New CPUs & GPUs for 2025

[@sharvay]

I'm almost convinced all these companies have such a confusing naming convention just to trick the layman into paying high money for laptops with no good value

[@bobsander4739]

That's exactly right

[@Definitely_Melnyx]

Either that or engineers named them.

[@shroomjak200]

Oh 100%.

[@NotMrToast]

Especially AMD

[@davitdavid7165]

Planned obsolescence. Plastick trackpad, old CPU, terrible screen. Might as well give it bad hingest to end it's suffering. New laptop every year. I heard it creates some very loyal customers

[@carlosalvarez8076]

"Pro" use to be those processors used in "Business or Workstation" laptops. I have one, "4750u Pro", basically the BIOS have some extra security features.

[@oblivious_1216]

One of my biggest complaints for the Qualcomm chip was that while it is designed to be budget friendly, it ended up being put into an expensive chassis like the zen book A14 bumping it’s starting price to 899. Wth…

[@aymir]

The "PRO" designation is a term AMD uses to refer to a line of business oriented processors that use their "PRO" technologies, which provide a level of security to prevent malicious software from causing more damage, they also claim 18 months of software stability, whatever that means.

[@rtt4163]

AMD "PRO" = Intel's "vPro"

[@adinnugroho6544]

I think Pro in AMD CPU means used in Business. Non Pro is for general consumer. Btw, Strix Halo is meant for competing or AMD inspired by Apple's M series design

[@chrisforbes9816]

Needing to study quantum mechanics to understand the naming of these

[@12100F]

5:27 Lunar Lake's 140V iGPU is not the same as Arrow Lake-H's 140T iGPU. Lunar Lake uses Battlemage, or Xe2, whereas Arrow Lake-H uses Alchemist+, or Xe1+.

[@FedJimSmith]

I'm a prospect buyer, so LL > AW right?

[@12100F]

@@FedJimSmith depends on what you're doing. If you want iGPU performance above all else, buy STX-H.

[@tyyamnitz8408]

Would love an integrated graphics comparison once you are able to test some of these

[@rramnel]

Thanks for the comprehensive but still somewhat "simple" overview. Sad to see that the G14 2025 version still has options with the AMD Zen 4 architecture.

[@anetizen6404]

bruh recycled content... could've Thunderbolt-5-ed a Raptor Refresh chip or OCuLink-ed it instead haha

[@ZiggyMercury]

What a fucking mess. As has already been said by others - this starts to seem intentional, in order to trick/cheat buyers.

[@antonczerwinske5910]

That CPU overview graphic is awsome thank you❤

[@RobertTowell]

Thank you, this was so needed. The graphics on cpu alone helps so much.

[@GoFeri]

Come up with a naming scheme for a fictional Forge mobile CPU family by Vortex Inc. It combines several architectures and each series has at least three SKUs. Vortex Forge AI Ultra Max 7 (Colombus River refresh) - for entry-level prosumers Vortex Forge AI Ultra Max V7 (Atlas Hill) - for entry-level prosumers thin & light low-power Vortex Forge AI Ultra Pro Max 8 (Magellan River refresh) - for mid-range prosumers Vortex Forge AI Ultra Pro Max V8 (Atlas Hill) - for mid-range thin & light low-power Vortex Forge AI Ultra Pro+ Max 9 (Prometheus Hill) - for high-end prosumers Vortex Forge AI Ultra Pro+ Max V9 (Atlas Hill) - for high-end prosumers thin & light low-power Vortex Forge AI Ultra Pro+ Max3D 9 (Prometheus Hill) - for high-end gaming Vortex Forge AI HyperUltra Pro+ Max X9 (Olympus Hill) - for ultra high-end prosumers Vortex Forge AI HyperUltra Pro+ Max3D X9 (Olympus Hill) - for ultra high-end gaming Vortex Forge AI HyperUltra Pro+ Max3D X9X (Olympus Hill) - for ultra mega high-end gaming Vortex Forge xAI HyperUltra Pro+ Max X9 (Olympus Hill) - for ultra high-end ML

[@VihangaDananjaya1214]

When these laptops are actually available to buy for reasonable prices, AMD & Intel will have launched another entire generation of CPUs.

[@TheRetroEngine]

Very concise video, well explained. I am looking for something, but not top of the top of the range.

[@xerzy]

Honestly, for development purposes the Qualcomm chips have been very interesting ones. That unimpressive X1P-42-100 is matching previous gen chips like the 155H or the 7840HS/8845HS/260 (...come on AMD) for compiling tasks, yet sipping power ‒ much more so when I'm not doing that nor playing games, so I can just set it at the lowest tier. I can easily go for half a week with a 52Wh battery (Lenovo IdeaPad Slim 5 14Q8X9, yes it's just a lower tier Yoga Slim 7x), very little to complain about other than EU pricing (999€ for 60Hz OLED+1TB+32GB, should be 799 instead). So perhaps the most basic X, with very similar specs, has a fighting chance.

[@fidelcorona9998]

Like always, buy AMD

[@Mahm00dM0hanad]

0:19 That’s actually really helpful, thanks a lot

[@lukass.4047]

AMDs Pros have features for IT-departments. IIRC they can remotely enforce BIOS updates, can block users from updating/changing BIOS themself or replacing parts with parts that could be corrupted.

[@12100F]

I really like the flowcharts for explaining the CPU naming schemes!

[@12100F]

the AMD 'Pro' moniker is for business laptops (think Intel vPro). It won't be on consumer variants iirc.

[@vizagblues]

love to see some testing on the new amd based laptops that were introduced in ces 2025, mainly HP, Lenovo,. and Dell seem to be coming up with Intel based laptops

[@daizexi1399]

josh i can feel ur aura just by looking at the pic in the thumbnail

[@owlmostdead9492]

AMD "Pro" is like Intel's "vPro", they support memory encryption and other advanced security features.

[@pkmachinegun]

The Strix Halo APUs are amazing. I hope Lenovo makes a Thinkpad that can compete with the HP ZBook Ultra 14 G1a.

[@rack6911]

Not even a month ago the Ryzen 7 8845hs was almost a top of the line processor and now the Ryzen AI 7 350, witch is better in everything, is meant to be used by students and for low power tasks, are you sure about that? I understood that Ryzen 9 8945hs/h --> Ryzen ai 9 370/365 Ryzen 7 8845hs/h --> Ryzen AI 7 350/360 (and so on) Fire Range will be covering what before was the Ryzen 9 8945hx and 8845hx and strix Halo is a new lineup that has cpu performance between the 370 and Fire range and 4060-4070 laptop gpu performance. Also I don't get why Intel core ultra 200h and hx basically have last year npu, not even trying to compete with amd, and nobody mentioned it, i get that now is kinda useless, but it coud turn out to be really helpfull is 2-3 years time, perhaps to be used by copilot or windows 12. Did I got things wrong?

[@dgillies5420]

"Pro" is a longstanding AMD convention for CPUs that have remote management for corporate customers. It's annoying as hell that they even make non-pro products but thats always what gets released first ...

[@thedarknightnicht]

You should rethink the Krackan Point vs Hawk Point placement A R7 8840HS might be more powerful than a Ryzen AI 7 350 since the 350 has Zen5C cores included

[@HOPCOUNT]

This was very helpful.

[@nivmhn]

This was very informative. Thank you!

[@Not_a_lier]

They will make sure that this video will become outdated by the next launch cycle

[@_b001]

Here i thought that SaaS products were jumping on the AI bandwagon to entice product managers so they can pitch it to customers, never knew AMD was trying to entice product managers instead of gamers, people who play video games consider AI to be the biggest bloat and I hope these companies understand that in the first place.

[@victorutomo7244]

It almost like those companies don't make anything good so they need to confuse the consumers.

[@anthonyzheng7274]

Alot of form factors shrunk in size (thinner). Kinda sus tbh. Especially for those "premium thin/light" with CNC aluminum chassis. Thinner aluminum body will just make the surface temps like palm rest spot hotter and even more uncomfortable to use. Not to mention the fans will be screaming and more higher pitched than ever before. Change my mind

[@sopek1427]

Finally a good summary video

[@sembl4nce1]

Don't forget to play the video at 0.9x

[@Watchandlearn91]

I didn’t think she was talking too fast at all

[@Echø_yþ]

She isn't even talking too fast.

[@kingsecrecy]

hey josh could you create a video about the best laptops for ethical hackers and other related stuff

[@Gustavo_St]

One of the best videos ever! Very unique and most useful! There has rarely if ever been so many great CPU launches in a given period, this really helps! Congrats guys!

[@saito272]

Pro in AMD CPUs have better security and is more "Business" oriented

[@teechef1951]

I just bought the Lenovo yoga slim 7x . I could have got Dell XPS with the snapdragon 80 chip. But this guy showed me that the 7x with the 78 chip literally runs faster. I could have spent more money and got a slower laptop. This guys great thx bro !

[@AAJJ007]

I've given up understanding these inconsistent and downright dumb naming conventions. I understood them up until 2024 (mostly). But this is just too much even for the nerdiest among us.

[@seth4321]

I needed this video sooo badly. Thank you so much for the great work!

[@nameless_stranger]

I hope AMD keeps making their unified memory chips get better, so the macbook has a real competitor

[@andyH_England]

I understand that both AMD and Intel may return to SODIMM as unified is too expensive and has damaged their margins. Hopefully, the degradation in performance won't be too noticeable.

[@grahamguenther8989]

Complaining about naming conventions when this channel is named Just Josh and there is NO JOSH.

[@davitdavid7165]

I hope the amd apu is used on some budget mashines. For those who want a laptop that can play trippleA games at low settings, maybe medium, it should be idral

[@STORMFIRE07]

Hey team josh, can you guys please compare these newer processors names to the old processors names when the naming was sensible? (Before the “strix” and “core ultra” naming days such as at the time of AMD ryzen 5000 series laptop CPUs (Ryzen 9 5900HX/HS, Ryzen 7 5800H/HS, Ryzen 5 5600H etc) and Intel 14th gen (i9 14900H, i7 14700H, i5 14500H) etc) so we know like what CPU is supposed to be successor to what like “ok so the new Ryzen Ai MAX 385 is similar to Ryzen 9 5900X in the sense it has 8 cores, 16 threads”? So that we can cut through the whole confusing naming BS and it’s easier to compare the older generations so know where each processor stacks up?

[@htkaze6092]

I'll be waiting for the test of the HP ZBook Ultra G1a. It's actually the laptop that I'm the most interested in for now.

[@resetpassw0rd]

Qualcomm better add wired PRINTERS support.

[@pepejw]

maybe PRO chips are used in workstation laptops, e.g. thinkpads? i think it's the same with radeon pro graphics

[@Arkan_Fadhila]

i have to clarify something on Arrow Lake-U. Yes its nothing more than clock speed and memory speed bump over Meteor Lake-U but they achieved this by upgrading the process node of compute tile from Intel 4 to Intel 3, and i guess its worth mentioning since its not a simple refresh like Core 200 series a.k.a Raptor lake refresh. And i agree with you on 2025 cpu line-up from intel, its too much and confusing. Their new unified naming scheme somewhat help with that mess but its still not good enough. Intel need either release less products or somehow modify their naming scheme once again. Example: erase number from refresh product before: Intel Core 9 270H after: Intel Core 270H It will simplify the naming and give customers more hints that this is not a cpu with new architecture.

[@JustJoshTech]

This is helpful thank you

[@giladmoyal4801]

Does the Strix Halo cpus supposed to match m4 chips performance on battery or only while plugged?

[@tomas_popik]

Great explanation 😍 Thank you 😊

[@schizofennec]

the pro will be like vpro, lenovo sells a 7840u pro etc and 6850h pro etc its just gonna have enterprise features most people watching wont need

[@RajaSekar-USA]

I have laptop with intel 13700H with rtx4060. Do we still need npu laptops ? I am confused with AI npu laptops.

[@JustJoshTech]

You definitely do not. It's mostly a gimmick right now

[@RajaSekar-USA]

@@JustJoshTech Thank you 😊

[@MrMopbucket]

I get that the M4 is probably the best mobile cpu for content creation and efficiency...but on the left side you have gaming and machine learning. Strix Halo will absolutely crush the M4 in those two categories because they have better video drivers (gaming) and the ability to have a massive memory pool (machine learning).

[@abc_cba]

RIP to Intel and Qualcomm in advance.

[@NotMrToast]

Intel is doing good in laptops

[@Jan96106]

Clearly you don't own a laptop with Qualcomm, and you have signed on to some corporation as a die-hard fan like you are watching a football game.

[@inamulbhuyan]

only intel rip.. Qualcomm bohut door jayega beta abhi to start kiya hai...

[@abc_cba]

@inamulbhuyan all your comments on this channel are for Qualcomm, clearly shows that you are promoting it for you're paid for it. But that is common for Indian trolls to just polarise everything seeing how unemployed the youth in our country are!

[@inamulbhuyan]

@abc_cba acha beta.. tu present dekh raha hai or mai future... intel x86 not future..future arm hai beta ..

[@Kaizu823]

To just imagine a 5000 series graphics card (5060-5050) to basically have the same vram as something you can get from a 2000 series card is kinda disappointing. 12gb should BE the minimum at this point.

[@Gustavo_St]

You deserve a Max Plus Pro Ultra congrats for this video. Awesome!

[@nimabaraty6553]

Thanks for this useful video ❤

[@AAJJ007]

Why these "Lakes"? How do they make sense? Why not just call them Gen 14 without the "Lake". Or if it must be "Lake", call them "14th Lake"... Just plain dumb!

[@glub1381]

I think the "lake" thing used to mostly just be Intel's internal naming scheme for each generation because chips really were named like you suggested. Core i7-7600k = 7th gen i7, etc. Recently I guess they realized that every other manufacturer was trying to make their naming schemes as incomprehensible as possible so they decided to start using the "Lake" thing in the marketing to differentiate between extremely similarly named products with vastly different performance, like the 200u and 200v series.

[@neilneilwawawa]

zen4 hawk tuah point

[@JustJoshTech]

Wish I thought of that

[@atharvadate7345]

Did Asus discontinue the Zephyrus M16 model or am I missing something?

[@LucianDobre]

Yes, it's merged with the g16

[@rael_gc]

I LOVE this lady clear voice and pronunciation!

[@TiggerLyOne]

It was a bad idea to release/rename/refresh a CPU/GPU line every year! All that marketing bs not only confuse consumers but often end up biting them in the xxx when they underdeliver!

[@andyH_England]

They do this to move away from their relatively uninspired previous generations. They hope people will forget about the 13th-gen Intel issues. They did the same with the iGPUs.

[@TheDanEdwards]

Intel/AMD/Qualcomm are chasing Apple, who are moving out new gadgets every year. Qualcomm might be able to keep up but the other two are struggling IMO.

[@aizekpersonal6389]

Just a casual gamer but I like to buy something nice for myself. Been thinking to get the Zephyrus G16 Intel 9 RTX 4080. Would I miss out a lot on the 5xxx?

[@daizexi1399]

yes wait for 5000 series

[@Definitely_Melnyx]

How casually are we talking about?

[@nameless_stranger]

If you can get the 2024 version on sale, its still a great machine. Otherwise, just wait for the new gen, especially if you want more fake frames 😂

[@markpeene4757]

The rtx 5090 laptop gpu is actually a 5080 desktop with 8 gb more vram

[@Vikushu]

Good lord, what a confusing mess. Intel is using 4 different architectures for their laptop range. You have to wonder why they don't just drop Raptor Lake from the range entirely. Especially since Meteor Lake and Arrow Lake serves its niches better. At least the budget laptop space could be interesting. No more Zen 2 APU's and crappy Celeron processors.

[@adinnugroho6544]

I maybe just missed the time AMD wasn't naming their Processor as confused as Today. It just reminds me the 2 videos from "Techquickie" talked about mess and confused thing about USB and power plug 😂

[@tomilan6001]

what is equivalent to i5 today

[@JustJoshTech]

Core Ultra 5

[@tomilan6001]

@@JustJoshTech 😃

[@DT-vc7hd]

"Saving the least exciting announcement for last..." whomp whomp, sorry Qualcomm

[@ditroia2777]

The PRO ones are for business laptops, and have greater security.

[@NadirMuthu]

Totally a geeked out video

[@titan9161]

Why is your channel called 'Just Josh', when there are more people than just Josh?

[@JustJoshTech]

It's just a historical thing that has become ridiculous at this point

[@titan9161]

@@JustJoshTech Oof

[@pc1234asdf]

I want an all AMD laptop with their best discrete GPU. Screw intel and nvidia for their backdoor deals these last few years.

[@iraklimgeladze5223]

I like Ryzen 385 8/16 with 32 graphic cores, Well balance CPU

[@stanislasflipo7214]

I am a nerd and even I cannot follow the naming scheme anymore

[@BriefNerdOriginal]

If I need to listen at half speed, then the explanation video doesn't work much...

[@mightymallet5474]

Seems like a you issue since i can literally understand everything at 1x?

[@drinkwater9891]

i can understand everything at 1.75x, except the amd crap as their names are just a waste of time

[@der_Kulturforscher]

Just bought the Lenovo 7i Aura with Lunar Lake and it's already pretty much outdated. 😅

[@kanishkbanker]

It is a little outdated. But from my understanding, the processor in 7i Aura holds its own. So don't worry too much. It's a good laptop.

[@mariussm7797]

I'm still confused even after this video :)))) For real, did AMD and intel hired the same marketing guy that came up with all this names? Jesus. I guess Apple are the only normal ones left.

[@NVidiero]

Pro Max x3d Ultra IA 2025 in a nutshell

[@pokeveteran8776]

this is the best explanation

[@brownfox1540]

Thanks, I understood nothing. Oh well, you tried.

[@anarsosoroo2891]

Nice video

[@abedalrahmanalmuhtaseb9297]

we want best laptops for programmers 2025 video

[@anetizen6404]

Mac Mac Mac

[@Hi-how-are-you-today.]

Thanks

[@pedrohenrique-wb3ed]

Finaly laptops got intersting again. Next year with medusa and nvidia on the game have a dedicated pc is going to be irrelevant for most People

[@inamulbhuyan]

Snapdragon X ❤️ 🚀

[@onebigfamily2446]

m4 for high end gaming??? why do you mislead people, thats absolute nonsense

[@JustJoshTech]

We do not mean that, and i think 99% of viewers know that. We are comparing high performance CPUs like those used in high-end gaming as well as other use cases

[@andyH_England]

M4 is great for high-end gaming, but sadly, there are few games available. But the M4 Pro/Max are competitors to Arrow Lake from Intel in some instances, so it depends on what you need. I do not game, so Macbook Pros are my choice in the "Pro" market, especially as now they are comparably priced compared to five years ago.

[@TheDanEdwards]

Watching the video I was not confused. Then again, "high end gaming" is an odd thing to care about. Most computers are used for mundane things like email and watching KZbin, which is why AMD/Intel have all those variants. The Apple M-series are higher performing than those for nearly all creative and programming work, and that is what the high-end chips from AMD/Intel, which are discussed in this video, are striving to compete against.

[@Watchandlearn91]

AMD is notoriously terrible at naming things

[@onebigfamily2446]

Change the name of the channel already, this lady is not Josh

[@blueeyednick]

Laptops still suck in 2025. Here's why - abysmal designs, 19th century cooling technology - no Air Jet after 5 years of proven record and effectiveness, keyboards still suck, no proper right arrow keys on 90% of laptops, Intel high end is 8 thread garbage, AMD has and will continue to have 0 availability of new chips and laptops, stuck with older garbage or prices are equal to those of a car.

[@smidgeondutchrabbit]

pick apple silicon not the windows stuff

[@theinktician]

Mustard.

[@toddmirabito6894]

I would be interested compared to Apple tech.

[@IosifViorelMila]

At this point, just buy a MacBook.

[@Zukunftsstark]

Absolutly great video, I watched it several times. For people doing pure content creation with Davinci Resolve, another video could be interesting too. It shows that sometimes slower processors can give better performance and just throwing money on the problem is not always the best solution. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qnTZZKmGa7Grd9U

[@TerkleTon]

Why buy anything but Apple?

[@condoriris6286]

I am more confused now.

[@SK-zm8iu]

Wow

[@selentatsukienjoyer]

Good enough except you guys are wrong for krackan point. That thing is an abomination with only 8 core GPU and only 4+4 core CPU. It won't beat hawk point except in single core and ai gimmick.

[@JustJoshTech]

Thanks. We will keep an eye on this in testing. It's a helpful comment