How Skittlecakes Went From Cheater To Esports Pro

[@Kauzeyy]

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[@teolevitan-armstrong6878]

good video until the end because of a few things you said to wrap up. Duplex was the IGL. When Verhulst left ESA was the number one team in NA. After his last day with Esports area they were on top of the NA leaderboard with 37 points. Sentinels (the winner of the split) was in second with 32 points, as well as NRG who was one 29 points at the time who also passed them. Esports area finished third but to say that when Knoqd joined the team got better and had better results is not true. That team has never been the same without Versult and Knoqd is good but it's not the same. They are not even going to lan.

[@Alex-qe4lr]

@@teolevitan-armstrong6878 wrong. doop was the co-IGL with skittles. if you've watched skittles from the beginning (me) youd know that he was always having to co-igl and frag with doop because doop's IGLing wasnt adequate. they already went to a lan together in sweden and won group stages, got 4th overall. please dont comment on things like this acting like you know, when you dont.

[@teolevitan-armstrong6878]

@@Alex-qe4lr oh buddy it's not looking so good for you is it? Did you see lan? First place VERHULST! He said in his interview how he was in first place with doop and Skittle when he left and how both situations they would have won. He joined tsm and you can tell who needed who big guy.

[@adventureplayer3320]

What about fruffmeister?

[@adventureplayer3320]

@fruffmeister has way intresting story

[@infinitezest3912]

Had no idea about the context of this entire debacle. Just thought Skittles was a teamer but this clarifies a lot of things. Seems like a typical talented kid stuck in a shitty environment who's now doing big things after he left that environment. Great video, thanks for sharing!

[@beerdo]

just like Envoy, or Dashy, and the green wall loves both of them 😂

[@mammaopal3245]

Giving this a couple hours before it gets out on r/CompetitiveApex😂

[@normalguycap]

They will probably just ban it. They don't like admissions nor talks about cheaters and cheating on any apex subreddit.

[@soyboi8440]

My face when the comp community talks about a video about a comp player 😨

[@tee-boppin_em8147]

This came out before he got on optic he was a Xbox teamer 😂😂🤣

[@SimplyAshton]

Great video! Really threw me back to the drama of Early Apex on Xbox! As someone who played through these seasons and finished #21 Pred in season 5, I remember Playing with Slayers, who now plays for the EU Pro team E6, on his grind for #1 Pred on the worlds edge split. He was constantly the victim of direct DDosing from the #2 Pred who was desperate to do anything to get #1, and resorted to Ddosing Slayers and his friends so that they couldn't use the internet in their houses. Luckily I was never targeted, but I witnessed it first hand and the ones doing it even admitted to it over xbox messages. It goes to show the lengths people would go to back then to be #1 Pred on Xbox. The best part? Slayers Still got #1 that season. :)

[@TheGoldenApex]

Yooooooooooo!!! It’s Ashton!!!

[@GotDamBoi]

the fact that he went from console cheater/teamer to MNK PC god in such a short time is not talked about enough. It's actually insane

[@LuiLanghamma]

Actually he is not THAT good. Just look at his stream

[@BruceWayne-wh4of]

@@LuiLanghamma Definitely better than the clips on your channel, lil bro 💀💀

[@Sparkyyy.380]

@@LuiLanghamma 100x better than you’ll ever be lol

[@Sparkyyy.380]

skittlecakes switched to mnk when he started PC?

[@redpz]

@@Sparkyyy.380 yeah you can see it in the clips

[@pronto5824]

This video summarises the story really well and kept me engaged throughout the whole video

[@Grrt]

Nice Kauzey keep it up bro

[@btmxxflame6747]

Sup grrt

[@TheGoldenApex]

Yoooooooo it’s Garret!!! Kauzey ur video got the Garret stamp of approval!!!🔥🔥🔥❤️❤️❤️

[@tyeboyce]

really good video with lots of nuance, was like a trip down memory land . keep smashing it mate.

[@dustinhipsher6341]

This commentary lol so serious but then you hear “ skittle cakes “ haha

[@Zeemac]

I got into a lobby with Xynoa, he killed me and I spectated him (my first ever encounter with a pred player--in a plat lobby surprise surprise--ever), it was just shameless how he was literally teaming with 4 other squads until the last circle

[@Sora-o]

They were teaming to counter the other teaming teams lmao.

[@charlesmaine5307]

@@Sora-o lol, still teaming 🤦🏼‍♂️

[@adventureplayer3320]

What about @Fruffmeister

[@eigengeistt]

Always a bless seeing you release content. Ty GGz

[@AllYallBums]

This is you we wait dont matter how long it takes him he always drops bangers

[@ashleysalgado8136]

Lmao what? Fruff was a big part of why Xynoa and skittles even got to number 1

[@jheymann69]

I never knew this story, great job man, very good job presenting the information. Keep it up!

[@senseirbw2395]

The first KZbinr to get the story right. Thank you. P.S. they were stream sniping skittles while teaming

[@bigbob69]

Drip, facilitator, mileyosiris and tollis and a couple other dudes. Bunch of clowns

[@senseirbw2395]

@@bigbob69 I remember facil and drip but I don’t remember tollis and Miley teaming against skittles. Speaking from knowing skittles at the time

[@mrvilla310]

Do hiswattson and Keon farming golds and plats on sao paulo off stream to get #1 pred next.

[@akazova]

i still manage to find Need A Soda in my ranked games and it pisses me off how he’s still not banned.

[@theiyrosthenes1639]

16:24 I couldn’t hear him saying anything particular. What did he say?

[@vXmp11re]

Damn bro post in the first time in forever

[@kevin97818]

Bro skittle and xynoa rolled my ish on Xbox ranked kings canyon one time it was terrifying. They were definitely different despite the controversy

[@STO_1]

This has been out forever, and I was apart of it. Yeah I'll admit it but it wasn't how you think, it was like the last day of the split and the number 2, and 5 pred we're teaming so they could pass Xynoa , then they told them they would team right back, before long there were 12-15 people wearing all green skins and 12-15 wearing purple, I hate when this story gets out and people are never aware of the actual context tho it's still wrong it wasn't them who started it, it was actually a guy who went my the name Miley0sirus

[@kevinr341]

wait what miley do

[@STO_1]

@@kevinr341 he was the number 2 pred at the time and was teaming in order to pass Xynoa for number one

[@AngrySecs]

Context doesn't matter when it comes to cheating. You're still cheating. No justification

[@STO_1]

@@AngrySecs you're right but this story would have sounded alot worse if he was using walls and aim hacks plus teaming, yeah teaming is cheating, and cheating is wrong we get that, but doesn't mean there isnt a degree to it, this happened on the last day of the split and Skittles wasn't involved any other time, it's not like he did this all season

[@STO_1]

@@Mvlvch the ddossing came from one guy mainly that everyone knew, his name was HawaiianXpunches , basically he forced the top players to play with him or he would just doss them and he also dossed players who killed him in game depending on if he was in a bad mood or not, he had my Xbox account wrongfully banned for two weeks due to abandoning penalty, but yeah Xynoa wasn't dossing and neither was Skittles, but I can't say 100% if they didn't tell this guy to doss certain players because that's probably something very sensitive. But HawaiianXpunches did doss and was known for it, and even managed to bug my router for 2 hours once , so I had no internet for that long.

[@brandonheim]

Whenever I saw Skittles clips I always thought "why do his clips look like hes playing with so much anger... like hes trying to prove hes the best" .... Now I understand that that is exactly what it was

[@vicous656]

He’s goated for that tbh bro

[@Sora-o]

Finally a video that got the story right! Huge props great video.

[@a1ds...]

Best at apex documentaries love the quality keep it up kauzey

[@ryanscott2745]

You have really great videos man. Very informational. Please turn the audio up though because your voice is real quiet and then the ads will be crazy loud lol. Scared me.

[@noblewolf1526]

This video was so well put together. I feel Skittlecakes' redemption at the end.

[@tragikk03]

bro I think you have your audio set too low. It's fine, but it's much quieter than average yt video audio on my end.. Idk about recording/editing audio, but it sounds like the lows are overpowering the mids/highs to the extent that I had to manually turn down my subwoofer Dope video, though. Seems very well put together

[@actualjessie9698]

I honestly dont think its stupid that they teamed to combat people 9 manning.. like come on he deserved rank 1 and 2 so yeah of course.

[@vortex_talon]

back in my day there was no such thing as ranked we had "Elite queue"

[@ngocosmic4400]

Back in my day we had solos.

[@OhhhPez]

Even thought I love OpTic, it’s funny how they have always recruited bad people across all of eSports, Forsaken the Indian CS cheater, Marved from CS who matchfixed, Envoy who was a Ximmer during COD WW2 days… I honestly forgot SkittleCakes was one of those 3 from back then.

[@thedreadedshad6413]

Could say that about faze too

[@OhhhPez]

@@thedreadedshad6413 I mean mostly everyone knows that FaZe has been “dirty” ever since 2015/16 with the whole owning CSGOWild but pretending they don’t situation.

[@Alex-qe4lr]

awful comparisons. youre comparing teaming to fight back against teamers to someone who has actively using programs on their computer at a LAN. lmfao

[@actualape7932]

skittlecakes was always the igl i dont know why you said verhulst was

[@shadowstokes]

Brah….your voice is freaking legit. It reminds me of those, like, criminal cases narrator guys. Seriously I feel like you would be really good at scary stories or documentaries lol

[@Pexodus11]

Idk what he said that you didn't want to put in the video but I don't get how either of those clips were racist at all. It's like the daltoosh joke debacle, I just don't see it

[@user-vf4oh1pd9t]

u have to remember that the people freaking out about this stuff are often trans communist nutcases. It's really anarchist furries tweeting at companies on some federal shit trying to get people banned for saying stuff that would have been considered tame in an MW2 or Gears lobby

[@ceskyy_5645]

Maybe because you are racist too and those are normal comms to you. Smh

[@farchild]

So you are really sitting here like yeah, I don't see anything wrong with calling somebody a slave.

[@user-vf4oh1pd9t]

@@farchild grow up lol u have child in your name for a reason. if u can't take trash talk maybe u shouldn't be gaming

[@user-vf4oh1pd9t]

@@ceskyy_5645 even if he was; who cares? His political opinions or choice of words are irrelevant to skill as a player

[@chefr6210]

Just want to say that verhulst was never the IGL of ESA, not sure where you got that from, it’s always been either skittles or doop

[@dr_astrooo2498]

A lot of the information is wrong. For instance. In the console war, it's true they only teamed on the last day of the ranked split so that they wouldn't lose their spot. They were not griefing TSM, if you ever watched Xynoa or Skittles stream they would always drop Frag East that's why they dropped there. They were most comfortable fighting there. Verhulst is a fragger not an igl. Lol. Also, you never mention Skittles got #1 pred on PC. I feel like you should have stated that.

[@Pasttwelveproductions]

Oh whatever. It's still cheating and taking advantage of the system, and because the competition is doing better by cheating doesn't justify you doing it.

[@thelounge9845]

I'm actually a close personal friend with William. I built his PC, and even during that process, let him stream and play using my computer while his was in the process of being built. First of all, William is a great guy, he doesn't have a single grain of malice in his heart. Secondly, of all the times I've seen him play(personally), never once did I ever see him cheat. Sure, he teamed to get back at Need a soda from stream sniping him and Xynoa_, but that was the largest extent of this "cheating"

[@MrRednosemak]

Imagine cheating being like a full-on fucking drug. I love Apex and have been playing since season 3 it's pretty much the only game I play consistently for 3 years now. But these kind of backstories are the ones that make me cringe like kind of embarrassed. Such a great game with a mutant ,toxic ass community

[@collwyr]

Im curious how far ahead was Xynoa & Skittle in S4 pre cheat war? you mentioned Need a Soda's little group does all the dirtiest shit ever to get top 1/2/3, but were apparently pretty far behind Skittle & Xynoa, additionally you mentioned that the play times for both Skittle and Xynoa were odd also, I know you speculated in this video that Need a Soda's team started cheating first, but it kinda seems like Skittle & Xynoa were cheating first or just cheating better if we assume Need a Soda and his crew were cheating before they decided to cheat via teaming.

[@b0bbyz]

I forgot about them landing on tsm lol that was good times back in the day. Fun drama in competitive apex

[@NqniKun2001]

Bro didn't talk about the biggest cheat available AIM ASSIST

[@HIELO..]

Git gud

[@LemmyCook]

"I made you"

[@TrillLifestyle]

Yeah there was so many different communities back at the higher end levels of apex early days. Knoqd was known as one of the best to touch an Xbox controller and one of the most dangerous wraith players so it was weird to see the OG grinding community come together with the OG exploit community

[@dat_nigga_roger]

I don’t even watch or play apex but this story telling was awesome more videos like this

[@theclitcollector]

fr dat_nigga_roger

[@gabrielg4627]

Dashboarding created so many big ego console players. Lol

[@KingMetta]

FYI, there was another method he was using starting in season 11 that was guaranteed max RP every game without fail. Not a fan of skittle cakes but most of his RP came from this method and it was essentially a private match where he was just handed RP. Games were about 5 minutes long, max KP every game.

[@middle-agedMan]

Old man here. Came across this randomly. No idea who any of these kids are but I thank you for opening my eyes to a different community

[@zt7928]

I constantly would run to him in early days of ranked, consistantly 6 man teams that would pretend to fight and bait teams to the bunker... Ruined the competetive aspect of the game and mainly blame EA for not actually doing anything even while mass reported. The fact he is allowed to compete in ALGS is a shame

[@Ridlay_]

14:08 Here you can see the defense is that “top teams will team against cheaters” but I think they miss the point there. There’s a difference between gaming the system and altering the game for singular wins. Yeah gaming the system is scummy, but at least you’re still in the confines of the game. Cheaters have an impossible advantage, so it’s pretty realistic to get completely random people (not planned people, which is another point) to gang up on them. In fact, since they aren’t on the same plane of egregiousness, a more realistic comparison is hacking to fight hackers, not teaming to fight hackers. All that to say, yeah what a shaky defense.

[@skeveharvey]

Dashboarders prevented KP for the one who knocked them if they left before their team was wiped. Soda was the fastest dasher in the West 🙄💀😩

[@skeveharvey]

**rumor was DRIP CAPALOT had rotations on the account 24/7 at one point

[@shaeVettori]

The little inconsistencies with the audio if your voice (random hard drops in volume), quality of alot of the in game footage, makes it annoyingly hard to watch 😬😬

[@cruzadeus6342]

So he cheats on console and switches to pc to exploit the hundreds of different ways you can cheat on a different platform….. and makes lots of money doing it In the current state of apex I promise you he was still cheating just doing it like the rest lol

[@Pasttwelveproductions]

Also it's definitely more of a problem on pc to cheat. Yeah you may have strike packs but nothing like the hacks you can get on pc

[@Skankhunt1]

Means he's still cheating

[@dg1431]

Can someone clarify how Xynoa is racist. The one clip of him laughing I couldn't hear what's even being said.

[@str1kerxx]

Have to admit i used the glitch too in a few games but stopped right after and kicked all dashboardes out of my fl.. i am not willing to cheat myself and even stopped ranking this season in order to keep my honor for myself. If you still see an incredible bad S3 Pred, you should know whats going on.

[@tdestroyer4780]

Console ranked in general has been tainted because of cheaters. Even way back in the Halo 2 ranked days you got a bunch of cheaters the higher you ranked up. It's worse now because so many people wanna be the next big streamer and will do anything to achieve that goal.

[@109_hassy]

Bro your voice is so nice to just listen to with its calm and soothing feeling

[@omegasmr3056]

Man has ASMR type voice

[@mikepatrona472]

He’s not gonna fuk you bro

[@109_hassy]

@@mikepatrona472 Thats disappointing

[@basuyarbrough5365]

@8:31 cheating is a drug from the console community…..have u heard about Pc???😂

[@jordanclavette3466]

FREE xynoa he’s an amazing person and is an absolute beast and deserves in a professional org, I know skittlecakes would agree as xynoa carried many games even boosted skittlecakes into 1v2ing reps and Hal when they landed on them the first algs they got in!

[@tanningbed]

nice bait bro

[@julianpearce6869]

when I got into apex, originally on Xbox one season 2 and 3 , I always would do pretty well in fights with much higher level players even though i hadnt played any video games at all on any platform for at least 5 years. this video now is showing me why haha

[@Sh4tterdL0g1c]

The amount of energy people wasted desperately trying to completely sandbag someone’s life over and over again for teaming in Xbox ranked is really pathetic. I understand that teaming is cheating but I don’t consider it on the same plane as hacking. Plus he was already punished for it when he got banned on Xbox. Basically what I’m trying to say is that he made a mistake but every single person on this earth makes mistakes and he was punished for it. Xynoa is obviously different because he’s a genuine piece of shit person. But idk i just think that it’s stupid people just kept going after him afterwards. The only thing he should’ve done was probably not publicly associate himself with xynoa after all that shit he did. But I am glad he made because he truly is an amazing player, he just made a bad judgement call agreeing to cheat with his “friend” and I don’t think he would’ve if it wasn’t for xynoa

[@Pasttwelveproductions]

Lol it's definitely fair to land anywhere on the map lol. Regardless where another team lands

[@beaconboy224]

Why are you whispering

[@Wonderwhoopin]

Whoa guy, everyone was not using the glitches, a majority didn’t even use one

[@王彥鈞-q5w]

22：52 Evan was the original igl really? Wasn’t he clearly the main fragger?

[@freebandz4332]

Evan was never IGL

[@TheGoldenApex]

Another banger as usual🔥🔥🔥 Anazing video, amazing editing, amazing story telling! I’m so happy I subbed!❤️❤️❤️🔥🔥🔥🐐🐐🐐

[@ownedbysaiko235]

fun fact need a soda still plays the game and has held nr 1 pred on xbox

[@oldmangaming5051]

Why are we romanticizing cheaters? Why are we assuming when he switched to PC he 100% stopped cheating? You keep saying he "rise above the haters" but the dude was cheating possibly still was and had no issues playing with a known racist piece of shit. Please stop acting like people did not have a right to call him out for his shit. He didn't rise above anything basically EA and respawn ignored what was happening and let him play anyway. Could he have stopped playing and walked away in shame? yes but him not doing that does not mean he's a good person or "rised above" anything. He deserved a lifetime ban on the game period.

[@STO_1]

Kauzy if there is a way I can Dm you and tell you the true story and the whole story, I'm not siding with the fact that this way okay at all because it wasn't but I know the story because I was apart of it

[@Itsridwaaan]

Can you tell us by making a comment on it please so we know the exact thing

[@austyn5455]

Lol wdym apex isn’t fun anymore talk for yourself my guy

[@mufcrulz]

No way this guy called Verhulst the IGL of ESA

[@iFoolyn]

I cannot help but laugh being one of those ranked grinders back in the day I was rank 10 season 2 of ranked and was top 50 pretty consistently. That being said Xynoa was really insane at the game great player but was definitely racist. Regarding skitttles i think that he was using a XIM adapter on console but could never really confirm it. The only evidence I really have for that is his unnatural switch from controller to mnk. Its one thing to switch but to be that good? Kinda sus to me. Lastly Need A Soda. Anyone who knows Soda personally is laughing their ass off right now. Soda is probably the most notorious ranked grinder on xbox back in the day and it isnt even close.

[@iFoolyn]

Also, I would like to add that nearly EVERYONE who was in the top 50 was dashboarding with the notiable exception of Xynoa and Skittles. They were actually known for not dashing. This is an alt so I'm comfortable enough to say that I too was a dashboarder and it was a real problem. I mean so bad that I literally had over 100,000 RP at one point and I wasn't even in the top 10.

[@GeorgeFloydsNeck]

you’re terrible shut up

[@PledgeBass]

I was playing apex 8+ hours a day at this time. I didn't normally play ranked (usually solod pubs), but most of my friends were pred ranked grinders and would talk to me about this stuff. Need a Soda has always been hated by pretty much everyone, and most people considered him pretty good. But everyone had a lot of respect for skittles and xynoa's skill. I would constantly get told about how they would just walk over people, and how they were just leagues and leagues beyond anyone elses skill level in the game. I would play ranked every now and then with my friends just to be able to chat with them and relax a bit. I ended up actually being in the game of the clip that went viral where skittles was in artillery teaming and I died to them. Ranked back then (at least on console) was a lot more like comp is today. It was very end-game focused all the time - People were a lot smarter about what fights they would take, and overall the skill level was a lot higher. I think skittles took a lot of that experience into comp and that's why he is one of the best players in the world right now.

[@caelanholder3765]

My favorite thing about skittle is his deadpan callouts 😂 Like he’s so smart with plays but sound like he’s fucking sleeping whenever I watch him

[@3012244]

Love this type of videos. New subscriber

[@DaSlowMotionPimpSlap]

really good vid man i enjoyed my watch keep working on your craft and chasing your dream!

[@Nuzico]

i wouldnt blame everything on the xynoa guy, that skittlecakes dude is still also at fault, unluckily cheating will always be part of humanity because some losers cant deal with being worse than others

[@ReeceMcQuoid]

season 1/2 ranked were a joke, ive never understood using glitches/exploits to hit a rank, whats the point if you know you cheated, was so happy when they took people rewards who cheated

[@CheatActivated]

Nah, screw skittlefake.. shouldn’t be a pro after teaming like a pos in ranked ruining the apex community early on..

[@L0gravity]

Yeah I just remember getting in their game one time during season 4 and holy shit I never saw a caustic play like him and then xynoa clutched up running 2 r99’s against the last 2 squads as a solo and I was amazing until a few weeks go by and everyone’s talking about how they cheated but there was no denying how skilled those guys were

[@dataisdead2322]

I played w xinoa on Xbox he has my friend on season 0 apex and tbh it was just very cranked Strikepack guys ..

[@iSpyDroid]

This is "Its Just A Game Bro" Comment :(

[@simonmacek9009]

Some Gaming firms really hate their players. First sign of cheating is a ban. second time is a perma ban.

[@nnoir]

Its kinda funny how in the early days, dashboarding on Xbox would still work for Apex. Like people havent been dashboarding since the OG CoD4 & MW2 on Xbox 360

[@МУЅТ]

Just saying a screenshot of text history isn’t proof, you can save someone’s number as anything you want, so have a friend text you desired text then save their name to be w/e.

[@MCLSD_]

I always thought he legit cheated, but this video showed me a new light on the subject. I don’t really hold it against him for teaming to maintain his rank. It’s wrong of course, and he was punished fairly for it. Love seeing someone turn their life around and reach their goals. #GreenWall baby

[@thedreadedshad6413]

I'm 15 seasons in I didn't know about rp glitch that sucks

[@mr.cleans2619]

Dooplex da biggest bird

[@Pasttwelveproductions]

Solidified as a cheater

[@delusionalmule8759]

they both got started using Cronus Zen, wouldn't doubt that skittles still uses it for macros on mouse & key

[@novapheonixgaming]

I hate skittles I think he should be kicked from algs and has no competitive integrity but dudes not even a Zener and never was he 6/9 manned that’s all

[@delusionalmule8759]

@@novapheonixgaming no he used it in the past playing with that other dude when he was on controller, i checked their vods when the whole 6 man thing happened, both were using zen at that time

[@estufa1046]

@@delusionalmule8759 proof?

[@2robjenkins]

@@delusionalmule8759 no they weren’t, you’re literally making things up.

[@delusionalmule8759]

@@estufa1046 any video of them standing still and looting while their controller ticks by itself, but those videos are like 3 years old at this point so it doesn't really matter, he's on m&k now

[@izodiac8913]

this why APEX is dead so many PRO players switch to VALORANT

[@rickydiez61001]

You shouldve added when people where saying he was wallhacking too and when he had "beef" with Hal , great video tho

[@eliabonfardeci2604]

I think Skittlecakes redeemed himself, the real problem was xynoa and his racist community...I'm just curious now where did he went?

[@blakejohnson3234]

Apex is getting worse and worse. Eventually it will turn into Titanfall. Losing its honest player base that doesn’t cheat and crumble with nothing but cheaters.

[@crazybmxer00]

RIP to cujothagod and soarjonny😢

[@m3tricfpsprivat]

Great video. But seeing young toosh was what really kicked me back to the good ol days of Apex.

[@isaacmoore1616]

I remember watching TSM vs F8 live. Shit was wild lmao

[@Deetray]

gotta respect skittlecake for sure fuck wit the video to my boy keep up the good content