VW Full Flow Oil System | Yes or No | JW Classic VW

[@JoeMomma-mx8ek]

Wow! That’s exactly what I said when you popped that lid. That is one sweet motor…and in such a tight space (that’s what she said). Very impressive! Your car is so nice!

[@JWClassicVW]

Thanks brother!

[@michaelnagy4603]

I love what you do and that 300+h.p. engine looks amazing im a rail buggy guy from ohio your videos are very informative i learn a lot from you thanks. P.s. slug bug i got you😂

[@JWClassicVW]

Thanks so much man! Really appreciate the support 🙏

[@salgoudnedrac5489]

My experience is that if your Bug isn't leaking you need to add more 😉. Beautiful car bud, really clean. Proud 68 owner myself my "Rumble Bug " is a dual Carb monster but I do like your EFI setup & will most likely copy you for my next motor build.

[@VWJawbreaker]

Great video once again brother. I’m running a full flow setup with external oil filter and oil cooler above the transmission on Jawbreaker with her 2054. I would like to add, if you’re running an external oil cooler with the stock dog house cooler, it’s a smart idea to run an oil thermostat so on cooler days you don’t over cool the oil and it can properly get up to temp.

[@JWClassicVW]

Thanks man... Thermostat for sure, I've been looking at the oil filter mounts that have them built in for a future upgrade. Mario at the Dubshop just got the one I've been looking at, super nice!

[@briansmythe3000]

Yeah that's a good Idea

[@campervanbug7658]

Do you hafta run a 30mm pump to handle the restrictions in the system?

[@VWJawbreaker]

@@campervanbug7658 depends on the condition of your engine. I’ve found that a 26mm pump is more than enough.

[@campervanbug7658]

@VWJawbreaker running through a oil filter and oil cooler?

[@kevinhamling1963]

Hey man a very important video. I'm putting in a oil system on Betsie at the moment. I'm going to incorporating the remote filter head and thermostat plus the fan on my set up.

[@JWClassicVW]

Awesome!! That is the way to go man!

[@JWClassicVW]

Hey, hey, hey... thanks for stopping by! Are you running a full flow set up? What kind?

[@ARockyRock]

well the oil fully flows through the filler and out through the valve cover gaskets onto the ground, if that counts

[@richardciviello3817]

JW I thought I told you the new main bearings feel tight and the bearing cradles are sharp and not pounded. I got the rods back on crank with new bearings, new mains and new cam bearings, case put back together and I will check end play with flywheel and gland nut tightened to at least 250 lbsof torque and let you know Thanks

[@RollingThunder808]

It would be hard to drain all the oil when doing an oil change. Something to think about when changing oil. Maybe add on a drain on the external cooler.

[@jimmywilkinson9190]

Hey JW ! at 6.00 you are showing the oil cooler ! The heat wrap on the header pipe is a no-no ? when you get a valve cover leak it will work like a wick and burn baby burn !!!

[@JWClassicVW]

Lol... my old set up man... not using it now.

[@briansmythe3000]

Actually I ordered a oil filter on Friday Still waiting for it too arrive, It's the pump and filter type without the line's Bess is still stock so it should be ok for the time being Ha ha love the name's bro

[@JWClassicVW]

Thanks brother... I definitely love my Goose and Envy! That filter should be great for a stock set up.

[@jean3251janine]

Hi Jason, great video thanks. Question I noticed that some guys don’t machine the block to fit the oil return fitting into the case but instead use the one oil pressure relief valve cylinder by removing the piston and spring? Does this work?

[@JWClassicVW]

Sure does... thats what I'm doing with the CSP -8an adapter.

[@RichardBarker-d1h]

Hey Jason On my engine builds I have been putting in a windage tray . I like the idea of trying to keep most of the oil at the bottom of the case . Any thoughts ?

[@JWClassicVW]

I've seen them and think they are a great idea! Especially on higher rev engines.

[@scottiencali]

Full flow.. 96 plate cooler above the trans, a thermostat fan switch, remote filter on a 2110 and the fan hasnt turned on yet after a few months...hope thats a good thing!!

[@JWClassicVW]

Might want to test that switch brother... if you've driven for any length of time the fan should have kicked on.

[@scottiencali]

@@JWClassicVW Yep.. i was giving it some time..but the dipstick isnt hot just the tins..so maybe its time lol.

[@gregjones981]

Hi Jason. I am running a 2180 and find that the oil temps are on the high side around 230 / 240. Oil pressure is 42 running and will drop to 38 when hot. From what I understand, the oil pressure relief (pulley end) has the long spring and holds the plunger / piston in place until the engine starts and oil pressure pushes down to compress the spring and plunger which closes off the port to the cooler and allows oil to flow through the galleries. If you have a oil pump which has more pressure than the standard 20 to 30 psi how do you know what tension spring to run to allow the oil to get to the cooler. I am running an external cooler and my feeling is that the spring tension is not allowing the plunger of overcome the oil pressure to open up enough to allow more oil through the cooler. Any thought would be appreciated.

[@JWClassicVW]

You definitely have something wrong, the standard that I've learned and have used is about 10psi per 1000 rpm. As far as the spring goes I've removed the spring at the pully side as part of my full flow system. I'd hook up a Gauge somewhere to confirm that yours isn't faulty but that spring can also get stuck.

[@gregjones981]

@@JWClassicVW Thank you for replying. On some of the articles I have read, it indicates that the spring hold the port closed to the main oil gallery until oil pressure builds up and then diverts it away from the cooler until the oil gets hot and therefore less pressure, so the spring overcomes the oil pressure and diverts the oil to the cooler. If you remove the spring does that allow the oil to go to both the cooler and the gallery at the same time. I think my spring is too weak and staying open and not allowing oil to the cooler.

[@ANAYA991]

Hi, hopefully you’re having a good day and happy New Year’s. I was wondering what oil are you using? I got almost the same set up as your beetle and I was wondering what kind of oil you use

[@JWClassicVW]

It varies depending on time of year, right now I'm running 10w 30 with Zinc. kzbin.info/www/bejne/lXu1fKyKdquFZ68

[@richardciviello3817]

JW any further thoughts on the excess end play on my engine Thanx

[@z6006]

I have an external cooler full flow setup. Can you point me to something showing me the proper way to change the oil? I cant find anything. I assume its different as I'd want to get the old oil out of the system. Thanks man!

[@JWClassicVW]

Working on a video now that will cover the VW oil change with a full flow system. It is a bit different.

[@z6006]

@@JWClassicVW that would be great thanks man.

[@tonytony4056]

Gorgeous looking engine bro! And of course VW

[@theramones48]

Beatiful Bug you have there man !

[@JWClassicVW]

Thanks man!

[@jeromemitchell2061]

Hey Jay😃😃. I have a full flow with external cooler over the transmission and oil filter in the fender. I love it. But the real question is….. That oil leak you got!!! What’s up man film the fix. Another thing get your foot out of ENVY and break her in right like the sweetheart that she is. Love you man and thanks for the wonderful videos

[@JWClassicVW]

Lol... simple fix brother... just a new gasket. Oh Envy is broken in... lol 0 to 100 swiftly... lololol

[@jeromemitchell2061]

@@JWClassicVW You da MAN 0-100

[@eugenebaroni1298]

Great information... Wow the bug looks awesome 👍👍👍 Have a good and safe labor day..

[@JWClassicVW]

Thanks brother, she has been worth all the work.

[@richardciviello3817]

JW I have a question for you I would be very appreciative. I have a 1957 VW with a 1966/68 cc stroker small block Chevy rods. This engine has been together this way since the mid 70s. I have always had a bit of end play but now it seems excessive, I have been checking and checking to see what the cause may be. It has a AS 41 DP block and 92 pistons and a 73/74 Pauter Machine Stroker Crank. I think my problem may be with the Flywheel, I’m still running a 6 volt flywheel and entire vehicle is 12 volt. LMK what you think and get back to me as soon as you can Thanx😊

[@JWClassicVW]

Endplay comes from bearing or case wear, hopefully just bearing wear. The best thing to do is pull the engine, remove the flywheel, and check the flywheel bearing for play. If that bearing has any movement your going to most likely need a line bore, new bearing. Sorry excessive end play definitely means something is wrong. It could be something as simple as a loose glandnut but investigation is required.

[@richardciviello3817]

@@JWClassicVW have already split the case checked all bearings and all the bearing cradles all edges are sharp. It did seem after torquing the gland nut in excess of 250 lbs the end play was much less but all the videos I look at they state you really don’t have to torque all the way also when pushing back and forth when checking it seems to hop, I assuming because of slanted cam gear and crank gear LMK what you think people are saying that the 6 volt flywheel might be the cause but if I measure without flywheel still seems excessive Thanx for the comeback and thoughts

[@JWClassicVW]

Not sure about the 6v flywheel and how it has anything to do with your endplay. Yes the flywheel should be torqued. How was the bearing wear and the crank journals? The next step for me would be to re torque the case halfs with the bearing and check my clearance compared to the crank. You need the proper tools for this.

[@richardciviello3817]

@@JWClassicVW not quite sure of what you mean about the last part of your reply referring to the special tools and measuring

[@cjjones1556]

I have Goose Envy. I wish. Good name.👍

[@JWClassicVW]

Lol... yesss she is a pretty lady

[@moss1transcendant]

i need to know what temperature range is best as im running a electric fane on a rerouted cooler rad.

[@JWClassicVW]

180 to 220 is the norm for temps

[@moss1transcendant]

@@JWClassicVW thank you

[@sr4087]

It's been a year, howd your exhaust and oil lines get along? Because no heat shield, my god

[@JWClassicVW]

No heat shield required, the lines running near the header have fire sleeve. Everything has held up fine.

[@oscar_dubs]

Great knockledge!.

[@JWClassicVW]

Thanks brother glad you enjoyed the video.

[@ryanbaines2832]

Not running one yet but thinks I need one soon aha

[@JWClassicVW]

Awesome! Glad the video helped.

[@bluesky-vw1jo]

Very sweet beetle

[@JWClassicVW]

Thanks!

[@derekpaterson7946]

Hey dude are these good to fit to a lowered bug mine is pretty low ?? Keep up the good work brother Dez

[@JWClassicVW]

It's All about clearance brother. They are good for any VW.

[@watchdog3605]

That sounds awesome

[@moss1transcendant]

i shopuld haev stated that im after finding out so i buy te correct switch for on and off with the fans

[@JWClassicVW]

Your ging to want a swtich that turns on at 180ish... check this one out. www.summitracing.com/parts/der-35022?seid=srese1&gclid=Cj0KCQjwmdGYBhDRARIsABmSEeOxJmSMAnYHMHXHfq83ANa0bubQgZWSM3MKeg_776yVo2ZwGeAmMJsaApPkEALw_wcB

[@stevemendoza6744]

Great video !

[@JWClassicVW]

Thanks brother! Glad you enjoyed it.

[@420dieter]

what about on a type 2????

[@JWClassicVW]

Never worked on a type 2... sorry

[@throttlebottle5906]

classic VW. if it's not leaking oil, it ran out of oil. 🤣

[@JWClassicVW]

lololol... the 4 ever fight

[@BrianHamilton-nv5jk]

i once nearly polished off an entire case of oil (11 quarts) one day, snowboarding trip, up and down the mountain… countless people waving hands/honking/panicking/yelling “your car is on fire!!” nah, its just a volkswagen. 🤪

[@1Rooster338]

nice bug. I'm in the market if you know of any friends selling theirs. Kerrville, TX

[@JWClassicVW]

Not that I know of, but thanks for stopping by.

[@watchdog3605]

Nice work

[@JWClassicVW]

Thanks man! Glad you liked the video.

[@geoffstone9555]

At 1.09 what is smoking?

[@vintage76vipergreenBeetle]

👍

[@JWClassicVW]

😃

[@cmarshall4559]

A cooler maybe if you run hot it want to have but the filter is pretty worthless. VW and Porsche did not use them.

[@JWClassicVW]

I also have a cooler, it's great... but the oil filter is definitely not useless. A good oil filter can help keep all kinds of contamination out of the engine.

[@benstout1402]

Let me watch the video

[@JWClassicVW]

Lololol.. ok do it!

[@zachary5683]

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