K20 MR2 Spyder: The Ultimate Touge Car?

A test drive of a Honda K20A powered Toyota MR2 Spyder ZZW30
#zzw30 #mr2 #k20
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[@harrisonlu8681]

really appreciate all the recent videos. to me, this channel has evolved to another level since the Japan visit. it's so precious that one with both k and 2zz experience mrs driver would spend time make video comparison. so much useful info, thank you for sharing. keep it up

[@TougeTime]

More to come. Just got an external mic for go pro :)

[@AndrewontheHusky]

Lets talk about Fit being second fastest.

[@joshuafallet5690]

Just watched a guy do a 14hour endurance race with one. It's fantastic. Lightweight chassis really make these k series engines great fun.

[@jonj4357]

Great sleeper haha

[@3amhondacivic]

people sleep on them for their looks. Their literally so convenient. easily best daily, great mpg, cheap & comfortable. Can look good with some coilovers and wheels.

[@9unslin9er]

Not surprising. Fits are exceptional corner takers. Little on the heavy side though. Through a Yaris in here and the it would be easily behind the MR-S.

[@chumba421]

Cars have gotten so much bigger on average that the Fit of the 2010s and 2020s is basically what the Civics of the 90s were while new Civics are more a midsize car

[@izayoiaifuyu]

ZZW30s always look naked without a wing.

[@PpRZman]

Better look without!

[@thestig560]

There’s really no small wing that fits the look of the Spyder. It’s either a full blown GT wing or naked

[@heilong79]

@@thestig560 There was a toyota Europe ducktail spoiler that looked good.

[@nobetternickname]

i know it's not the thing most people are concentrating on but that little hand pointer is the cutest thing ever 😂❤

[@breeston]

Finger pointer alone got my subscription haha good work

[@TougeTime]

I see you are a man of culture as well

[@logicwarrior6872]

I’m a 5th grade teacher and I used that same pointer, until I bought a laser point. Haha! Love all of your videos!

[@stevenseow647]

Thanks for the unbiased review. Your content and pacing has been getting better and better. Great job! All my stuff is ready, and now I can start my k-swap feeling confident the combo drives well..

[@wholespeed]

Dude you are awesome at describing the differences between the power plants. Good stuff. Very smart!

[@eddiedick9886]

You really do a great job... thanks again,I can't get enough of this review.

[@dephataznboi]

I like the way you shot, recorded & edited this video. The pacing felt better than previous videos, keep it up. I know what you mean about how the 2ZZ isn't as fast, because it isn't at all, it's slow and you need to be at the high end for any sort of power, it's just good enough for regular driving and some spirited driving, however still keeps the fun factor.

[@somegi9]

a k24a3 swapped MR-S has been my dream street/track build for years. good to know it doesnt throw the balance out.

[@turbod15]

2zz better balance

[@frankflores1917]

2zz=slow

[@psangli1203]

I just discovered your channel and its amazing. Please upload more :)

[@eddiedick9886]

I'm ready to see the weight difference and auto x results difference between your 2zz and k20a!! Can't wait I'm excited. I just finished this video again for the 20th time.

[@pragmatist7455]

This is inspirational, thanks. Great work!

[@eddiedick9886]

So awesome!!!! It was like you doing a review on my car.. I'm super pleased with mine as well. Keep up the great work! So Honest!

[@iamalanavery]

That looked INSANE fast, you kept nodding, I dont know if I would be so composed in those turns!

[@rickybobby6835]

Best sounding n/a 4 cylinder! I can listen to that rev all day

[@ajd2003]

I have a built 2zz in mine with a GTX3076R turbo, e153 trans and water to air intercooler. At 29 lbs of boost it dynoed at 538 hp to the rear wheels and it doesn't spin the tires with a pair of 255/40r17 RE71s on the rear. It accelerates like a 1000cc sport bike lol.

[@feral4mr2]

Got footage? Sounds mental..

[@pav_nath]

Love the review man. Great knowledge and well explained. Good work, keep it up dude

[@kaitakahash6922]

Old local track rat here who accidentally stumbled upon this channel after giving up on finding a 2nd gen for track werk hahaha. I always knew that the 3rd gen was the more capable chassis in the back of my mind, this video and the current 2nd gen market is the final straw. Would like to test drive this beautiful K swapped ZZW30 and your 2ZZ swapped MR2 to help me solidify my build plans. Willing to pay gas, cash, beer, etc. Your Philosophy and Touge-Otakuness is comparable to mine which is rare. Hope to hear back and keep up the good work!

[@jonasarche]

Great video man! Would you make a video about breakpads? Your experience and feelings about them. Thanks a bunch and keep up the good work!

[@IGDesigns]

I enjoyed the video, cool to hear your insight since you're so familiar with the platform. Working on a k24 swap myself, this just gave me a little more motivation. Glad to see the video doing well.

[@halililkman4477]

İs it done? And if it is pls tell me about it how its feel its better than k20? And whats the difference between k20 an k24😁

[@IGDesigns]

@@halililkman4477 No :/ slow progress. I upload videos (it's been a while) on my progress, feel free to follow along.

[@ericb1054]

Very nice car and great video. I also watch your Time Attack content 👍🏾.... Your video makes me miss both of my MR2’s (1zz ZZW30 with hardtop and V6 swapped SW21) . If I still had the Spyder I would totally look into this swap. Went from the Spyder to V6 SW21 and 07 Z4 3.0 Coupe to now Supercharged AP1. All great cars but I love my S2k the best and never plan to get rid of it. I would love to have another Spyder with a K swap next to it some day though. Keep up the great work fam!

[@panicwire]

Great video. What a dream car. Subscribed!

[@analyedxd3551]

Best Motoring Ambiance, super reminiscing! Sugoi!

[@wiifreak212]

Stoked for the autox footage

[@aznboiitelldem]

Hella close gear ratios. Freakin goals man!

[@bhautobacs]

Awesome video, I saw the techno spirit video and i was not convinced about k20 ruining the balance of the spyder! nice video keep it up! just change that annoying Bridgstone cap next time

[@randomcallsign]

"holy shit came" to mind at 7:08

[@joshuafallet5690]

Yeah that sold me,I gotta pick up an mrS

[@twrcrew8852]

the video is sped up though. lol look at the grass.

[@scottbeaumont8651]

Sounds fantastic!

[@CalvinMOfficial]

Great review

[@justinread5609]

I agree with everything you said about the 1zz 2zz and k20. I have a k24 going in mine so the extra torque should be epic

[@all_out_of_bubble_gum]

Isn't K24 even heavier than K20 ? That could be a disadvantage

[@izzy031096]

@@all_out_of_bubble_gumOnly by about 10lbs

[@omarpatterson5045]

im sold thanks again for the video, still loyal to toyota wish they made a similar drivetrain as the k20 but big ups to japanese machinery lovin it

[@johnbowden7058]

You could go for the BEAMS 3SGE. As they are also 2 liters and make similar numbers to the K20A from the factory. Albeit they dont rev as high, but they also make just as much torque too. They go for 210ps (207 HP). Or if you still want the revs and essence of VTEC, try the 2ZZ w/ VVTL-i. Though you'll be at a small disadvantage becuase its displacement.

[@bretherinn7302]

Amazing review

[@alejandr0031]

Been wauting for you to review a k20 mr-s. I want one bad just the price keeping me away for now. Cant wait to see you take it on an autocross.

[@FredaricoIsCooL]

So excited that you like it. Currently planning my build. I’m planning to to a hybrid between rsx-s and tsx motor. Will obviously have more torque than k20a, but also more power, still all oem.

[@MitchDore]

Damn that car moves! 100/100

[@m3rk201]

Great video brotha will be doing the same too! So excited haha

[@matthewyang2792]

Nice frickin review!!!

[@EvanAxer]

Yeah this would be the combo i would use if I had a MRS

[@ghettobird172]

Man pulled out the blue pointer and I started laughing so hard

[@ogrigoros131]

Oh man that is so great! Well done. If you mind asking what shifter did you use and cables? The shifting looks so smooth

[@weaponisedpotato7352]

Love the pointer.

[@theslayerr7770]

I rarely type comments but here I cant resist. Such a cool car, coming from a Honda engineering fan, I am looking to buy a Mr2 as FWD on Hondas feels like a waste of potential on those engines (I had 3 civics EG and EK now) :D Seeing this I know what my next project will be! RWD, Mid engine and a NA Honda engine seems like a killer project! So thanks for that review, great sound from the car and also great driving, you definitely have some big balls for pushing this car this hard around corners :D Well done man!

[@TougeTime]

I have videos of it pushed harder on my channel if you want to see more. Thanks for the comment.

[@NishantDash]

K20 MRS is wayyy on the top of the tog foodchain lol Great vid!

[@hvskyline1368]

Yeah I think the only thing that may be faster would be the s2k

[@TougeTime]

@@hvskyline1368 lol no way. Hahaha. I have one too

[@hvskyline1368]

@@TougeTime I'm juggling between the mr2 spyder and the s2k they're both relatively the same price here Haha I would love to build a 300hp NA k24 mr2 spyder for the down hill with the gt300 kit but the s2k is way cheaper in the sense I dont have to spend 6k to get the motor swapped and it has more of a tuning platform

[@hvskyline1368]

@NET I'd go k24 more torque when you need it but that's just me

[@joaovitorsilvagohl682]

@NET k20 head k24 block

[@tophercourtland1584]

Sweet ride! Does the factory gauge cluster function like factory? Thanks for the video!!!

[@filippotognon7012]

Very interesting, thank you

[@radstar2185]

I was really hoping that you would have not been so impressed with the k20 especially when I just got my 2zz swap done. But realistically the 2zz was the only option I could get done on my budget. Thanks for the info your review and opinion on this topic is the best so far. More content please :)

[@TougeTime]

Nothing wrong with 2zz. It's beat a good amount of cars. It's just not comparable like many say online without trying both.

[@radstar2185]

@@TougeTime thanks for the reply. It made me regret spending all the money for a 2zz to hear its not even close to the k20 and I've still got to fot the 6sp into mine when I get the cash. I guess I'll have to settle for it as it is :(

[@asiat30]

​@@radstar2185 The 2ZZ-GE rival is the B18C6, not the K20A. The question is more "are you satisfied by you 2ZZ swap?". If you only think about external point of view, you'll always find better, and It will never end.

[@avery379]

Awesome vid thx

[@dukethunder25]

goals to the max

[@machineslave3]

Awesome video. Now you'll have to find a K24 to review. Haha.

[@bottlefedmr2]

He can review ours if he wants

[@tmph1814]

Please share the cost and challenges you have dealt with to build this. Wow what a sleeper!

[@minpinracing8462]

Awesome video

[@vale.r4214]

Are you gonna sell the s2k to fund your own k-swap?

[@ayowser01]

You should do it. It seems you enjoy the MR-S more. It would be a monster with that k20-R motor.

[@kevinflores3141]

Nah he needs a Honda fit and k swap that

[@jacobhiller6731]

Never sell an s2000

[@vltruane]

@@jacobhiller6731 Well, at this point, two years later, I would sell neither. 😉

[@gtvtrueno]

Awesome video man... very inspiring Would you mind sharing the wheels specs please 😊

[@bseries8826]

God what a beautiful sound

[@loganamurray64]

to be fair a 220whp K20 is full bolt on levels, people with FBO 2ZZ's have passed 200whp a good few times now in Celica's and Corolla's, that'd help a bit too

[@maimunrahman9635]

Good unbiased video! K20 is a brilliant lump. I used to own an EP3 Type R. The 2ZZ would be the route I'd choose for cost and simplicity of installation. My only thing with doing a K20 conversion is, for the same overall cost would I not be better off buying something like a Porsche Boxster S? Heavier I know but great car out of the box with a nice bit of power that's more than usable. An interesting one to see would be a 2ZZ with forced induction vs K20, both at similar power levels of course 😎

[@NathanMcCrackan]

Great job :)

[@colinshum3461]

Very informative. Is the a/c condenser and belts all stock Honda parts? I imagine the p/s is still Toyota oem since it’s totally disconnected with the drivetrain on the zzw30 chassis

[@weiwei9923]

I approve of this, very nice 👌

[@raviolitrail]

Still haven't seen a weight for this car vs 2zz swap. Would be cool to know. Thank you for the great review

[@tazs8142]

he do be having a fresh fit doe

[@therealboofighter]

I have been thinking about k swapping my Sw20. I still want to play with the 5sfe fo now. I am just having fun with it.

[@PM_DraKKar]

literally in work on my k20 swapped MRS w/ AC! hope to be done soon and make some touge vids with it😁 Edit: my MRS is now Kswapped and God damn this took awhile to get used to speed wise versus the 1zz and 4age lol

[@bottlefedmr2]

Just wait we are releasing the new module this month to allow the factory gauges to all work.

[@TougeTime]

@@bottlefedmr2 ??? Factory gauges already work

[@bottlefedmr2]

@@TougeTime only with 2 ecus...

[@TougeTime]

@@bottlefedmr2 this is just hondata

[@bottlefedmr2]

@@TougeTime then he has no temp, oil or battery. The tach and speedo will work but due to the toyota multiplex systems and Honda canbus the hondata is not able to intercept the multiplex. The Toyota ECU has a " secondary" computer built into it that sends "encrypted" data to the speedo. Then the speedo have another control module to output the data. Maybe you over looked it. We were the first to develop this module as its a common problem with any engine swap that isnt using a toyota ecu.

[@14energy]

Firstly ive planned to do 2zz swap, now Im not so sure. Ill probably stiffen up the chassis, slrt out brakes and suspension and work on my budhet to be able to do K swap. Question that comes to my mind is k24 a better option then k20 for touge/ autoX? If doing the K swap is k24 a superior option?

[@cliffordbradford8910]

Need a One Take with this car

[@austinkye5053]

SUBBED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have a 2ZZ MR2... saving up for 3.5 V6 or K24!

[@joshuafallet5690]

Does the 2Gr-Fe for you think?

[@RolanTHUNDER]

I really like this build. This is in fact one of my desired future builds for all the reasons you mentioned in this video. I like the 2ZZ swapped MR2 but this K20A would trump the 2ZZ for me. I'd take this one step further and say I'd rather do a K24/20 hybrid swapped MR2 ;) K24 bottom end and K20 top end with the 50 degree VTC gear, oil pump and RBC (or is it PRB?) intake manifold swap. Tune it to 8 grand and hit that touge hard! Great review and driving impressions!

[@junitoortega8656]

Man this video is so awesome. I am amazed at the unbiased opinion that you have towards the k20 even tho you have put money and time to a 2zz. This reinforces my want to do a K20 Si or Type R swap on my Spyder once I reach 120k Miles (currently at 51k). I thinks the pros outweigh the price considering you can get a 50k miles certified engine from an importer and have a reliable and fast beast with plenty of availability of parts for years to come. keep the videos up. And if you can please do comparisons between your 2zz swapped Mr2 and the K20 one on the same track to see how they perform. These type of videos will shine alot of light to the community and bring more acceptance of the k20 on mr2s. Thank you for the upload and keep em coming!

[@TougeTime]

Ya price isn't too bad if k24. K20a is expensive.

[@sirhaney]

Power band is THICC

[@gmadgengarage]

Great Video brother. The K24a2 would be a cheaper adjustment if your gonna go Kswap. Best bang for your buck. It’s cheaper, more torque, majority of the parts are readily available and they all part if not most of them from the 2.0 liter k will work on the 24. Building a k24 right now so i know.

[@longboarderebright]

dayum k20 rips!

[@christianherrero9348]

wish i had roads like that lol

[@baypour6964]

Dropping facts! I wish toyota made a motor better than the K20/24 to swap in. I wouldn't go with 2GR but thats just me

[@alexhise968]

Id like you to come drive my ZZW30 with a 2arfe swap when i finish it

[@frankthatank4818]

Thanks for confirming what I’ve thought about the 2ZZ and K20 options. I was questioning it a lil after the Techno Pro Spirit video. And the sound of the K20 is just way more pleasing too. So when are you gonna swap to a K20 lol

[@sukasukayosua]

Just being curious, where do you put the radiator on k swapped sw30?? And if you decide to slap on a turbo or supercharger where do you put the intercooler?

[@LaredoCourtCrushers]

Any recommendations on what swap kits to buy to do a kswap like this on an mrs?

[@itheus]

I opted for k24 swap. As the engine is alot cheaper than the k20 at present time. Plus i am keeping it n/a

[@MikeJ75]

Whats the best suspension set up for a MR-S k20?? I heard it gets pretty scary driving let alone if you turbo it.

[@Gabriel1309]

So good! It would be great to have some acceleration times - someone borrow him a vbox!

[@Pube83]

Gabriel Fisch It's gotta be super quick, 0-60 in under 4.5 and 0-100 in less than 10.

[@ctr6224]

7k/9k is stiff for bouncing roads I agreed, but on track I run 10/14k feels good

[@stevensnarr8957]

I have seen your car and what you can do with your 2ZZ it is very impressive. I went out and bought a 2000 mr2. I believe I contacted you before about a 2zz swap. Now that I see this Honda swap I’m conflicted. Could you or would you share information about the shop that installed the Honda motor. I live in Washington state just south of Gig Harbor. The video looks like it was shot in Everett.

[@p1fly]

Hi me and my friend are carrying out this k20 conversion shortly. In hindsight what would you have done differently or what would have changed if you would start over again?

[@GT6SuzukaTimeTrials]

K20 = my favorite engine MR2 = my favorite car I need this. EDIT: You're in NJ? I gotta see your car at a meet sometime!

[@rustbeltrobclassic2512]

It's like a jr NSX.. It's dope..

[@pawelgrucha4596]

This is some dannydc2 engine sounds 😜 Quick question regarding rear Camber, do you have the adjustable lower arm to adjust camber in the rear ? Or you using camber bolts only ? Thinking about getting hardrace lower arm but don't know how much adjustment I will be able to achieve...-2° is my goal

[@TougeTime]

Camber bolts in the rear were Like -3.something when i put it on. It'll easily hit -2

[@pawelgrucha4596]

@@TougeTime yeah already have rear camber bolts set to -2, but they are a pain to adjust/tweek without taking the wheel of the car. Looking for some easier way to adjust camber from under the car while its being aligned in the workshop

[@jnnz88]

Hey, just wondering if you noticed any difference in steering feel? I've heard K20 swaps can make the steering feel light/floaty in the corners due to the weight. Thanks.

[@izzy031096]

Just keep your spare wheel in the front

[@kpraz]

waiting for aftermarket to develop headlights for these

[@armando2004]

You mentioned its passes emissions in your area. Your in California right? You were able to get it California EPA approved?

[@matthewyang2792]

It’d be great if you can do a review on the engine swap. Like what products he used to get it all swapped and working nicely! Or just any tips and tricks!

[@TougeTime]

It is a full MWR kit straight from website!

[@bottlefedmr2]

Maybe this is what your looking for? www.mitchsautoparts.com/pages/how-to-swap-a-k20a2-into-a-mr2-spyder-zzw30

[@hvskyline1368]

This build is goals for me except with a built NA setup at 300hp and a gt300 aero kit🤤

[@joshuafallet5690]

You have great taste, same here!

[@hvskyline1368]

🤝 my man

[@JAMM264]

Wish you had recorded the speedometer when you were ripping it

[@andysky5]

Pls do a video on mr2 spyder with k24 swap....that's going to be epic 😎

[@apostolis633]

how much did i cost for the k motor swap? You got me into this philosophy for good

[@twrcrew8852]

How much money has to go into it to get the speedo and tach and everything working like oem?

[@hamsterbrigade]

my mr2 came with a 2zz. If I had to pay for a swap, I'd strongly consider the k swap. I'm still considering it, but I can't justify spending that kind of money when I'm unsure about whether or not there is a wheel to wheel class it can be competitive in. On a side note, do you feel you've spent enough time at the limit with that car on a track to comment on the balance of the kswap in relation to the 2zz swap?

[@TougeTime]

Watch dannydc2 on KZbin. Sub 8Min nurburgring no aero lol

[@tom-ml3ph]

The mr drive train is a believer. Is a rotary possible on this frame?

[@trizguru7916]

Would love to compare it to my 2zz Stroker. 221whp yet to install my manifold. I've yet to drive a K Swapped Spyder.

[@bottlefedmr2]

Your always welcome to come drive mine

[@Lezgothen]

7:08 😱😱😱

[@audechilderes9402]

That was sexy wasn't?