[TF2] Kritz Always Sucked

[@Finneagan]

Getting so triggered over random crits that you can't enjoy them yourself and want them removed is a personality flaw. It's indicative of a an obession with predicability and it shows that you take winning and fairness in an inconsequential casual game far way too seriously. If you stop being OCD you'll realize they're only mildly annoying to get hit by compared to how fun they are to randomly get. Take your lumps like a man private twinkletoes.

[@SupaThePotato]

oh? you dont like something i like? that means you have a personality flaw

[@d_camara]

@@SupaThePotato and you're also being OCD

[@Senor-Batido]

It sure is fun to get killed more than four times in a row by random crits... said no one It is fun to kill a group of more than 3 ppl with a crit projectile tho ngl

[@cognitiveAfflatus]

To quote one of the greatest minds of our generation, Jon from Miiverse; You not liking me critically injuring you with a baseball bat is also a personality flaw. You should realize ending up in the hospital is only a mild annoyance.

[@Finneagan]

@@cognitiveAfflatus the fact that you feel the need to compare suffering serious physical assault to dying once or twice to RNG in a video game session kinda proves my point

[@thatguynamedwil4577]

A machine that kicked you in the balls for every time you got a kill would be a great elmaxo challenge

[@crud5237]

What

[@solsoman102]

omg this!

[@mrkitty1997]

Who? 🤨

[@RandoEmmy224]

"TF2: Getting 100 kills but a Robot Kicks my balls on Every Kill"

[@disgustingg]

he should just get a machine that does that anyway every few seconds

[@no.5689]

you know the video is good when you laugh the whole way through it

[@happyraintf]

Unlike the kritz. Kritz bad.

[@RandomFurry07]

​@@happyraintfunless you're the one getting it Or the pan

[@happyraintf]

PANNNNNNNINI @@RandomFurry07

[@Jazzmofo]

that minicrit large pizza joke made me laugh waaay more than it should have

[@starsoficarus3915]

“This isn’t even FRESH gameplay I’ve had this stored in my fridge for MONTHS” This is the peak commentary I needed

[@discolovebiscuit6017]

The abrupt kill myself line followed with the even more abrubt sniper's jump is hands down the funniest thing ive seen all year. Thank you.

[@kalukagamingfellaguy]

no, ty

[@Richter451]

I think the flare gun is a good example of a well balanced and fun crit mechanic

[@showmesomethingrandom4163]

5:45 that was literally a villain's ending my god lmao

[@42carlos]

You nailed the 'Seriousness vs. Sarcasm' with this video. Enough jokes to be entertaining without slowing the pace down and becoming frustrating.

[@icebitezart]

The Flare Gun has gotta be one of my favorite weapons in the game, it requires you to either set up a debuff at close range with your primary or land 2 shots at a distance. There’s a reason why a lot of people respect it I feel. Unlike most crits a crit flare can be a finisher but it doesn’t kill instantly due to the base damage being 30 and thus the crit damage is 90. It’s good as a finisher but lacks the ability to breach thresholds unless you’re actively in the fight.

[@Mega_idk]

It also helps that being set on fire is usually a warning sign on it's own. Aside from the fact that you're passively taking damage you're also vulnerable to a flare or axtinguisher. Staying in or running from a fight while on fire are decisions the player gets to make, both with their own consequences if the player succeeds or fails with their chosen decision.

[@Mantafirefly]

It also means that fire damage isn't just a boring bit of delayed damage. You're now wounded and 90 damage + a burn refresh suddenly matters a lot. Stack that with the fact that fire can be ended sooner or even extended (Flares deal 7.5 secs of fire, max cap is 10), and you have a more interesting mechanic than it could've been.

[@ocaradasmaoladobokunohero]

If there was a machine that stomped my balls everytime I got a kill, I'd be on a godlike killstreak every single match

[@Neitheradentist]

🥲

[@ShakerSilver]

Gonna disagree on the Frontier Justice - it does change your mindset by incentivizing you less to protect your gun or to intentionally destroy and rebuild when given the chance, in order load up on crits to defend yourself better with your smaller clip. And even with those crits, you're still just an engineer whose gun was destroyed, so it's not terribly punishing for the enemy to play as they usually do.

[@aiyowei187]

Seconding this, i think that letting your sentry die as engineer does count as “weird shit,” that could reward crits, even if its just the boring “do what youre class not suppose to” weird shit.

[@korikitsune4314]

I am gonna disagree with you on this one. While yes it does incentive different play for those with the confidence to try it. It just as often screws over players who can take a sentry nest down by letting the Engie who should be defenseless dump triple damage into you for your trouble. Spies especially have this bad because of how much they struggle to take down a sentry nest at times only to die even quicker because of the Frontier Justice. It doesn't do anything to punish turtling as always and simply can be used as a "my sentry finally went down lemme just kill whoever did that and start rebuilding"

[@ShakerSilver]

@@korikitsune4314 Except if you're playing with it while turtling, you're going to want to keep your sentry alive as long as possible and thus you'll just have a worse shotgun for self-defense for longer periods.

[@korikitsune4314]

@@ShakerSilver Its not a smart choice for a turtling shotgun. I will agree with that. But it is an annoying one for the opponent because once that sentry does go down suddenly the engie has (potentially) 10+ crits to dump into anyone who was involved in taking down said nest. Its a similar feeling to engaging a Medic/Sniper in close range and getting one tapped because a melle crit. Its a situation where the class should be at disadvantage but instead they suddenly delete you.

[@pemo2676]

@@korikitsune4314 yeah it gets kind of ridiculous, especially against a heavy - theyre not expecting the engineer to suddenly want to 1v1 them in a push, and then THEY WIN because *someone else* destroyed a nest

[@1mariomaniac]

"This isn't a JRPG, it's actually fun." _Ouch._

[@ZoofyZoof]

I don't understand why people think JRPGs aren't fun

[@1mariomaniac]

@@ZoofyZoof idk either, off the top of my head I can think of quite a few that are considered great. The Final Fantasy series, Dragon Quest series, Super Mario RPG, the Paper Mario series, the Mario & Luigi series, the Mother (Earthbound) series, Chrono Trigger.... I've just realized the only game I listed, not made by Square, Enix, or Nintendo was Mother/Earthbound lol

[@ZoofyZoof]

Mother/Earthbound are Nintendo games, lol. But if you want to get technical, then Paper Mario and M&L RPG aren't made by Nintendo either. They're just published by them. The same is true for a LOT of games. They're just published by the big name but not actually made by them. I'm really really looking forward to the new Dragon Quest Monsters game :) I love this series, and the last game we got was in 2010, unless you count the Japanese exclusive one that was in 2016 which I kinda don't. @@1mariomaniac

[@1mariomaniac]

@@ZoofyZoof oh yeah, guess you're right, forgot that M&L is made by AlphaDream. I actually haven't played much of the Dragon Quest series past the first few games on the NES, should really get some more of those games lol.

[@ZoofyZoof]

@@1mariomaniac Dragon Quest games vary wildly netween each game in terms of its characters, story-telling, and rarely game mechanics. Last time I checked, there's always a company swapped out for someone else in their development so things get different. Dragon Quest 5 is amazing, but 6 is just fucking horrible. 7 is very meh, as well as confusing and poorly communicates where to go (I stopped playing because I got lost). 8 was very very well received, but when I played it, I honestly didn't think it was that great. And yet again, I stopped playing it because I couldn't figure out where to go. 9's core gameplay is different compared to every other game, and I don't really like it that much. 10 is Japanese exclusive. Then there's 11, and this one is actually a masterpiece. Personally, I prefer the Monster series tho.

[@RadDad21]

The entire thing feels like a shitpost while you're also able to make your point. I'm honestly impressed.

[@ghostow5583]

“Nearly infinite KZbin coin (7$)” never heard a more true statement

[@vitamin9165]

COUNTERPOINT: funny projectile go boom

[@kalukagamingfellaguy]

fair

[@inconspicuous1772]

5:07 Bro, you almost snapped my neck! I was tilting my head trying to watch that gameplay clip.

[@mrmolasses5888]

i love random crits they make me feel good. but only i should have them, no one else

[@kalukagamingfellaguy]

based

[@lavakater9851]

w

[@TheAweDude1]

At first I thought you were talking about the Kritzkrieg, and I was about to throw hands.

[@NotTomorrow1]

6:59 The best analogy.

[@NickTheCodeMechanic]

Exactly! Reminds me how the ATF will cap ur dog right in it's adorable brown eyes just for existing.

[@binjimonanimations]

When I read the way the title was spelled, I thought you were going to talk about how you think the Kritzkrieg weapon was bad, and I was preparing for some hot takes only to be met with the coldest take imaginable.

[@renon1946]

Live by the krit, die by the krit. 'Liking' never comes into it. It's just a way of life.

[@chippotato5647]

I like how TF2 Classic handled random crits. They were made into a mechanic exclusive to melee weapons (with exceptions made to the weapons that guarantee crits one way or another), and in my experience, this change makes fights more chaotic and fun.

[@InkyGhoul]

Who the hell spells crits "kritz" other than referring to the kritzkrieg? I thought the video was going to be about that.

[@quadrifern]

this...this is a very well written, well paced, and beautifully edited video that is flying under the radar

[@kalukagamingfellaguy]

Ty I appreciate it

[@SoraTheKobold]

just got recommended this video, it was actually really funny and i love the editing and sarcasm the whole way through

[@Imirui]

11:45 “Could interact in ways that are fair and interesting.” Unless it’s the spy vs pyro matchup in which case you get fucked over for being within a 5 mile radius of the pyro. If he has a dust particle land on the left mouse button spy is basically dead on the spot due to the 1.5-5 seconds of afterburn while cloaked (3-10 sec without cloak) and it being so easy to apply. The only time the matchup is somewhat balanced and fair is when the pyro is running the Dragon’s Fury, in which case it becomes a somewhat fair matchup because they can’t just lawnmower the entire fucking battlefield and get free spy kills. The matchup between the two is so one sided that you as a pyro can catch out spies by complete accident constantly. Since afterburn lasts so long and is so visible, it takes nothing short of a spy-cicle charge, immediate conveniently placed health pack, even more conveniently placed medic assuming you have one, dead ringer usage, or kunai backstab to stop the spy from being dead within 5 seconds.

[@GallusCorvus]

Hey I'm not a thigh-high wearing hillbilly, I'm wearing Kneehigh's thank you.

[@YoshikageKira-ge9gt]

Still cute lol

[@azi-keil9574]

This video is like finding a 5 star michelin dinner in the back alleyway of a chicago crack den

[@therustedshank9995]

TF2 players can't decide if random crits are a gamebreaking mechanic or if "no random crits" is a negligable downside

[@kalukagamingfellaguy]

When they happen they're extremely powerful, but the inconsistency of them occuring makes it so that "no random crits" isn't a meaningful downside. These aren't mutually exclusive, and in the video (that you didn't watch) I even stated that the inability to rely on random crits is a contributor to their weak design. Also that doesn't work as red text if people have the option to play on servers without random crits where those weapons become upgrades over stock.

[@shoelace5977]

removing the no random crits downside imo only makes weapons OP in specific cases, like when...: 1)the weapon already has a method of getting garanteed crits, which would for instance let a spy two-tap a soldier to death with only some luck 2)the weapon is a sword, as demoknight has really easy methods of getting close to people, melee crit rates are dangerously high and should not be given to a primary/primary type weapon, the swords often have snowball abilities, making the knight even more dangerous, and shields already gives theese melees garanteed crits ( see point 1 ) imo i would gladly give spy knives random crits to accomedate for the fact they get failstabs on the most random of times, but i would stop using the ambassador if it got random crits

[@Nickton12]

@@kalukagamingfellaguy I really enjoy random crits, and while they've never really influenced ranged gameplay beyond going "Oh okay that was a crit I guess", they absolutely have an effect on melee. A lot of risky melee plays just evaporate if you never crit and always know the best you get is 65 damage. Hell, on average, even with the lowest crit chance, no random crits is almost a 30% damage reduction on average, even at just base crit chance, let alone with the really steep scaling melee gives you. Imagine joining a server and it just says every melee weapon with random crits has its damage lowered by 30%, and they tell you "Yeah this doesn't really affect the balance." I think random crits could be removed from ranged attacks and have no real effect on the game or its balance, but melee crits should stay no matter what. I was really happy when a lot of the bots were cleansed from casual, since it meant I got to play with random crits again after being stuck on community servers with random crits forced off. It was actually fun to try meleeing someone and have that tension as they try to melee me back, instead of them just tanking 65 to shoot me for 110. Much less egregiously, I also think its disingenuous to pretend turning off bullet spread for shotguns doesn't effect balance when its been shown that doing so gives much tighter cones of fire. That said, I doubt too many scouts are winning that many more fights just because their cone is half the size it would otherwise be.

[@emilianomelendrezmelendrez4863]

i will never not laugh when i either get a crit or die to a crit, and i would be sad to see them go, but I can appreciate all of the points you made. I hope to see more of your content soon man!

[@dkskcjfjswwwwwws413]

i dont get how anyone finds that funny

[@Ramonatho]

​@dkskcjfjswwwwwws413 sometimes you just need to reset. It's funny to people like us to not be able to get massive killstreaks because we're not here to sweat too hard, just enough to get some frags and have a good laugh

[@shellpoptheepicswordmaster755]

I don't get massive kill streaks and I don't find it funny.

[@22burnsie]

Everyone could just be me, and only have random crits when you miss your shot and never kill someone with them? Boom, problem solved.

[@kalukagamingfellaguy]

lol

[@TheSuperappelflap]

What I find weird about TF2 is that crits are generally hard to get. You can either get a headshot with specific weapons as sniper or spy, you can get kritzkrieged by a medic, or you can hit an enemy with certain status effect like jarate, water, or fire with specific weapons to get them. They require specific interactions and often require setup or teamwork. Even the frontier justice, which is arguably OP, requires a lot of setup to get crits. You have to build a sentry, repair it while it racks up kills, and then it has to be destroyed before you get your crit shots. If your sentry dies and you only get 1 or 2 crits, its not going to be very impactful, and if you get a lot of crits stacked up, you can still get instagibbed by half the classes in the game because engineer without his sentry is very weak. Or you can play phlog. That is the exception. Net getting airblast doesnt nearly make up for the massive damage increase with basically 0 setup. Most buffs only give mini crits. This makes crits actually impactful and justifies the 3x damage multiplier. And then someone decided to enable random crits on casual for some reason, which completely invalidates this part of the game that was designed very carefully to not completely overshadow the rest of the game. If it was random mini crits instead of random crits, it would still be random, which I dont like, but it would at least be somewhat in line with the rest of the game design.

[@HalfLifer81]

Just by hopping on a no crits server and playing for a while you can see how much more fun tf2 becomes when you don't get 1 shot everytime you try to do something

[@kalukagamingfellaguy]

exactly

[@commanderdemonno9819]

until a good sniper joins the server

[@NotFine]

Yeah, there's literally no difference other than not getting 1 shot out of nowhere It's kinda crazy how much random crits just feel like a slap dash mechanic that could be stripped with zero negative side effects

[@Vaniity_Velvet]

All the things TF2 players talk about Popping and they overlook the most important one: Their cherry.

[@Kappuccino_mug]

2:44 Ah yes the talk of intellectuals

[@OpossumFan]

I didn't expect an acab joke in a tf2 video, but I'm so here for it

[@fabrix199]

great breakdown of these game mechanics

[@TV-MA.x_x.]

I love your sense of humor so much. The way you seamlessly transition between being serious and sneaking in a joke. It always catches me off guard. Your humor reminds me of this one game mechanic. One I can't predict but when it happens, I get small rushes of dopamine. You could call it random. Maybe even critical.

[@mistaht5777]

Very good video man. Consistently entertaining! Also, if you're genuinely running out of ideas for TF2, I would recommend branching out sooner than later. Your comedy and style of presentation is extremely good, good enough to carry whatever topic you decide to tackle. The longer a channel stays within a single topic, the harder it is to get OUT of that topic. Good luck man!

[@kalukagamingfellaguy]

Yeah the plan is to take a short break from tf2 while I try to come up with good ideas

[@nameisakam758]

Counter Arguement: It's funny

[@Luckychew]

As a CASUAL player who plays CASUALLY I find getting crocketed is funny

[@ib6458]

i also play casually yet dying to a crocket for the 20th time makes it unfunny(it wasnt funny the first time)

[@cheatsykoopa98]

liar

[@Weldedhodag]

you laugh at the same joke 100 times over?

[@ib6458]

@@Weldedhodag ong they are lying so hard

[@Luckychew]

@@Weldedhodag yes

[@smackedkat5112]

4:52 did you just use overwatch in this sentence. GUYS HES AN IMPOSTER FROM THE OVERWATCH COMMUNITY HERE TO TEAR US APART

[@kalukagamingfellaguy]

You are a dweeb

[@jaysbadatgaming]

I like unironically random crits because they’re funny

[@anguishedcarpet]

I fluctuate in and out of the game every 6-8 months or so and EVERY time the thing that makes me go "fuck this dogshit hoe-ass game" is a random crit

[@surfinggarchomp2820]

Holy shit this video feels like something that would come out of a channel with 10x your subscriber count. Great job!

[@faya5429]

I missed these completely unhinged rants of yours

[@simplysmiley4670]

To be honest ultimates in overwathc also feel like a steaming heap of bullshit half the time. As a concept, yeah I guess, but in practice it's jsut 1 press of a button to delete the enemy team, or to do absolute fuck-all, with all the enemy recieves being a voiceline in a completely different language to tell them they are either going to all be evaporated atom by atom, headshotted in a streak or watch a monkey jump in and die. Banners are jsut better then what Overwatch got for ultimates. They are strong and can influence the game, but they aren't "press this to wipe whole enemy team" kind of good.

[@keithkania3810]

Personally I enjoy the risk-reward of pulling out a melee weapon as a “last resort” with a 1/3rd chance to kill or badly injure the opponent with the trade off of next to no range. Meaning you either have to sneak up on them, ambush them, or rely on them being an idiot and charging at you. (Like say a cocky scout chasing you down before you smack them around the corner with an Uber-saw crit.) Excluding the Scotsman skullcutter since demo has a charge that mostly nullifies the downsides while having increased range. The occasional crossbow crit I don’t mind either. But killing like half the enemy team *only* because I got lucky and not because I took a risk or displayed some great marksmanship leaves me feeling empty inside.

[@HeDronHeDronHedron]

The real strategy is not getting in a position where a scout can be in melee range, ubersaw crits aint a problem for scout but for spy they absolutely are a problem and a crutch

[@Charlieweddle]

Crits are fun and I'm tired of pretending otherwise. This is coming from a spy main who eats shit by them on a regular basis so I'm not even that biased

[@ib6458]

how are they fun?????????????????????????????????

[@Charlieweddle]

@@ib6458 You've clearly never rocket jumped to land right next to the cart and shot directly at your feet for a hilarious quad kill, or flat out deleted someone as a medic with the crossbow if you're asking that question

[@ib6458]

@@Charlieweddle I have. It's very common. And that's why they suck, they reward you for play dumb or just playing, it's not fair or funny when I kill the whole enemy team with a crocket.

[@Charlieweddle]

@@ib6458 Then you need to get your sense of humor checked because it's hilarious seeing a whole team instantly deleted by a Loose Canon shot

[@ib6458]

​@@Charlieweddledog, i have played this game for 1000 hours, its not that funny to begin with, after the 20th time it isnt funny at all. also wow, ignore balance because "GuYs ItS fUnNy, OnLy In OhIO rIgHt???" ur humor is bad

[@TheEpicPancake]

I honestly never can muster much for or against crits. I think they're dumb, but they're dumb in a way that augments the goofy chaos of casual games at least. From a perspective at all caring about game integrity, though, they're ruinous. I just roll with the punches, whether or not the server I'm on has them.

[@motths_2354]

im still waiting on the borderlands slots machine tier list

[@kalukagamingfellaguy]

all forms of gambling are s

[@stickmaster400]

just found this video and your now my favorite person to miss sleep to

[@thatrandomcrit5823]

Random crits are fair and balanced.

[@TheSirZparity]

Good thing there are "No crit" servers for anyone who wants to take a break from the frustration of them.

[@sydssolanumsamsys]

you spelt it wrong. kritz is short for kritzkrieg. the game mechanic is spelt crits.

[@kalukagamingfellaguy]

Don't care

[@sillypinkmoth]

​@@kalukagamingfellaguyi do

[@sydssolanumsamsys]

@@kalukagamingfellaguy okay.

[@CursedSFMS]

@@sillypinkmoth-L furry- my apologies

[@RandomFurry07]

​@@CursedSFMSyou're in TF2 ffs

[@evakeva274]

i just think random crits are funny as hell honestly. does that mean i think that they're a well executed mechanic? no of course not, i do think it clearly has some big issues, but the big funny is all that really matters to me :)

[@dkskcjfjswwwwwws413]

you think theyre funny because you were told they were funny you literally got indoctrinated into liking a game mechanic

[@bluemario1985]

The phlog is balanced-famous last words

[@leonardo9259]

Cons: i get critted Pros: I get to do crits too So overall very fun, unironically I love them

[@BromineBlues-om7yf]

I always hated crits because of the reason you said about them not letting a fight breathe because the other person just dies in one hit There's so much fun, depth and strategy that comes from the class + weapon design and the high time to kill and that leads to so many nail-biting fights ESPECIALLY in 1v1 scenarios, and crits just end these fights and therefore take away the gameplay that I love, they literally take away the GAME THAT I LOVE I honestly think people who like random crits AND (emphasis on AND, if you like getting them but don't like getting hit by them then that's fine) don't care when they get killed by them don't actually like the *game* part of TF2 and just play for the cheap meaningless dopamine from killing someone with no effort

[@spakwi]

Isn't it "Crits"? "Kritz" is only part of the medigun "Kritzkrieg", which is a pun on Blitzkrieg + Crits (spelled more german) Anyway, good video !

[@plastiktuten3866]

uncle dane style of humour executed perfectly, bravo

[@leandrolahiteau8162]

I dont know man, people can cry about this topic all they want, thats not the problem, the problem is that this game did something different and people want to change it at its core. I understand that dying to a crit can be frustrating but, guess what? Its a game about winning or loosing, you gotta lose sometimes and thats okay. A lot of people get OBSTREPOROUS when they lose, especially when it is for reasons they cannot control and i understand it VERY WELL, but they dont make use of this and they even take it with them for the rest of the day, not allowing themselves for that catharsis and thus creating a problem in their life. All im saying is "come on, you gotta love it!", especially when you are playing CASUAL, and if you really got a problem with it, thats ok, its an old source game, theres custom community servers everywhere with their niche communities like the one from that popular tf2 engineer main, theres other games too, theres also other games made in the same engine that could behave differently, but its not the same, i like to hear this silly characters maim themselves in ridiculous combat as much as any tf2 lover and crits are simply how their world behaves, one may not like bears but we cant be going around making them extinct! I havent seen this video to completion (i stopped at 6:09 for context i guess ) and i probably wont stay for the conclusion (no hate, its not a bad video or anything, i personally think you´re pretty good at this! im just not in this mood rn :3) but ive seen a lot of these with the pass of time and i reached the conclusion that sometimes you cant change stuff, but you can adapt and thats a quality you can use videogames to train yourself with (or not, idk). If anything, crits are the most realistic aspect of a game where you can rocket jump, in real life it is estimated that half or maybe a little more of the total casualties where from artillery fire but im not gonna say "Skill issue💀" to those who fell, RIP. Anyways, for whoever out there, ty for reading allat, i really needed to relax after a tense situation and maybe this is useful to u, maybe it entertained u, gave u insight, etc, you can be angry too maybe idk, slay queen. Just rest assured and know i know this is not only my "2 cents" as you say, but also a 🤓 moment! Haha ill take the L only if its for yalls W. Be well people!

[@ReiCaixa]

5:06 JESUS I already watch on a side monitor which breaks my neck. Then you used that effect and it made me say WOW

[@quotastrider801]

The most common argument i hear from players that are pro-crits whenever i bring up balance fairness and the fun of the other player is "I dont care" And they even use that when referring to GETTING randomly crit Which is just, like the most PATHETIC excuse you could ever use

[@Van4eus]

When i get crited i either is as mad as from just being killed, or quote Heavy's: "Is funny to me", but not caring about playing a game you started to experience something is sad

[@Lone-Nep]

I have played on community servers without random crits and Its fucking boring and after spending at least 500 hours on those servers am convinced TF2 would be worse off without random crits in casual. I tried your so called "utopia" without random crits. Its all bullshit.

[@StoryTeller796]

Also, for the Ambassador, The Phlogistinator, and the Diamondback, what about FishStickOnAStick's videos on them? He said that Spy's is a pick class, contrary to popular belief airblasting is essential to Pyro (which is why I believe that the Phlog should get the reverse Equalizer treatment and get a much smaller radius and without the gas cloud Gas Passer as a replacement for Airblasting while still keeping its Oomph meter), and that Jarate should be nerfed because it gives an incredibly high reward for little effort.

[@nightshade8621]

Alright, but what about crits on melee?(with the exception of spy knives and demoknight, and maybe a slight reduction in the damage multiplier or something)

[@vyor8837]

Sniper

[@Van4eus]

​@@vyor8837i think he need a different melee, not just 65 and random crits

[@dkskcjfjswwwwwws413]

i love crit hacks that the average player cant detect

[@Zancb]

Random crits were put in the game because "critical hits" are exciting to the player, and pseudo-randomizing them (increasing their chances the more damage they put out) helped try to incentivize players to try and stay alive longer. You also have to remember... this was the mindset from developers making a wacky cartoony game in 2005, releasing in 2007. There's no way this game's developers had the forethought how general players' skill floor would evolve today. Are random crits bad? Yes, at times. But also, when I'm in a random lobby and working my butt off to defend a point as demo... sometimes when you see a horde of players coming to kill you, and you let loose a crit sticky and clear the point... my god does it feel good to have some sort of reward for staying alive.

[@CRITICALHITRU]

Some guy in the comments proposed leaving random crits to melee weapons. Seems reasonable.

[@undvined]

It's funny because I always thought the best solution to weapons with situational crits was to just make them mini-crits instead, and that mostly solves their annoyance problem. Not completely, but it makes them less aggravating to fight against.

[@bottled_leviathan9376]

Idk why, but it still has me shook whenever I hear someone else bring up Hunt: Showdown, I never heard of it until a few months ago, but since then I keep hearing about it more and more.

[@kalukagamingfellaguy]

its good, i got it on sale a few weeks ago and if it goes on sale again I highly recommend it. 40$ is too much, imo, unless you have a lot of income to spare.

[@reeddavies5235]

I so thouroughly despise multiplayer games that use 'inacurate while moving' mechanics. They discourage skills in both dodging and hitting moving targets, which both add new layers of mechanical depth.

[@dkskcjfjswwwwwws413]

cs players explaining how cs has the best movement in any game despite it being a dumbed down basic quake movement

[@NotFine]

Can someone answer me? I am genuinely confused on how removing random crits would ruin some people's enjoyment of the game. Where are you getting your enjoyment? To me, my fun comes from interacting with other players, abusurd plays, and just messing around in general. These are in no way affected by random crits. Some people have even said that removing random crits would kill the game. Genuinely how??? The game is whimsical and silly in more ways than i can say that don't intrude on fair gameplay.

[@kalukagamingfellaguy]

To this day I genuinely do not know. I think this is one of those things that has simply been repeated so much it becomes 'fact'

[@wackaducky]

I like random crits a lot. It a great equalizer for dickheads like me who can’t stand using good weapons. As someone who’s bought a full prof-killstreak loadout for my knight cosplay scout, without random crits helping out, my three-rune-blade and flying guillotine strategy would go from mega underpowered to almost completely unusable. As lover of weak items please don’t take away one of my very few salvations. You meta using clones will never understand the feeling of getting a tryhard pyro on Hightower to ragequit using nothing but tiny specks of bleed damage and across the map random crit guillotine kills. Random crits can be turned into something that requires actual skill to use, you just have to not be boring and uncreative to find those ways

[@wackaducky]

You ever played D&D before? A game that entirely works around chance, yet people love it. Why? Because it allows you to play as silly characters doing silly things. Your good character died to a nat1? Oh darn, it was pretty funny though, time to make a new one. Your new character is weak as shit? Oh look, a nat20, the shit character is being useful despite being shit! I think people should treat TF2 more like D&D and less like some kind of E-sport

[@dkskcjfjswwwwwws413]

​@@wackaduckyhow about i treat it like quake instead. because its quake

[@shellpoptheepicswordmaster755]

Dnd is designed around randomness, tf2 is not.

[@DesertPunks]

This was super entertaining and informative lol, great vid

[@kalukagamingfellaguy]

ty!

[@princetbug]

I agree that crits are intended to nudge players' thinking, but I don't think the intent is as you say. It's not to incentivize snowballing, it's to take away seriousness and investment in a life / killstreak. TF2 is a game intended for just having fun, it is not designed to be an E-Sport competitive game. Crits exist to add chaos and unpredictability to a match, thereby driving down the importance of winning one. Players will be plenty competitive on their own. Crits exist to forcefully curb this. That said, there are certain weapons that have random crits and in doing so break the balance of the class their on or the weapon itself. This should still be adjusted, but Crits should never be fully removed unless our priority is competition and fairness. Those two words only make up about a third of the essence of TF2.

[@McMessenger]

That comment regarding Hunt is way too damn true, jeez. Great video!

[@peika8324]

Why get gud when you can just beg gaben for crits.

[@toesnt]

you baited me w the title, im a kritzkreig main. but wasnt mad long ur jokes are for real bangers.

[@toesnt]

hey woah there pal whats with the attack on crits as a mechanic in general tho, crits are epic and loud and colorful and shake whatever my comp pocket bf has told me to put up my ass obviously. if nothing else in the game is more rewarding and fun how is it not the best mechanic in the game. and jokes aside they are alot less telegraphy than these other "moments" brought up

[@commanderdemonno9819]

@@toesnt what's the need to get so hasty they could genuinely prefer the extra offensive power that the kritzkrieg provides compared to the stock medigun or maybe they play mvm that's probably more likely

[@Velvety_]

Great video, but I don’t get how some people in the comments see removing crits in a chaotic game like tf2 as making it more competitive when it’s just trying to make the games balance stronger

[@danielsurvivor1372]

Don't you see how majority of "remove random crits uwu" people like Dane are all tryhards? Look at Uncletopia, it's filled to the brim with random crit haters and it's so fcking tryhardy, almost as much as tf2 central and other comp places. Also if you care about balance you should probably restrict engineer class limit to 3, because it's NOT fun fighting dozen of engies AND it's permanent annoyance in game unlike random crits which are random. So yes, they should remain because they're like tryhard repellent, sure some of em still play casual sadly (just like how some insects adapt to bug sprays etc) but it's good enough

[@kalukagamingfellaguy]

tf2 players are mortified by change even if it's positive change. Ironically, crits make tf2 less chaotic by snuffing out any cool fights you could have before they can be cool.

[@HeDronHeDronHedron]

@@danielsurvivor1372uncletopia is not nearly as tryhardy as comp, have you considered being better

[@Velvety_]

@@danielsurvivor1372 I used to play uncletopia a lot I stopped playing because I was tired of playing payload all the time the only difference was that there wasn’t any bots and no fresh installs to dog on. Causal still has try hard soldiers, scouts, krit demos, and snipers in every lobby. You can still act goofy in those servers. And random crits aren’t a 100 percent random they usually go to the player who does more damage, this has been debunked for years

[@dkskcjfjswwwwwws413]

​@@danielsurvivor1372>random crits repel tryhard even doe they have statistically the highest chance of getting them ok buddy

[@ernesto6595]

the background music is soo damn good.

[@Imirui]

The only time having critical hits has influenced me to do anything at all was when I was playing engineer and my team’s medic healed me during his krits charge as he was retreating and I got 2 kills with them, so I changed from the stock shotgun (my beloved) to the widowmaker to take better advantage of the crits.

[@mroostache]

NUH UH!!

[@kalukagamingfellaguy]

yuh huh

[@CursedSFMS]

NOAH UH!!

[@doctorson7026]

9:32 chat is that real?

[@GameFreak64101]

I love Random Critz in TF2 It's funny. Funnier when someone complains about it

[@gremlinton9815]

Random Crits are Funny and Entertaining

[@danielsurvivor1372]

All the "remove random crits" videos are all the evidence we need to keep random crits. They keep away tryhards from casual. Sure it's not perfect but it still works. Anti random crit ppl are SO obsessed with funny shiny rockets they go specifically to no random crit servers like Uncletopia, keeping casual servers still casual.

[@Labyrinth6000]

100% agree! You know something that past, dead FPS game have in common? No crits! Oooh beat that HATERS! Random crits is what made TF2 truly and distinctively unique!

[@leonardo9259]

All the remove random crits are evidence that Valve is not doing shit about them, so they can cry and cope all they want about it and we keep to enjoy our game. They can go isolate themselves in their Baby's First Comp match if they want

[@leonardo9259]

Literally nothing about your response makes sense in respect to the comment but sure lmao @@Labyrinth6000

[@dkskcjfjswwwwwws413]

lmao tryhards get the most crits and the soldier main with his medic gf will always curbstomp you lil bro...

[@dkskcjfjswwwwwws413]

​@@leonardo9259>they can cry a- ACK!

[@bugflug]

the name made me think this was about the medigun. you foul deciever

[@Jigsaw765]

Very good and vapid points- however I just genuinely find the chaos and anger crits cause to be really funny. That’s not to say they’re a net good for the game but for me they’re hehe funny crit c:

[@montauk1684]

I'll play Hunt with you Kaluka, I need someone else to be bad with me.

[@Tenshi04Akuma]

You know, Crits are fun for just 2 reasons : -Hitscan crits can barelly kill more than 1 person, fair enough. It's just a simple kill out of luck. -But any AoE crits can be reflected, giving the pyro an advantage against an enemy that got that "High moment". Crits are both a fear factor and reward factor. If your enemies are doing too well, then they are gonna have more of those "high moments". If you happen to feel to confident because 1 guy who is playing a class you counter and that you're about to destroy them. This is a painfull reminder that you should have been more carefull and thinkfull about a better strategy. As a Scout main, rarelly do I die by unfair random crits : -When the enemy spams in a corner. -When a single crit sticky managed to somehow get near everyone in a corridor. -Or I got shot down by anyone using the shotgun or any scattergun variation during a duel. But If I play my cards right, Rarelly do those moments even come in to ruin my day. I simply don't let the time for my opponent to think before they die. Or if they use AoE I find a class counter. Spy doesn't fear random crits when unnoticed. Sniper is vulnerable but can still retreat when in need. Scout dodging can be quite Godly. And Pyro can LITTERALLY send back an attack that would have killed your entire team. The creativity is WAY more than what people think. You need to pay attention to every situation possible and what you could have done to prevent that : -Enemy is a tank at full health. >Don't ambush unless you can one-shot him. -A large group of enemy in a single area. >Don't try to push without uber or any forces to flank them. -You duel against the same class. >Be done with it quick, anytime lost due to single interaction is major in the grand scheme of things. Any time you die to a random crit shouldn't think : It's not my fault, they got lucky. You should ALWAYS think : How could have I prevented that ? What did I miss ? Could I have flanked them instead ? Crits ends frontal interactions quickly. But they cannot prevent real strategic plays. A random crit can snuff out an engineer. But his LV3 building remains because it's immuned to it. You need actual effort to take it down, no amount of crits is going to save you against a sentry you just walked into. "You shouldn't complain about the gap, you need to think a work around."

[@ranimdude]

*Stands up* I like random crits

[@50-frames-of-stick71]

13:50 really the frontier justice doesn’t reward you for failing to protect your sentry but forces you out of your comfort zone

[@aneasteregg8171]

At least a Diamondback Spy has to actually, you know, play Spy once in a while to get crits. Old Ambassador made Spies with good aim unreasonably powerful with negligible drawbacks at all times.

[@buraunii]

Lower base damage and firing speed is not "negligible". All it does is bottleneck the type of gunspy you are allowed to be, in order to be good with the ambassador. Getting headshots with the amby is already a hard thing to do, especially on moving targets. Not to mention, stock revolver has always been a more relatable alternative, so the amby was never the "meta" option even back in the day. The nerf it got, only punished good gun spy players, bad gun spy players saw little to no real difference in their gameplay other than their random "shot in the dark" headshots doing little damage every once in a while. There is a reason why most people though the nerf was overblown.

[@ThatWolfArrow]

​@@buraunii"but it was skill based" isn't a valid reason for something to remain in a broken state. And in the case of the old amby, the fact that spy could 2 tap 8/9 classes from across maps without the movement penalty that comes from scoping while also being able to cloak disguise didn't just make him "diet sniper", it arguably made him better than sniper since he was far more mobile and far less predictable. You didn't even need to worry about spy syndrome at those ranges. People hate the Diamondback for these exact same reasons, so a weapon that guarentees crits at any time isn't okay simpliy because headshots need skill to pull off.

[@buraunii]

@@ThatWolfArrow I am not going to argue anecdotal experiences and "arguably" remarks. Your OPINION is that the amby was broken. I disagree. I say it was not that broken. At the very least was undeserving of a nerf that severe. And I like how you are trying to equate the Amby 2 tapping classes, to the DB 2 tapping classes, as if headshots at a slower ROF, is the equivalent to 2 rapid bodyshots.

[@tzorfireis425]

Old amby was objectively just OP Consider the fact that Sniper is universally regarded as one of the most powerful classes in TF2, and is widely argued to be extremely difficult to counter without another sniper, and all sniper has is headshots, and struggles with dealing with enemies around corners because he just lacks the mobility to get access to heads, and only has relatively few spots he can safely snipe from. All this makes him predictable and even if you don’t have any means of fighting him, you at least can find positions where you’re safe from him. Even if he kills you, you will know where he is thanks to the kill cam, and he’s not likely to stray far from that position by the time you respawn, since he’s really vulnerable when out of position. Now consider Spy. Spy can be anywhere thanks to cloak. He can also use disguises to make it less likely to be spotted before he makes a play, especially if he’s at a distance where you’re less likely to be focusing on him. He even can see the health of his enemies, so he knows exactly who he can shoot to instantly kill. Now give him the ability to deal 102 damage on command, and he becomes extremely dangerous with very little you can do to help your team if he kills you, because he can just cloak and disguise and now there’s no reliable way to even track him down if he’s far away. Both old amby and the diamondback practically make spy into sniper, except with better info and he can be anywhere on the map he wants, and the old amby has the advantage of him not even needing to worry about getting backstabs and revealing himself before deleting anyone he wants with no warning and no answer. Both are broken, it’s mostly a question of what specific flavor of broken each one is

[@errentthought9057]

I liked how Vindictus did it. When you got a crit in that game you would then have access to some moves that were different to your usual kit, once. This means getting a good dice roll can expand the POSSIBILITIES of gameplay instead of just enhancing what's there. And you can make the choice to not use it if that would be a bad decision.

[@ZoofyZoof]

You keep saying people don't like it when crits is used against them But I honestly don't care. Crits do not bother me whatsoever. TF2 is and always will be a casual game to me, nothing more. If you get bothered by getting killed by a crit, you take the game too seriously. You want it to become something it isn't designed to be.

[@RandomFurry07]

Most people dude There are always exceptions

[@dkskcjfjswwwwwws413]

its designed to be a fun game. being kicked in the nuts for no reason isnt very fun (its very arousing doe!!!) i hope you realize your argument can be applied to literally anything in the game. if i see you complain about sniper even once you will be permanently banned from life

[@ZoofyZoof]

Sniper isn't even remotely the same thing as random crits. One is random and cannot be controlled, one is not random at all and depending on the skill of the player can happen consistently all the time. Random instant death is ten times better than something that consistently happens every time from any distance away. @@dkskcjfjswwwwwws413

[@mr.monkey354]

One requires skill and the other happens because the game decided to kill you because the pub stompers needs to pub stomp even harder and shut down a game, atleast when dying to a sniper I know it actually required said sniper to have the skill to hit headshots, when I die to a crit​, I know gaben wants me dead

[@gupster2270]

It's so refreshing seeing TF2 players not shit on overwatch for once, you're so real for that

[@RandomFurry07]

I really hate some of em random crit likers who genuinely believe and say that random crits is what makes TF2 a casual game There are quite a few casual games with none of these random crits, BattleBit is quite an example of one casual game with no random crits, its more on its community (theres also the proximity voice chat, but what does that server with no community) The game is casual due to its community being influenced by its geniunely good and goofy artstyle, and charming characters

[@user-bkey]

i will say that i agree with those random crit likers because you cant really take a game seriously when any shot can just delete you but i think there are other factors like having 12 whole people on both teams (and the fact that all of them can be the same class) in casual that would keep tf2 pretty casual without them

[@Labyrinth6000]

TF2 was never designed to be a comp game, especially since comp players who are motivated by money are influencing the game badly, trying to turn it into CoD.

[@RandomFurry07]

@@Labyrinth6000 not every comp player wants COD, and it's not even an eSports, y'all perceive actual criticism to be "y'all want the game to be comp" of course not, it will ruin the game, I want consistency, not a sweat fest Atleast try to actually critique not like"hehe it's funny though" "shut the fuck up comp lover" or "y'all wanna turn this game into a tryhard heaven" I'm not a comp player ffs

[@RandomFurry07]

@@Labyrinth6000 not every comp wants the COD, and it's not even an eSports, y'all perceive actual criticism to be "y'all want the game to be comp" of course not, it will ruin the game, I want consistency, not a sweat fest Atleast try to actually critique not like"hehe it's funny though" "shit the fuck up comp lover" or "y'all wanna turn this game into a tryhard heaven"

[@dkskcjfjswwwwwws413]

​@@Labyrinth6000tfw you have no idea what youre talking about and also have no idea what quake or tfc was like

[@yeah9989]

11:58 disliked the video for this one sentence but to undo the algorithm damage this might have done I'm commenting and kicking myself in the balls because this is one of the best cases against random crits I've ever seen, tons of ideas I had never even considered along with kaluka being generally hilarious like usual

[@jollygrapefruit786]

God it's refreshing to see actually funny tf2bers. Soundsmith single handedly ruined this communities sense of humor.

[@22burnsie]

Imo there’s a lot of funny content makers in the community and that’s not including sound

[@dkskcjfjswwwwwws413]

muh casual ragdolls even doe tf2 is diet quake