Ohh I love this pattern! | Mystery Pattern | Just Vintage Crochet

[@justvintagecrochet]

Here is a quick video addressing the Row/Round concerns, Thanks! kzbin.info/www/bejne/ene8gX1pm66Woac Ok, Hi, A lot of you are wondering if I was supposed to work in rows and not rounds ( back then a lot of patterns just used row for both) , and I hear you , Im happy to learn as I 100% do not know everything when it comes to these old patterns, if you could make this along with me but in rows from a half circle ( as has been suggented) , please email me the pictures and I will share them on the community post page so we can all see where I messed up, I truly believe that this is a square shawl that is meant to be folded in half as was the most popular style throughout the victorian and edwardian eras , but if you see someing I did not , please share , Thanks so much!!

[@thelibraryismyhappyplace1618]

Hi there. The video linked above shows as private. The shawls in my mother's (born in the early 1940s) pattern books / magazines were usually square and folded into a triangle, or they were rectangles worn as a wrap. I think this is a square shawl too, and the picture shows a corner of the shawl

[@GoldenAstroCat]

The first row of long stitches says join but the others don't. Is it worked in rows back and forth after row one to form a sort of circular shawl with 4 corners? The link above doesn't work 😢

[@jenreeves7684]

The link didn't work 🤔

[@kayceegreer4418]

​​@@GoldenAstroCat See the comment above yours and it will explain that it is likely, According to the way it was back then, worked in a square and then folded in half And worn as a triangle But that does not explain how she made hers in a square mistakenly but as the person in the comment that I referred to says if the first Ross has joined but all the other ones don't that means that you pay more attention to the halfway point and start building your make your entire row but you don't join it. I don't think as was suggested that it is made in a square and folded as a triangle. That does not compute I think I'm right here.

[@kayceegreer4418]

​@@jenreeves7684 Refer to the comment on the comment above this one and the 1 above that and you will find that patterns back then were usually worked in a square and then fold it in half however she worked her in a square and it doesn't look anything like the pattern so go figure. But there is a clue the first Rose has to join and the other Rose don't but that would still leave you with this medallion and and I don't really see how the rows Would work except that you go all the way around but don't join. And definitely pay attention to when you would be at about the halfway point and what it says to do there so that you can make increases but that are joined toheather I don't know if that would be a called a decrease because I don't read patterns but you know how to make a corner right so just do that at the halfway point and that will be your point.

[@audreydeneui192]

Turns out, there are no vintage crochet police to come and charge you for deciding to use an antique shawl pattern to make a bedspread. 😆That's why the pattern is open ended. YOU decide how big you need the project to be and YOU decide how much yarn you want to use. You could also change colors! Lovely pattern! I have enjoyed these mystery crochet videos!

[@TruckinCrochet]

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[@elishagreen2954]

I've done! Used a shawl pattern for a baby blanket ❤

[@marywrigjt7614]

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[@sharonpeek4578]

@@elishagreen2954 I used a baby blanket pattern to make a bedspread. LOL! (the name of the pattern I used is "the midwife blanket")

[@olduglyentwife5700]

@@sharonpeek4578 Must have been meant for a very small midwife!

[@SusieQ3]

I've worked patterns that call for placing a stitch between the posts, but not actually in the stitch. In most modern patterns, to eliminate confusion, pattern makers usually put a *ch 1 in the previous round* to work into, but many older patterns didn't do that. What you did was correct. I'll defend your decision. And anyone that says that you shouldn't just make it work, is not doing you any favors. Do they really think 200+ years ago, women wouldn't have been as equally confused and just made it work? Of course they would have! Your ability to make work what is very unclear is a majority of why I love these mystery pattern videos! Merry Christmas! I can't wait to see what next year's mystery patterns are!

[@crowznest438]

If your finished sample is folded, it has the same pattern rows as the shawl in the picture. I don't know when triangles for shawls became common but squares that were folded to triangles in that period and before were very common.

[@Crochetedbymichi]

I can’t believe only 2 left!!!! 😮❤ I have enjoyed this series so much!

[@thevintagedrive6509]

I love vintage & antique knitting & crochet patterns - your videos are great! Have you ever considered putting a book together that talks about the difference in patterns, tools, and materials throughout the years? That needs to exist!

[@maryualemm]

I loved the fact you are using Anne cotton yarn for this pattern, since I'm Brazilian and that's a very famous brand from Brazil! It's pronounced as the proper name "Anne", many yarns from this brand have feminine names. The brand name just means "circle" in portuguese. It was such a nice surprise. That yarn is really nice indeed. Love your videos.

[@justvintagecrochet]

So cool!

[@fadedrose100]

The way you made it looks like a fancy version of a granny square. Very nice!

[@MiaMinx100]

Yes, this is very pretty, and from what I just researched, your choice of yarn is the correct size. You also could have used a fingering or sock-weight yarn. Two other notes: Based upon the photos that I have access to, Victorians and Edwardians almost always created their shawls as a square or circle, and we them folding half for maximum warm. They also would large square shawls and use them as receiving blankets from babies, so you're desire to make this large enough to use as a bedspread isn't off the mark either.

[@VelvetRainFairy]

now i have to see it made into bedspread.😂😂it looks cute as a shawl but im loving the idea more of it being made to be draped over a bed.

[@sidmelucci3675]

That "long stitch' is quite interesting. I'm not sure whether to think of it as a half-treble or a double-and-a-half. When I saw the illustration, I thought it looked cut off at the top. I wonder if it was meant to be worn folded, but they photographed it flat to show the stitches more clearly.

[@3rdand105]

There's a video for a shawl pattern here, dated 1865 (if memory serves), and that was a square folded in half on the diagonal (also if memory serves). Given the fineness of the yarn, the hook size used, and the trend in fashion at the time, it would not surprise me that this was also meant to be folded.

[@ShadowsOfMoonlight]

Don't know if anyone chimed in with this already, but I think when they say "through both loops of the stitch between the 6th and the 7th" -- they mean what we'd consider working the stitch as normal, i.e. through the top v of the stitch (the top "two" loops") and NOT just fully between the stitches like the shell/fan was. This would help "anchor" the singular double crochet better, maybe, and minimize bulk at the base of that stitch. The rest of the lone double crochets would be worked in our modern "normal way" too so it would match that pattern. I also agree that the shawl is worked in the round (square) and folded in half when worn - and the photograph looks cut off at about the halfway point, probably as other people observed to show off the stitches better!

[@christinaczarnecki625]

I think "through both loops " as opposed to through back loop ! Lovely pattern !

[@justvintagecrochet]

But we don't work through any loops in this pattern, we only work between stitches. I truly believe it was just a mis-type , and that's ok, we all do it lol

[@carlrichter7803]

I think it would be fun and interesting if you could find the patterns for the crochet things that Laura Ingalls Wilder mentioned in her books

[@JD-ht4wn]

Oh I would love that!!

[@JillyMae89]

Made it to 70k!! I've seen it creep up every day, congrats!!

[@crossfittxms1]

Thank you for all your hard work. I am new to crochet 🧶 I was trying to learn what the stitches were & I found a video that said the names of each stitch. She said that the stitch you showed was the “extended double crochet stitch.” But, I think 🤔 that some people may call it one name & others call it something else. I am learning tons from from you. Vintage Crochet Mystery Patterns is A Stop 🛑 what you’re doing & plant 🪴 yourself to your channel…!

[@justvintagecrochet]

Thank you , Now it's called an extended dc, but it started off being called a long , this stitch goes back to the 1880s Just like the " granny stitch" , the stitch we commonly use in granny squares, that was called the VanDyke when it was created in the 1840s Stitch names always change :)

[@crossfittxms1]

@@justvintagecrochetSooo Cool 😎 I didn’t know that! Thank you ❤

[@BlessedBaubles]

@@justvintagecrochetIsn’t that so sweet and helpful when the names keep changing? NOT! Lol You did great on this one again. You do stellar work every time. I laughed so hard when you said, “ I feel like I’m having a 3rd grade moment where I’m reading in front of the whole class.” 😂 Putting yourself out there isn’t easy. But you are so talented and have such an adorable personality, that even the knit pickers (or in this case, the crochet pickers 😂) can’t find a place here. You’re just too marvelous. 👍🏼😁

[@3rdand105]

I think I've unlocked a couple of possibilities using worsted weight yarn. I suggest Red Heart Super Saver as opposed to the Caron One Pound (my go-to); I chose this given the suggested hook sizes (the 5.5mm hook is ideal). Starting the 3rd round, I realized this is a lovely variation of the granny square, so it could be made into a throw, with all sorts of color options (it doesn't have to be one solid color). The only problem may be joining the squares, as this is clover-shaped. If you only work four rounds, you have yourself a mug rug, again with a range of color options. I got a kick out of the fact that you get a square in the middle, rather than the usual circle. I don't know how that happened, but I'm glad it did. Looking forward to Pattern #7!

[@kathyhinkle9644]

The term shawl was also used for baby blankets such as christening blankets. So this pattern may be for that instead of what we perceive as a shawl now.

[@batbratsdesigns]

I love your channel. ❤ I can't get enough. Your nails are lovely too. I love that your nails are dressed up in most of your videos. I am handicapped so I can't do anything with long nails. I would have finger crochet hooks if I had long nails, they would definitely get stuck in my yarn. 😂 I used to do my own nails but I kept getting scratches and I ended up with an infection from a scratch and my doctor told me it would be better if I trim my nails. At least I don't look like wolverine hugged me anymore. 😂

[@SewardWriter]

I wonder if it's possible to make fingertip crochet hooks. Or hook gloves a la the claws on Michelle Pfeiffer Catwoman's gloves.

[@justvintagecrochet]

Thank you so much! OMG finger crohet hook for nails! we need to make that a thing!! :)

[@snospmoht3252]

@@justvintagecrochet I don't know...ya know how sore your wrists and hands get when you've crocheted a lot...just think how sore you'd be if your fingers had to move as much as your hook does too. 🤔

[@roniboyd613]

I agree - bedspread will be pretty❤ You can make it in one piece or, make squares and sew together!

[@SusieQ3]

I have a baby due in April. This may be the blanket I make.

[@SewardWriter]

​@@SusieQ3Mazel tov! 💖

[@devils.advocate2354]

Sassy sassy 🤣 agree bed spread instead of shawl. Can’t believe that bowl down to one pattern left… bitter sweet 🧡

[@adelacoburn1396]

Hello Corinna... I love your version, so much prettier than what was in the photo. Thank you for video 🧶🧶🧶

[@justvintagecrochet]

Thank you! 😊

[@adelacoburn1396]

👵🏼You're welcome @@justvintagecrochet

[@rosemarycreollo4326]

That's very pretty! I agree that it isn't a very pretty shawl. A worsted weight throw or a thinner bedspread - yes. I was never a fan of loose stitches in fine work, but that's because when I worked that loose it looked awful!!! Your work is very even! Heading over to see your changes! Thank you for an awesome tutorial!

[@justvintagecrochet]

Oh, Thank you so muc :)

[@cyndihuber2456]

I love your content. I have been making vintage crochet items for about 20 years. Some work out beautifully while others need just a little tweaking. I so I enjoy doing these projects with you. I have my yarn ready to go and when you make a boo-boo I want to call you on the phone and say no no no no no. It's very fun, very fun. Thank you for your time and energy. Hugs from Florida 🌈☀️

[@paulaortega3756]

"You should already know what I mean" pattern - love it!

[@lorriewhite7886]

I absolutely love the way you have crocheted it! It very much reminds me of an early virus blanket or maybe even a shells blanket.

[@melissaparsons741]

Virus blanket?

[@lorriewhite7886]

@@melissaparsons741 yes it’s beautiful and easy to do. Just google virus blanket tutorial on KZbin. You’ll love it!

[@beck1737]

O I just finished my very first shawl with the Long stitches as a boarder , so pretty.. Cant wait to visit 1985

[@Pammy_Yolo]

I think you could make it anything you want it to be! Anway, it's gorgeous!

[@nanasbabies58]

Love that crochet bag for your hooks! Would you mind sharing where you purchased it?

[@elishagreen2954]

Be sassy! I love it! ❤

[@bettyg9707]

I laughed when I saw the picture. 😂 I do love yours more, too.

[@marybell5634]

I think a bedspread would be absolutely beautiful. Just continue repeat until you reach the size you want...or make a bunch of the pattern and connect. Oh this would be a beautiful tablecloth as well. So many different things that you can make with this. ❤❤❤ Thank you for sharing. I love these mystery patterns. 😊

[@lauriekurad]

I think it 'us' folded into a Triangle. If you look at the long edge, on each side it is a bit straight, which is there because of the curve of the 'corners'. When folded, the two folded corners are a bit straight before coming down to the bottom. I had a shaw that was old and lacey, and it was to be folded in half or as a square just bunched a bit when wrapped around the neck... Hence a ""wrap". I would use a slightly heavier thread if making a bedspread. Either is beautiful !

[@carolynhunter8582]

Hi I love jour channel when you wondered if this pattern should be worked in round or row I think you will find very old shawls were worked in the round and folded when worn as I have bought some from second hand stores over the years the more modern one were made as triangles I think

[@Grmstrs4evr]

We now call the long crochet stitch an extended double-crochet.

[@lindasmann8264]

I love your idea it would make a beautiful bedspread

[@ReallyJillRogoff]

Very pretty - much prettier than the photo. Will have to try it.

[@mf-qi8gn]

Pretty design!

[@donnasqueaky2]

I'd love to have it a bedspread. The shawl is weird. I've been doing a Turkish shawl pattern that uses lots of long double and treble stitches. I love them. The shawl is a bit complicated because it's a 10 row repeat. The tutorial is in a Turkish dialect (somewhat Arabic?).

[@PamsCraftyheart]

❤ I agree it would make a prettier bedspread or a throw for your couch or chair. It is very beautiful though. ❤😊

[@BeaTheBear28]

The shawl picture plot twist at the end was amazing

[@kywire._]

You may have addressed this on stream and I missed it, but it looks to me like they cropped the photo! You couldn't see the starting circle in the picture because it's cut off, and same with the top edge of the image -- you can't see the edge of the work as if it were worked into a triangle. It looks like they did work it in the round as a square, laid it flat for the photo, and then cropped the photo to show it as a triangle. I would guess you did it right, and they want you to fold it over to make a triangular shawl. You're right!

[@christy8130]

I've never heard of a long stitch before. I so enjoy watching these. I saw in the directions, to do 1 DC, I think maybe you did a cluster? I'm no expert for sure. I love your sass!😊

[@lesamess5685]

I love your story. The fact that time changes words. I love crochet. Thank you

[@ellaina5005]

Feels like we're coming to the end of the first season of your Mystery Crochet Pattern show! It's been so fun, I hope it wasn't too annoying or took too much out of you to make. Thanks so much for sharing.

[@jennifertalwar6099]

I think that is mean the loop between the stitches and not stitch, but you did end up doing it the way I assumed as well. I think it could be one of those couch shawls maybe, the one that was used at the top near where the head would be. But I like the curtain and duvet blanket better

[@marionbartley214]

Hello Corrina, I like this week's item made, even if you would prefer it to be a bedspread. I agree with you I think it would make a lovely bedspread also. Great job Thanks for the video. Looking forward to the next one.

[@rynnlemieux5339]

Is it possible that the pic above the pattern goes to a different pattern? You have books that mix it up like that.

[@thelibraryismyhappyplace1618]

It looks like the correct pic for the pattern. The picture shows one corner of the (square) shawl. Only the middle of the shawl was worked in the video. Once more rows are worked pattern will be more apparent, and of course the border row will finish off the edge. Just like working a granny square or a doily, the first few rounds don't look much like anything 😊 and then a few rounds later it starts to come together

[@marybell5634]

I love the idea of a bed spread. It would be beautiful.

[@sdmcdaniel2255]

I think I'm a little late to the party, but I just recently found your vintage crochet. I think it's fabulous that you are giving these antique patterns a try! I was curious about this long stitch at the beginning, but when you explained how to do it, I realized that the stitch you were using was the extended double crochet (I think the abbreviation is exdc). Apparently, this is a stitch that was lost for a while, then brought back. I've seen a lot of modern patterns using extended sc's, dc's and even a few extended tc's! I thought they were new stitches, but I guess not! Intriguing! As for working in rounds or rows: I was following the pattern closely, and one thing I did NOT see... it NEVER told you to turn your work. It also told you to join when you did row (round 1), but I didn't see any mention of joining after the first row (round). If the pattern had NOT said to join at the first round... then I would have assumed it would mean to work in rows. Because it DID say to join at the end of the first row (round) I initially thought it was meant to work in the round. It never mentions turning the work, but it also doesn't say to join (that I saw) after the first row (round). I also noticed it didn't actually tell you to make that first chain three at the beginning of each new row (round). I'm wondering how it would have turned out if you had not joined at the end of each row (round) and had turned to go back the other way. I have some thin yarn like that... I might play around with this a little, to see what I come up with. The one thing that puts it all into perspective, is the fact that the pattern distinctly mentions corners. Each row (round) has 4 corners, which leads me to believe it IS supposed to be worked in the round and joined at the end of each round. I think you are correct that it's supposed to be a triangular shawl that's folded in half. That's the only way I can see this pattern working, now that I take the time to think about it. I think it's a beautiful pattern! I think it would make a lovely, lacy tablecloth! Or, if you could figure out how to make it in rows, instead of in the round, you could turn into lacy curtains. You could even make two of them, sew up the sides, and make a beautiful overshirt to go over a tank top or camisole. I could even possibly see it as a lovely skirt, if you could figure out how to do the conversion. Such and intriguing pattern!

[@daphnepride1534]

I think it is folded in half. If you look at the top of the photo, the picture is only showing part of the rows. But I agree, it would make a great bedspread. May work on making blocks from the pattern,

[@LennyLefebvre-qb6qx]

I love this long stitch!! I’m not a fan of trebles and sometimes they are too tall for what I want to do. Thank you, very few crocheters teach me as much as you.

[@crazyaboutbirds1]

I wonder if it works up from the bottom too. I did a shawl similar a few years ago just like that, just a different pattern. Love your work! Everyday I look for new videos from you! Can you tell me where I can get both conversion table/books? Would love to get to get to know you better too 😉

[@KatYoakam]

I like it. I think it could be a lap "shawl".

[@acolley2891]

Looks kinda like a snowflake. Could use as a winter decor.😊

[@BibsTube]

Here in Brazil the círculo brand is very popular. The Anne thread is made from mercerized cotton, and we can find it every where...

[@tara-mckenney1]

Your version is so much prettier. I agree. A bedspread would be lovely.

[@debirobison4077]

The larger hook gives it a lacy look..looks great!!

[@MissKikkiKat]

Oh, I am going to have to use that Edwardian Long stitch when I do my next virus shawl! I would be so lacy and pretty!

[@Summerrainfalling]

I LOVE the sassiness 😍🥰🤩

[@constanza1648]

You did just fine. I do not get the loop around the finger. But it is what it is. I do not know if the issue is, at this size, I cannot properly see the corners as defined as the photo. The photo is too little for me to see the detail. But the pattern is wonderful. Easy and pretty. Very versatile as a little square or as a complete piece.

[@thelibraryismyhappyplace1618]

The loops around the finger was what we would now call a magic loop / magic circle.

[@freezypeeps8311]

FYI, I believe the Edwardian long crochet stitch is now called an Extended double crochet (or extended treble crochet in British terminology). When I first started crochet, I learned the extended version before the normal type, and had no idea there was any other double crochet. I still like them as a size in between the normal double crochet and the treble. Helps make curves more gradual, for example when crocheting leaf shapes, etc.

[@jeanette8943]

these are fascinating. you narrate them so well too

[@lorinapetranova2607]

It took me 6 tries the first time I made a shawl. Sometimes it's weird making a gypsy moth for the first 6 rows. Still think crocheting fancy Barbie gowns is fairly tough. For moi. Many blessings ya'll for a precious n wonderful holiday season . Stay healthy and safe journeys. Sweet crochet deams yall. 😊

[@valerieprice1745]

I liked it from the first round. Really pretty!

[@karenaly5586]

I like yours much better than the picture 😊

[@susanwhalen1034]

Love your idea for bedspread.

[@MistyKittens]

I just started learning again, my Aunt tried to teach me when I was young, since I was inspired by your channel. I’m going to try the 70s learner poncho.

[@annelewis7531]

I love the pattern your way. It's far nicer than the shawl. A couple of years ago I crochet a shawl that started like this but it never entered my head until I read some comments hear.

[@mishellegarrett9243]

Just keepin it real! 😉

[@kaytiej8311]

Isn't this adorable?! I agree. It would be gorgeous even as a throw!

[@deboraharmstrong3002]

Wind the wool....they're making a magic loop!

[@williamh5396]

Is someone using a typewriter in the back ground. I hear that sound in all your videos

[@justvintagecrochet]

It's my central air unit, there is something loose in one of the ducts and so it make that noise when air passed through it

[@kellypettit2660]

Very beautiful pattern, I like your idea of a bedspread but I think I would use it on an entry table as a xtra large doily! I was hoping you were going to finish out the second repeat of rows then do the border stitches. Guess im gonna have to make one now! (lol)

[@doninis1354]

I can see doing a poncho in this style. 2 big squares sewn together, I guess you can repeat this almost ndless. I can see working it with thicker yarn and hook 9 or 10 maybe 12.

[@justvintagecrochet]

omg I love that!!

[@cherifew3485]

The second round of stitches I believe you were to turn and put the stitches of the second round between those stitches you had just worked. A good way to see the pattern is to enlarge you picture on your computer!

[@Summerrainfalling]

Love your crochet hook case! I have the same one 🙂

[@jenreeves7684]

It is a pretty granny square 😊

[@mbvoelker8448]

The photo was probably taken of the single-layer shawl to show the pattern better, but before central heating you really needed the extra layers of the folded square.

[@marydavenport5511]

Why are you all confused? It is clearly intended as a baby shawl, not to be folded, just wrapped around baby. Gorgeous! Maybe Americans don't use the term "shawl" and call this a "baby blanket" instead. Same thing!

[@kathyroskydal]

I want that case

[@chriskaleidoscope]

Is this an incomplete pattern? ❤❤❤ these! ❤ U 2

[@YvonneSowder]

I really like it.

[@elizabethsmith38]

Lovely ❤

[@beckybramlett3515]

Wonderful work !!🥰

[@tonimoore8371]

I agree with you. This would make a great bed spead. I did not care for the shawl....

[@valzahnzahn]

I love finding typos in old patterns. Have one from the 70s or 80s that says to k2 when it should be a k1. The lace patterns would’ve been screwed up if I had followed it how it was written. Makes me want to time travel and talk to someone else following the same patterns to see if they had the same trouble.. wouldn’t that be cool?

[@leereadman9069]

your just wonderful thankyou so much

[@destina3898]

Youre nails are gorgeous did you do them yourself? And how do you get them like that?

[@leahnichol6665]

I am curious how you would make it a rectangle instead of a square?

[@novamcclung5382]

Good job, I kept trying to tell you no when you were getting mixed-up. Like you can hear me, LOL. 😅

[@novamcclung5382]

I hope you finish the bed spread and let us see the result❤

[@annseigman1824]

Whatever 🤷‍♂️ Beautiful pattern! 💓

[@welcomeastheflowersinmay4882]

Very nice stitch pattern! Many of the shawls I have made start in a ring, but they go back and forth in rows, instead of making rounds. I am curious now. I think I am going to have to try it to see if it would make a shawl shape.

[@welcomeastheflowersinmay4882]

Of course it can be whatever you want it to be!

[@tracyprice2814]

I didn’t tell you to join the round so maybe you were suppose to chain up and turn. Just curious if that would have worked out.

[@cherifew3485]

More like fingering yarn. I found a round wooden spoon handle works good for wrapping around it to make the circle,

[@dianescardace3687]

Is it possible that where you are working a double crochet that stitch is a single crochet ?

[@kathyknowlton2242]

I really like your crochet hook case!! May I ask where did you get that?

[@YvonneSowder]

Would like to work this pattern. Is there any way I can get this pattern? Seems interesting.

[@TeaAndFloppyDisks]

It looks like the picture is cropped, so maybe it's only capturing half of the completed item. I think maybe they did that to have a bit more detail showing too. Perhaps this is a square that is meant to be folded in half. But you can absolutely make a bedspread out of it. It's your yarn, your time and your own tastes. :) I might have heard of a long stitch before, but this is the first time I see it. It makes for a slimmer base too, doesn't it?