Off The Record: Talking About Guns

[@Screddy_Henks]

As an Aussie, I find this really interesting. It's good to be able to see sensible conversation that isn't heated and unreasonable. It was also good to hear a view from someone that has moved to the USA, and the media about guns that's exported to the rest of the world. I am happy with Australia's gun laws, it's where I live and what I grew up with. It really is a cultural conversation.

[@YungAntoine]

America, the only place in the world where you protect yourself, and go to jail at the same time.

[@Dr.Dankerson]

because even the attackers will claim self defense even if they were in the wrong. its sad

[@2000rayc]

no thats just CA NY and other country's UK Australia new zealand those people up north

[@Jayydubss]

Joe and Kalyne planned their outfits together lol

[@abracadabra5636]

I bet they call each other the night before to plan out their outfits.

[@KurtOnoIR]

Man why would you need an extra permit and a 200$ tax to protect your hearing?

[@AnDreasDondo]

Colion Noir explains Firearms & All things 2A

[@theguydudety]

Yes I want thinking through all of these and I'd just hear his voice walking me through the logic of each point they make.

[@Sw1ftCl0ud]

Regulations only work when the regulators aren't biased.

[@THExFREE1]

I would’ve liked for Kalyne to speak up on this subject more because you could tell she’s got more knowledge and had things she wanted to say

[@austin9475]

Exactly! You can tell that she knows more about the 2nd amendment than she was putting out. Just by the phrases she used and the adding of her knowledge to others' opinions. Maybe she didn't want to get into a heated argument with Tesh who seemed to have typical liberal snowflake point of view.

[@BotheredBrute]

Tesh saying the 100s of bullets in a second thing made me chuckle

[@magicwv]

that fool had no idea wtf he was talking about. definitely simped for george floyd.

[@barrymccaulkiner7092]

The $200 tax stamp implemented back in the 1930's is worth over $4000 in today's dollars, per NFA item.

[@S1D3W1ND3R015]

Shhhhhh. Don't give them ideas. They might raise it to match inflation

[@KurtOnoIR]

8:00 that guy was shooting at armed robbers, not just two guys who jumped the fence. He would have been fine just about anywhere else, even here in Illinois. Was supoosed to be fine in CA too. It was a forcible felony being committed on him. Crazy that he's being charged. A gun free US would look like Mexico. You cant put the cat back in the bag. More guns than people would hit the black market as soon as they're outlawed. Constitution aside its just morally wrong to take away someone's means of self defense. We already know that the government isnt obligated to protect us and cannot protect us. Been proven many times.

[@bethnichols2875]

California's laws protect criminals more than law abiding citizens. It is the same way in NY. This was a vid JK did before, where they talked about what happens when a home owner tries to defend themselves in their own house. "Man Got 19 Years in Jail After Dealing With a Burglar (ft. Shapel Lacey)"

[@jacksonsax4152]

A woman in los angeles shot a robber October last year trying to force his way into her home and put him in the hospital in critical condition. She wasn't charged with anything. Why the difference in outcome?

[@mannyramirez7609]

If American citizens went to war with the US govnt the citizens will lose 100% of the time.

[@AnthonyAllenJr]

This was a great conversation. Balanced points of view.

[@TubeDeviant]

Let's get some fundamental facts out there.. There are countries with strict gun laws with some of the highest violence and murder rates in the world. There are also countries with less strict gun laws and high levels of gun ownership and some of the lowest violence and murder rates in the world. Those facts prove that guns are not the problem. Also the fact that government and police will NEVER give up their guns tells you it's not about the guns themselves, it's certain people. And we know about the corruption in police and government. In the end, it's heavily armed people (government) telling its citizens that they should not or cannot own guns.. Which is hypocritical and not based on facts and statistics. Currently, the government is using "gun control" as a hot topic to divide people, buy votes, and play politics.. They blame violence and crime on legal gun owners and at the same time, violent criminals and murderers DO NOT follow gun laws, or any other laws.. That tells you that government either doesn't actually care about "public safety" or they are clueless on the root causes and solutions.. In my opinion, violence and murder are rooted in economical and financial issues which break down the family unit, cities, towns and communities in general and create mental health issues, addiction issues and abuse in the family unit which creates generational dysfunction. If you think about it, violence is mostly gang and organized crime related.. That's about money and power. Then there's domestic violence, but what do couples routinely fight about..?? Finances. Why do people decide to "check out early"..?? Mostly because of what they lack in life which is rooted in money.. There's depression and anxiety, but what causes that..?? It's the societal expectations, stereotypes and expectations on one's self created by others. And that's only scratching the surface of addressing the root causes. My opinion: banning guns does nothing to deter or prevent violent crime and murder, does nothing to protect people, and only infringes on the fundamental rights of the law abiding. One's right to self defense/defense of one's family/home/property, property rights, privacy rights, and the right to be free from unjust search and seizure. Laws only affect the law abiding.

[@jimmymoua]

Great conversation. Really like the open minds and viewpoints from many perspectives. Ya hit the main points. Too many circumstantial cases and nuances to be a simple one-all-be-all solution. Criminals by definition don't follow the law so any gun laws would only restrict law abiding citizens, leaving them more vulnerable to criminals when seconds count. Whats the saying; "When seconds count, police are only minutes away?" I conceal carry everywhere i go in my home state and other states that recognize and honor my ccw. Can't fathom the idea of my family and I's life and wellbeing being at the mercy of another person. When i visit family in a non-reciprocity state like CA, i feel so naked esp when visiting LA and SF, esp Oakland. The social culture out there is just different. My head was on a swivel more than usual. Criminals know you're less likely to be legally carrying and are more bold. I was fortunate my family out there were all licensed to carry so they had our backs.

[@sLeepy1004]

"Rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it" 👈💯💯💯

[@pkruez2089]

They banned KZbin gun channels which plays a big part on positive firearms education. Channels like Hickok45, loveable grandpa showing how fun it is to plink. Forgotten Firearms who share the history behind pew pews. Many other channels who share safe firearms handling.

[@bigmike0000000]

Hickok isn’t banned…. What gun channels were? Why are you making stuff up?

[@c_pistons9989]

@@bigmike0000000 He was banned at one point, and many believed who was shadow banned after being let back on youtube. Keep in mind, when he was banned he had 0 strikes, and how never broke youtube guidelines. I don't know other gun youtubers that got banned, and I don't know if it is a common thing for youtube to do. And I have no idea if Hickok ban had anything to do with politics, or maybe just some sort of youtube bug or something. All it takes is a quick google search to see that he was banned :P.

[@bigmike0000000]

@@c_pistons9989 I looked it up. He was accidentally banned for a day eight years ago and still gets millions of views and his channel recommended to someone like me who doesn’t follow any gun channels.

[@pkruez2089]

@@bigmike0000000 calm yourself kid. He wasn't banned, but censored and demonetized much like the rest of gun channels.

[@jacksonsax4152]

Forget learning to shoot guns, learn to dodge bullets.

[@LaddRusso91]

Woah

[@SpAzZzZz_]

People fail to answer what country has the most gun violence, ain’t us.

[@codystrange3104]

Game doesn’t have enough belts is the best way I’ve heard it explained in my way

[@ThePandaDoctor]

I can go rent a big U-Haul without any issues or delays and that’s a massive machinery that can do a lot of damage..

[@HieuBris]

1;39 the zoom in on "common sense" LMAO it is yet somehow its too complex for the government to apply.

[@rybo510]

When I was younger we used our fists and then everyone moved on with their lives. If you lost that was that. the 70s and 80s... amazing and simple. ❤❤❤❤

[@flossjosh]

Cap

[@vincentlaw6985]

@@flossjoshgo back to mehico

[@lonewolfy5697]

Invite colion noir here for firearms talk

[@BotheredBrute]

18:00 I’m glad Joe kept bring Tesh back into the actual convo

[@dwaynefong]

in california we can only do 1 gun in DROS 1 gun in 30 days and talking about annual regestration on each gun.

[@Zhcwu]

Only applies to new purchases... You can buy as many second hand ones at a time. That's how I make mass purchases at once.

[@dwaynefong]

@@Zhcwu only private parties and consignments the work around is obtain coe and C&R then you can even order ammo to your home

[@atienzo98]

I can make a couple calls, hit up some people on my social media, and get a gun on Off the street in 1 afternoon. I think there should be a standard for who can own a gun, but the average person should be able to purchase a gun to defend themselves against criminals that can walk around ANY gun laws and get a gun anyway.

[@shaggyguy662]

Damn

[@2000rayc]

18:55 finally someone points it out

[@mala_okolicka]

unrelated .. i hope youtube makes comments update automatically just like views and likes

[@bethnichols2875]

Bart's one bullet rule sounds like what Andy did with Barney Fife. 😂 My brother-in-law has guns. I haven't ever seen them, yet I know he has them because he is a hunter.

[@SleepingSoldier]

I just whistled the theme song after I read that sentence.

[@bfgboy2]

This was actually one of the best jk discussion about the topic of guns I've seen. This is why it's ALWAYS better to have multiple POVs in any serious discussion. I'll always love JK no matter, but since of the crew already have strong set opinions on this topic, it hard to get anywhere whenever the subject matter is brought up...but this time around with Tesh in mix and asking the crew more direct and challenging questions, I feel as though I finally understand both sides of this topic much better now.

[@kiarademoner]

Dude I carry my gun with me everywhere I go and I couldn’t imagine living somewhere I wouldn’t be able to use it.

[@pkruez2089]

Coming from Cali to Texas. I feel much safer with my diaper bag carry.

[@bound6172]

Yup. Moving from Cali to Florida, not much better in the mental illness sense but at least I can stay strapped. 😂😂

[@kiarademoner]

@@bound6172 this! 😂😂😂😂

[@kiarademoner]

@@bound6172 and welcome to Florida 🙌🏽

[@bound6172]

@@kiarademoner Thank you!

[@ifeelikerain]

What the heck at the end of the video I'm totally calling the police haha

[@_2315_]

6:39 😂😂😂😂 facts!!!

[@anothercommenter-nu2tf]

Actually California is a castle doctrine state. And for the CCW guy, the reason his license got suspended is because the gun he was carrying wasn't the one he registered in the application since the original one was stolen (which he didn't report to his CCW issuing agency). Aside from the facts, needing to even register a CCW firearm in the first place is a dumb law anyways. And the fact he had his license revoked because of that dumb reason is even more stupid considering what had just happened. Getting a CCW in California is an extensive, lengthy, fuck fuck game kinda process that anyone who successfully gets one is way more trustworthy than some trigger happy patrol cop. Beyond filtering felons and an aptitude test, gun control has always been about disarming law abiding citizens for easier control.

[@dwong411]

Guns are not the problem mental health is, the gun laws don’t do anything sorry

[@thalunizz21]

So why have any laws then, right? It's not like they don't work in any other country. 😂

[@mufasta8322]

​@@thalunizz21There's already a plethora of gun laws in the books. What's happening, is that these stricter and stricter gun laws that clowns are pushing for, serve only to affect *_RESPONSIBLE_* gun owners. It's an equivocation fallacy comparing gun laws to other countries with much smaller population numbers, and CERTAINLY much fewer guns in circulation. The sheer number of guns in this country makes it impossible to ban if that were the goal. Gun control bozos will only create sitting duck situations, where responsible citizens are unarmed, and criminals illegally have all the guns(LIKE THEY DO NOW) victimizing the population like fish in a barrel. All it serves, is to disarm innocent people. Gun control advocates can *GF themselves.*

[@mufasta8322]

​@@thalunizz21There's already a plethora of gun laws in the books. What's happening, is that these stricter and stricter gun laws that clowns are pushing for, serve only to affect *_RESPONSIBLE_* gun owners. It's an equivocation fallacy comparing gun laws to other countries with much smaller population numbers, and CERTAINLY much fewer guns in circulation. The sheer number of guns in this country makes it impossible to ban if that were the goal. Gun control bozos will only create sitting duck situations, where responsible citizens get disarmed, and criminals have all the guns, victimizing the population like fish in a barrel. Gun control advocates can *GF themselves.*

[@mufasta8322]

There's already a plethora of gun laws in the books. What's happening, is that these stricter and stricter gun laws that clowns are pushing for, serve only to affect *_RESPONSIBLE_* gun owners. It's an equivocation fallacy comparing gun laws to other countries with much smaller population numbers, and CERTAINLY much fewer guns in circulation. The sheer number of guns in this country makes it impossible to ban if that were the goal. Gun control bozos will only create sitting duck situations, where responsible citizens are disarmed, and criminals have all the guns victimizing the population like fish in a barrel. Gun control advocates can *GF themselves.*

[@joema48]

​@@thalunizz21where you paying attention? Chicago has some of country's strictest gun laws, yet it has the highest gun related crimes.

[@vincentlaw6985]

13% = 50% 🤫🤫🤫🤫

[@dlpro619]

Well, well, well.

[@normalcitizen]

There's an easy solution to this... Just go full Asian leader style and start being super harsh with the judicial system

[@danielsuh4332]

Bikes for example...Trek hybrid $1000...Discounted tires if bought without pinhead joint locks bc 25% theft rate

[@jesserosales261]

Making guns even more expensive only affects the people who actually go through the process the legal way

[@KurtOnoIR]

Oh man we need way less gun laws.

[@KurtOnoIR]

The easier the better

[@afnDavid]

Hello children! These three children on the screen are not entertaining. not informative. not funny.

[@JonathanAlexanderM]

I saw those drinking and driving interviews😂😂 and all of you are right, there’s like three I’ve seen. One’s southern another is a British and 3rd was Australian. All of em essentially said the same shit, my favorite quote from em is “soon we’re going to become a communist country”

[@CuongChanster]

Think everywhere should have the castle law

[@DeeTheBomb]

i like how bart thinks i miss his podcast

[@danielsuh4332]

Drop rents/property prices, goods pricing in states where you can't protect your belongings please.

[@shallow6104]

requesting a sparring session with nick day 1.

[@daniellethornton]

Simply No. We need need these tools to protect ourselves. Please review history. If government can over reach they will. And its not for our protection its so they can have more power. Gun rules should be left up to the community not the government. Also law enforcement majority of the time arrives after the crime and nothing stops criminals from having guns it only restricts and penalizes lawing abiding citizens of the community. Thanks for reviewing the topic. May God bless you and your families. 😁♥

[@708Alex]

silly nick

[@Zhcwu]

There were 350 school shootings last year so more than one per school day.

[@juliethelam]

when I walk my dog at the parks I go to, I always carry (Georgia) bc I can't ignore the # of reported *grapes there. the public parks... where families and KIDS are. these are scary times, and it's even scarier for women. enforcing gun control would be punishing the wrong people

[@sedled2829]

Were fucked in this regard. LA is not get more peaceful, its like entropy choas does go back to order

[@_missg25]

LA is scary, I’ve never felt like I needed my gun in Texas. Most of LA I’ve felt unsafe even with people who are from California, even with police around. Tbh more unsafe than I’ve ever felt in Mexico lol

[@droptopp3479]

Depends what part of LA though, ive been to compton, san bernardino, merced, stockton and it def is unsafe but it all depends on the area and also how you look

[@_missg25]

@@droptopp3479 I’m gonna say it all in the following sentence: I didn’t know gangs still existed.. I learned that in 2020 and people actually look like actual cholos and let me not even get started on skid row, the homeless situation is out of control but understandable with the cost of living. The whole aesthetic you see from influencers is a lie lol 😂

[@_missg25]

@@droptopp3479 the laws are not enforced or in your favor. In Texas if someone tried to break in you can shoot within reason obviously, in California if someone tries to break in and they get hurt they can sue you and you can be prosecuted lol like wtf?

[@JayJay-cw3cg]

Culturally, the US population has become more racist, more prejudice, more "act first, question later" type of mentally, from both the citizen's and the policing party. Too much corruption has built so much distrust and disconnect between government and populous that the laws which were originally suppose to be set by the people, for the people has turned into a political agenda, and who's rights intrudes into another's rights. It's all starting to make no sense, and people can see it more and more. The youth are growing up into a world where they distrust authority, they seek the thrill and challenge the rules. Things don't make sense anymore. Why is the media pushing this one narrative to fit their agenda? Because people who don't ever look for both sides, will always have their own bias towards what they like, and the media feeds off of this. They thrive from it. Why change the system if it looks "decent" on the surface.

[@childishdreams]

I know you see this Ryan. Where’d you get that fly ass jacket 😩🔥

[@droptopp3479]

Do you have a smartphone? Just screenshot his body and google image search it if you want to buy one. Trust me, ive done it few times on youtubers also

[@samuelpatton5148]

Shall not be infringed. End of video

[@Xxcoletrain83]

don't end up like Canada

[@zmcl1313]

The picture you guys have of Texas is not how Texas actually is 😅

[@abrilzz3247]

LA winos are a whole different breed. Literally naked crazy af

[@greyknight4401]

I mean, if you want to look into it, some countries do have guns they do have gun crimes, but it's just not documented, and some countries are just corrupt and don't show it but yes I think it is about education.

[@devonfelix5943]

Bart, smh… I wasn’t expecting this answer from you.. I thought he was going to be way more educated on this subject

[@shaggyguy662]

There's some not so smart people with it. I don't care much for guns. I'm a spiderman and Batman type of person.

[@Jjjjjjjjjjjjjjddc]

Havent watched the video yet but i love guns and jk news so im so ready for this long one

[@terrancepemberton4648]

Obviously people with mental problems shouldn't be allowed to have guns. But to me, rather than making big changes to gun laws, it seems one of our biggest issues is the school shootings. So I think they should step up the safety standards at the schools. Make metal detectors at all entrances/exits mandatory no matter the school or size, Have more security and officers present in every school. Let the teachers carry!! Like offer to pay staff extra if they take a training course and get licesnsed to carry and BOOM there's your extra security!! It's not the perfect plan(nothing is) but it's something....and I think making such changes can only be beneficial and couldn't hurt anything. I think each state(or either federally) should work to allocate the budget and do something.

[@rybo510]

❤❤😂😂

[@GYSMelanie5]

I'm scared of guns, but I know that I need to get over that.

[@droptopp3479]

Damm i didnt know the LA guy got charged even more. California laws freken sucks. I had seen his video few hrs when it was uploaded on youtube and news. Stupid thing is, conceal carry is easy to get but you have to pay few hundred dollars every 2yrs to keep the stupid license and also the police have to like you to let you even get the license. Anyone in his situation would have either died or let the family die had he not have a gun. Sucks that theres more charges on him now, california is so stupid. Hope he has a great lawyer

[@sendxnoodles]

Sorry guys, but you cut Kalyne off lmao

[@KJ-ek2ze]

Present day Ryan: I also dont want to hurt anyone. Past Ryan: speak for your self sucka. Im about to ruin this teachers whole life.

[@KJ-ek2ze]

Gun laws are perfect as they are, punishment for using a gun or anything else to commit a crime needs to be implemented/enforced.

[@s0meguy09]

Anyone who thinks gang shooting legal guns are ignorant

[@Proto-Sapien]

Can you PLEASE do an episode reacting to Jim Jefferies Gun Control Bit. 🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳

[@tmalonso]

The Constitution doesn’t give us rights, it declares which rights, endowed by our Creator, are inalienable by any government power, such as the right to self-defense…driving a vehicle on the government’s maintained roads is actually a licensed privilege…not an inalienable right like what is in the Bill of Rights. Tesh needs to go back to middle school social studies class lol

[@DamnAwesome]

Ig the only real solution is education and to raise the standard of living and make it where the lower class can climb easier to middle/high class, so they don't feel forced into going into a route where they have to murder and steal, because they see it as the only way to live and make money.

[@benjamindecraene3748]

Is the Asian dude really talking about people being bad drivers?

[@2000rayc]

peoples gun rights are there rights!!! the idea you are talking about how it depends on certain areas is silly. people have a right to carry and should be able to and defends themselves if they are attacked. ITS ALSO FOR THE GOVERMENT AGENTS YOUR OWN OR INVADING

[@LM2.S54]

breaking into my home isnt worth me taking your life, but Im not the one that made that choice to break in though so yes i am taking you out. im not risking my family period.

[@2000rayc]

joe in this time today it still applies. invading america i stupid. does not matter if you have jets or other weapons. you still have to deal with people going house to house city to city. even if one person can kill one soilder. you will lose your army before taking it over

[@PrudIsDaWay]

ban it. hahaha

[@Zhcwu]

The driving test is wayyy harder than the gun test

[@o6fade800]

I think the idea of “oh no gun means no problem “ is factually stupid. The best I’ve heard was “ if someone is willing to hurt someone in anyway, no matter what, they will find a way to hurt them gun or without”. Like the story in I think New Zealand, where a guy used a bow and arrow to kill 15 people. Or the mass stabbing that happened over there as well with over 30 people injured and like 10 died.

[@c_pistons9989]

I think its funny how Tesh brings up the fact that NO OTHER COUNTRY has the gun crime problem. When the US is ranked 28th in firearm murder rate, while having the most firearms within the citizens possession by a long shot. If guns = murder, wouldn't the US be number 1? Not to mention the US being ranked 55th in overall homicide rate.

[@peeenbee843]

Anyone should own any arms … period … trump 24

[@CuongChanster]

You don't need to be a black belt to use a gun. Gun makes you feel like you have the upper hand or even out the playing field. No matter the size of the person

[@bethnichols2875]

Bart was using the different belts as a metaphor. He was saying that as an example of how he feels people should be required to have more training based over the type of weapon one wants to possess. As he said, so dumb people that don't know how to properly use and store them, don't possess them.

[@thalunizz21]

AR15 doesn't mean "assault riffle" WHO CARES?! Why is that even an argument?😂

[@bethnichols2875]

You just proved her point over why it matters, because people such as yourself are uneducated about the difference. It is the same as using buzzwords to try to insight something vs actually being educated over a situation. The crew gave some very good examples over the different reasons people have guns and not all people that have guns use them to harm people, nor go out of their way to want to harm people. So to blanket statement gun laws is idiotic. 🤨

[@thalunizz21]

@bethnichols2875 I know the difference... using that as an argument is fucking stupid because just because someone might not know that information, doesn't mean they're exempt from giving their opinion on said subject. Also, this talking point of saying fewer laws is good is retarded - why have any laws at that point?🙄🤔

[@magicwv]

Not a good guest for this topic.

[@bethnichols2875]

He asked some good questions and it made for a good discussion.

[@GYSMelanie5]

Tesh is a good guest for ANY topic!

[@magicwv]

@@bethnichols2875 he literally wants guns laws to be increased because he feels modern guns are scary. same mindset as those that want to ban sugar or fossil fuels. Literally wants to be wrapped in a government blanket for comfort.

[@LaddRusso91]

True, a guest is only good when they have the same opinions as i do