Jonathan Frakes on his Star Trek family, Next Gen struggles, Directing, and Fan Con secrets

[@KateeSackhoffOfficial]

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[@deadmeat8754]

Katee, love the show! This one was especially great...had me laughing throughout...😄

[@RangerOneGaming]

What do you hear Starbuck ?

[@briancohen-doherty4392]

You're fantastic Katee 🎉

[@NigelSmith72]

If @KateeSackhoffOfficial is really a fan of “See You Next Tuesday”, she needs to spend more time watching Australian comedies :) Like “Deadloch” (on Prime) perhaps… some of the funniest related jokes ever on the small screen :)

[@klaxoncow]

That poor American woman. She's trying so hard. Also, I feel you do the Aussies a disservice. They own the C word. It's, like, their copyright. It's - quite genuinely - used as a term of endearment in Oz. I'm not shitting you there. It really is how good mates greet one another down under. Like, we Brits do use that word. But we do still have a sense of reservation about it. It is more powerful than the F word, and so you only deploy it when it's truly merited. Even if we address a good friend with that word, they have done something - pranked you or mocked you or stood you up or something - to warrant its use. But the Aussies just give no shits. Everyone's happily a "see you next Tuesday" in all directions down under. (By the way, I'm only not deploying the C and F words here, because KZbin's AI can read. I know it doesn't mind "shit" so much. Well, American company - the AI is programmed with American linguistic sensibilities. But at least Google's AI is a bit smarter than most automated moderators. It doesn't suffer from the so-called "Scunthorpe problem". Yes, there's a town in England called "Scunthorpe" and the good people of this town keep getting blocked and censored online, for mentioning where they live. If you look closely at the town's name, then you'll spot the reason why.)

[@jphanks]

Frakes is pure class. I wrote him a fan letter in '89 and he wrote me back by hand! Crocheted his baby a blanket in 93 and he said he was gonna paint the nursery that color 😂

[@thequestion5935]

That is awesome

[@LaraA55]

He sure is humble

[@peterpidrak9501]

I will never forget going to a Star Trek convention back in the 90s and he made fun of me because I had borrowed a captains uniform from my friend. But I asked him if the wargames between him and Picard had not been broke up in that episode, who would’ve won any just said Ryker would’ve kicked his ass. He’s a great guy and has been involved as a producer and in the background of several great TV shows.

[@Scientist_Salarian]

That’s beyond cool!

[@TheSentry603]

This channel is the sanctuary for Sci-Fi nerds of all genres and universes! Thank you for creating a space for every Sci-Fi nerd to feel welcome! Wishing you the all the best

[@KateeSackhoffOfficial]

❤❤❤ Yay 🎉 Sci fi nerd sanctuary is a great testimonial

[@LaraA55]

Absolutely agree 🤗

[@perttiroska9970]

"NEEEEEEEERDS!" -Homer Simpson

[@DarthTorrmGaming]

Put this woman in Star Trek already Frakes!!!!❤

[@One.Zero.One101]

Yeah Star Trek loaned Ensign Ro to Galactica, I think Galactica should loan Starbuck to Star Trek. This is the way.

[@CircumlunarFeasibility]

star trek is dead, woke destroyed it.

[@craigd10]

​@@CircumlunarFeasibility Star Trek has been "woke" since it's first episode debuted nearly 60 years ago. Progressive thinking has always been it's whole point. If you don't like that aspect of it, that's fine. But then you're no Trekkie.

[@COMPNOR]

@@craigd10there's a difference between progressive and woke.

[@craigd10]

@@COMPNOR I'm aware, but there's no difference between the two terms as far as the people who have come to misuse the colligiusm woke from its original meaning and associated it with liberalism. Hence why I used the word in quotes. I'm merely meeting the intended recipient where they are.

[@mdsf01]

He is such a wonderful person. I had the honor of being his security at the Montreal ComicCon last year. During a lull in the autograph signing I had a great conversation with him telling me about some of the amazing interactions he had with the fans. I confessed that I was experiencing a state of euphoria, energized by the positive energy coming from him which spilled over to his fans the entire weekend. I then offered him a Kit Kat chocolate bar I had saved in case we needed a quick sugar rush. I loved the way he just said "Yes!" unwrapped the chocolate gave me a piece, gave a piece to his assistant and the three of us just enjoyed a quiet moment eating chocolate. At the end of the day we took some photos, and he gave me a signed photo (Riker form Lower Decks) which I framed and have in my office. :) The whole experience still gives me a rush. Truly a heart-warming, class act.

[@joeslater2390]

Never trust anyone who doesn't say "YES!" if offered a kit kat, but someone who shares said kit kat!!!!!! Thank-you for protecting that man❤

[@mdsf01]

@@joeslater2390 I even introduced myself as "the guy who will take a bullet for you" Some of the guests laugh some don't; he did :)

[@joeslater2390]

@@mdsf01 oh we are so friends now (i apologize if you had other plans)

[@type2rider225]

​@@mdsf01 Niiice! Using Ving Rhames line from "Dave"!!

[@mdsf01]

@@type2rider225 Actually it reminded me more of Futurama, in the episode Where No Fan Has Gone Before where Jonathan says "Yes! Front row." in the head museum. 😆

[@anonymousposter3570]

Shatner is 93 and still going, like hes in his 60s. He was in his late 50s in the 80s doing TJ Hooker. Dude never stops. I was hired for personal protection for the actors and was assigned to Frakes for a day at a Con in Chicago. He was a great guy, good to the fans.

[@tjmcguire9417]

Anyone smart enough to know this needs to watch "Better Late Than Never:". Fascinating. Find it. Winkler, Bradsawe, Foreman, Shatner.... and the tag along.... 8-) Go look.

[@seanohalloran384]

Finally the Battlestar Galactica, Star Trek, Star Wars crossover we all wanted💯

[@templarw20]

This is the way. So say we all.

[@jasonross8434]

@@templarw20 you left out 'Way to go Kid! (don't get cocky)' ;-)

[@UncleSpellbinder]

A Frakes/Sackhoff collaboration? YES, PLEASE!

[@jedsithor]

It should be a crime to be as good at telling stories as Frakes is. The man is an icon.

[@joeeyaura]

he has the voice for it too

[@HieronymousMook]

"I'd been doing bad television since..." So funny. This was just such a nice conversation.

[@davedujour1]

I love that Johathan is still so involved in the Star Trek franchise. He is a wonderful human that really groks Star Trek at its core. And he seems to want the best for Trek to continue.

[@USCRalph]

TNG was my first WGA sale (first season) and before my episode shot, I was offered a tour of set. I went and Jonathan was one of the actors I met and he was wonderfully welcoming. He took time out to personally show me the Engineering set and talk to me. I was just starting out. And he was encouraging. What’s nice man!

[@straywolf77]

Jonathan is, in my opinion, the torch bearer of Roddenberry. He KNOWS Star Trek. Great interview. Thanks Katee!

[@monkeyzorr3090]

You're clueless then. Star Trek after 2005 has been garbage that is antithetical to Roddenberry's intention of a secular, utopian adventure series that puts science at the forefront with great writing. None of that is present right now, except on _The Orville_

[@johnclare77]

Katee, you're killing it. You and Frakes are a joy to watch. Thank you for all that you've done and continue to do.

[@kell475]

Dragon Con yall need to SHOWER 🤣🤣🤣Frakes is rightly calling yall out and I'm dead 🤣 Love you DC 😘

[@astridsactionrc545]

Every convention! Sci-if, anime, comic books, furry, etc…

[@Jaemez]

Commenting because I want this show to blow up the internet with it's fracking brilliance and we all need to do our part. Enjoyed all the interviews but this one with Frakes is fantastic.

[@KateeSackhoffOfficial]

I love this!! Thank you

[@Ghostrider91199]

Could not have asked for a better duo in an interview. Frakes is the GOAT, and Katee is an icon, one of my favorite interviews ever

[@jhcali71]

Mr. Frakes is spot on. As a TOS fan, in ‘87 STNG was not a fan favorite…nothing on the actors, but the writing wasn’t consistently good until season 3 on. As a BG78 fan, I loved the different take on the IP. You and your fellow cast members hit it out of the park! Thanks for this episode!

[@Ted2of25]

Frakes is always so nice and humble. ♥️♥️♥️

[@davidrubinstein9722]

I so loved watching the both of you. This is the kind of fan experience that I’ve been interested in. Not paying a bunch of money to get a 15 second face to face hello at a convention, but the fantasy of being able to go to a leisurely lunch or dinner and just sit and talk and get to know the person that has brought me so much enjoyment and enrichment in my life and then find out how wonderful they are and how much in common I might have with them. Thank you so much for this. Seeing you two chat brings me all kinds of feels, reminding me of the scant few months I get to spend each year with my very best family of friends.

[@KateeSackhoffOfficial]

What a wonderful endorsement ❤ Thanks for watching.

[@chopstx4u207]

This conversation is SoOo good. Love both of you. Beyond Sci-Fi legends and amazing actors.

[@kodymadis2111]

Well said !!! :)

[@BlahVideosBlahBlah]

Today was the day I found out Katee has a podcast. The first one I watched also happens to feature Frakes being himself. This is a good, good day. Thanks, Katee! ❤

[@1ordof1o1]

lol same

[@hettbeans]

Funny that this was recorded right after STLV. My best bud and I went for our very first time and got a great photo with Frakes in the vendors hall. We also got to stand around and chat with JG Hertzler and Robert O'Reilly for like 30 minutes while nobody was at their table. Same with Mary McDonnell who had been invited by Creation as one of their couple of non-Trek guests. All three of them had really personal, heartfelt conversations with us about topics ranging from politics to where we'd lived. The highlights of the con easily. Love Frakes so much.

[@markbearorl]

Thank you for having Jonathan Frakes on your podcast! I had no idea you had this show and the KZbin algorithm suggested it for me due to all the videos I’ve watched with him. I was throughly entertained the entire time. Also, Jeph is just adorable. I’m now a subscriber and will be going back though and watch your older episodes! ❤

[@peterkazmir]

I have gone to maybe three conventions my whole life (I'm in my 50s), and every time was (primarily) to see folks from Star Trek. I have to honestly say Every. Single. Person. I've met from Next Gen on has been an amazing person and I'm so happy to have met them, ESPECIALLY Jonathan Frakes. He is EXACTLY who you think he is and the world is a better place for it.

[@puffyshirt8406]

I like how honest and wholesome this interview is.

[@deadmeat8754]

Absolutely loved the Convention Circuit Celebrities insights. This was a great and relaxed _conversation_ . Hearing their industry insider experiences was captivating. Glad Katee pulled the Riker Maneuver and got Frakes on the show for our benefit. 👍

[@Fuuntag]

This is going to be good. Finally, a Battlestar X Star Trek crossover.

[@LaraA55]

Yup 👍

[@andyhepburn6855]

Make it so say we all

[@jgvillan01]

I was going to say Bo-Katan Kryze and William Riker.

[@One.Zero.One101]

@@andyhepburn6855 Fracking Engage!

[@andyhepburn6855]

​@@One.Zero.One101😂😂😂

[@lanabritt8783]

It's no mystery to me why he has a 39-year relationship with his wife when I hear him constantly speak of her in such a glowing manner!

[@Silphage]

Watched your Jewel Staite interview clip only to see you've got a Frakes interview uploaded only a few hours ago! Very nice!

[@billhurt3644]

Jonathan Frakes is the entire sci fi eco systems extremely cool uncle that tells the most amazing stories from his endlessly interesting life, and dude knows everyone and has anecdotes about everyone. You could just listen to the guy all day.

[@joshuakarp2586]

I 100% agree with you about actors MAKING MONEY. I have gone to 8 conventions over the last 1.5 years. My sons and I have an awesome time and, in fact, we met you, Katie, in Richmond, VA. You were SO KIND to my boys and it was a pleasure meeting you. And we are HAPPY to pay for the con, the photos and autos, etc. Thank you!

[@Jayneflakes]

How you ended this show is how I speak to my dearest and most beloved friends. Thank you for your insights and the laughs during these shows. Love from an old Sci-Fi nerd in the UK

[@MM-pl5ed]

amazing times! we love this upload! thank you so much!

[@CelestialShaman44]

Adore Frakes!! He. Is. The. MAN!! great show❤

[@skaminsky102]

P. S. I grew up with the original series, and was a fan of the original BSG. But the BSG you guys did was absolutely off the charts fantastic! I said, the entire time it ran that it wasn’t just the best sci-fi series on the air, but it was the best drama series running at the time. That still holds true! With the terrible things that are happening in the world today; BSG is even more relevant today than ever!

[@captainmorgue.i.t.s]

During the 1st STtng convention in Manhattan, at the Statler Hilton Hotel, my friend and I decided to take a break and go to the bar there. Sitting across the bar, to our surprise, was Jonathan Frakes. So, I bought him a drink, He looked over, and I said, "We're just fans!" He smiled, and we did a toast together. (I left him alone, but my friend had to get in his face!) Then we left and went back to the convention. Later on Jonathan saw us in the crowd and walked over to us, just to shake our hands. It was awesome! What a nice guy, right from the get-go. (I doubt he'll remember it, but I'll never forget! )

[@tjmcguire9417]

One of my twin daughters is named Katherine. We call her K-T. After you. She has a neurologic disablement, but she has your smile and decency. KT now 26. I have seen all of your work. Well done. Not just BG....Way to go BO.. Another Life. Your acting is off the charts good. Thank you. You do know Frakes just adopted you.... Perfect fit.

[@coecludd]

Really enjoyed the interview with Mr Frakes. It would be great to see you both acting together on something in the future. 🙂

[@kellydavidson3379]

I came forJonathan Frakes but stayed for Katee's reference to The Education of Max Bickford; loved that show!

[@dhrekkin9055]

The thought of a lovechild between Starbuck and a young Riker makes me now want a cross-genre fanfic.

[@sshepard94]

Riker (and Troi) were not among my favorite TNG characters, but Jonathan and Marina are absolutely my favorite former (and now current again) cast members. They both are just so much fun and good humored. And it always seems like the Trek things Jonathan gets involved in end up better than they might have otherwise been.

[@aaronlea9559]

Hey Starbuck!! Edit: nailed that role

[@S1LENCEDX]

What a treat. Frakes is awesome!

[@JArthurSims]

56:34 Jeff on the Star Wars universe -"There's what? Six movies...." LoL

[@AaronReese]

Every new interview I hear of his makes me like Frakes even more.

[@andrewbailey2867]

2nd chair trombone, baritone and tuba for 3 years before they realized I couldn't read the music. Also taught myself piano and made a living playing it for a while. The best ears for pitch are always put on the trombone. You're the first person I've heard who had the same hidden in plain sight story about band. Very entertaining episode.

[@conventionbound7111]

I wish these two people knew how much I love them!

[@GrognardPiper]

I remember when TNG was still putting out new episodes in the early 90’s. They got me through some tough shit when I was a kid! The reunion on Picard was like seeing old family together again.

[@StarBoKry]

We need Katee to act in Star Trek so she has her Sci-Fi trifecta.

[@chocolatemonk]

Frakes Directs, Katie acts and now the two of you finds some more writer and actor friends and come up with something new! PLEASEEEEEE! Everything you said about the con experience lol. Bless you all for being known or establishing your love and patience for the fans

[@nickwest932]

Some of the most interesting movies to come out the past couple of years have had a budget less than $50m. It forces creativity. It is doable.

[@star_man]

I was a massive TOS fan, but I loved TNG from the very first moment I saw it. Here in the UK TNG didn’t start airing until 3 years after America, so initially I used to rent the VHS tapes from our local library.

[@remconet]

First time here. It's so relaxing seeing you guys just talk. Down to earth and real.

[@scottsutherland3630]

When I was living in Edmonton, Alberta, back in the summer of 1993, I saw Frakes at a Star Trek convention there. He was great. While he was doing his panel, my friend asked him about if he got to choose the episodes he directed or if it was just random (he addresses the answer to this question at 42min in), because his episodes were always so _dark_. Frakes suddenly paused and said, with a huge smile "What an EXCELLENT question." He provided the answer, of course, but his reply was so great and so genuine. He's such an amazing guy.

[@Itsabeautifuldayalways]

Katee I'd love to see you on Star Trek, I hope you can get a part, I would watch for sure.. All the best

[@adrianvanleeuwen]

Jonathan has to be one of the nicest guys in Sci Fi, so he should be a great director to work with for any new Trek actor. Thanks Katee, I really loved your performance in Battlestar Galactica! Great work and loving this interview.

[@DrDnd4nyer]

Trombone players unite! Blowing spit, indeed! Loved this interview!

[@wraith1117]

Just a note. You can tell, when a person is actually listening, or, just waiting the time so they can speak again. I got from this the whole time, that Jonathan, while listening, was actually listening. Even when he asks questions, he seems to be genuine in hearing her response. I can only imagine how great he must have been on set in what ever, to actually listen to everyone.and make going forward accordingly. Katee does that well too. Makes this fun. JMHO.

[@xzonia1]

The first sci fi convention I ever went to headlined Frakes and Sirtis. They were so goofy and delightful together! Still remember it like yesterday, and that was 34 years ago. Thanks for having Frakes on your show, Katee! This was so much fun to watch! Here's hoping you get to do ST one day soon and complete your hattrick! :)

[@conventionbound7111]

1/4 of the way through this video and it's one of the most enjoyable things I've ever watched.

[@brettscott1797]

Frakes is awesome. Great reading through the comments hearing so many fans’ interactions being great. Excited to see more sackhoff with Star Trek

[@robertjohnson9151]

Two of my absolute favorite actors that I've had the pleasure of meeting when I lived in Los Angeles. Katie, I don't know if you remember me, but I was one of the first people to recognized you from BSG when you all were in town for the season 1 promotions. You had come into Hamburger Mary's and I told ya that you ruled as Starbuck. Meeting all of you put me in geek heaven. SOOO glad that the show was as popular and spectacular as it was. Also had the pleasure of meeting Jonathan when I worked at Paramount during the 90s and 2000s. He saved my butt by signing some items during the filming of "First Contact" to help with a fund raiser that was being run by the Special Events Department. Wishing you both continued success and big thank you for being such pleasant, amazing people

[@doorofnight87]

Great interview, and you 100% need to do something in Star Trek! You were the perfect choice for Starbuck! What I imagine the producers didn't understand (always a group of people behind the curve of change) is what Battlestar did so well that was groundbreaking at the time is writing female characters there were allowed to be both hard/tough/kickass and also 'feminine' rather than putting the character (unrealistically) in on box or the other.

[@martinjrgensen8234]

Frakes is just so charismatic ❤

[@LaraA55]

@Katee Sackhoff What I so loved about this is that it didn't feel like an interview but a warm, fun catch up chat between 2 friends who love their franchises and the Sci Fi genre so much. I found it interesting to hear about the conventions from a guests perspective. Katee, live long and prosper, hope to see you in Star trek 🖖

[@KateeSackhoffOfficial]

Thanks for listening

[@LaraA55]

@@KateeSackhoffOfficial 🤗

[@dannyjohnabbott]

Came here for Johnathon Frakes. But dear God I didn't realise Katie Sackhoff was so funny and down to earth. I absolutely HAVE to check out her other videos now.

[@royceessig6375]

Thanks you for bring up the smell at cons!!!! It's the worst... what a great show and what a wonderful guest.... so glad I found your show

[@FWAMUG]

I am not sure what Star Trek fans that Jonathan ran into but I know that I was in high school when Star Trek The Next Generation came out and I never missed an episode and I VHS recorded the episodes. I was introduced to Star Trek from reruns and I was so amazed with Star Trek The Next Generation. I would have loved it to never end. Not every episode was perfect but the cast was. You were all amazing. Oh, and Katie, I was not sure about a female Starbuck before I watched the pilot but I can honestly say that you were awesome as Starbuck and I was good with it.

[@pheayre]

This was a great interview Katee! Frakes is a legit legend...

[@malcolmgray.5913]

🤣 being Aussie, the C U Next Tuesday was obvious a few episodes back🤣 Johnathan Franks is a true Gentleman 🔥

[@BAYBAY_316]

The see you next Tuesday section of the podcast really made me laugh for the first time in a while. Thank you

[@ZWickedStepdad]

Thanks!

[@theflorgeormix]

What a pleasure ! The TNG crew of the Enterprise are really a bunch of heroes to really look up to.

[@FluxApex]

You both have been great inspirations for a lot of people.

[@jaynine]

Wow, so lucky that I ran across this podcast / interview show. You are a very relatable and pleasant host! Your laid-back and non-egotistical persona here is a breath of fresh air. I'm now a fan.

[@justinbanks2089]

Katee, you MUST be in Star Trek! You would be amazing! Frakes is so right, you would be perfect as a tough love flight instructor at Starfleet Academy.

[@the4deadlyvenoms]

Wow! What an amazing interveiw between 2 great actors of some of my favorite shows. I know you both are actors, but rarely do I see videos by them that are so geniunely down to earth and as real as this. I didnt even know Katee had a KZbin channel till today. New follower and alwats a fan! SALUTE!

[@hbhamilton3]

I've met Jonathan twice. Once at his table at a convention when I was wearing a Next Generation uniform, and just last summer at another convention where I got the photo op with him and William Shatner. Two encounters I will never forget!

[@garykitchens5593]

Love this podcast and when Jonathan frakes was on it made my day , 2 legends , deffo my favourite podcast

[@CaptainF68]

Prime directive at FedCon: Shower often and don‘t fart in the elevator! 😉 Btw: Thx to Mr Frakes for allways so friendly and nice not only with the fans but allso to us volontiers backstage. Class act 🖖🏼🥰

[@iamtheshoff]

This is a WONDERFUL interview. I had the pleasure of meeting both of you at various conventions, and you are both EXCEPTIONAL humans. Frakes complimented my beard, and you were so kind and cordial. BSG/STTNG 4 LIFE!

[@lgd6619]

Just came across your channel recently, I apologise I haven't seen your personal work as much as some but absolutely loved the talks your doing with other actors, it feels far more real and personable when the interviewer is also in the industry

[@michaelgoss8345]

Great podcast & please get this lady on Star Trek!

[@user-pp7lo1ze6x]

Such a big fan of you Katee….and Jonathan as well. Jonathan’s vacation spot is near and dear to my heart as I grew up in Maine. Currently living in Japan which my new favorite, and my current home. Hoping you will be at Celebration next year, 2025!!!

[@PeBoVision]

Katee I am so happy that you have brought your fans along on your jouney, in all its iterations. You are just so likeable, that it is wonderful to spend time with you. (Probably a result of your hanging out with so many Canadians). I offer my sincere wishes for a productive and stress-free life, from which you you can draw unparalleled success. And (to any casing agents listening) I'd love to see you in Star Trek and promise to buy all the products advertised in any episodes in which you appear! (that oughta do it)

[@SteveStanger]

What an awesome interview!

[@edgarcia4794]

Katee. At SDCC the first Battlestar panel there you came on stage with a cookie. So neato. And since then at every con I've seen you at, even outside the meet -n-greet autograph areas you've gone up to fans and made their con with a personal connection. Thank you.

[@jameswoodridge7712]

Ya'll are so lucky to have such good friends.

[@robertmalinowski6804]

Katee, thanks for having stars from Star Trek on your show. (Besides all the projects Jonathan Frakes has done). Been a star trek fan since the early 80s when i was a kid. Any people from Trek on your show would be awesome!

[@lschantz64]

No one was holding back any thoughts on this interview, great episode

[@anastasiossouris8582]

Amazing interview! Jonathan Frakes is one of the most creative persons alive today.

[@mjbvideo]

Thanks! I thoroughly enjoyed the episode.❤❤

[@joshuakarp2586]

Frakes is an amazing human. Just saw him at Trek to NJ!

[@JohnnyEstrada57]

Big Frakes fan here! I'm so glad that he is so involved with Trek to this day. This is the first time I watched the Sackoff show but I am now subscribed 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

[@whimsylore]

I will send ALL THE STAR TREK JOB VIBES 😮 MAKE IT SO, STAR TREK UNIVERSE

[@lawbinson]

This is gunna be Awesome! Hope to see you in the Star Trek universe one day. (More in the style of show of the TNG era)

[@BeingCyberBullied]

I agree, Katee would be an awesome addition the Trek universe

[@terrywkterencethescribe7114]

I'm so glad to discover your channel Katie! It's been a long minute since the days on BSG in Vancouver. I'm looking forward to seeing the rest of your show,. Oh and Jonathon Frakes is a class act too.

[@FrenchCelt]

I saw Jonathan at Indiana Comic Convention a few years back. The panel he did was an absolute blast. Dude has captivating and told the best stories. So funny, too. Also I always know I'm in for a treat when I see Jonathan is the director on a show I like...from all the Star Trek episodes over the years to shows like Leverage and Castle, which were always a fun watch, but the episodes he directed always seemed to elevate.

[@Miles_on_2wheels]

Beautiful as ever, miss you on BSG. Nice you have your show. I never knew

[@leecarleton94]

A total joy to watch/listen to. Outstanding video. ❤