Top 10 New San Martin! All New! All On Sale!

[@TheTrueHasenfeffer]

I never really considered buying a San Martin in the past, but the Explorer, Ranger and Patek clone are admittedly beautiful. I really like the Bell & Ross lookalike and I really like the original of theirs. I'm still saving towards a grail, but I'd consider the Patek. I'll never be able to own it. (If I somehow did and bought it, it's wrist time would be limited, as my wife would murder me after learning of the cost).

[@Itsmemulder]

They are only copies when it’s San Martin, but when it’s Furlan Marri, Baltic, Squale or Bulova, they are “amazing alternatives”.

[@peanutarbuckle2879]

No contest on FM, as I'm pretty sure the only reason it's got hype behind it it because of watch industry backscratching, but there is a difference between taking design cues from other watches (if no one could do that pretty much 80% of watches would disappear) and making one that seems only 'inspired' by a single model. Not a big fan of Bulova in general but many of their reissues are just bigger, uglier versions of Bulovas from the past. I've got no dog in the fight anyways, as long as they don't make straight up counterfeits SM can make the watches they want and people can wear them and it doesn't bother me.

[@Itsmemulder]

@@peanutarbuckle2879 oh so that’s how it works !! So the Bulova Super seville just takes design cues from the Rolex day date, I mistakenly thought it was the same exact watch. The Baltic HMS is very different than the Longines as well, I see. It’s just very hilarious how people make up excuses and work arounds backed up by the watch industry blogs and websites. The irony is in the double standards. But I wish I cared as much as these people do.

[@peanutarbuckle2879]

@@Itsmemulder Wow, I've never seen that Bulova before. That's pretty bad, but it's also been out of production for almost 30 years and comes from an era where half the watches on the market were Rolex copies, but cheaper and usually quartz. Context matters. Longines did not invent the sector dial, it was a style of watch that was very popular in the interwar period. Plenty of examples across history including JLC, Omega etc. I think there's even a number of PP Calatravas with white/silver sector dials. The HMS is different enough from all of the above that I wouldn't call it a copy. Again I'm not upset. Even the so called Longines San Martin copy is to me different enough that I wouldn't call it a copy, just inspired by. Enjoy what you enjoy, friend. Who am I to tell you what to enjoy?

[@hugohugo37]

People often scoff at Chinese quality but just compare any of these watches (or the watches from the last video) with the MoonSwatch people were lined up for. I actually find it kind of insulting that Swatch feels they can offer so little spec wise . Also the unserviceable sistem 51 type movements are creeping into Tissots too. Quality is out of fashion or something?

[@hugohugo37]

@@Org80 I suppose but I wonder how many Swatch group parts come from those same factories.

[@fr4120]

From what I could find moonswatch are made in La Chaux-de-Fonds, CH. so it looks like these are Swiss made. However Swatch fully achieved their goal with these moonswatches, with maybe low profit but definitely won on marketing

[@stevebennett7783]

No, but these Chinese "Homage" watches are just are as close to being legal fakes as they are allowed to produce. Until they start making watches from thier own designs, people will treat them as such.

[@richardshaw1968]

Quite right quality is down to quality control and specifications, doesn’t matter where it is made. Unserviceable movements are nothing to with quality, sustainability though is a different matter….

[@traviswalker8933]

@@fr4120 the Omega name did its job in this case. People considered Swatches to be trash quality but that name is what attracted them.

[@Mrcxlixo]

San Martin's quality may be well above average, but the prices also follow. An example, watch #8 you’ve reviewed (SN067) in Portugal it costs €265. For that amount I prefer to buy a Seestern whose price is below €100 or a Pagani Design whose difference in some cases is more than €120. I agree, the San Martin can even have a better finish but it is still a homage watch and that doesn't justify the difference between other brands, in my opinion.

[@bestboy897]

My fave is defo the 39mm explorer in tiff blue

[@MichaelV89]

I like the Bell&Ross homage, with no date and second markers, maybe my second San Martin, the first was the salmon dial with jubilee bracelet, SN0050-G with the orient YN55.

[@bensynewsshoedown4999]

Clone Force t-shirt reinforces strong cloning (and manufacturing) skills of San Martin.

[@MrDanielmahaniel]

The Bell & Ross homage is right up my alley. I have a small wrist though, so more research will be conducted. I love the BR 05 series though, that bracelet it just stunning. Like you though, I can’t justify paying $5000 for a B&R right now. Might be one for me in the future.

[@nickfoster3637]

Jody this question is for you or anyone? Just purchased the new Pagani Design GMT with the new Seiko NH34. Are the hands the same size as the NH35 movement. I would like to put a pair of snowflake hands on it. Tudor GMT/ Rolex look

[@armaghanrayyan]

Jody you should check the Sugess Air Command Homage and the SM fleiger

[@philke30]

Are the Epson movements the same company as Epson printers etc?

[@mltain39]

They're a subsidiary of the same company, they make the movements for Orient watches.

[@prospect_joe9813]

surprised by the lack of bronze options. They are really pushing out a lot of bronze case options lately, it seems. I have a Oris 65 homage from steeldrive and it's okay, but I really like the bronze case.

[@websnail]

Love the square ones an the Tudor ranger with its non Tudor hands

[@hattyfarbuckle]

Pity the SN0027 on the website is only one option - the bezel with the minute markers between 0 and 15 unlike the cleaner bezel on Jody's sample

[@HAL-xy3om]

Looks like I'm gonna have to pull the plug and get one of those San Martin everyone is talking about.

[@MrSpenceju]

Great video, there’s also a 36mm version of the explorer series which Is good if you have a smaller wrist

[@richardshaw1968]

San Martin is a bit of a challenge… almost pricing itself above AliExpress but due to the homages is very unlikely to be carried by a high street jewellery shop, where it would do well…

[@abhikroy4530]

can anyone tell how can i order these watches in india aliexpress dosen't ship these to india

[@samayoa95]

I hope you don't mind Jody, but I indexed this Vid for you. 1. SN0027 1:46 Titanium Non-homage 2. SN006 3:19 Tudor Submariner 3. SN0101 5:03 Vintage Patek Philippe 4. SN0026. 6:35 Non-homage GMT 5. SN0105 8:17 Longines Heritage Military 6. SN020. 9:49 Rolex Explorer 7. SN0074 11:36 Pale blue Bell & Ross 8. SN067 13:32 Doxa 600T 9. SN0107 14:56 Tudor Ranger 10. SN0065 16:47 Panerai Radiomir California Dial

[@felixangellopezalonso3993]

The elephant in the room with San Martin is that the day they wants make original designs they dragging the stigma of copycat brand and the people then thinking where is saving costs if they spending paying a designer.

[@lassejupin6684]

My SN006 had a winding gear that stopped working after a week!!!! Pt 5000 is not to be trusted. Pure crap

[@hiltonr1845]

Yeah first

[@JustOneMoreWatch]

Boom! Ten points to Hilton.

[@davidcameron6892]

First

[@JustOneMoreWatch]

Well, almost.... 🤣 8.8521 points

[@grahambawden4060]

Nice selection Jody but can't help noticing the prices which are becoming very non Aliexpress sale level. I suppose with the finish and quality that you get with San Martin it's to be exected. So many choices to spend the hard earned cash on. Great video as always Jody.👍⌚😎

[@richardwarren2024]

Agree. These seem to be well finished but theyre not that great of a deal.

[@allankato135]

Sorry Jody, have to say my experience with the S M customer service has left me being very angry towards them. They’re not the best finished at all. I had nothing but trouble with it. Bezel out of alignment, cyclops off, screw pins wouldn’t budge and broke my small screwdriver, they sent a new bracelet, denying and ignoring the other issues, with factual photos showing all issues clearly, the end links wouldn’t fit into the lugs. I’m still fighting with them about it. They’re not all that at all! Don’t bother guys.

[@Shintsu2]

TETO, my experiences (2 SM watches) have both been good with no issues. My first one was from same store that Jody has linked, second one is from a direct store linked from WUS forums. No issues with either, so I did not have to deal with the customer service but I disagree about statement on the finish, they are very well finished. Sounds like you got a bad one.

[@Sakomaru707]

God damn, I would love to be fine with owning knock-off watches. It would be so easy to get a good looking collection, but I presonally find it disrespectful to the original designers and just can’t convince myself. No judging, these watches obviously don’t really hurt anyone EDIT: No flex intended, I dont own all the Rolexes and even Longines watches in the world. Just an honest opinion

[@tempestandacomputer6951]

Don't let ego disguise itself in self-righteousness:)

[@Sakomaru707]

@@tempestandacomputer6951 Possible. Also don’t get me wrong, I don’t own hyper-luxury watches that I can simply afford, my most expensive one is under 1k$. I didn’t intend to flex

[@jeffreygoss8109]

The problem isn’t with the quality of the watch it is the service. San Martin cannot be reached for issues then they drag it out until Ali Express steps in and drags it’s feet. I returned a watch 10 weeks ago and still haven’t been refunded. It is all “ it is in customs”. Well that is a you problem. I’m out a watch and the return shipping for the wrong watch. 🤦‍♂️

[@elviskurti1]

I bought the 36 mm Smiths Explored, I’ll get the 39 mm Tiffany dial explorer from San Martin Jody. I think you can’t go wrong with that.

[@thadeusbaggins9967]

Yes, San Martin offers great quality for the money. However, their customer service does not live up to the relatively high prices they charge. If you have any issues with the watch, they won't stand behind it at all, and you'll be out quite a bit of money.

[@johnrb9397]

Ah the old Jody trick pull out the old USD when we are discussing prices ;)

[@JustOneMoreWatch]

Always. Unless I'm trying to make something seem expensive, then I talk in AUD 😜

[@nakazatotakeshi4286]

We have been blessed with two chinese specials videos this weekend. What a time to be alive

[@drumpf7721]

If San Martin made a SMP 300 homage complete with scalloped bezel, wavy ceramic dial, red logo text, BGW9 on most parts except for C3 on the minute hand and lume pip, date at the 6, a 12 marker exactly like the SMP 300, and made it so there’s far less up/down bezel play, I would buy ten of them.

[@batmansk6]

None of these have any business being as expensive as they are

[@WATCHingJames]

Great video as always

[@ryanpeck3377]

Ive got a couple San Martin’s. Amazing quality for the price....my only problem with SM is that once you order a watch a new updated version is released right after 😂 .... and sometimes i like the features or looks of a prior version but then its no longer available.

[@DouglasRosser]

San Martin's Tudor Ranger clomage is much better looking than their Explorer IMHO. Also looks like they will produce a version in 36mm too!

[@Ian-dd5dm]

Top work there, time to grab a bargain in the sales and plenty of choice with the last 2x days vids. I don't have a San Martin as yet but the pressure is building. Great mini reviews.

[@kennkingg]

I’m with you on the Ranger homage, I’ve been in love with the new Ranger every since I saw it but I thought I was the only one that liked it. According to most reviewers videos they said it was ugly! Can you believe that load of BS?

[@pktsqr]

It's almost literally the only Tudor I've ever considered buying. In fact, I'd kiiiinda decided to actually start trying to budget for one, even though it isn't remotely a practical decision. But now there's one with functionally indestinguishable finishing, for 10% of the price? I face a dilemma!

[@Cloxxki]

San Martin: How many watches will you review for the next sponsored video? Jody: Yes.

[@0040636bf109e]

Enjoyable video Jody, for advice which would you choose for a Tudor BB homage, Chronos or San Martin?

[@SideWalkAstronomyNetherlands]

Just got the San Martin SN0107-G, great little watch, only problem, the band is too short, a common problem with Asian watches, need 24-25 cm, get only 19..., child sized :( and NO you cannot buy loose links :( So been trying for weeks now sending e-mails etc...customer service any one??? HOW HARD CAN IT BE??

[@jasonwb6884]

Jebus San Martin, how many ETA clones you using. Hangzhou, PT5000, Segull ST. Just stick with S11 movements from Seiko, Or Miyota movements. Never had a epson movement watch. I have had bad luck with Chinese made ETA clones (not Swiss quality). If you want Swiss precision go with a Swiss made movement like Selitta, ETA (if you can find them), etc.

[@HarryFlashmanVC]

I'm looking for a black explorer in 39mm oyster to replace my old Smiths Everest 40mm which I stupidly sold a few years ago. I have the Smiths Everest Expedition in 37mm in cream, the Sir Vivian Fuchs Commonwealth Trans Antarctic Expedition replica made by Timefactors which is wonderful, I want a black one but availability is tough and as a result the watches sell for 50% plus more on the 2nd hand market than they do from Timefactors. So that Tudor Ranger looks perfect

[@rokoculina6615]

I just don't get it.They have machinery,movement's...they are making solid watches...why hommages? Is there no one in that firm who could desing something...jesus...employ someone...

[@sebastianwar7936]

How San Martin dearer than some of the well known Japanese brand? SN0101 is like AUD $300+; that's crazy expensive.

[@STP-777]

Over 250 $ I can easily buy a very nice Seiko or Citizen with great specs. Plus serious brand name and worldwide guarantee. Must be idiot to spend over 250 $ for a Chinese clone watch without any service behind. Doesn’t matter how shiny or square it is. It’s still just a Chinese clone and nobody wants it on the second hand market except you sell it for a quarter of it’s initial price. No surprise San Martin uses Jody to motivate potential customers. Looks like they do not sell their watches in volume any more.

[@magnuspedersen2640]

I wish that SM wouldn't make some many "homages". Since it's very appearent, that they do quality work. Why not focus that energy to remove themselves from that way of business?

[@bestboy897]

Great vid fam

[@paulosirioevangelista5159]

Amigos, a tempos procuro o relógio Parnis Marina Militare Goliath 50mm (Homage Luminor Panerai Equation) Alguém poderia me ajudar. Obrigado!

[@UnknownUser-rb9pd]

Best finished watches for less than $500 ? Does that mean they are better finished than Casio Oceanus watches ? You'll be banned from the Casio Admirers Club.

[@petroscoins5807]

Nice presentation, beautiful watches but will cost me another 20% shipped from China better buy a Seiko or an Orient from a local distributor.

[@andresgonzalezcerda7635]

Many thanks. I really like san martins, but the lack of replacement parts is a deal breaker. I have 62 mas like, and the glass just broke while was on my storage case!! No way to get a replacement glass, wich is the entire soul of this watch. I tried on alyexpres San Martín store, and they ask me a picture but then disappeared.

[@carlkim2577]

I placed an order for the sn0027-t3. I've been wanting a titanium watch and getting a grade 5 version is hard to find. Especially at this price lvl.

[@pmcg7823]

Some nicely styled ones, but bargains, definitely not. Sorry Jodi you have just become a mouthpiece of the Chinese watch industry and it's getting a bit stale.

[@fmkrowa]

Got an SN047, date non functional.. my first and maybe my last. The portents are poor and a new one is on the way but cost me $60 to ship back!

[@mikebirkett010]

A GMT (an GMT?) without a date is rather like a pencil without a lead..... Pointless!

[@drzaius844]

If you don’t have a bronze diver, the CuSn 8 is a BB58 bronze knockoff at $285, a no brainer.

[@fpmtube]

Buy at your own risk. Bought a SM from the official store and never received the watch. Consumer service is non existent, if anything goes wrong there's no one to help.

[@ChrisJohnson-yw2ky]

I've been wearing a $7 Paw Patrol children's toy watch for a week now. It's been a hilarious time.

[@williamwallace9427]

The ones that aren’t knock offs are ok. The “homages” are just another term for cheap Chinese knock offs and we all know it. Have some self respect before putting one on

[@1stamendmentmedia464]

I "almost" despise the date on a watch. If someone has a hard time knowing the current date, I'm not really sure how said person even navigates life.

[@Beck-Stein]

Aliexpress watches are equal to microbrands with the exception of the swiss made ones like laventure.

[@MrKacperk]

Don't think so. My San Martin GMT blows my Steinhart GMT Classic 39 out of the water. For half the price.

[@Beck-Stein]

@@MrKacperk is it truly that good? I personally think steinhart parts are chinese.

[@MrKacperk]

@@Beck-Stein quality wise they're not bad but all their dials are flat (no applied indices), bezels are stiff and clasp is garbage.

[@Keeperofthekey13]

In the 50’s & 60’s everyone used to scoff at Japanese electronic components…. that is until the world realised that Japan were producing the best on the planet. I think the higher end Chinese mechanical watch movements are likewise underrated & undervalued. I have several in my collection & had no cause to regret any of the purchases. Sam Martin watches are themselves, becoming a name to be noticed. Some great choices here. Thanks Jody.

[@Johnmk24]

Excellent video. I’m a “middle of the road” type collector. Typically Tissot, & Swiss-made Invicta budget & quality. I have been intrigued by San Martin, since discovering this channel. You presented these watches thoughtfully & fairly. Much appreciated.

[@TheDonCucaracho]

That Tudor homage would be my perfect GADA watch if it were a 36mm. I need me a small sports watch

[@unwokeneuropean3590]

I like to have 38mm sports watch and 36mm dress watch.

[@TheDonCucaracho]

@@unwokeneuropean3590 i have a vintage Citizen with an integrated bracelet design. It's a 32mm diameter, 40mm lug to lug and that one spoiled me. It wears amazingly well and I'd love to have modern equivalent

[@zenwheel8299]

Over priced Chinese watches, they aren't worth they are charging.

[@HarryFlashmanVC]

That SN0065 looks very like the Gruppo Gammas

[@PhilipBallGarry]

My favourite? Definitely the SN0074-G. It's a bit different, in a nice way. The lack of minute markers give it a more relaxed vibe when you're not clock-watching. Yes please Santa🎅, I'll have one, thank you 👍

[@tomasinacovell4293]

Has Alpha been improving their watches with this type of competition?

[@chuckdukie4243]

The San Martin 62 mas chrono. Why don’t you review that?

[@SideWalkAstronomyNetherlands]

Don't want a triangle at the 12, I want a 12, I hope they will change that..

[@gorankis9801]

How about 1953 submariner homage??

[@Geoduck.]

Number 9, the Ranger style SNO107 is in my cart. Love that dial perfect size. I do very much like that vintage pilot watch. Those blue hands and simple design is sweet.

[@whereisvanuatu]

I would buy the GMT if it had a different clasp and crown.

[@rodneyclarke6477]

Just purchased & received No:5 and it's one of the few instances when I've purchased a watch that's it actually looks better in person than online.Thanks once again Jody. Keep up the good work.

[@bradyyyyyyy11]

I have an updated SN0107-G-X in 36mm with BGW-9 and no fauxtina. It’s absolutely fantastic. It wears a little bigger, than 36mm suggests, but if anyone is in the market for an explorer style watch I can’t recommend it enough. I’m very happy with the NH35 in it. Low cost and high reliability is always a plus. Great go anywhere do anything tool watch. The finishing is spectacular, bracelet excellent, and sapphire gorgeous. You can’t go wrong with it

[@carlos92azevedo]

You really need to try and review the SN0075 GB

[@turbyoulance]

Thanks so much for your Tireless work Jody. Some great looking watches there in this U tube video.

[@lacanian_lifter]

Of course our man Jody is a Patrician Bad Batch enjoyer

[@justrajdeep]

Not a single watch with day/date complication :(

[@scholbus]

3 and 10 are very good watches, i guess.

[@claytonberg721]

video request, best ali express chronographs?

[@nicks8026]

Great! More copy watches. 😐 I think Jody is one of the best watch presenters/reviewers on YT but I can no longer tacitly support shilling for companies that generate profits off stolen designs. Reluctantly unsubscribing.

[@JustOneMoreWatch]

Just One Less Sub. You don't have to watch all the videos mate. They have titles for a reason, but hey, it is up to you. All the best!

[@younusimam-thesalamproject6340]

I wish more brands would try using the Seagull ST3600 which clones the ETA 6497. Beautiful handwind movement, built to last. Some Fliegers, Parnis' and Panerai homages out there but not enough brands are using it.

[@whereisvanuatu]

Thank you for the heads up! Good news is Baltany are also using it, so I might end up having a chance to experience it.

[@NathanChisholm041]

@@whereisvanuatu Baltany are making some pretty cool watches.

[@younusimam-thesalamproject6340]

@@whereisvanuatu thank you! Would love to see a review

[@claytonberg721]

The TGV tax is dead. The Jody San Martin tax is very much alive. These have gone up in price. I'm waiting for them to make an NH34 GMT master II. That square watch would have been a buy it now situation if not for the integrated bracelet.

[@garychowhm]

The shark at the caseback is a NO NO😢

[@lookmanostrings]

Timestamps, pretty please? :)

[@Ramblin_Man]

That Tiffany looks so good.

[@johnlacroix1639]

TY,,,,,,WOW incredible very interesting super kool ,1st class great info.,, AAAAAAAAAAA++++++++++++ again great video I liked it a lot ,keep up the great work.

[@holtmoore5313]

All are very tempting.

[@alwaysgoclockwise6019]

I have the San Martin Ranger you reviewed here and I agree. It’s a keeper and so beautifully proportioned. It’s my favourite right now.

[@junwoojang2941]

I ordered the SN006-G2, the tudor submariner homage. I couldn't find any for a decent price, all exceeding well over $600. SM is willing to do custom logo and supply a quality watch for under $400. I had to go for it.

[@hodko37]

I want them all

[@blakeblackwelder1209]

What is that book shelf

[@CCOW1776]

I know how much you like San Martin watches. I agree that they are beautiful watches and a terrific value, but I question their business practices and customer service. I purchased two Seagul ST3621 movements from them through AliExpress. They shipped out in a timely manor but there were problems with the delivery. The package would not clear customs because they declared a lower value than the actual package. I don't know about you, but I consider that fraud. They were, at first refusing to fix the problem they created, passing that responsibility off on me. It took quite a bit of back and forth to get them to accept responsibility and fix the problem they created. I feel that the company, although they make beautiful watches, are dishonest and have terrible customer service. To make matters worse, they shipped two incomplete ST3621 movements. They didn't include the hour wheel, dial washer and mounting hardware shown on Seagull's website. This makes the movements useless. I am asking you to consider my experience when recommending these watches. Please feel free to contact me for any additional information. By the way, I love your channel and have been subscribed for a few months.

[@kevinc1001]

I'm waiting for these AliExpress brands to start using Citizen's 'true' GMT movements with a 24 click bi-directional bezels

[@neli5p]

First watch out the box and not only is it gorgeous .... its 43mm. YES!!!!! (Goes rapidly downhill after though!!!)

[@fieldwalker]

PT5000 and Seagull - I feel like I'm best to absolutely avoid any Chinese movement. Do you also prefer a base seiko NHxx instead, if you have the option?

[@Nefville]

Umm Jody, just between us, I went almost this entire video thinking your shirt said "The Bad B!tch" 🤣🤣

[@oktc68]

Be very wary about buying from San Martin's AliExpress store. They will take your money and you may or may not receive your order. Appalling service, endless " be patient" while the window to return if unsatisfactory runs out and slams in your face. Overpriced compared to other Chinese brands that don't mess about and have their products delivered to the UK typically within 10-15 days. Avoid San Martin would be my advice.