsessive about sound production. Fitting he now works with Mike Stevens. That is what you are going to get at a quality show now, high end music production, George Michael was the same. Tho of course he went off the rails after x
@jamescarter3196 Жыл бұрын
You're not reflecting on them, you're only talking about what you can 'imagine', and it solely reflects that you really have no insight as to anything they do aside from play music in studios and onstage. You seem to be one of those people who imagines 'any amount of Drugs-Which-Are-Bad makes people crazy and unable to perform scripted music' which is a hilariously-naive take on the subject. You're not diagnosing anyone's habits from how they 'seem' onstage, and I'd love to know why exactly Jeff Lynne has had sunglasses glued to his face for like 45 years. Must be because his eyes are so clear! Lol.
@stephensim5839 Жыл бұрын
Amy Winehouse shocked me, I couldn't understand why she had no minder. I was 9000miles away from her in Aus, and I could see she was at risk, everyone new she was at risk, why no minder? All she needed was someone to put her on her side in coma position when she passed out. If the rock n roll lifestyle is dead I'm glad of it. So many talented people gone. There is a big difference between having fun and having a mental illness that you are propping up with booze and other consumables.
@glenh2752 Жыл бұрын
I thought she did have a minder. Worth watching the documentary again.
@frankenfurter58 Жыл бұрын
If you dig deep enough, there's industry whistleblowers out there that tell disturbing accounts of how the industry itself encourages the drug/alcohol abuse of its minions. They only care about the money, and a dead celebrity is a lucrative one.
@Dantespeako Жыл бұрын
She said 'no' 😏
@FlameFlickers Жыл бұрын
What exactly do you mean by a "minder"? She had people who tried to intervene and, equally, she had people who were happy to enable her addictions so they could leech off of her. Ultimately, she was an adult so she had free will over her choices and, sadly, she didn't always make the best choices.
@stephensim5839 Жыл бұрын
I meant someone hanging around looking out for her, like a nanny for grown ups. An English expression sorry.
@OfJaggedRisings Жыл бұрын
Not to mention cell phone cameras, and the Internet… Who wants their worst moments captured online for all eternity…
@theincredulousr Жыл бұрын
Its weird as I grew up listening to all of the hard rock bands and loving the idea of being a rock star but I have never been into drinking etc I remember my dad telling me I wouldn't like having to play all the bars/clubs and I'm sure he was right back then when they were full of smoke. Our band has started playing some pubs now and its great fun. No one cares that we all drink diet coke and I don't stink of smoke at the end of the night. Its acceptable now that we just love playing music and don't need to fit a certain stereotype, which is awesome.
@leeoslayer3190 Жыл бұрын
Never get bored listening to you, rock on..
@stereomagic1 Жыл бұрын
I rather feel much of the cautionary element that has entered "rock 'n' roll" shenanigans these days is down to the economics of it, as you've pointed out, Justin. Yet, broadly speaking it is about social media. We used to DJ house/rare groove/rap in London back in the late-80s and 90s and it was proper hedonistic. Copying the rockers with a Mod/Disco twist? Yeah, all right then. But what happened in the club stayed there. Mostly! I will hazard some abuse here and declare my first love is jazz but truth be told, if you can win an award for sounding like A-Ha in sunglasses after dark..? I love what you all do...and yes, I have the pic disc of "I Believe.." 🙄 Keep it up brother x
@AdamForeman Жыл бұрын
I'm not in a band, but I can tell you that from my first job and as a Forensic Scientist, I spent my lunch times and evenings after work, in the pub in complete ignorance of the consequences it would have on my health later on in life. I became an alcoholic giving me cirrhosis of the liver, I became overweight and the issues then caused gout and late onset diabetes. I haven't drunk since 1996 and my liver is fully recovered. But I'm still a recovering alcoholic, I still have diabetes, gout damage to my joints and diabetes caused diabetic neuropathy from the waist down. Knowing how I am know, in hindsight, I wish I never drank so much. But a career in Forensic Science isn't easy and fellow employees joined in keeping each other company. Now I have had to retire early for health reasons.
@frankenfurter58 Жыл бұрын
How could you be a forensic scientist and not see that coming?
@AdamForeman Жыл бұрын
@@frankenfurter58 because stress of the job overtakes everything else. You see scenes of crime, autopsies, murders, rapes etc and a nice drink after work helps you relieve the stress and the days horrific sights, and again I WAS AN ALCOHOLIC!
@MarilynKely-nf9wx Жыл бұрын
@@AdamForeman I guess we all have our excuses. I've worked in palliative care for two decades and carry the burden of those death experiences daily, but I'd never dream of self-harm to cope with stress. What good are we to ourselves or others in a stupored state? Food for thought.
@AdamForeman Жыл бұрын
@@MarilynKely-nf9wx the number of doctors, surgeons, police officers, firemen etc that drink, smoke and take prescription drugs daily is well known. I'm just one of them that is willing to come forward and admit my problem. In the background, GP's telling you to stop drinking, smoking etc are doing the exact same thing due to stress. I suggest people understand that people are human beings and are affected by their dedication to their jobs that most people couldn't do.
@SuziQ. Жыл бұрын
@@MarilynKely-nf9wx, Read the last four words he wrote, again.