Katy Perry's Lawsuit - A Travesty For Songwriters

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[@chiragsharma_]

You came a long way.😀❤️

[@mrnobody2873]

Funny, I was just thinking about the utility of anti-plagiarism software and weather I could effectively author a program given my knowledge of theory, really lack thereof. Potential issues would be regional vs. international legal standards, potential liability in each context, input format(notation, MIDI, etc.), and platform. In regard to platform, aside from the OSes (desktop, mobile app, or web), consideration for plugins or extensions for DAWs might be desirable, but the caveat is each is not language independent and would need to be re-written for each ecosystem. Would you potentially be interested in collaborating or at least helping to develop specifications to determine scope and feasibility? Authoring software can be a lengthy process and while I see a lot of places where bottlenecks could occur, I also think the core code would be reusable and could be a base from which other projects could be built. If you are interested, we should relocate this discussion.

[@RockyH.]

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[@misterknightowlandco]

When’s AC/DC going to lose their entire catalog to the owner of the G chord?

[@amerocker]

I _own_ the G chord. It's the only one I play well.

[@Dom-ko8wp]

amerocker go get your money then

[@michaelsmith2017]

@@amerocker I've got the D chord covered. If we can find who owns C we can start a class action lawsuit against anyone in history who ever used a 1-4-5 chord progression. We'll be RICH! LOL

[@somemod8045]

Michael Smith pretty sure it’s Johnny Marr coz he uses that shape all the time all over the fretboard

[@ziblot1235]

@@michaelsmith2017 Nail down the D and C and Neil Young is screwed!

[@JebusJeeb]

Rick Beato and Adam Neely on your defence team? You can't lose!

[@stevieboy444]

Gavin MacDonald. My thoughts after watching Adam’s vid was that you’d have to question the competence of Perry’s lawyers. Haven’t seen Rick’s yet but will go back & watch it. The more noise made about this the better!

[@somemod8045]

GO ON ADAM ME SON

[@numanuma20]

Adam would be the best. He would explain why the lawsuit is frivolous.

[@somemod8045]

Chris Garner good point

[@numanuma20]

@@somemod8045 He talked about how you can't own a minor scale with the lawsuit.

[@klivegee]

It's just lawyers and money ~ nothing to do with music

[@r4vr4c]

klivegee that could be the new title of dire straits new album

[@joeampolo42]

@@r4vr4c Didn't Warren Zevon already write 'Send money, guns and lawyers'?

[@HBSuccess]

Neither do Katy Perry or some random rap "artist"

[@TheNinnyfee]

It's good to protect artists from being stolen from. But unless it is a substantial part of the song and you can truly hear that it's the same composition/lyrics it's ridiculous. There's a reason the KP lawsuit took 5 years, even in the legal circuit that usually has a slower pace. It's because Flame was adamant about it or his lawyers influenced him to continue.

[@senza4591]

Still marks a shit precedent

[@endezeichengrimm]

He has no reputation since no one has heard of him and will soon forget about him.

[@executionsquad3926]

I don't agree: m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/i4W3q5tueb-efLs

[@OveranalyzingEverything]

Wow. You gotta chill there. Just because you don't listen to him, doesn't mean he doesn't exist and has no reputation. Most artists don't know you even exist, does that mean you have no reputation?Although I don't agree with the lawsuit and think it's completely unnecessary, I do know that Katy Perry had a beginning as a "Christian" musician, however long that lasted and however long ago. It's not unreasonable to think that she would know who Flame or other similar musicians to him are.

[@anthonyabramo7919]

Cool there goes basically the entire blues genre, every 4 chord song that exists, and practically all metal in e minor. Nice.

[@JozRad]

Led Zepplin...whoops

[@aprilkurtz1589]

No more pentatonic minor for anybody!

[@amjan]

A huge chunk of metal in e-minor has chromatic riffs, so a lot of it is unique.

[@RetroPlus]

What about the lick?

[@anthonyabramo7919]

@@RetroPlus dude there goes the lick rip

[@Deliquescentinsight]

All because when they bring in lawyers and 'experts' music is completely misunderstood-the entire western music tradition has recycled musical figures. what about Blues, as a genre, all of those I-IV-V progressions? It is absurd, and I refute the technical basis of this lawsuit, we need to resist this!

[@videnteloco]

I agree with you and support your point, and I understand, however there's a technical error...you can't have copyright for a chord progression, but you are totally right and again, agree 1000%

[@gameoftones77]

Great example!! By this precedent, every single modern blues musician is subject to lawsuit by the original bluesmen and women.

[@prmfirestorm0863]

Absolutely... How many songs can I play on guitar with 3-5 chords... almost all pop

[@executionsquad3926]

Nothing to do with it; this song is simply almost a cover.

[@Deliquescentinsight]

@@executionsquad3926 That is your expert opinion is it, like the anus, opinions proliferate ubiquitously. I don't like anonymous know it alls.

[@umbertoyltp]

I'm scared to comment, in case someone wants 43 percent of my two cents :-(

[@RylanStorm]

Those are ALL words I've used before. Please PM me your lawyer's address. My team will be in contact

[@sweetLemonist]

Musicians should now listen to Flame's other songs, find similarities and sue the shit out of him

[@Dunkman545]

Yeah, this should backfire at him.

[@Grantham777]

I like that Idea a LOT!

[@steveworley2997]

Christian songs plagiarize everything else in the music world. The pious sacrimonious scumbags have been doing this for centuries. Same for their writings and everything else.

[@jamesc5205]

Their song use lyrics right out of the Bible and why can’t they come up with new tunes. Everyone has to redo the same songs over and over.....

[@jjjjj2220]

There pigeon John and red cloud Christian but very oringinal in sound

[@josephzdyrski]

As a fellow song writer and composer.... These cases are making writing especially complicated.

[@executionsquad3926]

Song is copied: m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/i4W3q5tueb-efLs

[@sk8ermGs]

Lol

[@stephensherry6633]

@@executionsquad3926 oh, is that why he lost?

[@stewartsa]

Don’t understand how a jury can rule in favour... Perry’s defence team must have been rubbish.

[@psmolinsky]

Not necessarily. While juries do a pretty good job, some juries do not, no matter how good the lawyering. For good reason, most parties settle because juries are inherently unpredictable.

[@RobertWGreaves]

I became a musician in 1959 with my first guitar. I recently retired as a professor of sound engineering. Over the years I have come to hate the music industry, but I still love music. But I want nothing to do with it professionally. Intellectual property laws and copyright laws have become absurd. But this law suit should not even fit within the already absurd laws.

[@PurityVendetta]

I will second your sentiment. I grew to hate everything about the industry while working in it. I wished I'd stayed working as a sound engineer/designer in theatre.

[@shilohstore6086]

it is amazing how much those two songs do not sound alike

[@ZZ-mh2nv]

That s a frigging lie. The main beat of the songs are near identical

[@cai6972]

Let's be honest, they sound super similar. But everything similar about them is so basic im sure hundreds of new FL studio users made similar shit on their first time

[@tahoemike5828]

And I thought I was impressed with you before! Very well said Mary. It was getting late, I was afraid that we were going to have a Tuesday without Mary; this was worth the wait.

[@IPushHard]

I OWN the D chord! ....AND 4/4 time. Don't you dare use either or I'll sue your ass. These lawsuits are silly and it's not surprising that non-musician jurys have found in the plaintiffs favor. ...What they don't understand is the immense precedent they are setting for all music and the impact it could have.

[@timtoongamer]

You beat me to it lol. I'll claim 3/4 time and key of A. Seriously agree, the lawsuit was ridiculous and it could get in way of creativity for other music creators cause of fear of unintentionally copying a big popular song even if very little is in common with other song. I was surprised at the outcome of the lawsuit tbh

[@AnimationArrow]

@@timtoongamer Anyone taken 6/8 yet? I might take C major too while I'm at it.

[@unclejack2093]

I claim the E minor scale, no more Metallica for anybody!!

[@nathanielcava4128]

I kinda think that there should be a time period when to sue haha. Dark horse has been out for a hot minute. You can’t wait forever.

[@misterknightowlandco]

And that’s how AC/DC Lost their entire catalog...

[@akesvensson3778]

Don't apologize Mary, ever! Beato and Neely have their crowds, you have yours. I'm sure you reach some other individuals than them. You have your own space. Fill it up! And what you're saying here is very important and it is important that you say it too! And that you reach more people with this very important knowledge. Keep up the good work Mary!

[@rjmcmooseknuckle]

Oh and every blues player, why dont we hear of those lawsuits...exactly :)

[@orlock20]

Led Zeppelin was sued many times for ripping off blues songs. There is an old quote that says, "Good artists borrow and great artists steal." One of he reasons why old blues artists didn't care was that they sold songs to labels and no longer had the rights to them. Many would have a stage name for each label and sell their rights to the song to each label. They made their money playing live and so do the blues performers of today.

[@johnnytheblacksmith6932]

not to mention the "amen break" prolly the most sampled song in history !

[@theshyguy1580]

And all the gospel artists who've used this blues progression.

[@Justin-ck3wo]

Uhhhh cause noone listens to or pays money for blue so there is no money to sue for

[@Dug6666666]

Blues as a style and its leading lights never had it so good, if a curtain bunch of British guitarist didn't rip them off with great reverence. Where would we be today if back in the day someone could lay claim to the 12 bar turn around.

[@BiPolar_Bear_Music]

What reputation was damaged? I never heard of Flame before, now I have, result: he gets more plays and views.

[@CavemanJesus4Life]

He wanted 20 million dollars, ahahahahahahahahahaah that's a laugh. Because his song didn't make it he sues Katy for making a hit song.

[@altonmassson]

Björn Eriksson it was a #1 gospel song and was nominated for a GRAMMY trust me Katy Perry's producers heard the song.

[@keithperkins1717]

@@altonmassson that's assuming that all producers listen to every number 1 song on every chart in every genre every week. That is quite a deal of music because I play gospel music for my church and I have never heard of Flame or his song until this lawsuit. Plus, depending on the genre, number 1 does not always equate to $20,000,000. That just means that during a given period a song out sold other songs on a given chart list, not that it made millions of dollars. if I sell 10,000 units in a week under the genre of R&B and the next highest sells 9,800 on the same chart, that could make me a #1 artist, but not $20,000,000.

[@Hiiiiiiiiieeee]

I’m no expert but they don’t sound that similar to me. People just grasp at straws for 5 more minutes of fame and five more dollars. #TeamKaty

[@hristi.yanche8487]

I love how she wants Rick Beato and Adam Neely on her defense team! Very smart choice, Mary!

[@mikerinehart]

By the standards being set by these juries and disingenuous musicologists every blues artist should be suing every other blues artist.

[@orlock20]

Except the old style was to see the rights to the labels so there was no incentive to sue for something they no longer owned.

[@RobertWGreaves]

Fortunately Katy won the appeal. Lets hope it ends there. But if it does not, then the correct strategy moving forward is to deconstruct every release by Flame comparing it with every previous release looking for any similarities and then drafting a law suit for every single example.

[@Dr_Reason]

To paraphrase Warren Zevon: "Send Lawyers, Guns and Money,... I'm going to write a song."

[@lingyu6322]

The stooges I. Wanna be your dog vs new order blue. Monday

[@BitcoinMotorist]

The music video for Michael Jackson's "Remember the Time" has a bigger claim of influence on "Dark Horse" than "Joyful Noise"

[@Bldyiii]

Bitcoin Motorist i was just thinking that!

[@sersastark]

Facts

[@cjhepburn7406]

What...u expect Michael Jackson to jump up outta the grave or something? C'mon...

[@nightsilvermoon6653]

@@cjhepburn7406 there's still people owning the song

[@smithsunleashed]

@@cjhepburn7406 Lol exactly. I know I shouldnt have done this, but I couldn't help letting out a laugh

[@randyvanvliet226]

John Mayer flat out says when playing the blues, who he is ripping off. Good music writing and playing should be encouraged.

[@RedemptionArtsTeam]

Ummmm Have you tried playing his "ripped off" blues?

[@toribiogubert7729]

@@RedemptionArtsTeam No one said Mayer ain't a good musician, just that say where he burrowed some inspiration.

[@toribiogubert7729]

But again, I guess rock n' roll was found in stolen gimmicks of previous acts. Imagine if a guy like Tommy Iommi wake up with Flame's mentality, every heavy metal band in the worl would be sued XD

[@RedemptionArtsTeam]

I was referring to JMs playing, its really unique and different...nothing stolen or even borrowed there. The only way you find out is if you try and play his stuff.

[@end00d85]

@@RedemptionArtsTeam he's genius at borrowing a tiny little part of his favorite musicians licks/styles. He combined and mixed it all with his own style, thus became his signature.

[@endriu55]

Cmaj Amin Fmaj Gmaj Ok just so all of you know, I own this now and will sue everybody who uses it, no matter what key.

[@RobertRoweMusic]

You just copyrighted "Heart & Soul". You can now sue every child who gets near a piano. 🤣

[@eddie51502012]

so interesting, excellent analysis!!! Thanks for sharing Mary

[@dropkickmonk3y]

I also talked about this and I agree with you. I believe this should not be conducted together with a jury who know nothing about music. This should be a musicologist vs musicologist representing each side. Whoever representing Perry did a pisspoor job at presenting the value of melody vs a riff or ostinato.

[@brendanmorales4504]

Let's all just claim the 4 chord songs.

[@mrkrunch4340]

I think you'll find that's mine 😉

[@r4vr4c]

Brendan Morales how do punk bands go about this using 3/4 power chords throughout an entire song? Only so many different combinations and permutations can be created with the amount of chords being played

[@joemanez5290]

I call dibs on I vi IV V. (I think Blink 182 already owns I V vi IV)

[@batatanna]

I own II - V - I now guys, be done with jazz

[@joemanez5290]

psoas oh man, way to corner the market. let’s hope the guy that owns the blues progression doesn’t hear about this case.

[@jcw231]

The beat from the first example and the melody from the second are so astronomically simple that I don't understand how they can be proprietary at all...? Especially given how vastly different the arrangements sound when all the layers are together.

[@TheStudioRats]

Thanks Mary for a concise and well-informed video! The research and time you must of put into this is inspiring.

[@markbryant8542]

As a Christian and a lover of music, I was disappointed that Flame took Perry to court. Even more upset when he won. It does indeed set a problematic and, dare I say, unholy precedent

[@doneriksen5599]

I agree. Sueing someone is net a very Christian thing to do. Flame needs to reread his Bible. Plus, with all of the music that has been written throughout the centuries, it's not surprising that parts of music are similar to music that has already been written.

[@ChrisPage68]

My sweet lord! I wish they'd stop, collaborate and listen... 😉

[@Snarkapotamus]

By George, I love the reference!

[@padywac1970]

I see what you did there! Brilliant! Kudos!

[@jhspedals]

Well done!

Thank you for putting your voice to this conversation. It's important and your insights are priceless.

[@sameersmerchant]

Amazing video, I continue to be surprised by your work.

[@xZerplinxProduction]

The way her voice instantly changes from saying " chewsday tawks" and back into seriousness is lowkey hilarious

[@amerocker]

What is Chewsday Tawks?

[@inz1]

“Shit.” -every blues musician ever after this legal finding

[@elderhiker7787]

Nice Analysis. I learned a lot. Keep strumming.

[@vipercrazy]

If it's "chewsday", does that mean you upload to "YouChewb"?

[@voornaam3191]

When she will be smashing rich, I advice her to buy a Powsh, a Woyce ow a Fewwawwi. Americans...

[@voornaam3191]

Her guitars were all built by famous "loosers", I guess? Her strats have "tram low" bars? Does she own a "know" caster, yet? Or one of those famous super heavy Logs?

[@lukebrinkley9279]

Mary, thank you, but America's legal system is long foolish. SMH

[@briancox8422]

America’s legal system is largely based off the British legal system.

[@Clay300]

The original legal system was almost perfect, and no it wasnt based on the british legal system they are both based on the isreal republic legal system

[@briancox8422]

@@Clay300 Yeah you are almost right there. Common Law(aka Judicial Precedent or case law) is of English origin look it up. There is a theory by John Makdisi that says English Common Law was influenced by medievel Islamic Law.(Not Israel, that is how Israel is spelled not Isreal). Modern Israel was carved out of Ottoman Syria by the British after WWI, where they adopted many of the English based law practices we know today. Also NO legal system has been perfect in history, they are documents made by people who are flawed, and need to be revised in order to be applicable to the times. The laws Mary is speaking of are much more modern law practices developed in the late 1800s early 1900, when trademark and copyright laws were largely revised. They continue to be revised today, as more cases of precedence are ruled on by judges. England developed most of its copyright laws, along side the development of the printing press. History check complete. Sorry Mary for Trolling. I only was trying to state that American's legal system wasn't the only foolish system, Britain's is as well.

[@Clay300]

@@briancox8422 i believe laws are suppose to work for the people and not control the behavior of people through passing laws that do just that. looking into the history of the collapse of the roman empire and the story of Theodoric the great, i would say its all mostly based off Judaism at witch our constitution descends from Magna Carta coming from the biblical idea of the ten commandments.

[@briancox8422]

@@Clay300 yeah except the Magna Carta has nothing to do with modern law really. The term Common Law came about in 1066 predating the Magna Carta first of all. Modern Law called Common Law/Judicial Law/Case Law is modern law and what our governments are based off of not the Magna Carta from 1215 that just limited the monarch originally. Modern or "English Law" was formed in Britain not somewhere else, the Americans adopted most of it and changed some stuff to make it seem like they were doing something. The British Legal System, is probably the most influential system in the world. There are only a few parts of the Magna Carta still in effect, and they don't really do much, now that Britain is a true democracy(sorta haha). What still holds on from the Magna Carta is it defends the freedom and rights of the English Church(most people aren't too active in the Church these days, just say they are and like to know it is there) another confirms the liberties and customs of London and other cities, and the MAIN ONE that still actual counts is trial by jury. Laws are meant to establish standards, keep order, resolve dispute(what we are dealing with), and protect liberties and freedoms.

[@darrenross9168]

Hi Mary, it is ridiculous, it is a bit like saying "you are not allowed to put green next to blue in your picture because i painted a lake in a field and your peacock feathers are ruining the vibe of my picture" So how many variations of seven notes in a 4/4 time signature is there, i am pretty sure that its all been used before. Well hopefully, it will all come to sense, all the best, Darren Ross.

[@executionsquad3926]

It's not! m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/i4W3q5tueb-efLs

[@benames771]

Excellent video! I think you brought a great perspective to this conversation!

[@bluesrockngearwjoeyg8853]

Thank you Mary for taking the time to make and post this vid.

[@00Ryder]

Plagiarism, influence or not even remotely the same... I really hope all musicians band together in this. I also hope this ridiculous decision is appealed and dropped.

[@cjhepburn7406]

G R Prolly case closed. Money's been taxed.

[@frmcf]

The lad's reputation has gone from 'literally zero repution, who even are you?' to 'oh, are you that greedy Christian weirdo that sued Katy Perry?'.

[@nosajsamaniego4512]

He won a Grammy, dude... Do better;

[@robbermakesmusic]

@@nosajsamaniego4512 weird greedy Christian Grammy winner. Happy?

[@nosajsamaniego4512]

@@robbermakesmusic He won a Grammy, dude...; Use commas, dude...; Do better;

[@smithsunleashed]

@@nosajsamaniego4512 Grammys suck. They have scammed many artists. and stop being a grammy nazi. This isnt school. It's a comment section, clearly it's understandable enough.

[@amguit]

Damn! Ya got me juiced up! Enjoyed this

[@altbouch]

Great episode Mary. All I can say is right on! You introduce logic in this conversation. What a concept!

[@groovinhooves]

The musicologist for the plaintiff cracks me up. Someone send him a copy of Allen Forte & Steven Gilbert, Introduction to Schenkerian Analysis, New York & London, Norton, 1982.

[@cjhepburn7406]

Mark Hoover Whoa. Heavy.

[@davidnuckols8151]

I hope Rick Beato is on the consulting team for the counter suit. Excellent thoughts. thank you.

[@SternLX]

Flashing up the Art of Noise example made me smile. Moments in Love is still in my "Chill" playlist to this day. :)

[@THEMOONWOLF]

This is really eloquently delivered, very interesting.

[@PhazeRCIL]

I can’t wait to get an Orange amp for my Jackson V

[@FaMinore]

George Harrison's "This Song" (1976) about his lawsuit for "My sweet Lord" seems to be a perfect description for this nonsense case (even more the videoclip with lawyers showing vampire teeth)

[@amerocker]

I bought 'Thirty-Three and 1/3', by George Harrison, on vinyl new. My older sisters were surprised. It seemed that they didn't know that I knew who he was. And it was my older sisters whom raised me on Rock music, particularly The Beatles. "My experts tell me it's ok."

[@Jopeymessmusic]

Oohh, new camera angles? Interesting choices Mary!

[@craigspicer4296]

Great work Mary

[@shawnbell6392]

Academics are not experts in any expression based medium. I recently saw a segment in French news talking about some well known film director being interviewed. The interviewer brought up a scene in one of the director's films and spoke in detail about its meaning. The director replied that wasn't his actual meaning in the scene. Interviewer responds "....but I have a PH.D. in film studies..."

[@deadeaded]

Ah, but you see academics have invented this absurd thing called "the death of the author", which basically means the author doesn't decide what their own creation is supposed to mean.

[@noonsound4894]

Everyone here talking about blues songs....how about rap and hip hop? Same melody (none), same beats, same format, same vocal styling, same dance moves...etc etc. This case definitely needs to go to appeal.

[@rockabilly12]

great video!

[@chkm8k21]

A breath of fresh air and voice of reason! Thank you Mary!!

[@shutupandeaturgrass8872]

After Dark Horse lawsuit lose , the Opportunist target Gaga's Shallow and there'll be more victim coming

[@Individual_two]

Well done Mary! This got me to thinking - Will there be a rash of lawsuits in other music genres like the Blues? Such as, will some heirs to a Blues great get a high-priced lawyer and try to lay claim to every song written in the Blues Scale? Will country music songwriters go after one another over the general similarity of songs in that genre? It's a crazy world out there!

[@damien6685]

Good argument Serious bonus points for the extensive reference section

[@connorpearson2000]

Quite dig the beat on top of each other - might “use it as influence” for my own song😂

[@schmalzilla1985]

There is a finite number of combinations available, at some point there will be no original songs.

[@noahdominicsilvio2472]

This makes me so sad because when I'm writing music, I want to free myself. I want to express my thoughts and emotions, not be on high alert like a college undergrad writing an essay.

[@vtmusic5173]

Great work Mary, you did some good research

[@jimjonjimjonjon]

awesome input/video greetings from Berlin

[@FieryFlamingFajitas]

The guy that's doing the suing is an absolute idiot. What's next, suing someone for using similar words in a song? It's so petty and ridiculous

[@cjhepburn7406]

That Rad Guy Correction...rich idiot.

[@schaddalton]

Can one's reputation really be damaged when no one has heard of you prior to filing a frivolous lawsuit?

[@douglasfuqua7082]

Extremely well researched, Mary. EXCELLENT POINTS. As songwriters (and performer's/musicians), we truly are in perilous, litigious times. Thank you for this summary and view on a very difficult subject. Hmmmm. (Crossbow)

[@timkiurski2066]

Appreciate your knowledge and thoughts. Very well done! It should be appealed immediately.

[@prmfirestorm0863]

Shiz... If I were to go through my Wilcoxen snare solo book, I could and would find rhythms that everyone has "stolen". There are only so many, until you get into obscure time signatures.

[@cjhepburn7406]

PrmFirestorm 086 See...u understand stuff.

[@MiscMitz]

That is insane and very scary. Here's hoping it is over turned. 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@HisAssholiness]

thanks for taking the time and caring enuff to splain

[@gregbutterworth7046]

Keep your guitars away from that radiator!!!!!!!

[@GitarrenTobi]

I dont think they are on

[@gmcjetpilot]

Mary great job. This and Rick Beato's analysis shows this law suit is without merit.

[@CorbCorbin]

Don’t know how I missed your take on this. Really agree with your take, and it has to be frightening for songwriters. I mean how many songs use Am to C to G, or Am>C>D>G? When Willy Dixon sued Zeppelin it wasn’t because they were playing the same blues progressions, it went can deeper into how a song is crafted. These lawyers will take a case they think can be profitable for a cash out upon settlement. Depressing.

[@anen5188]

You are a smart cookie and a logical one👏👏👍

[@coltonaallen]

At what point does "inspiration" become "infringement", if it is even copied off of an obscure song at all? (I don't even think it sounds like the "infringed" upon song at all). The lawsuit is frivolous and greedy and frightening for fellow musicians who have only 12 chords (7 or 8 in a single key) to work with. Just mathematically speaking, certain progressions, melodies, etc. Will be emulated, but that does not make it infringement. "Ice Ice Baby" is a case of clear infringement, not "Dark Horse." Just plain foolishness. And this comes from a fellow follower of Christ. I think he (the artist and all involved in the prosecution) ought to be ashamed of himself!

[@geoffkeelerguitar9139]

Colton Allen 'only 12 chords to work with' ???? Look at the chord structure for something like the crusaders 'street life' .

[@coltonaallen]

@@geoffkeelerguitar9139 I think you misunderstand my comment. There are only 12 notes in the chromatic scale is what I mean.

[@cjhepburn7406]

Arthur Cole I love how everyone is citing Ice Ice Baby. Has there only been 2 cases of copyright infringement in the last 40 years? That's one every 20 years. Surley u/we can dodge that bullet? No?

[@Nanolis]

Behold, the new era of copyright trolls has arrived, Winter has finally come.

[@autokrohne]

As a guitarist I find I can play any random phrase of notes or any combination of chords and someone in the room will tell what song I was playing. It is often a tune I do not know and have never heard. I no longer write any music. It has all been written.

[@dracojohnny4660]

Thx you for this information I am really aware of what I need to be aware of now thx you Ms Spender

[@proudtobegrumpy4969]

So much for Christian behaviour!

[@matthewkuhl79]

Oh, you mean like Luke 6:29, 30? i've never met a Christian in my life.

[@crhu319]

? Claiming to control everything by right is a Christian thing. Condemning pagans in courts they control is a Christian thing. Hiring crooked lawyers is also a Christian thing. This is all totally Christian.

[@slooob23]

@@crhu319 Jesus said all that did he? I think you've confused assholes with Jesus

[@clivematthew-wilson7918]

fortunately, Perry has appealed.

[@anthonyoliver]

Clear and insightful analysis

[@Dragonblaster1]

Mary, please tell me you don't permanently keep your guitar rack right next to a radiator? A brilliant way to crack the finish.

[@MLMguitarguy]

They are grasping at straws because that guy is a nobody. And this is the only way he can make money.

[@orlock20]

Yet he won a pay to get award called a Grammy.

[@eyeamnecyrb4567]

I think the law suit shouldn't count as a law suit . the songs are different .

[@FarmerSlideJoeBob]

Interesting Video and interesting topic on my birthday :P

[@Jon1Surf1Lim]

Amazingly explained Mary, luckily I have never heard the songs you were discussing and never intend too..👍🏻😁

[@martinpaddle]

You had the chance to join the dark side - sue Shawn Mendes - and with this as precedent might have gotten away with it, but you didn't. Good on ya.

[@q.e.d.9112]

The heading of this video uses the phrase “a travesty for” which clearly plagiarises an essay I wrote in 1962,which contained the identical phrase. You will be hearing from my lawyers.😉

[@donald-parker]

Yes!

[@guypolson]

Well said, thanks

[@glenbe4026]

Not "a jury". AN AMERICAN JURY. There is a rather distinct difference.

[@musiclaboratory9694]

Only in the minds of the ego inflated and self-important is there a difference

[@Alpha-Andromeda]

Exactly. Only Americans can have a president that lies about using prostitution, to which they turn a blind eye and then is swayed by Christian standards to choose how to penalize musicians. Basically, it’s the country of double standards. 👎🏼 🇺🇸

[@sorkeror]

I remember the good old days when conflicts between musicians were ended with knives

[@cjhepburn7406]

Martin Wängelin Now now...not Christian...or maybe...

[@edward3077ify]

Also, thanks for your view! You can always make subjects like this make sense to the normal people listening! Love your videos Mary!!

[@GeneSchmidt]

Awesome job. Very intelligent.

[@laxr5rs]

This is outrageous. So wrong. We need a songwriter crowd source defense fund.