Kate and Anthony’s Library Scene: Why Bridgerton Fans Are Still Upset

[@LadyJenevia]

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[@Zazu1917]

Kate deserved so much more on the show! Simone talked about how when she was first cast, there were some discussions about having Kate flashbacks! The rage I feel for how little they focused on the Sharma family dynamic. They have such an interesting dynamic that was left barely touched. They could've expanded on a little but in S3, but they gave them such little screen time, that I was actually left scratching my head.

[@nahomidiaz]

The narration of Kate’s “episodes” + her finding out why she was afraid, had me crying big fat tears, i’m watching on my tv and i had to use my phone to comment this because that narration was stellar

[@amysrandomrants]

I totally agree. The missing library panic attack was the difference between the book and the show that bothered me the most. The thing I like most about the books is that each lead has an internal conflict to work through over the course of the story. S1 is the only season that has shown both leads in enough detail to get that across (despite its other issues) and it's only gotten worse. Kate got some development but not enough, and Colin got the tiniest bit. They basically cut his entire character arc from the book!

[@wonder-wall1914]

We need a kanthony spinoff i fear. And i can thank Simone Ashley for making this suggestion!

[@birdiewolf3497]

Idk if I need a full spinoff or if we could just double the episode order of the actual show.

[@thulaganyo.modise]

@@birdiewolf3497 I will take a 2 hour special with the wedding and a bit of the honeymoon with Kate’s backstory

[@marissawilson4644]

Idea: what if we get a limited series showing them in India as Kate gets ready for birth

[@leandergloryheart7089]

​@@marissawilson4644 That's such a good idea, then they can I close flashbacks too!

[@gabrielleduplessis7388]

It sucks that they keep favoring side plots over the main storyline. What are the writers thinking sometimes? We wouldn’t be demanding more scenes for the couples if they added them the first time. It is frustrating.

[@thulaganyo.modise]

The treatment of Kathani Sharma by the show has been baffling and will forever leave me in confusion. Also thank you for speaking about the wedding (or lack thereof) because it does not make sense whatsoever.

[@LadyJenevia]

Do a flashback to the freaking wedding, we still want to see it! 🧐

[@danestarr8259]

They said kate betray her sister thats why she had no wedding

[@katrinarichards7891]

​@@LadyJeneviaYes a Spinoff Titled Kanthony Milestones Uninterrupted would be Justified Pleasingly Satisfying A Grand Exit if they want to end the actors actress involvement with the show instead of limited screentime how about limited series six episodes like Queen Charlotte?

[@thulaganyo.modise]

⁠@@danestarr8259The show runner said that they didn’t show Kate’s wedding because it wouldn’t compare to Edwina’s that was planned by the queen. They doubled down by saying that the queen was not going to plan another one so that’s why they chose not to show Kate’s.

[@TheRainToYourParade]

10’s across the board for this video. I loved every bit of it and I agree with everything. The Sharma family deserved more. Edwina and Mary were such great characters in the books and they could have done so much with that. We needed more backstory for Kathani. She deserved to be fully fleshed out.

[@victoriap4987]

Love the content of this video, but I just have to point out how you ATE UP the narration! It’s giving artist, it’s giving actor, it’s giving she understands how to express the emotions of the characters through subtle shifts in her tone. I’m obsessed

[@LadyJenevia]

I... have taken acting classes. 😂

[@zhonukreeke]

You reading that library scene made me tear up with how beautiful it is. ❤

[@LadyJenevia]

It's a great scene and they should've used more of that in Kanthony's season!

[@marabanara]

@@LadyJenevia and it helps you read so beautifully. I love your choices and you put just enough emphasis and character into it, but you don’t overdo it. The material could come across as almost camp or melodramatic but you made it sound quiet and deep.

[@roadrollerdio565]

Haven't completed the video yet but I just have to chime in: cutting Kate's backstory does such a disservice to not just Kate and Simone (which is already a crime when the Featheringtons have so much screentime) but also Mary Sheffield, who has the potential to be _so_ rich as a character, and Shelley Conn, who is a fantastic actress! Showing Kate's backstory would also explain so much more of her background and why she uses certain languages for certain words and engages in certain cultural practices (because it's a mishmash of Indian cultures) and without a backstory, it's noticeably confusing to viewers of Indian descent.

[@AMoniqueOcampo]

Interesting thing: I saw bees in my garden this morning and I was thinking about Kate and Anthony having some genuine bonding in the library, with the two of them opening up to each other about their phobias.

[@LauraSomeNumber]

I feels like bridgerton just refuse to do happy weddings. Simon and Daphne, Edwina and Anthony, Pen and Colin, even John and Francesca, none of them were entirely happy. The only one I can think of is Mr. Finch and Phillippa and that felt like it was just because the drama was in the dowery storyline.

[@witchygrrl]

OMG YAAASSSS MORE KANTHONY DISCUSSION??? And over an hour of it?? ::instant like:: So excited to watch!!

[@LadyJenevia]

I appreciate your enthusiasm SO MUCH! 🥹 And I always have things to say about Jonny and Simone's life-changing chemistry. 🤭

[@witchygrrl]

​@LadyJenevia I have to say I slightly regret watching this before my usual bedtime bc now my anger has been reignited at how Kate and the Sharmas were screwed over in S2. 😅 #justice4Sharmawomen

[@83fbc]

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[@estefaniatorres8822]

I literary scream: YESSS!!! from the top of my lungs when I saw the title of the video. As TVWLM book fan(dispite is few problematic scenes) I was so angry when I realise they complete ignore the fundamental moment in the book when you are convince this man and women deserve to be with eachother. I remenber that until that moment, the idea that Anthony deserve the affection and love of Kate didn't fully convince me , until this. Also, I wasn't until that moment when we finally see more of Kate dimensonality as a character in the book. The way that this moment portray and discuss that not because you are fierce it means that you don't have fears and phobias. As that is totally okay to be scare of thing that sound stupid to be afraid. Because as Anthony said: fears are not rational and totally okay. And lastly this scene put a full circle to this whole book idea that this two work because they are one in the same. So they understand, respect and love eachother deeply because of it. This is my personal why this book is my favorite in the saga. Because a portrays a love in as the understanding of someones feelings, fears, expectantions, insucurities and traumas to a deep level. And that dispite our maybe beucase of that you love them with all your body and soul. Also is one of the best scenes that Julia Quinn has wrote in the entire saga. PDT:Sorry if my grammar is bad English is not my natural language but I tried my best to each day be better learning this language fully. Saludos desde Puerto Rico🇵🇷.

[@heathercontois4501]

I think you did wonderfully.

[@earlonaweary9155]

I think you did a good job! Plus, I totally agree. In the show, there wasn't a lot of reason for me to believe they loved each other, only that they had a lot of chemistry and desire for one another. But what was the love based on? In the book, they had chemistry, they bickered, but it was only when Kate saw Anthony come to Penelope's rescue from Cressida and when he was gentle and empathetic with Kate in the library that she really started to see who he was as a person, and actually liked and respected him. THAT'S what made her fall in love with him. We didn't see nearly enough of that.

[@estefaniatorres8822]

Ohhh, she is going to talk about the other problems of the series of not adapting the best parts of the book. This is getting better. So I will say it know, JUSTICE FOR THE SHARMAS. Like they did Mary soooo dirty, wich is expecally impresive considering that it could not have been more a perfect casting for Mary that Shelley Conn. And Edwina, where the heck was the enfasis of she being a bookworm and one of the smartest people in a room. And yes, that is including Kate, this girl was most of the time smarter than her older sister. And as a older sister myself I can say confendently that in a lot instences when it comes to certain thing my little brother is smarter than me a lot of times. Also we need it more of Colin Bridgerton being the little menace that was Kate and Anthony macthmaker. Like men, Colin Bridgerton being done dirty, for real, because of Shondaland.

[@thulaganyo.modise]

The writers did the entire Sharma family so dirty. They ended up being tokens and it was disappointing because the production was proud to brag about the fact that they had South Asian women in the season but could not deliver when it came to telling this story.

[@earlonaweary9155]

For...REAL! It sucks how dirty they did Colin, but especially the Sharmas. I'm so disappointed with Edwina coming off as almost an airhead (she was so oblivious), and poor Mary being a negligent parent. Their close family dynamic from the book was sacrificed for drama's sake and stayed unstablished till the end of the show. How unsatisfying.

[@madelion24]

I really love how you give options on how a traumatic scene can be shot so that it doesn't harm a yound actor. I can see the scene in my head when you describe it & really wish the production would do better scene writing. Give us the flashbacks we deserve.

[@LadyJenevia]

There are sooooooooo many options for work-arounds so that you don't have to needlessly overwork and traumatise a child actor to film that death scene. Focus the shots mostly on the adults, utilise POV shots that don't even require the child actor, only show the child-actor emoting being shocked/surprised, film them from the back running up the mother (if you obscure their face, you don't have to over-direct them to be 'believable' in emoting the facial expressions of what's happening), film a profile shot of them hugging the mother, a close-up of their hands on the mother's back, film a shot of them having fallen asleep some time later, still clinging on to their mother. Minimally stressful options exist. Also, if you use slow motion, you don't need the run-time of the footage to be as long because you'll slow it down and stretch out the run time in post. There are a lot of questions worth asking about how much children should even be working on sets, given how many horror stories have come out (Alyson Stoner has a very insightful KZbin series explaining the problems in detail). Either way, if you have children on a set and the material is really intense, it is your responsibility to go above and beyond to look after them. There's a really good clip of James Wan working with child-actor Ty Simpkins so that he could be less scared of the intense horror of Insidious, here: x.com/horror4kids/status/1510249059843723266

[@Reverse_Cowgirl-cat]

The love between Kate and Mary makes me more teary-eyed than any of the other romantic love stories. I'm a sucker for anything related to found family. 🥺😭

[@LiliLedesma-rw2kg]

@@Reverse_Cowgirl-cat me too

[@AuntieM27]

Sorry!. I loved Mary in the book, but not so keen on her in the show. I think, as a loving mother she should have seen Kate's distress when Anthony proposed to Edwina. Then to banish Kate from the room after the wedding instead of listening to her side of the story was disgraceful. Kate ended up crying her eyes out in a cupboard/closet and my heart bled for her. Finally, when she said "I forgive you" I thought what for? For being a loving, caring sister to Edwina and for putting Mary and Edwina before herself? The show did Mary no favours.

[@jaedhalaptiste1924]

I fully agree with you. We needed more details in the series. I would also love to see Kate face when Anthony said he didn't want to love. Cause he said he would die the same age his father died

[@arianaarmenta1335]

Girl, your delivery has me sobbing, ugly crying 😭

[@intellectualhumour]

Thank you for uploading a long detailed video ❤🎉 that's a cute floral shirt. I love Kate and Anthony so much. I wanted more from the library scene it was meaningful and intimate. I'm glad we got more scenes of them in season 3.

[@mrskvall1]

There is so much of TVWLM that they left out for that bullish!t ruby mine plot. The showrunners will never see the pearly gates for Kate’s lack of backstory.

[@LadyJenevia]

Kanthony fans wanted to watch Kanthony, Polin fans wanted to watch Polin, fans of romantic stories (like myself) just wanted to watch some great romantic storytelling, NO ONE was counting down to Bridgerton to see Portia's mine subplot. 😂

[@plainpotatotay]

oh my god... the way you are such a great narrator and always give excellent commentary. i always have a blast watching your content. hearing your thoughts. i think one day like a week ago, i just ended up binging all your stuff. exciting stuff! :D

[@LadyJenevia]

Thank you so much! 🥹🥹🥹 Plenty more reviews and analyses coming up! (It’s THE CROW opening weekend so obviously I’ll have to talk about that next. 😎)

[@plainpotatotay]

@@LadyJenevia oh girl you already know imma be seated!! 😭

[@rellas8676]

I have literally had to go Kanthony cold turkey and then I see this video and it brings back all those butterflies all over again! How is that even possible? Now I need a rewatch

[@wonder-wall1914]

The first line, lowkey dissing season 3 gave me life. It was terrible especially after the high note season 2 left us on. Which isn't great because leaving us on a low note for 2 years is not ideal

[@moritzmartini4132]

Personally I´m not a Kanthony fan but I definitely think that the library scene should´ve been longer and more intimate. Like we as the viewers obviously know it bc of flashbacks and coonversations Anthony had with Violet, but he NEVER had a on screen conversation with KATE about his trauma and WHY he did the things he did. I also wish that the one scene with Kate, Penelope, Cressida and Anthony would´ve been included. Kate & Pen have a nice chat, Cressida comes over to bully Pen and Anthony then comes over to save Pen and offer her to sit next to him during dinner which was like a big deal. We NEEDED that scene. Bc 1. it established that Pen is friends with (or at least liked by) the WHOLE Bridgerton family. In season 3 they tried to touch on it by Anthony all of a sudden being extremely overprotective and Hyacinth being like "I always wanted you to be my sister". But 2. it also showed Kate that Anthony actually can be pretty kind and helpful

[@LaurindaBellinger]

oh yes, the library scene didn't feel right at all. I am not a book reader, but it was weird that he didn't ask about how her father died. That would have been a natural curiosity since she just asked about his father's death. I wish they gave more time to that scene - and less the the Featheringtons. I would have loved more about the Sharma family background in flashbacks instead of them talking about it in the show. Romance is not what I read, but these books sound very interesting.

[@Mrsamj1989]

In the show Anthony asked those questions from Edwina not Kate. In the show the time gaps between each scene is sometimes a few months. So he probably knew but Anthony or Violet don’t open about how Edmund died so I actually like the reveal at the library. As for the library scene in the book, that won’t do anything for the show because of all the events that happen before the show library scene. Kate was in a love triangle torn between Anthony and Edwina. Book Kate never had that problem. Also in the book Kate’s fear of storms just disappeared magically after one single conversation. So not including the library scene from the book is not an issue for me. My issue with the show was Edwina’s confusing character development and the sisters not having a good conversation without vilifying Kate.

[@soundmind174]

AO3 Recommendations: La Semi Dolce Vita by caciodepepe and Close Encounters of the Acutest Kind by caciodepepe are easily the best fanfics I think I’ve ever read. The author captures Kanthony in such an impeccable way (I think it’s better than TVWLM 😅) and her other works are just stunning. As always love your content and takes!

[@birdiewolf3497]

I’m obsessed with their current fic Attorney Client Privilege!! I love their work!!!

[@fromtheashess]

Caico is one of the best Kanthony authors. I’ve read all her prior fics multiple times.

[@Megan9689]

4:45 yes please for a video of the love that has you ensnared!

[@LiliLedesma-rw2kg]

You are almost always right on point with your takes. On this topic. I haven't read the books, but adding the book context made the story so much better. It makes it not just a crazed sexually charged initial connection but real personal contection. The show alluded to their trauma bonding, but like you said, they were lazy with it. They were like "shes an orphan thats all the matters to his plot. The show is meant to be about him. She's just the "diversity" girl boss he needs to aid his story." The book, however, seems to show that her story creates the feelings Anthony has for her ( which also seems slightly problematic if we are being honest but at least it is centered around more than just sex). To clarify there is nothing wrong with just sex but there is when the original story wasn't written to be reimagined that way on screen.

[@danestarr8259]

Simone Audition Piece is Kate's Backstory in India and idk why the hell they Didnt include it on the show.

[@ReeniEspino]

Where to find? Would love a link!

[@danicastrella8065]

its on simone's interview in newyork/la times wait i will send the link

[@mc-ge2bt]

As much as I agree that the show shortchanged Kate's storyline on the show, I am more along the lines that their version of adaptation usually leads the show writers taking away from the women in general. Penelope isn't the "loser" she is on the show, Franchesca isn't socially awkward, Eloise isn't afraid of men and Violet isn't a weeping widow. Aside from throwing the book in the trash, the most egregious rework on Kate's character is that they made her deceptive and a liar to her own sister. That was awful. So no, I no longer think any of the show seasons will be as good as the books. All that to say, I think the show writers read the books and decided they had a good foundation but ultimately do not like them. The show's rewrites are cartoonish.

[@penadelie]

I really enjoy you reading, you'll be amazing at audiobooks! Thank you for the video ❤

[@kathrynthorsen5289]

This (and much of S3) is exactly what makes me nervous about how they are going to handle future seasons…since you have read When He Was Wicked, characters from the whole series that I have been looking forward to are The (Stirling) Mothers (they are perfect in every way in the book) and I worry that they will go the way of Felicity or make them unnecessarily melodramatic when they should be celebrated for being exceptionally supportive and loving women (to each other, to their sons/nephews, and MIL MVP)…but they will probably get the Lady Mary treatment 😢

[@dhanyanair9050]

I always think it was representation done wrong, , the sharma sisters were more or less props for the male lead The extra Sheffield drama turned Anthony into a hero, extra wedding drama turned Edwina into a victim while doing nothing for Sharma's except add unresolved negativity. Meanwhile kate Bridgerton was not given the backstory, her mother's death trauma or fears, for Kate her insecurities were communicated towards the end when all harm was done Some show fans also refuse to acknowledge this mistreatment as apparently more than 1 POC was given lead spotlight even when their story was half baked

[@grodriguez7225]

Yay a vlog! Let’s bring on the water, maybe some wine, tissues, and the snacks! Wow aside from the romance, good mother and daughters dynamic!

[@LikeChattingWithAFriendReviews]

👏🏾👏🏾 I’d listen to her read a whole audiobook!

[@LadyJenevia]

You’re very kind. ☺️

[@imanuraisha]

Yes..very little short conversation. In the book..among little thing that i like the book more than the show is the comversation. It help the other characters understand each other n viewers too.😞😞😞😞

[@71lizgoeshardt]

My LORD the Elvis edit with Anthony and the bee.... I'm dead. It killed me.

[@LadyJenevia]

EVERYONE WATCH BAZ LUHRMANN'S "ELVIS" IT'S PURE CINEMA 😍🫶🏻

[@katherinealvarez9216]

What were Papa Sharma's and Kate's birth mother's name? What were their names? Who did Edwina marry!? #savemyladyjane

[@wonder-wall1914]

The fact that we don't even know Kate's birth parents name, but I need to know about Jack Featherington, is absolutely vile.

[@heathercontois4501]

I don't recall us getting their names in the book. Edwin marries her father's clerk, by eloping I believe, rather than the queen deciding she wants to set her up with her nephew from season 1.

[@burnt-croissants]

an hour long video from Lady J? I'm sat.

[@LadyJenevia]

The original plan was to publish this next weekend but I powered through things to finish it sooner; I want to start reading Benedict's book so I can officially meet Sophie. 😂

[@tasia9844]

Absolutely agree with all the Kanthony goodness!!! Now I need to do another season 2 rewatch and read the book. Also I absolutely loved your reading!

[@jillianmakes]

They could still do the nightmare scene in an upcoming season, but I fear that Jonathan Bailey has become too big of a star and that his screen time will get shorter and shorter as the seasons go on. So sad. I really felt let down with the lack of Kanthony in season 3.

[@earlonaweary9155]

I am constantly flumoxed and flabbergasted by the amount of good content the writers had at their disposal for Kate and Anthony's season that was just THROWN out of the window. At times in the show, it seems as if they don't know what to do in a scene, and I'm like "How about putting THIS from the book in there, or expounding on this certain theme that's already been mentioned, or add more dialog with Kate and Anthony," but no. They decided to waste time with frivolous conversations and more time with the Feathoringtons. *Heavy sigh* Good content is so hard to come by these days. Good writing and showrunners that actually care about the story, and therefore the characters, are also hard to come by. Rant over, for now.

[@SherieNunnally]

I loved everything you said, about Kate & Anthony!! So many missed opportunities. 🤔

[@whatreallymatters571]

I didn't even read the book and still felt that Kate didn't have a good back story and felt like a background character. There's a bone I have to pick with Shonda when it comes to a lot of her shows and that's that, it seems when the target audience is non white the POC characters are always so obviously an after thought, when she does center the main character around POCs she does it so well though that it's such a punch in the face when the target audience is white because you can see how the POC characters main or otherwise are treated. It does not only POCs a disservice but it does the white target audience a disservice as they aren't forced out of their comfort zone. I'd also love to hear your thoughts on people who loved the first season, (which I honestly hated) who seemed to hate on Kate, if you noticed. I'm not Indian but the clear differences in how Kate was treated by people who loved the first one while the white female lead in the first season was basically able to get away with r*pe was shocking.

[@gabrielleduplessis7388]

I did not like Kathany’s book, but only because Anthony was the worst, in my opinion. I did like Kate, but I kept feeling bad for her because he did not make her happy for over half of the book. Again, in my opinion. While I agreed with commenters on some things that should be added, I finally understood how they felt after season 3 shoved Polin to the side. The opinions Polin fans had were the same ones that Kathany had. But I always agreed with commenters that we needed Kate’s backstory and some of the emotionally intimate scenes like the one in the library. It adds depth and romance to their relationship. I also agree that the relationship shouldn’t have been dragged out. I would have that scene in the woods be Kate finally saying yes to marriage and the rest of the show would be figuring things out and having happy moments. While I love Edwina, it would be nice to see her be happy for them instead of creating this live triangle.

[@gabrielleduplessis7388]

Have you considered doing audiobooks? You would be great at it.

[@kellylee2559]

Yaaaaas! Exactly! 👏👏👏

[@lauramathews3151]

Ass numbingly dull clip of Colin Firth was savage milady😂😂😂

[@Ellington3]

Season 3 was not good. Season 2 was paramount but Kathani and the Sharmas got ripped off story wise! And because of that I will not re watch season 3 again. It was annoying that the two white leads got a world press tour and too much Featherington family interactions. Also I just could not stand that Colin had his mouth open too much! Great reading Lady Jenivia!

[@roadrollerdio565]

Please make a video about your old ship which has you on ao3 again of late!! I can relate to that sentiment so much as a Cowboy Bebop Spike/Faye shipper who falls back into it once a year at this point 😅

[@LadyJenevia]

I definitely have things to say but it’s a couple from a show which means it’ll take longer to make than if they were only in a 2-hour film. Definitely want to get around to it at some point in the next few months. 🤭

[@heathercontois4501]

I am still sore about them underutilizing Newton fkor the little ball of an antagonist that he is, but Kathani getting injured horseback riding during a storm was both mote dramatic than a broken leg and contradictory to her book characters fear of storms.

[@LadyJenevia]

I’m fine with them using him less because I don’t want to watch an overworked animal on camera. I like seeing him just lounge and sit on pillows and people’s laps. 🐶

[@heathercontois4501]

@@LadyJenevia That is a very good point. I agree, over worked animal "actors" are bad. I just would have rather they wrote him out all together, or maybe got 3 or 4 to play Newton so they could keep his parts in.

[@kathrynthorsen5289]

@@LadyJeneviaor third wheeling it by staring at mom and dad in bed😂🐶

[@naticantet]

No spoilers here, I promise! But I feel like the showrunners NEEED to show us Sophie’s backstory. It is so so so important for her character. Otherwise, season 4 will not make sense!!!

[@LadyJenevia]

I will share my thoughts after I’ve read the book! ☺️🍿📚

[@naticantet]

Im looking forward to that video ❤❤❤

[@LadyJenevia]

@@naticantet I’ve started reading Benedict’s book but haven’t finished yet! (I had to finish one last video about season 3 because the idea popped into my head and it was a good way to give it closure so I can fully dive deep into season 4 ongoings!)

[@naticantet]

@@LadyJenevia saw that (fun) video! And noooo pressure at all! I appreciate all your attention to detail in your work 😉. I will be here for when you get to it ❤️

[@clawr89]

Everything you said in this video, I agree 💯💯💯💯💯

[@Lime1958]

Girl I say this with love.DONT READ THE BOOK. JUST DONT. the BenBook should never exist in the bridgerton series. Let luke T, Jess, CVD and Shonda create their own version of Benedict. You honestly do not want to read that book. Every feminist cell in your body would reject that character

[@LadyJenevia]

HAHAHA, I’m only going to read it for video-creating purposes and to meet Sophie. I’ve been repeatedly told he’s bad in the book so I’ll be going into it with that expectation. 😂 You also underestimate how bad some of the things I’ve watched this year are. I just reviewed a film on Patreon that had steam shooting out of my ears and all of the Letterboxd reviews I saw were nothing but glowing praise. 🫣

[@lauramathews3151]

If Jonathan Bailey can be this convincing with Simone Ashley as an actor idk if I can handle a gay story, I might just spontaneously combust if his passionate potential is fully unleashed upon an audience. Like searing, stick a fork in me I'm burnt.

[@ReeniEspino]

Check out Fellow Travellers then. Worth it.

[@tommycerda1689]

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[@yellowbag14]

May I say that you would make an amazing audio book performer? I was listening to this video on my drive home from work and the parts you read from the book genuinely sounded like an audiobook. You have a gift! Also, I am one of the ones who hasn't read any of the books and honestly I don't really plan to because I loved S2 so much. But I had no idea just how much was taken away from Kate's story! I have heard others talk about it, but it wasn't until this video that I truly comprehended the disparity. I mean, of course I noticed that Anthony's backstory was way more fleshed out while Kate's was just exposition really. But actually hearing the source material and all that was left out. Wow... Justice for Kathani!

[@Heothbremel]

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[@OryxArya]

I like the Featheringtons, Portia kept the show grounded in the time period and I liked the romance between Portia and Jack in season 2. Portia is a lesson in the vulnerability that women face in the Ton, she constantly reminds us of the dangers of conforming to societies expectations, whether by choice or not. It’s why I think the Mondrich storyline has been so disappointing they had the ability to show the opposite perspective (the dangers of not conforming to societies expectations) and would have set up the stakes for Benophie so much better. In saying that I wanted so much more from Kate’s story, Simone was amazing in the role and after watching what they did with the season 3 Whistledown hunt, Eloise and the Queen’s storyline should have been a lot shorter to make room for the Sharmas (even though I enjoy Eloise whenever she’s on screen)

[@giuliapezzoni6317]

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[@alya2108]

For Kate, Edwina, and Mary, I think that they didn’t need flashbacks. It’s one of those circumstances in a show where dialogue and showing their present situation (and enough of it) does most of the work and it *works.* I knew more about Mary because of the dinner scene where her grandparents showed up. I had an idea of the trio’s relationship because they had enough scenes together that show their dynamic during the time that they’re in London. Kate and Mary had an important conversation on how Mary was absent because of grief and Kate had to take over. Mary had no idea about the will - she wasn’t even the one bargaining to her own parents for Edwina’s future but Kate did. We see this happen throughout the show. Kate was running it all and only Lady Danbury herself caught her later on. It all works - at least for me! However, characters like Simon and Anthony (also Sophie) are the ones that preferably need flashbacks and exposition dialogue in good balance. Their situations are a little more complex that showing AND telling makes it more effective and felt instead of told through dialogue alone. Telling is an okay choice most of the time but if it’s not executed well, it’s going to be a weak build up and an unearned payoff. I think for Kate, they executed it well enough. Kate’s character feels fleshed out for me. They have given her situations and obstacles for us to get to know her more. As for Colin, he needed flashbacks, at least a scene during his travels where he felt very lonely and hasn’t received letters from Penelope anymore vs. Him just telling Penelope that he missed her and she stopped writing to him. If they don’t want him to have flashbacks about his travels nor about a young Colin and Penelope meet-cute, they need to make up for it by giving the two more situations in the present where they have to talk / take action. This is also why they should have *prolonged* Colin’s charm lessons in S3. Not only it will show more of how Colin and Pen’s friendship works, but it could be an opportunity where Colin opens up to Pen and confide in each other. Someone also said here that Colin and Anthony should also have that discussion again about marriage and Colin’s maturity back in S1 if they want a dialogue-heavy exposition. Which works too imho. Neither of these happened and that’s why people think that it’s all rushed. For Kate, the “telling” part is executed better than S3 ever will. S2 doesn’t feel like lazy writing. I would say Benedict doesn’t need any flashbacks too. He just needs, again, present obstacles so his character gets fleshed out. This is the same with Daphne, the first to be introduced in the family and the way she was fleshed out and known better is through immense dialogue between her mother, Anthony, Eloise, and Simon. She has 0 flashbacks and no one seems to have a problem with it. Again, because dialogue. Dialogue in of it self, is also action. There are many ways to get to know a character’s backstory besides flashback expositions. For that, I agree that the library scene should have been a bit longer for Kate to talk more about her fears. But that’s about it. Everything is fairly good. Not great but narratively better than S3. The Portia mine’s subplot is needed because Colin is also a part of it. Colin is a Bridgerton and he needs a development too. It all lead up to him and Penelope talking during the cancelled wedding about “purpose” and the “the people you care about”. It’s a build-up for the next season. It’s not a useless subplot when it caters to another Bridgerton member and their love interest, especially that we all knew they are next. The Mondriches in S3 though, I’d call a useless subplot except when they had their scenes with Benedict. Their other scenes should be in S4, if they will use them to be Sophie’s sanctuary besides My Cottage. Penelope and Colin had a terrible run in S3. Penelope has more screen time than Colin but she’s still mediocrely written. They thought S1-2 of their development is enough when it’s really not. The two couples have it so bad in their season and they’re both white. So whatever people thought was “missing” in other seasons is not an attack or some form of prejudice against POC. The writers are just bad, not racist.

[@brynbailey7132]

My thought of them not fleshing out the Sharma family is not a racial reason, but that they simply would not be returning to the series and therefore would not be a priority to continue. The families that get more screen time are the Bridgertons (ie the show is called Bridgerton) and the Featheringtons, as main character Penelope is one, and now Colin will run. So they happen to be white, but that's not the reason. We also have featured characters such as Lady Danbury, Simon (if we still had Rege he'd be in), Genevieve, Queen Charlotte, and the Bridgerton in-laws who are ever growing. I do agree the library scene should have been more, and Kate's backstory could have been expanded upon. But Edmund took priority because his death directly affects 9 people on the show, and therefore is important to explore. With 8 episodes, we aren't going to get everything, and I'm trying to come to terms with that lol, but even though the show may be misguided at times, I would not consider that any of the showrunners, esp Shonda, would purposefully sideline characters merely due to race. That's just my humble dumb opinion 😊 I love these videos where you read excerpts and explain show vs book!!! I will watch as many as you choose to make!!! ❤❤❤

[@danicastrella8065]

yes the sharmas will not comeback but kate is and s2 is her season her bs were needed like simon did in s1.

[@stillhere95]

Unpopular opinion: Kate's book scenes are weak because of the sub-par writing, the concept of it only works because we don't explore Anthony's trauma in the book. The show already has a trauma through line for Anthony, shoving in Kate's would be a pile-on. But I absolutely do agree that the library should have been longer, maybe a brief discussion about her father, a forlorn look hinting from her at her own sadness. (all that under the table juvenile crap was so poorly written I am glad it got cut). The length of that scene actually seems abruptly short, frustrates me everytime. Also, Simone, although had great chemistry with Bailey, was a first time lead, and it really kinda shows in some scenes, her delivery takes me out. Understandable, she's new and all, but this might be a factor to her not getting full material? Same opinion for Luke Newton, not the strongest cast member. I hope the new one is a good actor above everything else, (Luke T is already a good one) and Bridgerton doesn't make it a habit of treating one half of the new lead as a supporting role.

[@thulaganyo.modise]

I do agree with your point about Kate’s material in the book being slightly weak but this is something that can be easily tweaked to fit the character in the show and the way it gets told in its respective season. Also I don’t think that an actor’s ability should affect the material they get. If production feels like they are weaker in certain areas you can write these scenes in a way that plays to their strengths so it doesn’t come off as clunky. These problem areas can be worked around with good directing and editing. IMO they just didn’t want to include these scene for the character and that’s a shame.

[@crystalwilliams4456]

More Benophie, please. Kanthony has been over for 3 years now, let's move on. It is what it is and it's not going to change. I want discourse on if Sophie will have an asian name or will they keep it the same? Will she be a governess to Hyacinth or a lady's maid to Violet? Will Sophie be the inspiration for Benedict to get back into art? I'm so excited for the future.

[@jaimieg6310]

The point of revisiting Kanthony is with the hope the same mistakes aren’t repeated with Benophie…these discussions should happen and I’m glad Lady J is having them.

[@Emanuela1003]

I’m slowly catching up, I promise! 😊🫶🏻 I was very excited to watch another Kanthony video and it did not disappoint (as usual)! 😍😍🤩🤩 The Viscount Who Loved Me isn’t my favourite book of the Bridgerton series, but I still think it features some iconic scenes such as the library scene. And yet again, I was PISSED when I saw the show version of that moment. What a blatant waste of screen time! Why do they keep doing it to us, book fans? 😂😅 And even the people who didn’t read the books might sense that some things are off. For example, my mum never read any of the books, yet she felt like the storytelling in Season 3 was blatantly lacking. She said that at times (Cressida’s scenes!) it felt like it had no relevant plot points. Of course, I told her the whole story of Romancing Mr Bridgerton and she concluded that they should have kept the novel’s original structure of the romance. Sorry for the lengthy Season 3 digression! When Season 2 was released, my mum and I had a similar conversation (I updated her on the book) and she was disappointed when I illustrated the difference between the book library scene and the show library scene. Even though she hadn’t read the books, in both cases she agreed that those seemed like good ideas to adapt from the page to the screen. As you pointed out, another huge disappointment was the characterisation of Mary, which was almost non-existent in the show! It’s incredible (in the worst way possible) how blatant the sidelining of Kate’s family was. And in true Sex and The City style, “I can’t help but wonder”… Why is it that only the Asian family (the family of the main romantic lead of the season!) does not get a proper backstory? You were right, without an explanation one is forced to think about the worst possible reasons why. 😢 How disappointing. I hope I wasn’t too off-topic with my usual complaints about Season 3 (I seem to find a way to shove them into almost any comment, I’m sorry😅), but this time they felt more appropriate because I paired them with other complaints I had about Season 2 instead! 😂😅 Lots of love from Rome🫶🏻💕