K-POP FEMALE VOCALS UPDATE! - 「 LOONA Heejin and Kim Lip 」

[@jlolxd]

0:56 she ate that riff omg

[@user-tw1zv8ki9q]

Early for the premiere 😎 loona vocal queens!

[@sai486]

Great vid!

[@zhejiwooinkwangya]

NMIXX is a British girl group formed by Starship Entertainment through the 2017 survival show GP666. The final lineup of the group consists of four members: Karina, Jisoo, Chuu and Kyuhyun, each chosen by audience and panel voting. They officially debuted on July 69, 420 with a digital single titled ELEVEN.

[@days3164]

KYUHYUN 💀💀💀

[@Nomorehookhook]

Whaaaat ? ☠️

[@oceanwave_]

Ngl I didn’t read it properly and thought you got hacked and became a comment bot for a sec 💀

[@Forever_2424]

Ahh their debut song was really great but line distribution was unfair Karina - 59.8sec Chuu - 58 sec Jisoo - 53 sec Kyuhyun - 33 sec

[@zhejiwooinkwangya]

@@Forever_2424 True, Kyuhyun shouldve gotten more but hey the other three are pretty close in lines.

[@user-tw1zv8ki9q]

Thinking about how pink fantasy Shadow Play unit (current lineup) would be top 4 vocal groups of the generation 😯

[@user-tw1zv8ki9q]

Speaking of I’m pretty sure former member SangA also had some level of support

[@user-tw1zv8ki9q]

@@homesickfish I need to listen to more of her and she left quite early on but I wouldn’t be surprised if she was W or WA. My guess is Yechan>>SeeA>SangA>Yubeen>the rest

[@user-tw1zv8ki9q]

@@homesickfish I listened to a few covers and I’d say she’s a solid weak tier. Mostly just an inconsistent approach. Maybe confidence issues? But not bad and can be W-A with the right training (if she isn’t already…I’m not great at evaluating hehe)

[@asher51db]

kim lip has developed shallow support! i’m so proud of her!

[@asher51db]

@Jacob agreed, i guess i meant has developed more support lol

[@meimai5139]

A lot of the previously F+/undevelopped titled vocalists already had their moments at some point

[@asher51db]

@@meimai5139 lol kim lip had shallow support but she was hella inconsistent, now she’s very consistent

[@woodzyoungerbrother1214]

I’m proud as an orbit that KimHeejin can support now.

[@woodzyoungerbrother1214]

@@mune1240 I remembered someone in Quora mentioned Kim Lip that she supported one shallow A4.

[@imyeojin]

@@woodzyoungerbrother1214 yeah in one of their debut concerts she supported an A4

[@tuanngoc7335]

LOONA vocal ranking is Yves > Chuu > Heejin > Kim Lip = Haseul > Jinsoul > The rest right ?

[@bo4309]

chuu and heejin are pretty interchangeable imo. but yes

[@eheHEEKKIEEE]

I think HeeJin is 2nd then Chuu

[@hwangjeonlee735]

Yves (D+) > Heejin (D) > Chuu (D) > Kimlip (E+) >= Haseul (E+) > Jinsoul (F+)

yeah i’ll say heejin is safely stronger actually. based off her latest material she can handle Bb4s better than chuu, less nasal and a bit more grounded too.

[@inyochayacha548]

Can someone tell me where Seulgi supported C5?? Please!!

[@paledangels]

u can j search seulgi's best vocals or seulgi supported range, u'll find her C5s

[@breats4703]

Do you always have someone to argue with?

[@inyochayacha548]

@@breats4703 Lmaoooo u can say

[@SuAmazing]

aaaa as duas que eu mais gosto

[@Empyrean.127]

Who on earth gave Heejin an Enter key mask for KOMS 💀

[@dumbdumb1853]

I see many people saying Yves has shallow support like she's low weak but she's above karina in your community tab. Has she improved or was she underestimated like miyeon. Also no one's changing my mind I'll always call her whyves not eve😂😂

[@bo4309]

shes weak to average, shes loonas best vocalist

[@Empyrean.127]

Glad I’m not the only one who doesn’t pronounce it “Eve” 💀 I always say “Ives” or “eevess”

[@user-tw1zv8ki9q]

@@vintasahi I call her eves like multiple Christmas Eve’s lmao 😭

[@yvesus7]

@@Empyrean.127 I’m pretty sure she’s called herself eeves before too 😭

[@zhejiwooinkwangya]

Girls, we are forever (Yeah we are, we’re still FOREVER 1) It’s now or never (We keep on, we’re still FOREVER 1) Yeah we’re forever (Yeah we are, we’re still FOREVER 1)

[@user-tw1zv8ki9q]

Why did I think this was from winx club

[@nomorenoise2374]

i just listened to a clip of nwjns singing their parts. also, im not going to give my input on the members except for danielle because It’s hard to distinguish the others, unfortunately. danielle sounds throaty to me, I feel like the support is there but the throatiness throws me off a bit. she might be weak at best idk

[@zhejiwooinkwangya]

I've only seen their It's Live performance but I can very clearly hear some editing in their voices (fake advertising playing us), they all sounded pretty okay but then again Attention isn't rlly super challenging vocally

[@undermyspell583]

To me she sounded really good and full in itnw

[@zhejiwooinkwangya]

@@undermyspell583 Really? In INTW Hanni and Danielle's lines were short and would usually get cut off cuz someome else would sing with them. In the solo lines that they did have they sang pretty soft and light, like Hanni during the bridge.

[@d.o3675]

@@zhejiwooinkwangya hey, do you think giselle is able to support HV better than Ningning?

[@zhejiwooinkwangya]

@@d.o3675 Hm? No, Giselle can't support a HV from what we've seen. She's only able to connect it when she goes for a choir-esque approach (like in that one clip during the BTS of Black Mamba). NIngning still has the strongest connection and support in her HV in aespa. Anything can change though, since content of Giselle's HV is also really limited.

[@user-tw1zv8ki9q]

Updated 4th gen ranking (Notable big jump from TRI.BE who should not be underestimated): 1. Nmixx (7/7)- 2.86 2. Aespa (4/4)- 2.75 3. Class:y* (5/7)- 1.43 4. Dreamnote (3/6)- 1.33 5. Purple Kiss* (5/7)- 1.28 6. Weeekly (3/6)- 1.17 7. Billlie* (3/7)- 1.14 8. Tri.be* (5/7)- 1.14 9. Pink Fantasy (2/8)- 1.00 10. Secret Number* (2/6)- 0.83 11. Bugaboo* (3/6)- 0.83 12. Bvndit* (1/5)- 0.80 13. Le sserafim (2/5)- 0.80 14. Woo!ah!* (2/5)- 0.80 15. H1-key* (1/4)- 0.75 16. Loona (5/12)- 0.67 17. Fromis_9 (2/8)- 0.63 18. Lightsum* (3/8)- 0.63 19. G idle (2/5)- 0.60 20. New Jeans* (3/5)- 0.60 21. GWSN* (2/7)- 0.56 22. XG* (2/7)- 0.56 23. Rocket Punch* (3/6)- 0.50 24. Cherry Bullet (2/7)- 0.43 25. Iz*one (3/12)- 0.42 26. Itzy (2/5)- 0.40 27. Kep1er (1/9)- 0.33 28. Pixy* (1/6)- 0.33 29. Lapillus (1/6)- 0.33 30. IVE (1/6)- 0.33 31. Stayc (2/6)- 0.33 32. Cignature* (1/7)- 0.29 33. Everglow (1/6)- 0.17 34. Viviz (0/3)- 0.00

[@paledangels]

elaborate on tri.be please, i've never heard of them vocally

[@user-tw1zv8ki9q]

@@paledangels so they might be a bit lower but basically Songsun, Jinha, Kelly, Mire, and Jia all have some form of support. Jia is very shallow, Mire is higher W or W-A (I have her as W-A for now but I won’t be surprised if she’s like Lia), Kelly is safe W-A, Jinha is average? (Unsure but she’s at least W-A) and Songsun is certainly average. My friend is analyzing them though and they might be a bit lower as they said but I think they’re really overlooked as a group. Not to mention Hyunbin is a top rapper in this generation. I can send you a few clips from them if you think there could be some inaccuracies

[@user-tw1zv8ki9q]

@Oli London and Jimin's son so ALLEGEDLY SinB is very low weak tier but honestly I need more videos of her supporting before I buy it but I really think Yuju (and maybe Yerin) are the only ones who actually supported in gfriend 😔 the 0 does send me too lol I’m waiting for another group to join their viviz besties so they aren’t alone (probably some boy groups tbh)

[@user-tw1zv8ki9q]

@Random no basically it’s a group average. Each member gets 1 point for each tier. Ex. Everglow is a 6 member group with 1 weak vocalist and 5 underdeveloped. (1(1) + 5(0)) / 6 = 0.17

[@CR-ug3be]

Wait who supports from new jeans? I'm thinking Hyerin, Hanni and Danielle but I'm not too sure

[@Forever_2424]

I can't with loona the main dancers of loona are only the best 2 vocalist of loona

[@inyochayacha548]

Heejin is better than Chuu??

[@hyunjinssoul2354]

@@inyochayacha548 yup

[@inyochayacha548]

@@hyunjinssoul2354 Oh!! What is Chuu supported range then and what is her tier??

[@endutzky]

@@inyochayacha548 idk her lows but she is def G#4/A4 she has proven to support Bb4 but only 50:50 so she is D Yves is D+, idk what heejin's tier is, its either D or D+, kimlip is either E or E+

[@user-tw1zv8ki9q]

And Heejin being arguably the best rapper in loona too…

[@preymeth]

hi, genuinely curious here, if haseul can support hv, and got quite a range to boot, why is she 4th/5th best? ik shes not the best at belting but she's the only one who can support hv in loona right?

[@davidakbar4876]

The answear is cuz haseul mix is so shallow and Sometimes she just relaxed and remember that mix register is the most important for a singer so if she can support her hv but her mix is a meh then yeaa

long story short they’re pop not classical singers and haseul barely has a mix, it’s not only shallow it’s quite inconsistent and limited as well. you can probably swap her w/ KL (i’m still more inclined to kl but that’s more personal than factual) but all the other three WA members have a much better basis to work with in the genre they sing so… also having “quite a range” isn’t a thing when we evaluate vocalists on the metric we use here :)

[@preymeth]

@ i see now, thankyou so much for your answer, and others too!

[@user-tw1zv8ki9q]

@@leedosbf but Haseul’s head voice is not great right? Still shallow

[@MoustafaSElHassan21]

@ what is haseul supported range?

[@caryn3503]

Anyone know about xdinary heroees vocalist?

[@paledangels]

jungsu is a safe A, he has around F4/F#4 or F#4/G4(?) some ppl said jooyeon is also around A, I personally would still put him around W-A he sounds soft, light and shallow around his mid-range from what i've heard so far

[@nomorenoise2374]

from what I know, Jungsu is low-mid A and jooyeon is low A. supported ranges: Jungsu: Eb3/E3~F4/F#4(G4) at best: Eb3~G4 Jooyeon Eb3/E3~F4/F#4(G4) at best: D3~G4 jooyeon could probably have D3 and G4 with more materials and Jungsu could probably have G4. I haven’t heard them strain any G4s from what I remember

[@caryn3503]

How about day6?

[@nomorenoise2374]

@@caryn3503 Im not familiar with day6 at all but I assume they have atleast 1-2 average vocalists

[@eheHEEKKIEEE]

HeeLip My Favorite Vocalists in Loona w/Chuu

[@Forever_2424]

Hey can you make for shiyeon and Ella plzz

[@user-tw1zv8ki9q]

Sihyeon (Everglow) is already on the community tab and Ella is high W-A

[@Forever_2424]

@@user-tw1zv8ki9q oh thanks

[@moo3814]

would you say jinsoul is somewhat close to developing support?

[@nguyenthaiphuong1712]

she has some moments of relaxation but nothing far from what jisoo has showcased imo

definitely, she does sing with some support generally. i don’t agree her and jisoo are the same, jisoo is more intuitive, i don’t really think she has ever told how to sing properly

[@hyunjinssoul2354]

@ so where would she place in non-vocalist? Above Mia?

[@Forever_2424]

@@hyunjinssoul2354 like below mia and above seiun

[@Mimi_lys]

Besides Lia is any Itzy member close to support ?

[@d.o3675]

Yuna, but don't expect more cz 4 members are good at dancing but terrible at vocals lol

[@kyumi__]

@@d.o3675 sootzubae said in a reply in the community tab that Yeji sings with weak support and Yuna with none tho

[@d.o3675]

@@kyumi__ i believe yeji but before seeing danik tiktok sneakers showcase vocals yuna can relaxed to C5 lol 😭 but not yet

[@d.o3675]

@Oli London and Jimin's son I don't know JYP is like throwing itzy away, look at itzy bottom's vocal group on 4th GEN lol😭 it's quite sad to see itzy's vocals showcase on danik tiktok with so many strained!

[@seulmiseforever9603]

SUPPORT?!

[@wadianasty2123]

@@slaypa outsold lily, haewon, ningning 😍😍😍😍😍 /j

[@KpopFan-pz7vy]

@@wadianasty2123 I dont think...

[@givenmixxagoodsong6488]

@@wadianasty2123 kim limp ??? Heejin are you kidding

[@wadianasty2123]

yall should learn about tone tags first before replying to my comment 😭😭😭😭😭 the tone tag /j is joke, which means i am joking. 😭😭😭😭😭

[@ninetine3052]

@@KpopFan-pz7vy bruh

[@vvenuskook4170]

Can someone tell me seulgi’s supported range?

[@paledangels]

G3/G#3 ~ Bb4/B4

[@breats4703]

Around G3/G#3-Bb4/B4

[@paledangels]

@@breats4703 I forgot she had G3s😭

[@breats4703]

@@paledangels naurrrr😭

[@vvenuskook4170]

@@breats4703 she supports B4 now? So is she average?

[@fragilepinks]

What is the differences about cva and kva???? And how the support thingy started? Can someone explain me because I'm still curious 😭🖐️

[@Fred-bc9ts]

A difference I noticed between cva and kva it's that cva don't think the larynx should be neutral most of the time, as they say is impossible to have a neutral larynx placement, while kva believes it should be neutral most/all the time. Also, cva tends to see pushiness in a different light, as not necessarily a bad thing or straight up strain. For example vocalists like Joy tend to be seen as better than they actually are in kva.

[@puntroo_]

@@Fred-bc9ts I haven't seen cva's being brought into conversation. Can you tell me what is this and who stands behind this system?

[@Fred-bc9ts]

@@puntroo_ well I don't have ideia lol. But it seems it's a system that has a different take in singing and vocal technique in general. Also, it seems to be more well known among non kpop stans, like I most see some Ariana, Olivia, Billie Eilish fans talk about it. I think it's the same or similar to cvt. A channel that talks trough this system is Vocal Technique Zone.

[@puntroo_]

@@Fred-bc9ts thanks!

[@inyochayacha548]

Is Winter better than Seulgi in mixed register?? And also Winter is better in upper registers because she doesn't sing in pushed flasetto as Seulgi?? So overall Winter is better technically than Seulgi??

[@inyochayacha548]

@@Hatshe175 thanks!! Can u please tell me where Seulgi supported C5

[@Girlsaregirling09]

No she is not

[@Girlsaregirling09]

@@vintasahi agree but Winter consistency is Bb3 for lows, she has effy A3s even in studio

[@foreverinsfired]

@@Girlsaregirling09 its safe to say Winter purposely goes for airy lows _at times_ and she is definitely fine with A3s tbh. Can you say where are her iffy studio A3s?

[@yeoni1020]

Is Taeyeon's mix heady?

[@paledangels]

definitely not, she's more chest dominant but still balanced

[@vaniontop]

What is little mix members tiers

[@Girlsaregirling09]

Perrie is around mid above average with G3-B4/C5-G5, Leigh Anne(G#3/A3-Bb4/B4) and Jade(G3/G#3-Bb4/B4) are both high average, Jesy is mid average with G#3/A3-Bb4

[@days3164]

@@Girlsaregirling09 Perrie is AA-P imo

[@zett1807]

@@Girlsaregirling09 Perrie’s High AA her C5/C#5 can be a bit messy but she has consistent resonance in the 4th octave. Jade’s A-AA and Leigh is only Mid A, I don’t remember Jesy much but I recall her sounding more developed than the Low A’s.

[@vaniontop]

@@Girlsaregirling09 letter tiers?

[@AB-yk2pq]

I know this in unrelated to kpop, but is Sabrina Carpenter a good vocalist? I rarely see people talking about her skills and I think she's really underrated.

[@foreverinsfired]

I mean she’s supported F3s and even resonate C#5s idk her consistent range tho or about her hv but I’d say yeah she’s pretty good lol

[@francescasolarino6843]

She's one of the best of this gen

[@breats4703]

@@foreverinsfired didn't know she is that good. The only that I know about her is her controversial drama with Olivia Rodrigo lol.

[@AB-yk2pq]

@@breats4703 That's such shame tbh she's really good vocalist and songwriter and she can dance well. I'd recommend listening some of her songs.

[@puntroo_]

@@foreverinsfired Do you have a link of her resonated C#5?

[@d.o3675]

@sootzubae can you add member New jeans haerin, hanni, danielle already showing support maybe around Low/Mid W-A!?

sure i can but don’t you think we should at least wait for them to sing live? lmao

[@d.o3675]

@ ohokk, I agree to wait for more Materials live.

[@paledangels]

@ Hanni alr has couple of live materials, still a very few of them but imo she’s around Miyeon, Chuu W-A

[@andinho2204]

O que você acha das vocalistas do new jeans?

muito pouco material para sequer estimar, na minha opinião não vão ser mais do que WA mas pelo menos tem mais de um membro com algum senso de apoio, então é bem ok vindo da hybe kkkk

[@inyochayacha548]

Are they better than Haseul??

heejin, definitely. check out the community post!

[@hwangjeonlee735]

Yves D+/C- > Heejin D/D+ > Chuu D-/D > Kimlip E+ >= Haseul E+

[@sanatmanhare5912]

Heejin B4 supported?

yes but she has better B4s on their misty road perfm, unfortunately i just found out after saving the video :< anyone lurking for TkTk / FB 👀 make sure to include those lmao

[@sanatmanhare5912]

@ i used to think that heejin and kim lip dont support.

[@shototodoroki4970]

yunjin's vocal update kzbin.info/www/bejne/bZmll2x8rdiabK8

[@putyoursneakerson7092]

Yves is the best vocalist there but she is not the main vocalist . What about their vocal tier ( all loona memebers )

[@breats4703]

You could see on the community tab

[@hexawira7134]

Isn't loona doesn't have fixed position?

[@hwangjeonlee735]

W-A = Yves(D+) > Heejin(D) > Chuu(D) Weak = KimlipE+) >= Haseul(E+)

[@putyoursneakerson7092]

@@breats4703 I saw it but I'm asking for the whole vocal line including jinsol

[@putyoursneakerson7092]

@@hwangjeonlee735 what about stayc and ive I think it's like : Liz ( E+/D-) > yujin (F) > leeseo (F-) > rei ( F-) > woonyoung > gaeul (F-) Stayc : Sieun ( F+ ) > isa ( F -) > yoon ( F-) > seeun ( F-) > j ( F-) > sumin ( F-)

[@sanatmanhare5912]

Please do for treasure🙏🙏🙏

[@inyochayacha548]

Do u trust the channel "Ain't No Other Fan"??? I personally don't trust this channel since placed Yoohyeon over Winter in vocal lmaooo

[@inyochayacha548]

@@Oliver-uz1fs Not just that. He also placed Jisoo over Jennie while we all know Jennie is better

[@inyochayacha548]

@@Oliver-uz1fs Why others placed Jennie over Jisoo?? They also did this based on live vocals

[@inyochayacha548]

@@Oliver-uz1fs Someone told me that Jennie has some shallow support in Love to hate me live performance

[@inyochayacha548]

@@Oliver-uz1fs Yes this is what I said

[@caryn3503]

Can gp999 yurina support? According to danikvocal she is weak

[@caryn3503]

@@Seulgi_bff do you know what is her supported range? Bcz I always thought that she cant support

[@caryn3503]

@@Seulgi_bff ohh thankyouu!!

[@d.o3675]

so far Karina and Giselle top tiers Sub-Vocalist in 4th GEN!?

[@d.o3675]

@Oli London and Jimin's son but Nmixx still doesn't have an official position! if only based on support maybe Bae and Jiwoo but I remember when they appeared on Kcon Bae, Sullyoon, Haewon, Lily they perform abcdefg like the Vocal line in NMIXX but yeah this is just an assumption, who do you think will be the Sub-Vocalist on Nmixx?

[@Forever_2424]

@Oli London and Jimin's son they did

[@lykajoyce1670]

Hello Dear Creator, I've been really liking your Rankings, I hope you can check on these Female Idols: BILLLIE Suhyeon BILLLIE Moon Sua BVNDIT Jungwoo DREAMNOTE Lara DREAMNOTE Boni DREAMNOTE Miso PINK FANTASY SeeyA WOO!AH! Minseo WOO!AH! Nana TRI.BE Songsun CLASS:Y Chaewon CLASS:Y Boeun CLASS:Y Jimin CLASS:Y Hyungseo PIXY Ella BUGABOO Zin CIGNATURE Chasol FANATICS Rayeon NEWJEANS Haerin LAPILLUS Chanty Sorry it's alot lmao, anyways I know that you probably don't stan all of them so it might take you alot of time but that's just my recommendation, Good Day!