Israeli Top Tier gets "Buffed" - Merkava Mk.4 LIC - War Thunder

[@redpolo3812]

The Merkava mk4 LIC (Low Intensity Conflict) is a modification that helps the merkava perform better in urban operations it includes a remote controlled MG, better armor underneath the tank and a soft kill active protection system.

[@uthopia27]

Better armor underneath? From land mine ?

[@Event_LUNAE_Horizon]

@@uthopia27 no, from more rats! They love digging underneath and eating floor of the tank so crews fall out

[@mrgarina2977]

@@Event_LUNAE_Horizon u took the words out of my mouth ! genius engineers

[@Event_LUNAE_Horizon]

@@mrgarina2977 its not joking matter, the mole people will rise up sooner or later!

[@mrgarina2977]

@@Event_LUNAE_Horizon viva la revulsion!

[@michaelabramowitz8810]

there is a place for 2 shells in the front but we don't use them because they are so impractical instead we put a shit ton of snacks in there

[@n1co2017]

it’s turret is not a bug it’s the correct armour values. it’s just that gaijin screwed over all other Israeli composites because i guess some idiots at top tier complained that they couldn’t point and click on it.

[@doge_sevens]

i assure you its the russian mains

[@MS07B3-G0UF]

@@doge_sevensyeahhh you’d be surprised at the Abrams/Leo 2A5/6 players that actively complained in game

[@mrgarina2977]

sad...

[@doge_sevens]

@@MS07B3-G0UF ehhh nah its probably russians, im a germany main (with also britain and israeli top tier) so it would be nice to be able to take a hit to the face in the merkava

[@CNTX864]

the plane "scope" didn't have any problems, just that when you radar lock an enemy, it already shows you where to aim to hit them, it's a small thing, but if you go to see in the update they added it for all planes to top tier

[@sinsley1]

Not all planes have it. The f14 had a radar gun sight and it isn’t in war thunder.

[@ArcticSnow930]

As sinsley said, not all top tier has it, depends if they had it in RL It's useful for jets without tracers such as most Swedish jets but i believe only 2 of their jets has recieved them so far and it's 2 out of the 3 viggens ingame at the moment Can't say wether only those jets has it in RL or if Gaijin is planning to add more in the future

[@jameshodgson3656]

The LIC has the correct Merkava turret armour, it's the other ones that are missing quite a bit. I'll remind everyone that this turret has tanked Kornets irl and you can easily find photos and articles about that

[@Whereismydad114]

Gaijin won’t accept that proof, they’ll be like this was photoshopped! Merkava Mk4s are made of rubber even though every document out there has Israeli engineers and tank crews talking about the reason why the tank is designed with crew protection as priority over anything else. Tell them it’s Russian made and they’ll somehow find documents 🤣

[@MyWaifuNow]

@@Whereismydad114 "Merkava armor is made of Russian tanks driver hatches"

[@dannycage8672]

It just got destroyed by a drone so stop talking bs xD

[@pablek1730]

Its turret is insanely strong compared to the other top tier merkavas

[@Candloreingggg]

Normally they should be that strong, a guy made a bug report 4 months ago as the turret can't even take a 1200mm rocket, which has happened many times that the turret could

[@n1co2017]

@@Candloreingggg while Israel never revealed the true effective thickness of the armour they did say that the front turret protection is about equivalent to the protection of either the 2A6’s wedges or the 2A7’s wedges i forget which one.

[@casualspawnpeeking3680]

If you play it hull down and only show the turret you're nearly invincible to any threat aside from air to ground rockets and bombs

[@kaiderbrecher9642]

@@casualspawnpeeking3680 🧢

[@M4_Soppi_2]

​@@casualspawnpeeking3680with the B and M? Nope

[@Photopilot95]

I like how gaijin said adding the SPYDER system for Israel would of been too OP, but this update they add the Pantsir instead lol... and the merkava is exactly how other 4s should be like

[@nothisismine]

Soviet “balnce”

[@Whereismydad114]

It’s mind boggling ain’t it. Don’t worry we’ll see another damn Magach before the thought of a decent SPAA for Israel crosses their mind.

[@gaiofattos2]

Israel could get HVSD/ADAMS (High-Value Site Defense / Air Defense Advanced Mobile System), it's a Israeli "Pantsir"

[@flyingbullseye]

JustinPlays: There is so much broken in WT Every WT player: preach it brother

[@yoyolast6559]

The Mk.4 LIC has a mine protection module that adds an armor plate under the hull (which weighs about 3 tons so... make of it what you will), other than that it doesn't really have any functional differences from the Mk.4B in the game.

[@a_stone]

Should have an RCWS similar to what the Challenger 2s have, stabilised and with a thermal sight.

[@thaman8007]

The Reticle going bonkers when you shot the heil, is something new Gaijin added. It’s basically a lead indicator you get when you have a radar lock

[@Jager_Xx]

The gun being weird is just a radar lock lead indicator.

[@Sh-epard]

I can't wait to see it being nerfed to the poop like the other two Mk4s, it was a pain even in support role to grind the LIC with the Mk4M, and honestly i'm massively disappointed in the Mk4s performance (should not be a surprise...). Compared to them, the Mk2D and even both Mk3s are more resiliant and reliable with the same playstyle. They are my favourite tanks by a long shot over all MBTs in the world, but honestly Gaijin really modeled them in the worst possible way; my hopes are very little to see the turrets buffed to the currently LIC value just for have an excuse to use them again in the near future. At least the Mk2D is still usable, but as we say here: "è una magra consolazione" (It's a small consolation if i translated it correctly).

[@minelerscz]

Funny how the update is called ´´sky guardians´´, yet Israel still has NO top tier spaa...

[@Whereismydad114]

Preach, let’s talk about how they put Guardians with and “s” yet the panzie truck is the only SPAA note worthy that has been addded 😂

[@Event_LUNAE_Horizon]

@@Whereismydad114 the Czechoslovakian SPAAG is a monster a 6.0 that destroys games, but everyone is sleeping on it because HURR DURR PANT-SIR

[@space_pancakes08]

9:35 Justin starts to tank multiple shots. His reaction: “Aw man, this spalling sucks” 😂

[@rippedgnome3985]

The lack of spalling on russian tanks is one of the most infuriating and unbalanced as well as unrealistic things in game.

[@LewisB3217]

Yupp, 99% of their tanks don’t have spall liners IRL too and only a 20mm-50mm anti NBC liner, they should be taking more damage from pens, not less

[@Modeus_]

preach.

[@pierspinelli8352]

MAN FR, HOW'S POSSIBLE THAT A DM53 GOES INTO THE AMMO CAROUSEL AND THE TANK DOESNT EXPLODE

[@LewisB3217]

@@pierspinelli8352 I shot their ammo 3 times once and it just kept going black like when you break it, no explosion 💀 they need to add du shells so they explode after penetrating

[@CatsAreAmazing8187]

@@LewisB3217 ngl this is a skill issue, at that point just go for crew after the first try

[@Whereismydad114]

Aside from the netting over the commander sight which by the way is annoying as it obscures your view when looking up and down as well as a mine protection add on option. I hope they buff the other two to be like this one because this boy can take hits like it should.

[@jujubfh27]

That was an honor fighing with you ! and sorry to haven't repair you haha x) was not focused in ^^

[@razgrizz5996]

I came back to war thunder for the first time in like a month and it was nothing but getting ka50 or 52 or mig 27k to death

[@xavsul9108]

they should keep that armor on the merkava and add it to the other merkava

[@Ballistics_Computer]

In the upcoming conqueror video you should use a couple clips from your earlier attempts prior to it being fixed (whenever that will be) lol Also me personally I've been grinding top tier Russian premiums for the new lower tier AA, not the pantsir.

[@sinsley1]

The problem is as you mentioned the Russian tanks don’t spall and are hard to kill. Thus nato had to rely a lot on cas to win. Now they added the pantsir which smacks a jet before it even has time to reach the ground a lot of the time, taking away natos advantages

[@FXIIBeaver]

Russian tanks have no issues spalling I kill T-80s every match.

[@Kyanba]

@@FXIIBeaver nice joke !

[@doge_sevens]

yeah, because "2S6 bAd!11!!!" (it isnt, i have friends who own it and say its really good) if gaijin simply added the correct spalling to russian mbts alone top tier wouldnt not be nearly as one sided

[@FXIIBeaver]

@@doge_sevens except it isn’t one sided. You don’t play top tier.

[@doge_sevens]

@@FXIIBeaver I own top tier for 3 nations, I think I know what I'm talking about

[@Joe.D.780]

nothing is more unforgivable than fantasy nerfs for the sake of balance. especially from a game that prides itself on "historical accuracy"

[@mrgarina2977]

if i would look for tank vs tank game without the historical connection i would go play "Tanki Online" its sad how gaijin care about balance in those ways

[@DanSpam225]

so much is broken at the min its unreal and the t80 issue is a joke i had a match where i put challengers l27 round straight on to the side at 100m away and the era and fuel tanks just eat it like paper. its nearly impossible to win matches with how often this happens.

[@TheWhiteWolf2281]

Thank you for doing this vid mate great as always.

[@bean2349]

Hey Justin, I have a vehicle request. Because of the new update, custom loadout filters allow the saab-105 and sk-60 to become much more potent, as they can carry missiles, bombs, and gun pods at once. 8.3 sweden also has a lot of variety, and 7.3 is pretty fun as well. Of course it can be pretty frustrating at times, but I would love to see you try. There is also the new swedish spaa that you can play at 8.3. Thanks for the consideration!

[@M4_Soppi_2]

The LIC is sooooo fun to play The armor in the turret is good and it's nice I want this to stay in the game and it's balance

[@SSEF15]

This is the prototype for the Merkava Mark V "LIC-MA"

[@hiimzdeny__2878]

Buff, yea sure. I've got the feeling like Mk.4B and 4M lost the rest of their armor. I literally get my engine disabled when I get hit by .50 cal, this update is fucking bullshit I must say.

[@GxldStXrDxst]

I mean really i saw my first toptier 11.0 BR round on ur channel.. it feels simular to that clip...&after i was a 100% 🕹️ i was long searching to get the streamer for me& its u 💯

[@xenovia489]

actual turret armor no way

[@kaiderbrecher9642]

If every merk4 had that armor I would actually play them, but for now it was a complete waste of time. Feels like a collector tree for people who just like israeli technology.

[@M4_Soppi_2]

Yup

[@fuahrahn]

LIC is really fun to play. I'm just done grinding Israeli tree and i absolutely love new merkava, i wish it has APS like 4M... But playing top tier is so painful right now bcz soviet MBT is so broken. P.S. don't use M338, M322 much better, its faster and does more spall bcz its heavier, besides it's a copy of Sweden slpprj m/95 which is using by strv122a/b and cv90120 and it's really good.

[@TeurastajaNexus]

It's not a copy of a Sweden round. Sweden bought the M322 and renamed it for service.

[@fuahrahn]

@@TeurastajaNexus nvm

[@TeurastajaNexus]

@@fuahrahn Sorry man I had to.. couldn't stop it 🤧

[@Zosterias]

6:35 that was gaijin implementation of the 3rd person gun lead when you have a target locked on radar Some planes have that, the Mig 29, F-16, F-14 etc

[@John_19k_doe]

Gaijin is coping hard with the explosively of Russian tanks

[@LewisB3217]

?

[@Real-Grandpa]

@@LewisB3217 like you dont know what he means xD

[@LewisB3217]

@@Real-Grandpa just didn’t know specifically, like if he’s calling them non-explosive (they are rather explosive IRL, no blowout panels like on the abrams or other modern western tanks), was just for clarification

[@starkiller0075]

Hi from Germany

[@elcousteau3441]

Hi from france.

[@evv.19]

Hi from north korea

[@karolkotowski754]

Hi from Poland

[@itzikashemtov6045]

Hi from Israel

[@t_k_o_l]

list of broken things in this burning dumpster diaper hurricane of an update that I've noticed personally: 1. TVD that shows everyone glowing like dead tanks 2. half the SAMs in the game are weird wonky kites that don't follow your crosshair at all 3. sound direction feels weird, tanks that are far away sound much closer 4. LWS and MAW only work like half of the time 5. framerate dropped for my potato PC (with the same settings) 6. (addition 1) track repair bug when your tank starts violently sliding and shaking afterwards is back also top tier GRB is borderline unplayable if Russia isn't on your team (again) feel free to continue this list

[@ッZoroッ]

Hehe that was me at 20:32, was nice seeing you in battle :D

[@MiniSota.]

Do not try to repair this merkava, this is the only instance in which the armor works like in life, this is the main + merkava

[@Whereismydad114]

I agree. It’s amusing watching 3 Russians try to pen your turret face all at the same time and slowly try to reverse to safety 😂

[@MiniSota.]

@@Whereismydad114 🤣

[@isaiahjennings2295]

i hope the 140mm Leclerc comes to warthunder

[@ExisH-ss2js]

You're talking about merkava ctrl c ctrl v, but don't forget about magahs copies and japanese top tier - 2 original tanks and 2 the same but with dozers, im not even surprised tbh

[@LogainTheHumane]

seems like every single update the spalling against russian tanks magically gets bugged for a couple months. Of course it's never a "bug" that increases spalling, it only ever decreases spalling. Hmm I wonder why...

[@SargeJTQ]

It's absolutely criminal that Gaijin gets away with nerfing so many other vehicles and trees but will take a 12 year olds history report on how tough the t-80 or russian vehicles are. I want them to stop ignoring these comments and address their balance issues in the game. Stop nerfing the merkava line and side lining israel. It's practically anti-Semitic at this point lmao

[@M4_Soppi_2]

This armor should be to the M and B too

[@dallastcb]

pretty sure i played with you the other day you were in this thing. figured you were making a video on it lol.

[@unlockingsnow73]

Can confirm t80s are behaving weird again Last night all my Russian top tier games we steam rolled as, a stark difference to like 2 weeks ago where games could go either way and it was more balanced. Personally I don't think this is just a Russian issue, because like 3 months ago my friend and I had an issue with America where none of our shots from side on would kill Abram's (he was playing Germany so not really a Russian bias comment here) It feels like this game has a really weird trend to secretly buff and nerf tanks every few months.....

[@Optimusprime56241]

Nah Russian tanks have always been this broken

[@BasTSLA]

Sorry for spamming about Tiger HAD, I hope you make updated video one day I hope gajin adds new top-tier helicopters for France like naval tiger and tiger had Block 2

[@exoticgear8123]

Thanks

[@exoticgear8123]

It’s thunder_oze21

[@JustinPlaysTV]

Oh there you are! Post your in game nick so I can add ya to the squadron!

[@619cnt2]

Hey Justin, I was the guy dogfighting you in the first clip. Loved to play against you and sorry for destroying ur team kinda ;) would love to play u again (im also german so there should be a little bit of yeti in me aswell ;)) Keep up the great work!

[@thesaltyapplewannabe5493]

The conq now after they fixed apds is pretty great

[@farmcat9873]

Ya idk but them T-80's look like they are going down pretty easy with this Merekava

[@Phantom-dm9fz]

Super annoyed the others don’t have this turret armor. Cause they legit have the same characteristics

[@hertz3083]

Justin, do you hav any opinions on the current Russian-Soviet ammo controversy?

[@icy3-1]

Is a devious LIC. Nuff said.

[@JustinPlaysTV]

I unhearted a random comment in a previous video. Good luck finding out which one >:D

[@icy3-1]

@@JustinPlaysTV *Confusion 100* What a way to start my morning xD

[@trebicszsigmond5482]

pls play with the new british apds, that pen at the 6.3 charioteer is ridiculous.

[@raizencore]

Merkava Mk.4 the devious LIC! 👀

[@GucciManecubus]

"Kumass?" Aint no way boi 😂😂😂😂

[@TheJaygonzone]

Did they fix the APDS issue of the British Conqueror?

[@AllericEnslin]

I really want to play the Merks, but I really dont want to grind this whole year to get them :/

[@Whereismydad114]

It was painful. There is only so many times you can play a Magach before your grip on reality starts to slip 😂

[@AllericEnslin]

@@Whereismydad114 Yeah i can imagine. Just a whole tech tree of barely any stabilized tanks, looks awful

[@espc8414]

Imo I hate fighting the Merkava more than Russian tanks, just cause I don’t go against them enough so I bounce most shots unless it’s side on and the engine deck eats apfsds for lunch.

[@M4_Soppi_2]

You definitely don't know how to shoot then...the Merk M and B are bad with 0 armor You have a good APFSDS and it's dead

[@Deku-eq3py]

Ha that twitch highlight was so good lol 😂

[@thecbc7658]

I'll never ever buy any premium vehichles again. Because where is the point if they are just gonna nerf them eventually. Also I feel like the T-50 got nerfed a while ago. It use to able to bounce soooo many types of shots. Now most rounds just go right through.

[@LewisB3217]

They need to buff the 10.0 abrams it’s ammo and armor is so bad, every Russian tank having 3BM42 is so dumb too, the handholding by gaijin is crazy

[@thecbc7658]

Yeah they nerfed the P-65A-5. It use to able to shrug off some shots now it can't do sh*t. Constantly catching on fire, all bullets go through the armor plating and wings easily tear off...

[@chamoy2k00]

Insane clip tho

[@M3TA_M3TA]

T-80 hard to kill? After grinding out germans and USA without premium time/vehicles i've mastered killing t-80s

[@DavidAJBoyle]

Justin, just an idea but how would you feel if they added a game mode which was just ground vehicles. SPAA, Planes, Drones and Helis were disabled. Since they've got a mode that's purely aerial battles, I don't see why it's so unthinkable.

[@archmage2459]

Im a Merkava mk 4 Loader and I can load rounds in 5 sec, War thunder stop weakening us! and fix the armor turrets of the others merkava

[@jemuel8889]

Is that skin available in the market? 1:02 Where can I buy that?

[@goltzhar]

Why use the Kerbal Space Program sounds....?

[@jaegergames7042]

I got the US Mk.3D, and the engine only stops rounds (Even in 10.3 games alone) at about 1200m or so, anything closer and the 3D just dies.

[@Whereismydad114]

We Israeli mains still waiting for our Mk3D to be implemented. That thing is being sold for over $200 on the market. People are on crack 😂

[@jaegergames7042]

@@Whereismydad114 Kinda wish I'd purchased a 2nd to sell later on.

[@BBRAIN1977]

Why did they introduce the 11.3 br ?

[@lelandcheng9187]

pretty much all the 11.7 or higher aircraft got a radar gun lead so thats why your aiming cursor was bouncing all over the place

[@JustinPlaysTV]

Yeah I didn't realize that until the stream today. I disabled it for now.

[@jaegergames7042]

Also, it seems like everything entering Russia doesn't Spall for sh** now, not just UK, US or German vehicles. Put a Preem CV90105 dart through the front of a Turms-T, had it turn every crew member Orange, and hit at least 4 or 5 rounds with Spall. He turns his turret 5 degrees left and 1HKs me.

[@cabbageashthe1st594]

Can we talk about the fact that the conqueror can now *penetrate the turret cheeks of the 2A4* Edit: but the shell is glitch (when it pens something the sabo goes downwards. Idk if it's happening to anyone else)

[@CatsAreAmazing8187]

It’s a visual glitch only

[@scl9671]

It was a beast of a round tbf. The British have always been good at making very powerful guns. For instance the Tortoise should have an APDS round capable of going clean through the front of a Jagdtiger but obviously for balance reasons it isn't allowed it.

[@nothisismine]

I guess the bias has returned to its original owners

[@Evrimomono]

Italy/Britain/French not having solid top tier lineups Merkava's being nerfed unrealistically. (unrealistically because Gaijin plays that card whenever they want, why can't we?) RELIC stopping APFSDS. No spalling on clear side shots on a Russian tank. Unreasonable amounts of new and UNNECESSARY additions to Russia, most notibly 2S38 and Pantsir. And I know I've missed like dozen problems more. Say what you want but you cannot convince me that these guys are not favouring Russia in ground forces. You just can't

[@shirghazaycowboys]

Ok Justin, how in the hell did you get the Israeli longbow apache lol.

[@MrWestdickens95]

Hey guyd short question anybody got some stealthy Artillery recently? No visual impact. Did i miss something in the patch notes O.o

[@CobarGG]

its known bug

[@sharkk127]

I really want the merkava mk4s but I don't have the patience to grind Israel, I don't mind all the m60s but I kinda hate the merkaca mk2d, its massive, has no armor, and is not fast

[@Mocha_122]

When I play my merk 2d I just uninstall the mine protection and it saves a bit of weight

[@parasd2487]

in India LIC means life insurance company 💀

[@Regirs]

8:22 bigger? You've meant 'winter' maybe?

[@ghost0d077]

I want to see a ka-52,bvm,b3, and 27k plus pantsir show everyone just how ridiculous russia is right now if they don't already know as a BVM owner literally with not very good skill I'm able to hop in that tank and get 7 kill games with 1 tank yet I hop in my m1a2 sep and I'll be lucky to get 2 kills

[@EYDuff]

Top tier RB is basically arcade.

[@certaindeath7776]

is it maybe that your shots are too low, and half the spalling goes into the floor plate?

[@farmcat9873]

4:36 I always thought the engine was a good thing up front cause losing engine easy repair and lossing a crew member not so easy repair.

[@thatcarguydom266]

Because if you get shot in the engine and it full pens (it usually does) unless your next shot kills the enemy you’re up shit creek without a paddle

[@lilcoolcat]

This update is so broken it’s honestly embarrassing they where doing so well last year in terms of stability on the updates but whatever they did this patch broke everything the fact this update didn’t get at least 1 more week in dev server testing and polishing is tremendously disappointing

[@ivanbarbancon8750]

Yeah also next update: more broken stuff unjustified for Russia 😂 But maybe something more realistic: no leaf on tress in winter map 😊

[@Phantom-dm9fz]

“A bug” bs, it has that armor in rl and needs to be thay tanky. Which the other top tier merkavas need that armor damage values.

[@PatriotXIII]

* cries in non AA upgrade for israel *

[@usmcpound]

Imagine that. Gayjin's game is still broken and has a million bugs.

[@ghost0d077]

Bro fuck fixing that plane they need to release the f4s on the ps5

[@ryujinadan4098]

I think the merkavas been nerfed im not tanking shots on my LIC

[@dazaideeznut50]

Does everyone know how to get merkava 4 lic

[@justinmcculloch7644]

merkava is cool, be like merkava

[@aleksandarmiljesic68]

destroying russian tanks has become rather odd, i end up requireing 3-4 shots (because spalling) when before i needed 1-2 shots... its like WTH Gaijin...

[@emre.0732]

damn mk4 took 6 apfsds

[@M4_Soppi_2]

Israel in wt is just sad to play rn, you have to UNLOCK the nation and the top MBT are terribly bad..... The LIC is very nice but will probably get "fix" The bad of Merkavas 3/4 Slow reload No real armor (the MK4 have 500mm in 11.3 and the 3 have 200/300 mm in 10.7) BIG MBT The engine block nothing The two shells behind the engine The good Look nice Good mobility Nice shells That it....I have all the tree and it's sad to play them

[@K.Marx48]

At least they're almost immune to missles, not like the Arietes

[@M4_Soppi_2]

@@K.Marx48 xD

[@D4RKMA7TER]

Merkavas sucks ass in top tier, i just get one tapped 8 of 10 times... you have to hide in the back and be hull down which is hard due to how massive the tanks are

[@SuiSideex]

Cool i wasted my money and time to get those merkavas and they are lame cuz ofc only Russian tsnks can be unrealistic op other tsnks only unrealistic weak. Its not even close to real values like this reload times on merkavas... X D lmao, but yeah that's the small problem looking how garbage are ground RB and SB modes. Maps smaller than in WOT or AW, players who leaves afyer 1 death cuz they dont have more vehicles or they dont want have it, ghost Shells, enemy tanks wrong turret position, Russian bias , stock tanks with heats versus those t80bvm etc and more XD. And theres more and more players i guess ppl like this . Sigh just someone make better WT without bias, CAS only and p2w and stupid 1 Crew one vehicle respawn. Lets just add everyone same amount of points and use them with vehicles u like, only CAS limits if u need to add this...

[@GxldStXrDxst]

😂🎉 the transmission of the mk.4s is awesome🚲 only w. A low crew the loader get always hit🤯 maybe i would take there 150ass crew on it🤔