Katz COVID Reality Check29: The Pandemic's Moving Line

[@vibrancechiropractic6505]

I am so grateful for your continued perspectives. Your eloquently express, nuanced and big picture thoughts on the pandemic have been a real blessing. Thank you!

[@wynterpingel6059]

Thank you, Dr. Katz, for your calm, clear explanations of where we are. I received my first dose of the Moderna vaccine this afternoon, amid persistent fear-driven pleas from loved ones that I postpone my appointment and do more research. It is hard sometimes to think logically, to talk of risk/benefit, when thinking of those we love. I feel like I'm rambling and getting lost here in what I'm saying, which ultimately is that your video brought me needed perspective and comfort and I thank you for that. Keep up the good work ... but hopefully not for too much longer!

[@NJRenewableEnergy]

One more thing. Mutations. I’m told the most different variant from wuhan CV19 is about .3% different. In other words 99.97% the same. If SARS 1 is 20% different or 80% the same and 17 years ago infected SARS 1 patients saw robust T cell response to CV19. Why are we even having this conversation????

[@wendychee4978]

YES! Finally! Someone who gets it!

[@DrDavidLKatz]

Human and chimpanzee DNA is from 96% to 99% confluent. It doesn't take much genetic divergence to produce monumentally important distinctions in phenotypic expression! I would caution against any conclusions regarding strains based on "percent change" in DNA.

[@NJRenewableEnergy]

@@DrDavidLKatz I think your comparison is a little apples to oranges. The point is that SARS 1 T cells easily recognized CV19 with a 20% change. After all the fear mongering for 6 months about variants. The yelling from the roof tops that Florida would be brought to its knees from the UK & african strain if they didn't lockdown. None of this immense panic has come true. There are something like 12000 known variants. As you have described many times, completely normal behavior. There was and has been plenty of actual real concerns about CV19, why governments and news agencies felt it necessary to stoke fears further not only has shown them to be completely wrong but in my view has only further reduce their creditability and trust with the general public.

[@classroommgmt]

Thank you for your comments. They are always compelling! Thanks to your explanations, I did a 180 and decided to get the vaccine!

[@OceanFrontVilla3]

I looked at the VAERS reports, read some of them, looked at the data (2,349 covid vaccine deaths, over 5,000 hospitalizations) and decided against it. If you take proper supplements, your immune system will handle covid easily. If it doesn't, there's ivermectin.

[@damianpos8832]

@@OceanFrontVilla3 wise mindset... Let vaccines for people, who are actually at risk.

[@elizabethandchrisconlon8781]

Thank you for sharing your perspective!

[@debid9196]

Thank you. Please keep the videos coming as you give me food for thought as I am trying to deceide what to do. We don’t have outbreaks in our area yet but I want to be prepared for the best vaccine to get for me and my husband. So please keep updating us..

[@katarineegressy1504]

Dr Katz, I have been a long time fan. I enjoy your videos and your point of view. Do you mind improving the audio of your videos? I suspect that the computer microphone that you are using for recording is simply not strong enough. Thank you

[@carolkaiser4986]

Grateful my husband and I are vaccinated with Moderna, and my adult sons have received the first dose of Pfizer so far . Thanks for the update.

[@OceanFrontVilla3]

Thanks for joining the experiment so we can determine over the next number of years what these experimental products do to the human body😉

[@jameskulevich8907]

Hmmm. Sounds like I have a better chance of surviving Covid.

[@JCResDoc94]

*it will never be over* . it will be annual forever. youre right about the strange push towards the lipid nanoparticle products tho, absolutely. very strange, if these are all the data, for everyone to issue warnings under these conditions. and no, it is the adeno virus vector. we've seen it before. the last, and only time i know of, we tried one. could be wrong. but we're all just making stuff up - so i stand by it.

[@mandimansfield668]

We have had similar issues here in the UK with blood clots and the AstraZenica jab. Are there similarities in the J&J and AZ vaccines?

[@DrDavidLKatz]

Yes- both use the same adenovirus vector.

[@OceanFrontVilla3]

Other vaccines cause clotting too, not just covid vaccines.

[@ticaji]

So, the same type of clotting suspected in the JJ vaccines also occurs in relation to oral contraceptives -? The six women affected were all in their reproductive years. Were they on oral contraceptives?

[@OceanFrontVilla3]

And a second is critical

[@EricaEteson]

I appreciate the explanation of how new strains arise. Does this mean that the best approach now is strict social distancing so as to minimize the number of infections and, hence, the number of new mutations?

[@damianpos8832]

No.. Then we will never get back to normal

[@JCResDoc94]

*the single dose would have stormed the market, destroying the others. probably unrelated.*

[@wim0104]

nope. the single-dose ones are old tech, tech that has had problems for decades. as proven yet again. and they take too long to create/setup. let's hope we get much better flu vaccines out of this.

[@OceanFrontVilla3]

Not taking any of these. Never had a flu shot either. Why would I? I've never had flu in my 64 years.

[@damianpos8832]

Garanteed there will be push to vacfinate you every 6 months for new strains.... So yea your rarional is irrelevant

[@OceanFrontVilla3]

How many who died from "their" shot had a clotting issue?

[@OceanFrontVilla3]

There are so far 2,349 reported covid vaccine deaths, no autopsies, so how do we know how many died from clots or other vaccine induced issues???🤫😉💉💉💰💰💰💰☠️⚰️

[@JCResDoc94]

13:50 i still cant taste right. even food i enjoy. i will say that. it is coming back tho. im still not sure that, if we had have opened up, and hyper-funded elder care and hospitals (or even...not?) the young would have given us enough general immunity, ending in a bad flu yr. 16:30 *also, not just the numbers of random mutations, but add hundreds of millions selection pressure of a vaccine - may select for escape variants preping next years market, nestcepas? not if we didnt lcokdown* that is 3 comments. ill leave it. reasonable as always. gr8 vid.

[@OceanFrontVilla3]

Take more zinc. You need at least 50 mgs daily and healing will come much quicker if you also take quercetin and NAC. Additionally you'll need to totally drop all caffeine and alcohol until all has resolved.

[@piecesofme8531]

“The best vaccine is the first one you can get in your arm. All the vaccines are extremely safe and effective.”

[@GILLARDA1]

Lmao. Extremely, huh? 😆

[@OceanFrontVilla3]

😉🤫💉💉💰💰💰💰💰☠️⚰️

[@damianpos8832]

That sentiment is dumest i ever came across...

[@qdogg290]

I wouldn't call myself an advocate for the lockdowns or the imposed mitigation measures, but wouldn't the virus just have mutated faster if we tried to expedite the process and left everyone to their own devices?

[@timothybogle1461]

The thinking though is that the wave would have been short but a lot bigger with more people getting immunity much faster. Meaning the paths of transmission would cut off a lot faster in theory. The argument for flattening the curve means that the virus doesn't affect everyone at the same time meaning that lives can be saved with hospital capacity. It had yet to be determined if the area under said curve will be more or greater than the if we only protected the vulnerable. Furthermore Coronaviruses seem to have an ability to inhibit memory cells from forming leading to long lasting immunity. You retain some protection but not lifelong with other viruses. The vaccines create that memory response which is good. What I still think is lacking with Covid19 is a solid treatment and I honestly do not think enough was invested into it. We can re-assume normality if we happen to get this, there is a drug that can keep us out of the ICU.

[@OceanFrontVilla3]

@@timothybogle1461 Ivermectin

[@DrDavidLKatz]

To be clear, if there was advocacy for leaving 'everyone to their own devices,' it did not come from me! I advocated for risk-stratified responses to the pandemic, so that those at lowest risk were exposed in a first wave, with subsequent waves of intentional 'exposure' predicated on risk, and empirical evidence gathered as we went. (Those at high risk of harms from SARS-CoV-2 should have been protected more, not less.) Time is among the factors favoring viral strainiation, so this would have mitigated- partly - against the advent of so many new strains. It takes time for any new strain to gain a purchase in the population, and curtailing that opportunity would have shifted the balance of power from the virus, toward us.

[@OceanFrontVilla3]

@@DrDavidLKatz IVERMECTIN HAS NO RISK.. why don't you do a discussion on the 85 studies and the success of this cheap off patent drug and the countries successfully using it?

[@qdogg290]

@@DrDavidLKatz Thanks for the clarification, doc. I haven't been thrilled with the way this situation has been handled. At no point in human history have we hid away from a pathogen like this for as long as we have. It's also disheartening to see folks not willing to engage in life after vaccination. Sure there remains some token degree of risk, but we seem to have become completely averse to taking any risk at all these days.

[@emetzger]

so, you summarily say "it makes sense to pause the vaccine". why? how you do you study it if you're not administering it? and why would you pause a medicine for which less than 1 in 1 million cases (for the vast majority of recipients) results in a non-lethal complication? I remember when you brought perspective like this to these videos. what happened to that?

[@DrDavidLKatz]

Very simple, Erik: we know about 6 cases, no doubt the most severe, since they always come to attention first. How many more are there, as yet unreported? We hope, none- in which case the J&J vaccine administration should resume. But if for every case identified so far, there are a hundred others as yet undiscerned, then the vaccine is dangerously flawed and should be recalled. Science and medicine should never reach an unassailable verdict; they should always keep pace with empirical evidence as it evolves. My best- DK

[@emetzger]

@@DrDavidLKatz thanks for taking the time to explain this more thoroughly. I'm not an expert so I greatly rely on these videos and others (including reading studies on medRxiv) for information. keep up the good work. and thanks for the reply.

[@DrDavidLKatz]

@@emetzger My pleasure. In case this wasn't clear before, I adamantly favor epidemiology over ideology- including (and perhaps especially) my own ideology! I always do my best to follow evidence where it leads, and will never promise not to change my mind as the evidence changes.

[@tfgglobal]

@@DrDavidLKatz I love your videos and your perspectives. Can you note the fatality rate per million of other vaccines we all get without a thought? Would be great to have this as a reference.

[@DrDavidLKatz]

@@tfgglobal Thank you. A good start on an answer here: www.aafp.org/afp/2017/0615/p786.html