This Is Why People Don't Like Lloyd Evans AKA John Cedars

[@marafayde1285]

That part where Lloyd harassed and screamed at Louise for over an hour to apologize made me so sad. And even saying sorry couldn’t defuse his rage. You know that that was Dijana’s everyday. My heart hurts for her.

[@parisda2841]

Ditto

[@KameronFader]

This right here. What we have all been through is a shadow compared to the daily abuse that Dijana goes through. A lot was cut from the video to protect her, but she is way more abused than the public knows :( I hope she can find the strength to leave

[@JoeBManco]

@@KameronFader If Dijana were to leave, divorce Lloyd and write a book, it would be a best seller. She and her daughters would be out from under this awful man and have a chance at a better life without him bullying and abusing them.

[@jacquij3831]

@@KameronFader I guessed when she said not to mention her , and he never stopped talking about her! Also he rambled on for more than an hour in that livestream and not once did he make a public apology to her. Many may have missed his saying the age of his youngest daughter and looking at how long and often he's been using S workers . Just using his family to shield himself

[@Ozzyjo]

@@jacquij3831 You are absolutely correct, he does use his family as a shield. He is vile

[@JonesyR233]

I forgot how pathetic/ horrendous that fake crying scene was! Almost as bad as Amber Heards performance. 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@NoTalkinnn-ASMR]

I thought the same thing! Thought, wow, we certainly get to see this type of behavior a lot these days.

[@stevenclarke5606]

I found it totally disgusting and I no longer watch his channel, he’s a pathetic excuse for a man!

[@gregjones8412]

At least she has her looks to somewhat redeem her.

[@marshroanoke]

He really could have avoided all of this if he just accepted the criticism and apologized to the people he hurt. Instead he doubled down, shamed those who criticized him, and now is pursuing legal action against other exjw activists. He’s literally acting like the watchtower taking legal action against those that disagree with him. His ego is off the charts

[@momstuff3489]

More than an apology, he needs to stop presenting himself as a CSA Advocate. He is not good representation.

[@observerlink4124]

Very true! Lloyd is really, quite literally, his own worst enemy. He's quite self-destructive actually. If he would just shut the F*** up, that would be the first step towards getting himself out of this train-wreck situation he's in. If he could manage some actual humility and contrition that would be the second step. But to expect any of this from Lloyd would be like expecting a paralyzed man to run at a track meet.

[@JoeBManco]

This is such a well done video showing how awful Lloyd Evans can be. It isn't a coincidence or a conspiracy that everybody that gets close to Lloyd eventually has the same experience.

[@KameronFader]

Exactly. The mentality of a Narcissist emotionally maxes out at ages 8-11.

[@JoeBManco]

@@KameronFader I have been warning people about Lloyd for years. It wouldn't surprise me if I warned you as well. In the event I was rude, I apologize.

[@schrecksekunde2118]

Yeah he's amazing at it, I've hardly ever seen such a well cut video

[@yvonne3903]

I was only on Ex JW sites on KZbin 2/3 months when I disagreed with Lloyd, he was defending a guy whose wife had been groped by another JW male in her workplace, and her husband decided she didn't need a personal apology and he had accepted an apology for her, which having been out in the big bad world for over 40+ years (except if your totally ignorant) this would not happen. Someone had questioned Lloyd's acceptance of this behaviour without question, and he went off on her calling her a busybody typical exJW. She wasn't an exJW she was on the page getting information about JW because her little brother was getting involved with JW. I agreed with her and was surprised that nobody else on all the comments disagreed, the whole scenario went above their heads and it felt like oh shit I'm back at KH. So then he went off on me,( I had called it patriarchal behaviour that the guy was treating his wife like a piece of property) telling me it's not patriarchal not everything is patriarchal. So I reckoned he must be newly out and still not learned proper behaviour, that he was still learning, well that didn't go down well as you can imagine, it was like I has stepped on a hornets net. I unsubscribed and decided exJW were still in the dark age if they were unaware of these basic tenets of behaviour. It's nice to listen to your channel, very different from Lloyd and I'm impressed.

[@JoeBManco]

@@yvonne3903 I can easily see that happening.

[@MentallyDiseased]

Great job on this. Editing is on point, no holding back, and the ending 🔥

[@KameronFader]

Improvise, adapt, overcome 😂

[@JoeBManco]

Germ, when can we expect your own summary of the Lloyd experience?

[@grrb5929]

@@JoeBManco @Mentally Diseased, yeah. Eager to hear what you have to say.

[@hektorlinko]

I'm new here...well I'm 48 and left when I was 17 in the early 90's and follow your channel as well as everyone here including Lloyd Evans. So is lloyd disfellowshipped from the ex jw's community? I follow JT and Lacy Cee, Altworldly, Fifth, you, Wendy Renay, Jay the comedian, and a few others and I thought everyone here in the ex jw community was on the same page? Keep in mind I just started jumping on this about a year ago and still binging channels so this is all new for me considering I like lloyd evans and didn't really know what happened. I also saw most of these channels on the Netflix Leah Remini on Scientology special so I'm a little distraught. Does everyone now hate lloyd?

[@thefigleaf6206]

Well done for pulling together such a well researched piece. Its clear recent behavior has not been in isolation.

[@the1bun]

Thank you for the time, effort, and care that went into making this very important video! I appreciate you reaching out to have conversations with various people in order to get the clearest most accurate picture you could. So many who watch this will walk away better educated, and better able to protect themselves from being preyed on. Thank you for including my voice. I appreciate you, fam. 💜

[@KameronFader]

Thank you for being apart of it bro 😭🖤 You helped add an extremely valuable perspective and I'm honored to have you as a friend.

[@jwprimetime9795]

Loved seeing you in here!!! Hope you’ve been doing great!!!

[@Joes45]

WHO really is KIM SILVIO though 🤔

[@jokich6379]

Makes me realize how complicated humans are and equally complicated are the dynamics in our relationships. I have taken an interest in political issues and events and realize the depth of this cesspool both culturally, nationally, and internationally.Anyone is really fortunate to have a reasonably functional family. And now we have our level of awareness raised about cults and high control groups. Thanks for sharing and doing another video. Realize you have your own life to live. Glad you waited and gave a well thought out video.

[@CappytanMusic]

Very well done, Kameron. Great editing style.

[@KameronFader]

Ty! I really wanted to do something entertaining and way more fun, despite it taking forever to film and edit 😂😭

[@KimF1]

@@KameronFader - We really appreciate all of the time, etc, you put into this great video!

[@d.-_-.b]

Threatening your partner that you'll commit suicide if you don't get what you want is exactly what L.Ron Hubbard did to Sarah Northrup, the second wife he later claimed to never have.

[@k7450]

Especially since her brother committed suicide.

[@the1bun]

Dijana, this is for you: I wanted to write a separate comment for you in case you happen to see this. If it isn't already apparent, please know that so many of us have your and the girls' backs. If you end up leaving him, I know we'd help you in any way we could. A lot of us have been in situations similar to yours, and fully understand it isn't always simple. I hope you're doing as well as you can be in the middle of all of this. You and your girls deserve so much better. Please don't hesitate to reach out to us. 💜

[@parisda2841]

Yes absolutely there are many of us here who would help you and your girls xxx

[@JoeBManco]

Excellent comment and I completely agree.

[@KimF1]

I'd be up for a GoFundMe, if and when Dijana leaves the narcissist.

[@davidwicklin9943]

Dijana most certainly deserves that support. Well said!

[@despertando-gameover7606]

I don't know but maybe Dijana can get out of that situation for good if she can get Lloyd deported to England. Being an abuser and representing a real and potential danger to her, her daughters and her parents. since he is a bum and does not have citizenship in Croatia nor does he have a house and lives in his in-laws' house, then there must be a law in Croatia that protects them from Lloyd. If anyone knows about this can you correct me.

[@yvonne3903]

NPD is also about supply whether that be positive or negative it doesn't matter. If Lloyd is threatening suicide , he'll probably be describing to his wife how he will do it, so she will have a vivid picture in her mind and she'll never know what she's going home to.

[@ExJWCaleb]

I'm so happy to see you making videos again! I don't have experience with Lloyd, but I was raised by a narcissistic psychopath elder who acted pretty much the same way Lloyd is acting, weaponizing elders and congregations, manipulating information and whatnot. I'd be happy to tell you about it if you think the comparison is worth making!

[@gr8lydeceved663]

Are we going to see an upload to your channel soon?

[@augustinetnz8314]

The use of her brother's suicide as a means to manipulate his wife is beyond disgusting. He's re-traumatizing her all because he wants to get his way and have her stay with him. Not to sound flippant over a suicide threat, but that's a bluff she needs to call out. Recommend he gets help if he feels that way but at the same time hold firm that her and the girls do not need this madness around her.

[@JoeBManco]

Just goes to show what an awful person Lloyd Evans is.

[@Rupunzelsawake]

I think his ego is too big to carry out the threat. Since the "taking the break" video his behaviour has not been that of a depressed person. Depressed people cannot fight the way he does. He got caught and that's what messed him up.

[@barbjoz63]

Wow! Thank-you for the thoughtful and well researched video. I too was a LE fan for many years. I enjoyed his scripted videos where he dissected the Watchtower events and publications but in interviews where his personality was allowed to come through there was always a something a bit "off' about him that I couldn't quite put my finger on. This video, along with thoughtful insights from others, has helped put things in focus.

[@KameronFader]

I think most of us were fans too! What seemed off? Specifically 😮

[@quackdracular7610]

@@KameronFader I don't want to respond for the OP, but as much as I appreciate his scripted content I always detected this smugness and superior attitude when he interacted with others in unscripted videos. He always had to have the final say when someone had a different take on an issue even if slightly. I saw this a few times during the pandemic video series. I have somewhat of a sixth sense about people like this.

[@Simon-Green]

Fantastic piece of work, tells it like it is. He's a manipulator but it seems like his power is waning under the light of scrutiny - he's relied on picking people off one by one so he can have the market to himself and profit off it, using his very different public persona to intimidate and make people afraid to stand up to him. Kudos to everyone who has. Remember: we're stronger together, and it protects the vulnerable if we don't allow predatory behavior in the community.

[@KameronFader]

Fuck yeah

[@daniellealvarado6253]

Absolutely screams NPD. Wow thank you for making this video. Much appreciated

[@tatianacupcakezz6929]

Every time I hear a story with detailed descriptions about narcissist abuse it’s always a little triggering. It makes me sick. Malignant narcissists already think they’re untouchable but he manipulated his way to a platform & an audience he doesn’t deserve. He must be held accountable by the community.

[@davidwicklin9943]

If Lloyd made $6,000+ on that late January livestream alone then it’s no surprise with all his patreon and other income streams he makes $250,000/yr. Gotta be one of the wealthiest, and shamelessly unremorseful people, living in Croatia nice, lush and kush with his JW in-laws. He’s the RutherFraud of the ExJW community.

[@k7450]

Thank goodness his patreons have more than halved since the start of the year!!

[@annabizaro-doo-dah]

When I found out about all of this, knowing as I did about Dijana's brother, it was as obvious to me how exactly he was controlling her.

[@xstraightedgechrisx]

I'm gonna be honest, I use to look up to Lloyd as someone who was pretty reputable and respectful as an Ex-JW activist. Now I can't even watch his videos anymore. I have to admit though, my life is so much better now that I'm not active in that community anymore.

[@jpeterse5525]

Really well researched and well done video. The production quality is stellar. Thank you for all your hard work pulling it together! 💙

[@skylandervision2.054]

Wow!!! He has talked about women getting abused and it seems like he was against this behavior and now he is revealed as an abuser to his wife, women and to others. The first time a heard about his confession my jaw was on the floor. I was so chocked. I couldn't believe it. I'm so glad the truth about him is coming out. I'm so glad you are telling this story.

[@MarioJaker]

This is incredibly well put together. One thing that stood out to me re: Lloyd calling that person “the only exJW comedian” is like…how dumb is Lloyd? Lol. Jerry Minor is very famously an exJW, was on SNL, is one of the most hardworking comic actors in television, and was on the damn Leia Remini special WITH LLOYD. Not at all the point of the video, just shows how ignorant the man is about dogmatic claims he makes (and, as Louise points out, how defensive he gets when it’s gently suggested he’s wrong)

[@thefigleaf6206]

And Donald Glover too. Loads.

[@FrozenWillow1980]

And your good self as well Jake. I find the way you bring your videos forward, they're so funny. We deal with trauma in two ways - we either laugh or cry. I think there are many ex witnesses who are comedians. Oh and just watch back on Louise's videos as well, her "Stand Up For Jehovah" ones on her katie kitten channel. I tell you, she had me buckled on the floor many times laughing away. She's also a huge support to others as well, including myself. She's wonderful. I can tell you how wonderful fig leaf is as she replied to you here, but we will be here for pages and pages - much more than Lloyds 15 pages, that's for sure. She's also a great support to many other xjw's. The activism work these ladies have done continue to astound me.

[@Simon-Green]

I don't think it's being dumb or mistaken, I think things like that are a deliberate way of putting someone down and undermining their confidence. Don't forget, his prime goal is to have no one else making content but him, so all the views are his for $$$

[@SisterSophistry]

Not to mention a bunch of humorous ex jw creators whose videos are hilarious and have saved my sanity waking up. Shout out to Katie kitten and the great apostate 💜

[@Rupunzelsawake]

Didn't Louise say "the only female ex jw comedian"? I absolutely loved her Katie Kitten Stand Up For Jehovah series. Especially "shit" stories. Lol.

[@concamon1364]

Damn Lloyd, your firey loins done pulled even Kameron out of hiatus 🥴 Glad you're back, you were one of the first EXJW channels I found when waking up.

[@jacquij3831]

he says he's "sorry" to his wife . Even that public apology to her came much later, it wasn't something he did straightaway . Also no talk of stop visiting S workers , he wanted his wife to agree to it rather than stopping .

[@JoeBManco]

I'm sure that apology went something like this. "I'm sorry Watchtower screwed up my sexuality. Now deal with it."

[@parisda2841]

He called her a head fuck for changing her mind about agreeing to an open marriage that's when he made his taking a break video and ran off to Thailand anyway

[@jwsuicides8095]

Very well laid out and explained. I'm glad you've been able to speak about what happened between yourself and Joel and Tom...and am really glad you worked it out. I had no idea that you were left unprotected by LE. I've been impressed with you since you started making vids and sharing your journey, and speaking out. You've shown lots of integrity. I know you're not looking for feel-goods, but it is important to say it.

[@junipercedar]

Easily the funniest edited video of the situation! Thank you for including so many other opinions! You do amazing work Kameron. ❤

[@carmenl163]

About a year ago Lloyd started to irritate me. He was saying things about some people that I found a bit overboard. I commented about that, first by asking questions and later by giving my opinion. The questions were left unanswered and the opinion was deleted. I immediately unsubscribed. I value free speech enormously and I don't feel comfortable supporting a YT channel that doesn't allow that. I've seen his 'apology' video and I had to turn it off at some point. He was acting like a madman and it was getting worse and worse. With every minute he seemed more delusional. I feel truly sorry for Dijana. She has her cult parents upstairs and a lunatic downstairs.

[@Martinj1417]

I was on his channel a few times back in 2018. I also saw the dark side of Lloyd before the story broke. I stopped being a patreon that day. He has blocked me on Twitter because I asked him why he is using wt tactics and suing other activists.

[@gr8lydeceved663]

Shout out to you!! Haven't seen you lately hope your good..

[@caroldanvers265]

As soon as I heard Lloyd Evans cheated on his wife on multiple occasions, I unsubbed his ass ASAP. 😒

[@cookiesontoast9981]

Unfortunately, that shit happens all the time with a lot of people, even people you wouldn't expect.. it's horrid. Even my sister in law puts her husband through mental torture by constantly cheating on him and expecting him to look after the kids while she goes out to meet guys. Honestly have almost no respect for my sister in law.

[@caroldanvers265]

@@cookiesontoast9981 people who cheat like your Sister in law have no respect for kind hearted people. I despise those who cheat and lie. Your brother deserves the best wife and sorry that happened to him.

[@BibleTales123]

Kameron , great video/ I regret I got so loud , and sorry I namedropped you . Hope you're having an awesome 2022* ~Jwft/ Tom

[@KayD]

Verrrrrrry nice. Good job all, thanks for speaking up!

[@asapstan]

I was there in San Francisco at his meet and greet.it was clear to me after meeting him that he didn't care about anything else but selling his book.I tried asking him a few questions but he blew me off after I bought his book.and that was it

[@parisda2841]

I've heard exactly the same thing from a couple of other people too

[@whatsupwatchtower]

Great job Kameron! We wondered if you’d address this and you’ve done an excellent job compiling the evidence. Thanks for being brave!

[@quackdracular7610]

Kameron, I've watched you from the beginning and have seen your struggles and growth as a young man man leaving the cult. This video demonstrates the culmination of that growth. What a great production and fair and nuanced storytelling of this ongoing saga. This dude is a real narcissist and I don't use that term lightly. Keep up the good work 👍

[@KameronFader]

I appreciate that. That means so much 🥺

[@KimF1]

Wow, what an AWESOME video! (Evans must really be flipping out right now, lol.) Thank you for making this presentation Kameron, and nice to "meet" you! 👍💕

[@JoeBManco]

In losing Kameron Fader, Lloyd just lost yet another real activist. Kameron is the real deal. Kim and Mikey's video about John Maple shows yet another big Lloyd loss as well. All we need to do is keep talking about it.

[@mainliner181]

@@JoeBManco Because you ExJWs love to talk like it's highschool.

[@normanedwards5181]

This is one of the best videos I've seen about this situation! Thanks

[@KameronFader]

Wow, thank you!

[@weezyslob]

God I love JWFairyTales so much. Lloyd is a creep and has created himself a new cult, good for him. Your journey is similar to mine though, went from JW to agnostic atheist and Lloyd’s channel was a big help. Real shame when we found out who he really is. He is the absolute worst person that could have been the face of the ex-JW community, he invalidates us. His presence in the Leah Remini special ruins it now. I will always be grateful to people like Joel and Tom and many others, but never Lloyd. Excellent video by the way, really well done.

[@governingbodylanguage2025]

3:16 We're jealous of Lloyd's large audience??? Like Telltales 300K subs??? Like ex-jw Critial thinker? Like Kim Mikey? Lloyd used a false dichotomy here. We don't care about the size of the audience, we care about the abuse, and that a hurtful abusive person is representing us! I guess he is taking care of the problem of his large audience.

[@KameronFader]

Agreed. He's using distraction techniques.

[@denishartley3828]

What a case study of narcissist behaviour. Pretty shocking.

[@joelee1195]

People should think about why Lloyd goes half way around the world to Thailand to see sex workers instead of much closer places where prostitution is regulated.

[@deenadamico2673]

Narcissists simply do NOT have the capacity to apologize. The closest you will get is a very disingenous "Sorry you took that the wrong way" or "Sorry your feelings got hurt" simply as a manipulation tactic. His behavior is so, so triggering because in addition to being raised in a toxic and controlling cult, many of us had narcissistic parents and/or family members, too.

[@bigmillionYO]

Outstanding video! I love your editing style. Thank you for making a video on this, more people need to be aware of Lloyds narcissism.

[@kme3095]

Beautiful job on this video Kameron! Thank you for this!!

[@mikeedwards2806]

Thank goodness we can comment here without being blocked or ridiculed like 'Saintly Brandon'..👍👍👍

[@nadinaaguero]

This video was really well thought out and put together. Kudos! I am glad you featured that young woman’s video that is not an Exjw, with the long black hair. She made a really good point in it where she addressed that a lot of people that leave cults or high level programming leave with a sense of anger and seek retribution, which is totally relatable in the beginning when you feel so wronged. However, if they never seek help to end up in a place of forgiveness and peace, then you have someone like Lloyd Evan’s in part. Her 2nd point even more insightful of how once you leave a cult and then find a source (Lloyd Evan’s channel) a community of like minded individuals only to find out That person is also False, the deception hits Double as you being to self doubt in your own judgment of what is or who is good. Her ending note of Trust in yourself in your strength and abilities because Cults never let you look within find answers within was a great ending Note. Mr Evan’s you do not need to apologize to me or your community because I decided to support by watching but it was Blasphemous for you to Humiliate your wife and children to try and save your hide. All things done in dark come to light Always. Your pathetic “apology” video will be there forever for your daughters to see and your wife to be reminded of the decade of Humiliation she has had to endure being marred to you and you telling the world she is not Ideal sexually. You want to be a Deviant in Thailand then free her from your grasp Be the Change you want to see in this world! Peace and Love ❤️

[@truthseekeratheist9105]

Kameron, you did a great job of presenting what's wrong with Lloyd. For so long I thought I was helping to financially support someone who was sincere. I believed the facade, the mask he wore for years. It's sad to find out that the situation was even so much more worse than what we initially thought. I don't know how anyone can continue giving him money to do whatever it is he's doing. I think what we know about him is only the tip of the iceberg. I didn't realize how badly he abused his poor wife Dijana but knowing he's Narcissistic it should be understood without saying that he's terrorizing/manipulating her mentally, physically, etc. It's disastrous to be married to someone with NPD. They become dangerous because they look at people as objects that can be possessed, and to him his wife and children belong to him; they are his possessions. His threat to take his own life is a threat aimed at Dijana; it's your fault if I kill my self, so if I do you are responsible for murder. But I really doubt Lloyd was serious about suicide. It's just a form of manipulations, quite childish really; a hollow threat.

[@cygnustsp]

I pretty much agree with everything you said. I will point out that at least Lloyd didn't do the whole "like, subscribe, I have a PayPal and Patreon" etc. Some of my favorite content creators spend up to a minute reminding people on "how to support the channel."

[@Reindeer911]

Oh yeah, Evans definitely fits all the markers of someone with NPD. There is some excellent material out there... Dr Ramani's channel, NARCDAILY (as in narcissist daily) amongst others. My mom was a narcissist, and had a close friend that turned out to be one as well, and I had known this person for over 30 years. Point being is that when Evans made that initial video that kicked off this whole mess, to me it stood out like a sore thumb. I'm still not convinced that his whole suicidal thoughts wasn't an act... narcissists generally don't commit suicide, but they would thrive on the attention that it would give them however. Let's just hope that now, since you have done an interview with Kim Silvio that you won't get harassed with any litigation letters.

[@marafayde1285]

Dr Ramani is amazing! Another channel that thoroughly covers real life examples of covert narcissism is Live Abuse Free. And Theramin Trees is another great one that examines abuse in family dynamics and religious communities.

[@KameronFader]

I wanted to use her footage, but she doesn't like it so I had to use the other channels instead. They have great insight as well. 😬

[@marafayde1285]

@@KameronFader oh good to know. Thanks for sharing that.

[@despertando-gameover7606]

@@KameronFader Dr. Ramani did not want? I wonder why not. Does she already know the case of LE?

[@WWZenaDo]

I've found the channel "Narc Survivor" to be useful, too.

[@joeyburr9415]

Simply incredible video Kameron, outstanding Job bro.👍👍👍 Things are what they are! And you are just simply telling it like it is. 👍👍👍

[@RiaCottingham]

Fantastic video, Cameron! He reminds me so much of my ex husband, it’s unreal. He’s definitely narcissistic!

[@kysweetheart1964]

I had enough of him and another team ex jw's, 2 years ago. Love Dr Carter, he helped me understand the traits of the narcissistic. Enjoyed your video.

[@DarthMagog]

Kameron, Wow this was a huge undertaking. I can't imagine the work that went into creating this video. The research and the timeline, all very well done. I hadn't realized, as a fan, how much Lloyd was doing outside of his activism. Not until recently anyway. Lloyd is very charming, well spoken and frankly did a lot for ExJW activism. And honestly I was pretty personally offended at the start of the whole controversy at the end of January. And I can imagine this must have been a challenge for you, what with Lloyd being such an inspiration to you and your own struggles with CSA in the org. Question for you, all things considered, do you think Lloyd still offers value to the ExJW movement, or do you think it would help the cause more if he were to just hard stop? Part of me still finds his work valuable, but given how well the timeline and the allegations of grooming go together (as well as his dealings in Thailand) it's very hard to want to support someone who won't admit to any potential issues in that behavior.

[@CappytanMusic]

There’s nothing Lloyd does that other creators can’t do or aren’t already doing. His only advantage was his audience size and the volume of content he was producing since he was doing it as a full time job.

[@quackdracular7610]

@@CappytanMusic 💯 correct. He is not special.

[@parisda2841]

Yes since I stopped watching his I've found some other really good ones I'm enjoying alot

[@FrozenWillow1980]

What Cappytan said. I find @Telltale - also an atheist and exjw to be much more palatable than JLE and more enjoyable because I love watching him draw as he's talking down Watchtower.

[@DarthMagog]

@@FrozenWillow1980 oh yeah. Owen was my first ExJW KZbinr that I discovered. He gave me the idea for my Jedi and Jehovah's Witness comparison essay actually. Not directly, but he did the BITE model on the Jedi. He's pretty awesome.

[@joellebrowne5714]

Absolutely brilliant. I heard a great description that fits JLE. He is a professional victim. It’s his job. James Lloyd Evans: Professional Victim.

[@governingbodylanguage2025]

The way he treated Asher was hideous. He portrays himself as so left wing and sensitive, then not care about the transgender community, and an ex-jw transgender person in particular?

[@KameronFader]

He treated Asher like ass, he deserved way better. That’s part of the reason Lloyd didn’t make it in the Crusaders documentary

[@JoeBManco]

Asher deserved better. Lloyd always has been and probably always will be a jerk to everybody that doesn't toe the line 100%.

[@Rupunzelsawake]

What Asher said about him was spot on. Poor Asher would've been considered a "regressive activist" by Lloyd...perhaps the most "regressive" of all because of speaking up inside jw "places of worship". Those were also places of abuse. He had every right to speak there and deserved support. Lloyd's very vocal discrediting of such activists must've been crushing to the very soul. So many activists went quiet and these were mostly abuse victims who had already been silenced by the organisation. Lloyd simply revictimised them and resilenced them. Unforgivable!

[@governingbodylanguage2025]

Thanks for all the love people! 🥰I keep thinking of Asher lately, after Altworldly's latest video on Purity Culture. In my head I keep using the wrong pronouns(I've been awake since 2015, so I followed Asher back in the day a bit and am used to his old pronouns that I assigned in my head), so I'm so glad I was with it enough to not do that!!! Yikes. Old dog, new tricks.

[@GG-kv8vv]

Really appreciate you sharing your experience with LE...Brings it into focus even more. Thank you Kameron.

[@Pretty_clear]

This video was so well organized. Your videography skills are 🔥 Kameron. Lloyd really lost out on a lot beautiful caring individuals. However I don’t feel sorry for him. I can only imagine that Dijana is an absolute gem of a human. And I genuinely hope that one day she can see her own beauty. Narcs degrade and beat down their supply emotionally. Until they are discarded over and over again. My heart goes out to her. And I truly hope she sees this video. Thank you Kameron for the hard work, time and dedication it took to get this information out! And thank you to the exjw members that agreed to be interviewed and speak up on your experiences. Much love to all survivors 👊🏼💪🏼❤️

[@toddhayes3506]

RIP Raymond Franz (Crisis of Conscience) Thanks #Courage

[@maegs1982]

I love that you have clips from experts on KZbin! :) i love all those people you featured as narcissist experts.

[@mikepanayiotou6520]

Very well done! There's definitely more people out there with negative experiences with Lloyd.

[@Alvanley66]

Very many thanks for this video. I have been out of the WT and have written and researched on the subject over a very long time. During those many years I have known some remarkable people working in this area, in academia and in the church. I find it really quite offensive that this guy LE should set himself up as the leading anti-WT activist when i reality he is a huge liability to the cause of freedom from WT influence.

[@3rz-rhymesreasonsandwritte437]

Really feeling the hurt and frustration of your comedian lady guest. How grueling. One hour interrogation! Sounds like a one man band JW judicial hearing. Hugs to her 🤗

[@jwsuicides8095]

Louise used to make the most hilarious ex JW vids!

[@SisterSophistry]

Brilliant video Kam 👏🏻

[@lpoolloulou-theythem]

Thanks for making this. So many people were affected by Lloyd's behaviour. Myself included. Same story, not long woken up, Lloyd had me on his channel. Then I made a comment on Twitter and Lloyd attacked me. I gave up my activism because I was too fragile emotionally to stand up for myself. I feel angry at myself for not standing my ground but I do understand why. Long story short - I know what he's like - he's been like this with so many people.

[@KameronFader]

Oh shit, what happened exactly

[@lpoolloulou-theythem]

@@KameronFader I'll email you.

[@governingbodylanguage2025]

The amount of people I'm waiting to stand with Dijana is getting smaller daily. Yesterday, it was the Recovering from Religion foundation, today you! It makes the community feel safer and more inclusive to women and all genders. A Million Thanks. ps. Asher please correct me if I said that wrong. I mean it you lovely soul.

[@EX-JW-SJD]

This just opened my eyes. I defended him so much around the time he had a breakdown. I work with a narcissus, and the relationship is toxic as fuck. I really understand now.

[@DARKELLAKEL]

We offered to interview him and give him a chance to explain his behavior and the many, many allegations surrounding him, he quickly declined.

[@TheNinja67]

Great job covering the experience that you had with our colorful exjw community. There are definitely a few predators like L.E. that take advantage of newly escaped exjws - I’m sorry that you had to go through it. I remember when you erased the comments for L.E. but I knew you would come around because you had the courage to wake up, leave the JWs and speak up about your abuse - and you did not disappoint. You’re awesome, keep doing you

[@jacquij3831]

The treatment of Kameron was disgraceful in the first instance. Instead of yelling at people who aren't ITK why not take time to gently explain the situation and show them why . LE isn't the only A whole in this community

[@robmullin1128]

Lloyd doesn’t realise that his behaviour only serves to reinforce the organisations view and rhetoric regarding “apostates”.

[@chrisjcombs]

Wow. Well done, Kameron.

[@micheleburch5410]

Great job Kameron! I just read my previous comment and am feeling quite a bit different. I hadn't had time to watch the whole thing before, but now that I have, I am disgusted. Poor Dijana and the baby girls! Lloyd is a sick man and needs to get help, but Dijana and the girls need to get away from this sick person. He will only abuse, control, and manipulate them. That seems to be who he is. I have to admit that I have really been struggling to not automatically judge Lloyd because that feels kind of "JW-ish" to me and I never want to be like them again. Having said that, Lloyd is so much like JWs still and that is just plain toxic, emphasis on the "ic", as in icky. I wish that Dijana could read through all these posts and know how loved she and the girls are by so many and how no one would ever let them go without if she left Lloyd. Divorce is a very frightening thing, but staying in a toxic and abusive marriage would be terrifying too! Children would much rather come from a broken home than live in one! I have a friend who escaped an abusive marriage and I wrote a poem for her. This is her story: The Bolt:By Michele Burch She blotted her bruises with makeup till they could never be found. She's glad she can take his beatings without even making a sound. She tip toes around his anger never knowing what will light the fuse. When his rage explodes like dynamite her fear seems to make him amused. Her kids don't know what is happening. She's the one who takes all his flack. She vows in her heart if that changes she'll leave and never go back. One night while bathing her daughter the welts on her back brought to light When asked, she said "Daddy hurt me". That's it! They were leaving that night! He was passed out in bed with a bottle the children all tucked in their beds. As scared as she was to be leaving staying now promised more dread. She needed the courage to escape him. She wandered out to his work shop. While digging through junk on a table a large bolt rolled and fell with a plop. She picked up that bolt and started thinking just what that bolt was about. It was cold, it was hard, and so strong. She would be like that bolt to get out! She quietly packed up some clothing for her and her children so fast. She had no clue where she was going but she had to make violence her past. She ran with her kids and life that night, her courage shown like that bolt in the sun. She had to do what she knew was right. Thanks to that bolt, she finally won! I put packets of this poem and a large bolt together for safe houses to hand out to abuse survivors. Please Dijana, if you read this, just know that you will never be alone! We all love you and the girls so much! No one should have to live in fear. You cannot fix him as he is sick. But there is a whole lot you can do for yourself and those babies! Please Honey! Please think about it!

[@moniqueroper4908]

kameron, when I first woke up from this cult, your tik toks are one of the very first forms of “apostate” material I’ve ever viewed. Even before I discovered Lloyd. Lloyd was a huge part to my awakening, but I just thought I’d tell you that you were equally as apart of that, as was he. You replied to me on one of my tweets congratulating me for leaving. Lloyd also said something to me via Twitter and I just have to say they equally made me feel seen and heard by this community. Idk where I’m going with this comment but I feel you should know that your content meant as much to me as Lloyd’s did and I’m grateful there are more people in this community making good content helping others to wake up, while also inspiring them to tell their own stories. Thanks.

[@garybishop5293]

Haven't seen any of your stuff before, but hell, you're good! Well put together, edited, sound etc. Most of all, wow 👊 didn't know what you've just put out there! You'll be on his going nowhere litigation list before you know it! 😃 liked how you've picked up on djanas plight, very good of you. Trouble is, Lloyd is gonna hate this much truth being said about him and also Djana. Expect some reaction. The narcissist is a walking damage limitations machine.

[@parisda2841]

A big tantrum coming lol

[@peterbunyan3924]

Very enlightening Kameron, thank you. l used to follow him but no more straight after his rant about his history with prostitutes etc.he is a disgrace in my opinion. lt is true he deletes any negative comments, look at the comments,they are all "l love you lloyd" 😂

[@Trabantoslaw]

Some people leave cult but still have cult mentality. They can't stand criticism and think they have the only truth which makes them better than the non-believing subhumans. Evans is one of them.

[@MartySeeks]

Glad you finally got the handle on Lloyd's true nature. Better late than never. Great sumup.

[@loriwatts5463]

That was awesome Kameron!!! Truth will always be the truth.

[@BethHeadley]

I so badly want this video to go VIRAL! Really well done!! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@beautyaddict08]

This is a brilliant piece of work. I often think about Djiana and the children and watching this illustrates why. Even if she cannot admit it now, she is in an intolerable situation.

[@empathlady6699]

You go Kameron! As always, your diligently on point gentle style, mirrors your true inner light. L.E. would be well served to learn from you what an honorable man actually looks like! Btw, Thank you for doing this video on Utube for those of us not on other social media's to view 😊

[@annabizaro-doo-dah]

Kameron Lloyd is 40 ish not 50😳.....your'll be next on the litigation list for your defamatory "untruths"😂😂about his age!!!

[@KameronFader]

👨🏼‍🦲👓🤏🏼Gawd. He's only 40ish? He ages like a milk carton in the sun.

[@JoeBManco]

Lloyd was born September 1979.

[@SisterSophistry]

🤣 he certainly looks 50

[@Rupunzelsawake]

Of everything said in this video I think that will get LEs attention most!

[@jwprimetime9795]

Gravity is a bitch!

[@Bad80y1]

Lesson from all this. You left a abusive cult to join another abusive cult. The cult of Lloyd Evans. I fell into his wit, charm, and pretty much worshipped the guy. He made awesome videos. But like the behind the curtain for Watchtower has been clearly exposed, the Lloyd Evans Cult has also been exposed. Be careful and tread lightly that you do not fall in the grips of another cult. Great video Cameron. You laid it all out perfectly.

[@observerlink4124]

Great video Kameron! Thanks for showing this history of 'him'.

[@maegs1982]

Nice job, Kameron. :) i haven't watched the whole thing yet, but this looks like an awesome take.. 👏 well done!

[@JoeBManco]

This video would make for a good subject in your next collaboration with Fateful Slave.

[@maegs1982]

@@JoeBManco i was thinking the same thing 😊

[@TheScotsalan]

Am I alone in comparing LE to Amber Heard 👍😂

[@TheScotsalan]

And no, thats not an accusation of abuse. 😂👍😳

[@KameronFader]

And Jada Pinkett Smith too 😂

[@allenhannah56]

Riiiiight! I literally love to see Lloyd on court TV. Whilst he attempts to sue others for defamation.

[@TheScotsalan]

@@allenhannah56 I normally avoid these celeb things totally (but I often watch the high profile crime trials), but this depp heard thing has really captured lots of ppl. And to be honest, I dont think I have ever seen such a massive public opinion against one person.

[@allenhannah56]

@@TheScotsalan Yeah, I usually have no idea what's going on in the celebrity world, Mainly because I don't care. I didn't even know any on the past issues with Heard/Depp. But, Everyone has been talking about it. So I was curious. I do find if fascinating. Between the two. The language they use, Discussing the abuse between the two. I'm sure both of them have issues and was toxic on both sides. But, it's clear that one of them (you can decide who that may be 😉) Is deflecting everything. It does remind be alot of the Behavior Lloyd has.

[@TheMetallicaMonster]

Honestly something about him gave me the willies in the first 30 seconds I saw him speak.

[@kajolxx]

Masterpiece …. ✌🏿

[@thesoundtrackofmylife]

Thoroughly enjoyed this......wonder if your video will get you down as one of the Magnificent Seven?

[@toryxjw9263]

I was on Lloyd’s channel a few times I said something years ago about how Something didn’t seem right and I was attacked hard by all of his supporters .

[@juicebox2973]

Been missing you thanks for the information

[@lloydevansparody7695]

Powerful! Must see!

[@gailenno508]

Thank you for a very well put together and informative video, the best I’ve seen by far. I’m very concerned about Dijana obviously her and the girls are the real victims here. A word of caution we don’t know the full extent of her alleged abuse, every effort must be taken to protect her and the girls. My daughter works with abuse victims and stresses this is a delicate situation to be handled with caution. Thanks for reaching out to Dijana.

[@Angry20Something]

Thank you for pointing this out. His wife is definitely the victim in all of this, but she has to tread carefully. And he is no doubt taking his rage out on her every time another person calls him out.

[@lydiacatherine2260]

I didn't care for LE from the beginning of my waking up and leaving days. I got SO MUCH heat for it from other exjws. When all of this broke, it validated my intuition on him.

[@Summonsloth]

I didn't like his vibe for a while, but this video explains a whole lot. smh

[@babscrosier]

I don't know what the law is in croatia but in other countries we advise if someone threatens suicide to call the police. In many countries it's the polices job to deal with that. That way the abuser can't keep using it for leverage. Love to Dijana

[@jwsuicides8095]

I feel for Dijanna. I was in a relationship where the guy threatened suicide if I left him...like Dijanna I'd experienced a loved one's suicide and it was my weakest spot. I absolutely didn't want to be in a relationship with him. In truth he had no intention of killing himself but I was in a constant panic of worry and concern, not sleeping as I'd be wondering if he was safe. He was a solid liar and thankfully an event happened that made me realise it was 100% about manipulation.

[@jwsuicides8095]

@kylekataryn Interesting points. There ARE medically supportive places if someone is in crisis - if someone doesn't take them then they don't care about you.

[@cygnustsp]

These people are terribly afraid of their reputations being harmed. My ex would get so angry if anyone made even a polite, helpful recommendation. She took it personally and would loudly complain that she was being accused of being a bad mother. Which she was.

[@Adventures2024-AD]

Excellent, funny, balanced video!! Positive thoughts to Diana and girls. Once she sees the harm LE’s behavior is on her daughters then she will muster the courage to leave. An abusive marriage is similar in my opinion to being raised in an abusive cult! Inside we are told and feel we are worthless- but once we see someone we love more then the abuser hurt we muster up the tremendous courage to leave. In effect we are the superhero because it literally feels like you have to have superpowers to leave these types of situations! Then afterwards you say why didn’t I do it sooner👍🤪

[@KameronFader]

I couldn't have said it any better myself.

[@rocknrallsoul94rockero4]

I thank him for waking me up but man I hope he gets help

[@joeyburr9415]

There was someone before loyd appeared on the scene. Her name was Evie, I can’t think of her last name. But she is the one that started my awaking process. She was/ is a very nice, but no nonsense person that shoots straight from the hips. She is one of my hero’s for sure. Look her up by using her name in connection with watchtower. Something should come up on her. 👍

[@lucylou1605]

I remember Evie. It was Evie Brooklyn, right?

[@joeyburr9415]

@@lucylou1605 yes, that’s her. Thanks ! 👍😊