Kansas State vs. BYU Review | PFF Grade Release Show

In this episode, Max and Dalton review BYU's massive upset of Kansas State.
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[@amahana6188]

A BYU night game in Provo is big ask for almost any team. That place is NUTS at night.

[@amahana6188]

@kevinm9246 Diet Coke and Root Beer lol

[@austinflake3938]

Yup.

[@fredloeper8579]

I hear they 24-1 at night in Provo. Really?

[@jayargh1132]

There’s a reason they’re called the vampire Cougs

[@tombadil64]

​@kevinm9246Mormons get wild on caffeine 🗣️🗣️

[@sidbiggs8687]

Fair analysis. BYU fan and I would have picked KSU for this game. They are very athletic and an excellent team. BYU defense looks elite. They held an SMU team that put 66 points on TCU to 15 points and held KSU to 9. Hopefully BYU can sustain some momentum to represent the conference well.

[@aljole683]

BTW…nice balanced analysis, good use of the numbers to analyze issues. No fanboi BS, just reporting and opinions based on what you saw. Nicely done.

[@typeofguyto]

Everything about this game came down to the atmosphere. Ive never been in a stadium like that. Every play was loud and KC had 6 or more false starts. It was so loud the toddlers in front of me were crying and covering their ears.

[@typeofguyto]

KC was dominating until the fumble and then the stadium erupted. Once they gave the stadium life, it was over.

[@clads861]

Bruv I was there. That fumble turned everything into an earthquake

[@DrDarrenSilvester]

it looks like the big 12 championship goes through the state of Utah

[@9474sammus]

Looking like it might be the state of utah as a utah fan i know byu is a solid team but to beat the number 2 or 3 school in the big 12 is crazy utah is def the number 1 but i wouldnt mind byu being number 2 this year could be a holy war championship

[@loftyguy11]

It's only 4 weeks into the season. But man, what a return to the glory days of that rivalry if it happens!

[@justinkiggins3106]

For now, that can change very quickly if BYU reads their own press. Next weeks game will tell us how they handle success

[@stevenspainhower5493]

Probably

[@joechristiansen6016]

Too early to tell for sure, but exciting if it is true!

[@inoketaufalele562]

Taggart, Kelly, and Glasker! That LB trio might be the best in the Big 12! Shout out to Glasker went to my high school Bingham High School LFG 💪🏾💪🏾

[@johnerb8512]

I always tell my fellow big 12 buddies of other teams that winning at LES at night ain’t easy for anyone. 9-1 at LES in night games that start after 7pm the past 10 matchups

[@Bofadeez467]

BYU needs to stay locked in. Stay Focused. As a cougar fan, BYU can celebrate momentarily over this win but then get right back into focusing for their next opponent.

[@bry0ung]

I agree. This team could finish 6-7, which is something BYU could do and it wouldn't surprise their life-long fans.

[@Jonas-22]

@@bry0ung 6-7 is crazy

[@notsure7899]

Great follow up show. Respect for owning up to a missed call - you make up for it with great analysis of the game and recognition of the talent on this Cougar defense. I hope you pick up a bunch of BYU fans!

[@Brandonhart100]

Was watching after the fumble recovery and td. I told my wife after kstate got the ball… there’s a minute left they should run the ball or they could force an interception here… crowds too crazy. Then, interception. Sometimes you just need to go into the half.

[@dalecaswell4217]

I get there was some frustration on KState's part -- thinking they probably left too many pts on the field in the 1st half -- & wanting really badly to make some of them up in the closing minute. Stat-wise & performance-wise, you guys had no reason to think you wouldn't probably win the 2nd half as well as the 1st. And you of course would like to keep a healthy lead away from home. Tough, tough meltdown for a young QB to take on the chops, I'm sure. I was very proud of my Cougs' performance, but that final score was an utter anomaly.

[@michcoug]

Yep, sure guys. BYU "only" had a grinding win against an SMU team who just hung 66 points on TCU........SMH

[@occoug]

This is the type of loss that made Mack Brown leave Texas. BYU at night is no joke.

[@montymangum3214]

Thank you for the very fair, balanced and honest analysis!!!! Best review I've seen.

[@mustanggun]

I love seeing sports reporters eat their words.

[@bighornbasin]

It looks as though Utah will be the team to beat in the Big 12 this year. But BYU D makes you think they might have something to say about it.

[@twotwentyswift]

If Utah is the team to beat why did they only manage to squeak out a 3 point win over a mediocre team?

[@montymangum3214]

BYU isn't just a QB factory, they are also a QB crusher......ask Craig Erickson.

[@ToxicEbolaBoy]

I rode the bus to the game, all BYU fans were very nervous and quiet. We definitely did not expect the absolute best down that happened, and I can say it was a much different ride back afterwards

[@dalecaswell4217]

Some nights you just run into a buzz saw. Before KState started giving away all their appliances & furniture w under 2 remaining in the first half -- I think I speak for most Y fans in saying I didn't know how we could compete with their offensive speed & their Front-7 push. We were feeling VERY fortunate to be down only 3 versus an opponent who moved at will on us. That final score was an absolute anomaly. And frankly, it's the best I've seen BYU perform in a long, long time. It gives me hope we can continue to improve as a team even if our most talented RB continues to be an absentee -- or is never able to give us close to 100% when he returns.

[@twotwentyswift]

An opponent that "moves at will" ...and ends up with a total of 9 points on zero touchdowns. 😂

[@dalecaswell4217]

@@twotwentyswift In the 1st half, crowd-induced KState penalties had something to do with that, did they not?

[@LubricatedHeelys]

Yeah let’s put a lil more respek on our name gents, go cougs! 💙🤙

[@craigolsen8057]

Wonderful commentary!!

[@Tannermortimer]

I want the helmets!!! So cool. You need to swap out BYUs white helmets to out Royal Blue Helmets.

[@danjohnson8556]

That royal blue helmet is sick!

[@PFFCFB]

Gotta get the royal blue ones!

[@nathanvandyke9951]

I love this new defense that Jay Hill has put together. It's a true "bend, don't break" defense. Didn't allow any big plays, and kept K State out of the end zone. And the offense is finally good enough to capitalize on the turnovers that the defense is giving them.

[@David-yo4ps]

In the two Power 4 games so far this year (KSU & SMU), the BYU defense has allowed ZERO touchdowns. Pretty impressive especially since SMU put up 66 on TCU this past weekend.

[@RealBoredom]

as a byu fan i went to the game and lost my voice

[@Odawg021]

yeah i did and i had to teach at church today 💀

[@RealBoredom]

@@Odawg021 oof i got lucky and didn’t teach that day 😅

[@davidfrey5654]

(BYU alumni) The truth is that if you look at the game stats, Kstate leads in almost all the offensive stats. But Kstate just made many errors and BYU took advantage of it. But BYU's defense came to play. They are the stars in this game. If you're gonna come to BYU for a night game, you better bring your A++ game cause for some reason, BYU plays extremely well, at night, in Provo.

[@scotthickam904]

That would be awesome

[@Shorts-McMuffin.]

Don’t get to high on this game! We got very lucky. Our offense still needs some improvement.

[@michaeltaylors2456]

Not luck, this group just have what it takes to makes plays. This trend will continue. Enjoy the ride

[@twotwentyswift]

Winning by 29 points is luck? 😂 The defense is elite and the offense is average.

[@Telfair316]

@@twotwentyswift Credit to BYU, their fans, and a well played game, but I don't think an "elite" defense gives up 160 yards in two possessions. Penalties in the redzone took points off the board for the Cats (2 touchdowns, and maybe a third), otherwise this is a different ball game.

[@twotwentyswift]

@@Telfair316 Elite defenses limit conference favorites to 9 points.

[@schristiansen3151]

@@Telfair316 BYU held Kansas State to 9 points, and SMU to 15 points in their own stadium.. That same SMU team a week later scored 66 points against TCU. But you say they're not elite. 😂 Whatever you say. 😆

[@jimoden7774]

Hilarious all the agonizing over Avery Johnson after last night, similar to the hand-wringing at BYU 2 weeks ago with Jake Retzlaff, who at least in this game appeared the journeyman QB doing just enough with 149 yards passing, 2 TD’s and no turnovers to take BYU to victory…welcome to the Big 12!

[@colinmcmullin1154]

First quarter the broadcast crew was gushing about Avery Johnson. He is talented no doubt but cannot throw the ball. I am scratching my head about why someone would think he is the next big thing.

[@delerioustyme]

BYU’s longest drive that ended in a TD was 39 yards. Other two were 27 and 29. Then a defensive TD, and Punt return TD.

[@Hawkeye242]

lol, we’re 4 games in and talking like Kansas State was a national champion. As a BYU fan, the Big 12 hasn’t yet seen what they can do, this is not surprising. BYU could easily lose a few games, but occasionally being explosive has been in their DNA for a long time. Great win, but I think we focus way too much on preseason rankings, and a few games in, we still don’t know which teams are any good yet.

[@garrettjohnson1387]

They weren’t beaten this bad since 2020 Kansas never had single digits 2020

[@stinger0772]

K-State can comeback. They were down 10 at halftime at Tulane and won. AJ is a good passer he just let the moment get to him last night and receivers dropped balls that made his stats worse. Three penalties negated three TDs including two AJ touchdowns. The only thing that needs reevaluating is the offense to get more aggressive with AJ's running game. The five minute stretch that sent the score from 6-3 to 6-31 was fluky. K-State and AJ will bounce back.

[@delerioustyme]

Up until the fumble return for a TD, KState was man handling BYU and had drives stall in the 10 and settled for FG’s. Once DJ, who had only fumbled once in 3 years, fumbled it, the wheels just fell off. The play calling for KState was horrible. They still out gained BYU by over 100 yards.

[@scottcarter1076]

Where are you guys broadcasting from ?

[@PFFCFB]

@@scottcarter1076 PFF studios in Cincinnati!

[@simon2077]

Avery Johnson is 19 years old. It's only his first loss. Trust me Howard had his turnovers too in his first year he was very bad.

[@Blueskies-c7u]

Rise and shout, the cougars are out! And rolling!!!!

[@EverybodyLovesJorrye]

Bruh….this was the most shocking loss KState has had in years. Huge credit to BYU their defense and that environment, they forced us into so many mistakes at horrible times. KState has to work on their passing game, we’re way too easy to defend rn

[@cameronhimes3558]

BYU is def a team and program built for big 12 they can beat any team even if Oklahama and Texas were still in it (they have beat and torched the later in the past).

[@delerioustyme]

How did BYU stop the run when they ran for over 200 yards?

[@wesray603]

I hope the K state for sure, reevaluates its playcalling!

[@Hh-lf6yl]

It doesnt help if all the Wrs drop the ball when its in there hands!! Avery Johnson is good, the Wrs are azzz

[@Jonas-22]

They only dropped a few that I remember, I thought they were catching everything early. Avery has a lot of bad throws imo

[@aljole683]

I’m a BYU alum…take out that 7 minutes and the turnovers, and the game becomes one in which BYU is trying to figure out what they need to do to win, rather than K-State being in shock. BYU’s D should be looking at the downs they lost, rather than the ones they won, because they can’t get away with that on a team that doesn’t turn it over. That said…BYU will do that. And K State will clean it up and be solid, they’re a class program.

[@brailsmt]

@@aljole683 This is a ridiculous take. You can't take out those plays, they happened. They are part of the game. It's absolutely ridiculous to remove all the positives and then say "well, without the good plays, we might suck". No shit, Sherlock.

[@royalblueblood]

😂

[@bry0ung]

I agree. I keep saying that this team could finish 6-7. Lifelong BYU fans are holding their breath.

[@royalblueblood]

@@bry0ung Holding their breath for what? This is Football nothing is written in stone except one. What happened on the field HAPPENED. Past tense meaning it’s done. There are NO hypotheticals, you can’t go take this or that back. Everything in the game triggers the game to go the way it does you can’t say “well if that didn’t happen…” What? You know for a FACT what would happen after that? You don’t. 🤷‍♂️How bout you hold that food for thought 🤙

[@Jonas-22]

@@bry0ung Even ESPN thinks we should win 8. 6-7 is wild, BYU gets Arizona, Kansas and Hoston at home, who aren't great right now (all lost this their last game). Then Baylor and ASU on the road who were just exposed. That's 9. Then OkSt at home in a Friday night atmosphere that will be elite, and OkSt is struggling. UCF should be a loss. I'm not saying BYU will win every game they should, we don't do that, but we could will 10 rather reasonably. The schedule really favors us. Plus, Utah is a guaranteed W

[@brandonl2555]

They didn’t really stop the run game though. Johnson, giddens, and Edward’s were each average 8-11 yards per carry about 1/2 way through the 3rd.

[@gnielsen07]

They stopped them in the run game when they had to. Didn’t they stop Kansas state on multiple 4th downs?

[@russelldesertvikinganderso3386]

Irrelevant ✅️ KSU can NOT come back from behind with a poor passing game.

[@brailsmt]

This is somewhat misleading. They couldn't do shit in the red zone. I don't really care what a team does before the red zone, if you stop them cold in the red zone, that is a very good and effective defense. I wish we'd be more lights out and force more 3 and outs, but I'll take this defense as it is. Hill is amazing.

[@JT-ly1gp]

One thing is clear, BYU's defense is pretty damn good, they've held four teams without a touchdown now who have had good offenses.... most particularly SMU and they beat SMU in Dallas.

[@brandonl2555]

@@gnielsen07 that’s not what they were talking about, they were claiming their prediction “for BYU to win they had to stop the run game” was correct. KSU ran for over 240 some odd yards. That’s not stopping the run game. They forced turnovers and stopped them in the red zone, that was how BYU won.

[@kennethshaw626]

I am a BYU fan, but I still think Kansas State is the better team. Really good take. If this game was in Kansas, they may have won. Kansas was controlling the line of scrimmage in the first 2 drives. Then the crowd took over. How many false starts? At least 6. Kansas running back fumbles, and the rout was on. Dumb interception, in your territory. Then, instead of Kingston getting caught on his own 2 yard line he breaks the tackle and runs it for a touchdown. People underestimate the home field crowd. You give up a turnover in that atmosphere. you're in trouble.

[@cameronwhittle2233]

I agree with your overall point that the main reasons BYU got momentum aren’t sustainable reliable ways to win games. I think BYU is certainly a lot better this year than people thought but I don’t think they’ve necessarily proven with this win that they are elite yet

[@JT-ly1gp]

Que the BYU apologist.... never fails, you're like the Dudley Do-Right of college football😂

[@adams2]

What is this analysis? "If BYU didn't make amazing plays, they wouldn't have been amazing." The crowd helps, but you're completely discrediting the fact that BYU forced those turnovers, they didn't let KSU in the end zone, they played a clean game with turnovers and penalties. That's how they won.

[@cameronwhittle2233]

@@adams2 bro a crazy punt return and a super convenient fumble and 2 BADLY thrown INTs are not going to happen every game. Johnson threw it right to the defense

[@inoketaufalele562]

Can’t live in what if’s in sports just to put over this team over the other. Fact of the matter is regardless of who’s better, last night BYU was the better team in all 3 phases of the game. Who says that they can’t get even better now that the offense is starting to look more balanced and when LJ and Ropati come back they’ll have a nice stable of RB’s with Moa emerging as a guy. BYU is going to have a 3 game stretch coming up in Oct where they play AZ, OKST, and Utah! They have plenty of time to get better before then, watch the cougs might run the table if they can stay healthy

[@gagebentley7356]

Is this another national championship team?

[@MarkRoss-q1m]

Haha..pump the brakes there buddy

[@russelldesertvikinganderso3386]

With some help & bounces our way yes.

[@typeofguyto]

Not at all bruh

[@brailsmt]

I'll paraphrase LaVell Edwards, we can only play the teams on our schedule. If we do that, and win them all, then CFP will happen. It's beyond premature to start saying BYU could be CFP bound. We have to just win each week, one week/game at a time. None of this press clippings bullshit.

[@Jonas-22]

Let's play statement 5 first

[@beaker8111]

There were tons of people who thought BYU was that good. They are all delusional, too. Look, BYU's offense stunk in that game. They had less than 250 total yards! The defense was really good, but if you are trying to sell me on the game plan of getting 2 short field TDs and a special teams TD ...... you're crazy. Utah is going to destroy us if we don't get the offense sorted out. Aaron's offense is STILL bad (I can't believe he wasn't fired) and Retzlaff is one good defense away from throwing three picks and losing us a huge game. I feel like BYU used up an entire season's worth of luck in 6 minutes of this game.

[@_ice_berg]

Not a fair take. You can only play with what you’re given. The defense put them in short field positions and they got it done. It’s not the offense’s fault they had short fields meaning small yardage. It’s a team game, defense is part of that.

[@stinger0772]

This is the intelligent take

[@DIYAroundTheHome]

BYU achieved 48% of the yards available. KSU got 41%. BYU had short fields... impossible to go on long drives when you start on your opponents 40. The 250 yard = BYU offense sucks is an unintelligent take

[@mjohnson6703]

7 points were gifted to Kansas by the refs

[@nickmorton7157]

I totally agree. The ball was a foot out of the end zone when he stepped out on that 4th down

[@twotwentyswift]

Yep, BYU only won because of the refs. 😂🤣😅

[@alexlarsen2464]

I've been telling yall about BYU this whole time. Byu will easily win the big12 and be invited to the big10 where we belong. They should boot the classless losers Utah back to pac12 with the mountain west teams where they belong. The big 12 is a joke. The big12 is scrubs. Houston and Cincinnati? Lmao. The best teams in big13 are ksu and osu? Gimme a break. Go cougs!

[@ethanjohnson-ue5tz]

Thats the worst take Ive ever seen

[@Odawg021]

you don’t realize the fact that byu is at least imo a basketball school and the big 12 is THE BASKETBALL CONFERENCE

[@jacobcorbridge4906]

Dude is clearly a Ute troll

[@notsure7899]

This reeks of Ute