The Broken State Of 'Support' Characters...

[@bot4x202]

Wanted really the king of yelling “they’re one!” When they’re at like half health lmao.

[@alternatefallacy9474]

One headshot from Widow.

[@contentconsumer3743]

I’m the king of disliking wanted vids

[@TrollGuyy]

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[@fenixspider5776]

if as a hitscan you can't hit juno, then understand the frustration of projectile characters like Hanzo or Genji shooting blank shots at her lmao

[@JR-hr9hc]

I don’t even shoot Juno as hanzo/genji unless they just aren’t looking at me and I can get the drop on them. Or I know their shift ability is on cooldown and I can dive them. If they have shift or even just speed ring they just live for free.

[@ncascini01]

Omg, and Zen. It's so annoying to hit her as Zen. I don't think they thought about the balance of a character that can move that fast and how it relates to projectile characters. Couple that with her ability to take half your health away by that stupid quick lock on ability and the fact that she's a fast firing hitscan. It's dumb.

[@Stelyns]

@@ncascini01 Zen has some of the biggest projectile hitboxes in the game and they're relatively fast, honestly skill issue unless you're trying to kill her from long range

[@Type1Virus]

You definitely can hit Juno, she is one of the easier ones to hit if I’m being honest… top 500 dps here widow/ashe main

[@ASIRREO]

He's starting to get harem again

[@avid-_-dsg3710]

don’t you guys love playing dps and you get the enemy team with the best back line to ever exist and your back line is playing mercy lucio. The games just over at that point

[@bleachigo990]

This game is broken and no one wants to admit it. people who were at some point top 500 in the lower ranks and whether or not they’re there of their own volition is irrelevant because top 500 players in bronze, silver, gold, plat (and diamond and above to a lesser extent) ruins the game for legitimate lower rank players. It’s kind of a problem beyond just smurfing even though smurfing adds to the problem.

[@Anatley]

Thank you edditor for the kettel wisle. I had a kettle on and was not able to hear the wisle from my kettle. So the edit reminded me:)

[@lukejohnson7222]

What’s the red dots that pop up from 11:55 to 12:05?

[@georgejordan100]

Wait, true. Wth ate those?

[@debohancock4716]

YOOO WANTED WALLHACKS CONFIRMED??

[@Plates1022]

Those are pings to track the enemy but glitched. You can hear Rein call them out.

[@tranxuanloc8014]

I started thinking maybe juno is the victim of Dead's Eye ://

[@MishimaTyler]

Flats has mentioned a Brig armor bug

[@lcyboi]

Support role is balanced

[@iiZLucifer]

sorry but when he said "what is that bullshit" i fucking lost it lmao

[@Ringworm424]

Keep making the great demure content jonald!

[@NotDiversing]

I don't understand the video title, there were 0 showcases of support being broken?

[@spartax8986]

I got a title fix for you lmao. should be " Poor Positioning and horrible backlining got me killed too many times"

[@ienspire]

His name is Gmaulspec?! He's a man of culture.

[@Dragneelfire]

What sonic song version is the one he is playing in the background ??

[@justinrodrigues288]

GMAULSPEC! should always be spamming "49, 49" whenever he gets POTG with shatter

[@MrPanaramuh]

Like a true man of culture. Love finding out top OW players hit up OSRS, like Bowie.

[@Lanewreck]

Dang, sure would be a lot easier to balance support and dps if there was a second person playing tank...........

[@fenixspider5776]

how would that make them easier to balance if you would have double tank? I can understand balancing tank being easier if there would be two tanks but supports and dps?

[@codeninja1]

Tanks need to do little damage but huge disrupts. Pretty simple.

[@fenixspider5776]

@@codeninja1 that would make them unfun to play

[@codeninja1]

@fenixspider5776 why? Cause you're not getting the last hit? If I can stop the opposing team from killing mine I'm doing my job. It is probably too late in the games life to do that of course but it should have always been that way.

[@MoistYoghurt]

Exactly why I don't play comp anymore lmao and BARELY play qp its mostly all mystery heroes or custom games

[@mrboy4312]

Imagine a support deal flanking dps and support won bro that s cringe 😂

[@trinitygsaint2383]

The video titled "the broken state of supports" involves him being bullied by tanks all game then getting missing the kill on one brig and just being mad can someone say biased!?

[@Niksuttelia]

Did he call tracer kiri a bunch of times

[@Tyler-V3NA]

i think a lot of supports are in a good spot rn, but juno specifically is very strong in ways that people didn't seem to recognize at first. the first time i played against her i instantly recognized how difficult consistently hitting her was and lo and behold that seems to be the exact problem. she's crazy fast and a really strong duelist. She can take fights that most can't because even if she loses she can still run away much faster than you can keep up it really sucks because i wanna play my mains I wanna play other supports but every new character is the new meta so there's no point in not playing them, it's just a throw pick otherwise bc someone on the other team will if you dont. The only exception i've noticed was LW. Every other new character is hard meta or at least very strong when they come out, even with Juno's trial period to gather data on her performance I know a lot of people really like Venture but i still think she's overtuned. a good venture just feels unkillable unless you're on cass

[@Stelyns]

Venture isn't a she or he, also they're pretty easy to kill, pretty huge hitbox and extremely telegraphed abilities

[@iSuckAtGamesGG]

I dont think juno is hard to hit, her headshot hitbox is massive compared to other supports, and if dva didn't demolish hitscans this season i think they wouldve kept juno in check

[@soup3043]

Wouldn’t agree that she’s that strong of a duelist. she doesn’t do too much damage (around 100 if EVERY SHOT lands) and usually needs m2 to make a fight winnable against a player somewhat close to your skill. Bap, Illari, Kiriko, and even Ana would probably be better in a fight. She’s very weak against long-range hitscans too (ashe & widow), who are both dominant right now on leaderboards. But she’s insanely adaptable, has excellent survivablity, hitscan healing, great movement, etc. I think the current meta being dive and brawl-favored helps her a lot, because she has great synergies with 3/4 of the meta tanks right now. If it shifted to poke and long-range, she’d be some ass, brother. She’s not overpowered, though, because she has some rough weaknesses.

[@seito9078]

the "I love you" at the end was unexpected and gave me the fuzzies

[@contentconsumer3743]

He’s manipulating you

[@Jurrian9189]

I've been tanking for the past 2 months and the shieet supports can get way with is insane. Had a pog LW/Juno duo for 4 games back to back. I was getting out of the most sketchy situations with full HP and had collective 4 deaths in 4 games !! gripped out of every ult/nuke + juno speed and ult to reposition. Felt invincible -_- . Supps can do way too much and I'm saying that as a tank + they are low key unkillable !

[@realomniman]

to the editor turn down the music dawg shi is too loud

[@evanellis9178]

Whiny hitscan dps streamers dont complain about supports being broken after demonstrating zero gamesense challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)

[@jasontai7730]

I think Juno's definitely a bit overtuned. I think a reasonable nerf would be to just make her primary fire damage scale the same way her healing does, basically like how Ana's gun works. I'd also nerf the Pulsars damage and healing output in exchange for being able to still use primary fire while it's locking on. Other than that, I think Juno's fine.

[@iSuckAtGamesGG]

I think its mainly the meta that makes juno good, like if juno came out back during the double sniper/one shot meta she wouldn't be good at all. I dont think they should touch juno to much, but instead they should actually nerf dva and stop micro buffing orisa

[@SnakeSkinz]

Juno doesn't need to be adjusted at all. Just because something is meta doesn't mean it's OP. Like Cass wasn't OP when he was S tier a few seasons ago. But they nerfed his fall off and now he's not great. They shouldn't make the same mistake by nerfing Juno just because she fits the current meta. She's not hard to kill

[@JohnGundy]

Supp ain’t broken. You’re just making dumb plays then trying to make excuses😂

[@faisal7g483]

bruh

[@contentconsumer3743]

Rancid vibes in this one

[@GearbieFPS]

I don’t think i’m physically capable of agreeing with a cass player. Silence hinder abuser.

[@TurtleDucki]

Overdemure.

[@zkillyatt1738]

The audacity to get mad when you can’t fan spam a support to death displays the dangerous amounts of copium my guy is huffing. On a serious note, supports are alittle busted, but at the same time they just aren’t, while they do have more survivability options, those options are also meant to support their team, which means of course they would be at an advantage in a 1v1 scenario, but in a team fight their abilities are often used to keep their team alive. If you went into a game with 4 supports and then a tank then you would see some issues, but in the current matchmaking, it’s not as much of a priority. But at the same time you have DPS that can two/one shot a support before they even have a chance to process what’s going on, not to mention Cass can just walk up to a tank and delete 50% of their health bar with 1 button press, and then have an ability that allows them to reload instantly and do it again.

[@Stelyns]

If a DPS can easily kill a support, that's usually a severe positioning issue on the support's end. And if a Cass is able to get away with walking into the enemy tank and right clicking, something is wrong with the enemy team.

[@ZalongiaGlory]

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[@vrcti-]

2nd hi wanted

[@daprotato]

supports ults need to be more powerful tbh in the higher ranks they dont turn the tides or anything like a ult should

[@Tyler-V3NA]

Nano, Beat, Rally, Orbital, Kitsune, Window???? Literally some of the best ults in the game are support Pro play ult economy strategy revolves almost entirely around support ultimates Obviously there are lackluster ones like Valk and Tree but honestly those characters are fundamentally underperforming even with ultimates, and they aren't even bad ults. The only one that you could argue is kind of pointless is Illari's because it can be outhealed pretty easily

[@daprotato]

@@Tyler-V3NA tree you can easily be killed its crazy how much the nerfed the ult,orbital lasts 3 zeconds , drop the beat it super situational and is normall used for surviving if ypu need to hold point alone, kitsune is not good in the slightest, nano is used for saving tanks from death mostly , rally is way to short also tp get any real value, i can keep going, they nerfed supports/ ults in general hell tracers ult cant even oneshot squishies anymore

[@daprotato]

Ults in general suck , ow1 they would litteraly turn the tides of a game somtimes but it just feels useless now

[@Stelyns]

This is the most metal rank take I've ever seen. They have objectively the strongest ults in the game. Look at pro-play, the entire start of the match and every other 'neutral' state teamfight revolves around a race for whoever gets support ults the fastest. The only counterplay to orbital ray is to have one yourself, or hope to god you can predict it and kite, kitsune rush is an auto fight win ult if there's no support ult counter from the enemy team, etc. If you're struggling to find consistent value with ults, its a user issue

[@debohancock4716]

​@Stelyns i definitely agree with your take, especially orbital rah being busted, but to me kitsune doesn't seem like the ultimate game changer anymore like it used to be. Idk I'm just not scared at all when I hear that ult unless they have a rein or ram. Now orbital is an ult that when I hear used I know we pretty much can't do nothing while it's out. Still, those are way better than tree lol

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