Kawasaki Ninja ZX-10R (2019) Slip-On vs. Full System Debate SOLVED!

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Brock's Performance

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@isaaclarson
@isaaclarson 5 жыл бұрын
I love seeing some actual data being shared, not just some keyboard warriors saying "XYZ" is the best LOL.
@pravesh736
@pravesh736 5 жыл бұрын
Keyboard is better
@ur2slob724
@ur2slob724 4 жыл бұрын
Bro science is where it’s at
@bassinburban8928
@bassinburban8928 4 жыл бұрын
Xbox>ps4. Yes, i took it there.
@davidelizabeth4933
@davidelizabeth4933 5 жыл бұрын
You, sir are abundantly generous in so many ways. Brock's Performance fans for life. 👍
@jerrym5271
@jerrym5271 5 жыл бұрын
Your videos have become addicting to learn from, great presentation everytime
@Amaturehourwithmike
@Amaturehourwithmike 3 жыл бұрын
This makes me super excited that my ZX14R has a full Brock's exhaust system on it.
@Redrider2k2
@Redrider2k2 5 жыл бұрын
Yourself and Gale Banks are two guys I really respect for giving folks a "peek behind the curtain" so to speak.
@breakwood8531
@breakwood8531 5 жыл бұрын
You’re the best, I appreciate all the info you give, learn so much from y’a.
@cainjad9434
@cainjad9434 3 жыл бұрын
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@cashali4747
@cashali4747 3 жыл бұрын
@Cain Jad Instablaster ;)
@shaneweightman
@shaneweightman 5 жыл бұрын
I had a Zx10r, 06 model, only bike I ever had that did 106 mph in first gear when it hit the Rev limiter , awesome bike ,, really miss it , had lots of big bikes over the last 20 yrs right up to Hyabusa , blades etc etc but the Kawasaki being best by far ,, cheers Shane uk 🇬🇧
@08halit
@08halit 4 жыл бұрын
im a noob but last summer i was to test bikes,,wanted to buy 1,,so i found 2 bikes,1 was a 04zx10 and the other was a 05 hayabusa,if the zx10 didnt blow the side motor cap i would have bought it,,it broke att 110kmh on the highway and the rear tire got all oiled upp,lucky i didnt fall off,,so i bought the busa,,but the zx10 felt way more powerful then the busa,,dont know if its some probs on the busa but power wise the zx10 felt more powerfull,,even if it was a year older.
@peytonhibdon7659
@peytonhibdon7659 5 жыл бұрын
Good luck getting this project done and the testing in. New pipe looks really dope Brock.
@bbaker5256
@bbaker5256 4 жыл бұрын
ONLY PERSON I actually enjoy listening to and learning from. Very thorough and passionate
@BrockDavidson
@BrockDavidson 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you :)
@tktk-om8cg
@tktk-om8cg 3 жыл бұрын
@@BrockDavidson hey I'm in the market for a new bike and I always run your exhaust on my other bikes, and between new zx10r and zx14r and Gsxr1000 it's not a easy pick so in you opinion which one makes the most power looks like zx14r and zx10r are the highest
@BrockDavidson
@BrockDavidson 3 жыл бұрын
@@tktk-om8cg it would depend on how you are riding and racing, and exactly what year you are looking at. The 2021 zx-10r is highly restricted with no cure at the moment. The 14s are a solid, comfortable older design. The new gixxer is very fast and an excellent choice for racing. And, of course, the new Busa is coming...but it will be highly restricted also for a while...sometimes it takes a year+ to figure them out. Hope this helps.
@stevendumont4156
@stevendumont4156 5 жыл бұрын
Brock, I'm new here but not to your tunes and knowledge. You hooked me up in 2012 with a great canned tuned for my 2012 ZX-14R. That bike had scary acceleration for a big bike and your tune and the bolt-on exhaust I put on it set it over the top really set it apart from the crowd--bike was insanely fast. The review/overview of the ZX-10R and Suzuki's finest was extremely well executed and very well put together. It was by far THE best and most thorough review of your products and services and Japanese products to date. Damn good job brother!
@BrockDavidson
@BrockDavidson 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you - I really appreciate the kind words.
@6.2litersofnoise41
@6.2litersofnoise41 4 ай бұрын
@@BrockDavidsonhey Brock, if I were to get a gen 5 zx10 what all do I need to make 200? I’d prefer to stay bolt on only and have already planned for a full exhaust air box heat wrap intake flapper and pair delete and a good tune
@RickyJr46
@RickyJr46 3 жыл бұрын
Brock, we know you hate second place, and your scientific approach is second to none!
@absolutelynonameslef
@absolutelynonameslef 4 жыл бұрын
How can anyone in their right mind thumbs down Brock's videos?
@YCmanager
@YCmanager 5 жыл бұрын
@Brock - Thank you so much to answer my (and other people's) question and doing it in a way we can all understand it and see the benefit of going the extra mile to make our bikes run the best. I truly appreciate all your hard work. A++++ content
@arkama67
@arkama67 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much Brock, amazing video. As a zx10r owner, my mind is now clearer.
@kingbrando3448
@kingbrando3448 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome video Brock, I believe the gsxr1000 will prevail in a 1/4 mile race. My 18 gsxr1000 made 206HP on MR12 with the exact parts as gixilla great R&D as usual. Both machines are amazing and even better with your PROVEN products!!
@M3Vader
@M3Vader 4 жыл бұрын
You do such a great job explaining things very clearly and easy to understand for beginner mod learners (me). Love your content! Take care
@BrockDavidson
@BrockDavidson 4 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear it!
@atiroocky
@atiroocky 3 жыл бұрын
GSXR motors engineers have done incredible job on low and midrange rpm power with their VVT system. As you said, it’s not usefull on max speed, but on street or track, you can exit curve very quick without downshifting. Great explanations. ps : have you ever thought installing HAVC system to get consistent T°C and Humidity conditions inside your room ? A 1000cc bike sucks 1L/tr/min. So, at 14000tr/mn, it sucks 14m³/min or 840m³/h. That is the air you need to extract from the exhaust. So you need the same to compensate pressure from outside. So, with 38°C and 80%humidity (high enthalpy), you would need a 19kW cooling system to get that air down to 25°C/50%Humidity. Plus, some extra (i think quite a lot, maybe the equivalent of the bike power * 2) kW to cool bike down… It’s just an idea. I very expansive idea, but as you said, Devil is hiding in details!
@BrockDavidson
@BrockDavidson 3 жыл бұрын
The last thing we want to do is alter our dyno numbers even more than an average dyno. We pay attention to details that others do not, so our readings are already a bit higher than most in normal atmospheric conditions and considerably higher if the dyno owner does not maintain the dyno well. We completely evacuate our room 8-10 times per minute and draw from a 10K square ft heated warehouse, so normally aspirated bikes are no problem. Supercharged bikes are the biggest issue as a glowing red exhaust will raise ambient room temperature 30 degrees in just seconds - trying to keep room temp under control for those conditions would be exceptionally cost-prohibitive.
@chriswade3986
@chriswade3986 2 жыл бұрын
Always a pleasure to watch you work sir . I always say I wish I olives down the street from your shop. You would have all of my money.
@kornboy22
@kornboy22 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Brock. I always wondered on the difference between de-cat and full system performance and this explained it for me. Also the performance between the current and previous gen ZX10-R. Thanks again for your amazing work!
@jasongaudreau2075
@jasongaudreau2075 2 жыл бұрын
Brock…plz do an R1M!!! That cp4 motor is amazing. I personally want this 2022 mt-10sp that has the better suspension bits than the r1m (for now), and the same cp4 motor. It’s a dream bike for me.
@richwiskin4860
@richwiskin4860 3 жыл бұрын
My 2018 made 196 FYI stock filter and cat delete plus fueling on the dyno. Air filter would be next stop I think. Mental bike.
@Tracked350Z
@Tracked350Z 5 жыл бұрын
For the ZX10R Brock, for an even better comparison. I highly suggest removing the oem damper and using a gen 4 damper. While your products for lowering the front end are great, there is still another inch to go before the showa fork tapers. That could be the difference between an 8.8 or a 9.0. Just an idea.
@BrockDavidson
@BrockDavidson 5 жыл бұрын
The owner just takes the damper off and drops the forks 3". We won't do that for a bike under our control...but he can do as he likes.
@tunaman44
@tunaman44 3 жыл бұрын
I love my stock titanium headers, they look so good.
@afrobryan
@afrobryan 5 жыл бұрын
It's not a debate, put the full system for better performance. 1+1=2 it's that simple
@michaelperez7472
@michaelperez7472 5 жыл бұрын
really appreciate all your wisdom on these bikes ....
@apexhunter2k
@apexhunter2k 5 жыл бұрын
The new exhaust looks great! Another great video with good info! I'm looking forward to the track results.
@ckryegrass11
@ckryegrass11 5 жыл бұрын
This guy has been legit for years.
@justinsabrowsky823
@justinsabrowsky823 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome stuff Brock! Any idea when the new "Pentacarbon", hopefully that's correct, full system will be available for the '19 ZX-10R?
@BrockDavidson
@BrockDavidson 5 жыл бұрын
@Justin - glad you like. It should be available around the first of the year.
@justinsabrowsky823
@justinsabrowsky823 5 жыл бұрын
@@BrockDavidson Thanks for the quick reply! Best of luck getting out to the track!
@1300GP
@1300GP 5 жыл бұрын
@@BrockDavidson any idea on the price range?
@MrMigo028
@MrMigo028 5 жыл бұрын
Man you are the best, great video with a lot info, and the new exhaust on ZX10R is awesome, you best exhaust by far!!!
@kibosh01
@kibosh01 5 жыл бұрын
We still waiting for that video brock
@rawonboard7831
@rawonboard7831 5 жыл бұрын
Brocks father of all bikes
@christiancanan4057
@christiancanan4057 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome explanation. I am looking forward to get that new exhaust
@scottmoody5685
@scottmoody5685 5 жыл бұрын
Great video Doc Brock, as usual the research that you share (nothing hidden)helps us all.Your products and information speaks for itself. Glad I own yer Alien Head/PC5/and Tuned ECU= :) Thanks Man, Scott in the D....The Brock's formula AH+PC5+TECU=FAST(nothing stupid bout that)!
@lewisdeclouette6342
@lewisdeclouette6342 5 жыл бұрын
It's like a kid in a candy store can't wait mr. Brock
@natalotto2006
@natalotto2006 2 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for my full Penta carbon to arrive for my 2022 !!!! Even more excited after watching this video 🙂
@BrockDavidson
@BrockDavidson 2 жыл бұрын
Good choice! We are finally starting to get caught up on stainless systems - please hold tight...it will be worth the wait.
@natalotto2006
@natalotto2006 2 жыл бұрын
@@BrockDavidson Brody hooked me up real good 👊🏼👊🏼👊🏼
@GIGABACHI
@GIGABACHI 5 жыл бұрын
VV Timing & Lift, greatest thing ever for small cc engines. My first experience was on a 1.8L I-4 in a shitty Corolla, it felt like a 2.4L, at least. Honda lost the opportunity on their new CBR1000RR-R .
@peterago1082
@peterago1082 5 жыл бұрын
Great stuff Brock keep up the good work and development
@redactedrider7606
@redactedrider7606 4 жыл бұрын
I think for a normal everyday rider that's not pushing the bike constantly, and only goes to the track or the twisties every so often, but the bike is more of a daily; a full system isn't worth it. The stock headers are fantastic. If you have the money go for it. If you don't it's not too big of a deal. But for someone who is gonna be pushing that bike. The bike gets to come out to go lay some smack downs on some people, then yeah, that's a massive difference.
@BrockDavidson
@BrockDavidson 4 жыл бұрын
As a performance enthusiast, we will have to agree to disagree on your position, but I respect where you are coming from.
@jryer1
@jryer1 5 жыл бұрын
@Brock - Awesome content as always. ZX-10R is a beast up top, but the GSX-R1000 beats it on torque most of the way. My guess, in road racing the Suzuki will be stronger around the track. For drag racing, I believe it'll come down to whether or not the Kawi's top end can come around the Suzuki's grunt early on.
@FiveStarMr
@FiveStarMr 5 жыл бұрын
Gixxila is stock 🙈 we will see
@bacchusthompson5834
@bacchusthompson5834 5 жыл бұрын
I think WSBK has proved that the TQ of the Suzuki doesn't equal wins or a problem for the ZX10R
@RickyJr46
@RickyJr46 3 жыл бұрын
The astonishing number of dyno pulls some of these motors have endured speaks volumes for Japanese reliability. Keep those boutique brands, give me a motor that will show up to work everyday and ready to get after it! 💚
@BrockDavidson
@BrockDavidson 3 жыл бұрын
My personal 2010 S1000RR has over 3500 dyno pulls and hundreds of drag strip passes. I can put it on the dyno right now and it will make the same HP within 1-2 of it's first passes. Same goes for my 06 ZX-14 and 08 Busa. These engines are truly amazing.
@MatiMorini
@MatiMorini 5 жыл бұрын
WOW i can't wait for part 2!!!!!
@red.riot.2280
@red.riot.2280 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Love how you can make the info easy to understand. New pipe looks great!!
@yamakawirodebike5710
@yamakawirodebike5710 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info and your time! Stock headpipe vs. full system is good to know. Stay safe out there and have fun!
@schnitzel2k3
@schnitzel2k3 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Brock, great breadown of power comparisons. When I get a 5th gen (still loving my 1st gen), then you know which exhaust I'm putting on 🍻
@BrockDavidson
@BrockDavidson 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@schnitzel2k3
@schnitzel2k3 3 жыл бұрын
@@BrockDavidson I had one of the first Alien head exhausts in Canada (about 10-12 years ago) on one of my 1st gens, coupled with Hindle headers. Thing was beast mode.
@dakotawentworth6676
@dakotawentworth6676 5 жыл бұрын
Very happy to see a zx10. Im slowing making my 17 stupid fast lol strap kit is next!
@sidsmith8251
@sidsmith8251 5 жыл бұрын
Man so much information I friggin love it!!!!!
@alphastarcar
@alphastarcar 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Brock, I’m Bob one of your new subscribers and somewhat new to the muscle bike world. I think your channel is great! Thanks for sharing your informational videos. I’m investigating in my bike and trying to get the most out of it without spending a small fortune. I will be having the ecu flashed, installing a Sprint air filter and changing the sprockets to 15/44. Most important to me is the sound profile of the bike. Currently the bike has a Two Brothers slip on and it sounds ok but not the tone that I’m looking for. I have a question regarding tone that I hope you can help with. My question is, is there an exhaust for a 2008 GSXR 600 that will produce a deep tone? I realize that I might be asking for the impossible but can that bike sound deep like an R1 without having a cross plane crank? If I were equating the tone to a muscle car exhaust, it would sound like something with a Flow Master Muffler on it. Again a deep but somewhat hollow / tinty while at idle sound. I appreciate any input that you might share! I suppose the worst case scenario is that I need to purchase an R1 for that deep rumble sound that’s most important to me. Below is a link to a video that has an example of the sound profile that I’m looking for. This example is of a Honda CBX 1050. Thanks again! kzbin.info/www/bejne/opLPZoidi96cn7c
@BrockDavidson
@BrockDavidson 3 жыл бұрын
Hello Bob, glad you are enjoying our channel. We work hard to provide exactly what you are asking for. Unfortunately we no longer offer a system for your bike as we focus primarily on new models. I think your best bet would be to check out Hindle Exhausts. They make a very good system, at a reasonable price and they understand to importance of a good tone. I will warn you that 600's are naturally "peaky" but a robust tone with out the "tininess" found in lower quality or worn out mufflers. Hope this helps
@vasilisgreen
@vasilisgreen 2 жыл бұрын
If I understand correctly, that ZX-10 made 209HP at the wheel with MR12. So, what are the full modifications on the bike besides the full exhaust system and the tune? It can't jump from 160something to 209 with just an exhaust and a tune, 49HP is a huge leap.
@BrockDavidson
@BrockDavidson 2 жыл бұрын
All products are listed in the long description (click show more) - FYI;: a majority of the power gain occurred as a result of lifting OEM noise and emissions restrictions in the ECU,
@vasilisgreen
@vasilisgreen 2 жыл бұрын
@@BrockDavidson all the power mods i could find in the description, correct me if I'm wrong, were the exhaust, air filter, tune and the ceramic bearing. I don't know if sprockets would affect whp. Were there any intake or engine mods done? Like velocity stacks, valve work, cams and or camshafts etc? I need to know so I have a better idea of what is realistic or not, I don't live in the US btw so you can't really help me in person.
@MrGarnettmiller
@MrGarnettmiller 4 жыл бұрын
Now I wanna trade in my 2018 GSXR1000 for the 2020 model. I may just do that.
@64faffi
@64faffi 5 жыл бұрын
Another splendid video - thanks!
@mikkakeddo3817
@mikkakeddo3817 3 жыл бұрын
Love your vidz. The zx10.is my favourite bike
@drewmorg.
@drewmorg. 4 жыл бұрын
Man THANK YOU for explaining this!
@BrockDavidson
@BrockDavidson 4 жыл бұрын
Happy to help!
@josedelsol6113
@josedelsol6113 5 жыл бұрын
Hello Brock did you had to remove the intake flap valve to have more air coming in and that way you can make that power or is not necessary ??
@BrockDavidson
@BrockDavidson 5 жыл бұрын
It's in place and functional for these results.
@jacobhendrickson8935
@jacobhendrickson8935 5 жыл бұрын
Love your vids brock.
@youngprince4110
@youngprince4110 4 жыл бұрын
Gixzilla is really fast!! The rider 60ft is 1.6 and makes low 9s 😨😨 which means that bike acceleration is amazing !
@BrockDavidson
@BrockDavidson 4 жыл бұрын
agreed!
@JB-zx2py
@JB-zx2py 3 жыл бұрын
Love the insight
@richardblaauwgeers4349
@richardblaauwgeers4349 5 жыл бұрын
Crazy power! I love it
@Motoman313
@Motoman313 5 жыл бұрын
Are you going to go into the QS kill times and how much can be saved time wise at the dragstrip
@BrockDavidson
@BrockDavidson 5 жыл бұрын
yes. Worked on that for the last couple of days in fact.
@michaelmatchett7203
@michaelmatchett7203 4 жыл бұрын
Brock Davidson did you include any qs changes in the Brock’s flash?
@Xsheaffer
@Xsheaffer 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent video.
@BrockDavidson
@BrockDavidson 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you like!
@to-yg1tx
@to-yg1tx 5 жыл бұрын
Current gen GSXRs are a bargain for what you get as a platform to build on. That said, next time I'm in the Dayton area I need to swing by and pick up a sprint filter, and maybe chat about squeezing another 1 to 1.5 horsepower out of my super 125 grom race build. :o)
@BrockDavidson
@BrockDavidson 5 жыл бұрын
Every new pony adds up - especially with the Grom.
@to-yg1tx
@to-yg1tx 5 жыл бұрын
@@BrockDavidson It's already a podium bike, but I want it to be a #1 plate bike :o)
@SobatRider
@SobatRider 4 жыл бұрын
I love watching your videos😊👍
@BrockDavidson
@BrockDavidson 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you like them!
@vicfox101
@vicfox101 5 жыл бұрын
still waiting on a review with the series of the tune, exhaust, air filter, and air box mod.
@BrockDavidson
@BrockDavidson 5 жыл бұрын
Please click long description for full bike specifications/set-up.
@johnnyslns9938
@johnnyslns9938 3 ай бұрын
Please tell me which motorcycle will be faster and at the same time more reliable? Kawasaki ZX10R, Honda CBR 1000rr, Suzuki gsx-r1000, BMW s1000rr or Yamaha R1?
@BrockDavidson
@BrockDavidson 3 ай бұрын
"faster"...all out top speed? 60-160? Drag strip? From a reliability stand, all are excellent - so that should not sway your decision, IMHO. It's really a matter of personal preference.
@petermoygannon698
@petermoygannon698 4 жыл бұрын
well naturally you want to cross the line then change to next gear. .not change gear and cross 2 seconds later . even though it's flatt changes still loose something. ..got a 997 out of my full stock hayabusa 02 model. 141 mph.
@BrockDavidson
@BrockDavidson 4 жыл бұрын
correct!
@TruckLifeWDandC
@TruckLifeWDandC 5 жыл бұрын
When is that new Full exhaust system Gonna Be Available?
@BrockDavidson
@BrockDavidson 5 жыл бұрын
Target release date is Jan, 2020.
@GR8WHITEC5
@GR8WHITEC5 4 жыл бұрын
Another Question: My 2017 ZX-10RR has stock headers, cat delete with an intermediate pipe, and the stock exhaust muffler. If I was to invest into the new Penta-carbon Full Exhaust System, what are my realistic gains to be seen? (No "promises") but, realistic gains? Less weight by X pounds, increase in HP by X HP, etc? Be realistic. I am seriously considering putting in an order for the Penta-carbon. I'd just like to know "realistic" gains over my current set-up. Thanks Brock!!
@BrockDavidson
@BrockDavidson 4 жыл бұрын
I can't answer the power question other than replacing the muffler is typically not where power is gained. That said, we notice a sizable gain over stock in most sli=on applications, especially combined with a derestriction flash and sprint filter. +5-7 RWHP are typical. I can say your bike will look and sound MUCH better :)
@mateeryalironperformance2395
@mateeryalironperformance2395 5 жыл бұрын
Perfect job👍🏻
@TL1000S97
@TL1000S97 5 жыл бұрын
Love these "techno" videos :)
@timjamesvella
@timjamesvella 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome vid!!!
@2-TwistedRacing
@2-TwistedRacing 4 жыл бұрын
Any testing with sunoco evo 10 or ex 02 fuels? I always see mr12 but wonder about sunoco fuels. I've used sunoco 260 gt plus and ran my best times with it. I ask because it is at all of our local fuel stations. Easy to get.
@ruimteschipYT
@ruimteschipYT 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome video
@indianlarry12345
@indianlarry12345 3 жыл бұрын
Hey brock, few years later, you have some experience with these bikes , is the stock CCT a lasting item when making big power, or have you heard many people changing to the manual tensioner ?
@BrockDavidson
@BrockDavidson 3 жыл бұрын
Stock is far superior IMO. Manual tensioners are close to impossible to correctly adjust and require constant up keep to stay in adjustment... something the OEM tensioners cured years ago.
@indianlarry12345
@indianlarry12345 3 жыл бұрын
@@BrockDavidson awesome ! Thank you. I appreciate the response. You have the best channel on KZbin, your knowledge, and the fact you share it is so amazing. I want to take a holiday just to bring my bike to you ( dreams)
@sorendk1
@sorendk1 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, I got a little confused and had to watch part of it twice.. You were just about to explain the difference between slip-on and a full system exhaust, but then you launch into a 1 min ramble about fuel and then forget to mention if the cat-delete is with stock silencer or if not, what slip-on silencer is used when dynoing.?!? Is the low/midrange-gap the same with cat-delete and sports-silencer or what? and isnt it possible to flatten out that dip in the ECU.? I appreciate the effort you made to make this video, its just that is isnt as "solved" as I would have hoped ;o)
@BrockDavidson
@BrockDavidson 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, adult ADHD is tough to control sometimes - sorry about that. The information you need is in the long description. If you mean the dip at the beginning - no need as it doesn't exist in the real world. If you are in 5th gear and whack the bike wide open at 2500 rpms, it will either leave the alpha n mapping and change to speed density, of the bike will die (if set up in a true 1-1 throttle config) either way, what the chart shows and what actually happen are not the same at low revs on the dyno.
@sorendk1
@sorendk1 4 жыл бұрын
@@BrockDavidson Aah okay, sorry I should have read the full description before commenting :) And the ramble-part, I do that too sometimes haha, wasnt ment in a negative way. I´ll just keep my slip-on and not worry about dips then - Haven't really felt any lack of grunt in low rpm anyway ;)
@GR8WHITEC5
@GR8WHITEC5 4 жыл бұрын
Looking at the Dyno comparisons, what is an ideal AFR to achieve, 12.8 or 13.2? Or does it all depend across the spectrum? And, for most ZX10Rs (RRs), is there an average cut-off in power, such as power begins to drop at 13,200 RPMs?
@BrockDavidson
@BrockDavidson 4 жыл бұрын
That's a loaded question as the best AFR for the dyno (static application) is typically not the best for the track(dynamic application). While the power drops off on the dyno (static), it doesn't when the ram air is functioning (dynamic). This goes into more detail: bit.ly/2EJ1zAV
@GR8WHITEC5
@GR8WHITEC5 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Brock!!
@GR8WHITEC5
@GR8WHITEC5 3 жыл бұрын
@@BrockDavidson Thanks again Brock!!
@angelocardoc
@angelocardoc 5 жыл бұрын
First came was Gixilla Now there's Ninjilla
@Turbo329
@Turbo329 5 жыл бұрын
So basically -- GixZilla wins on track... ZX10R wins on the strip and highway. I love this new content from you Brock. Please keep it up!
@bacchusthompson5834
@bacchusthompson5834 5 жыл бұрын
I guess if Suzuki decided to return to WSBK we would get an answer to that... I don't think they would fair to well, just my opinion
@silverviper2184
@silverviper2184 4 жыл бұрын
Depends on the racetrack. More torque does not make it easier to go fast around a racetrack.
@Turbo329
@Turbo329 4 жыл бұрын
@@silverviper2184 I guess you're right to some degree. Tracks like Daytona and Brainerd would favor peak horsepower. Technical stuff would favor torque but if the bike is too torquey it could be a handful to control on the corner exits. Back in the carburetor days, the 39mm Flatslides would make more torque than the 41mm versions, but racers would prefer the 41mm even on the technical tracks because they could get to full throttle with less concentration.
@Klubi94
@Klubi94 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Brock, did you change the ignition timing in this zx10 with full system ? Or is it stock like 32degrees?
@BrockDavidson
@BrockDavidson 3 жыл бұрын
stock.
@shawnkurtisTV
@shawnkurtisTV 2 жыл бұрын
Question: I’m installing a M4 GP19 slip-on onto my 2021 ZX-6r and I’ll be eliminating the cat-converter along with adding the servo buddy. With that being said, is a flash needed? Does it ruin the bike in any way if I go without doing this? Thanks!
@BrockDavidson
@BrockDavidson 2 жыл бұрын
From a top speed,roll on perspective, the zx-10r is tough to beat. The new BMW s1000rr would be my choice for fastest normally aspirated 1000. No on the gsxt1k making 200 on pump. It's more suited for road racing, partial throttle operation. Hope this helps.
@shawnkurtisTV
@shawnkurtisTV 2 жыл бұрын
@@BrockDavidson my apologies, allow me to correct myself. I didn’t mean to say cat-converter. I meant pre-muffler. I think there’s a bit of confusion. I was simply asking if I replaced the exhaust and pre-muffler with a slip-on Will it do any damage to my motorcycle? Am I absolutely needing a flash if this is done?
@pags1981
@pags1981 5 жыл бұрын
Great work, top engineering 👌😋
@rico2505
@rico2505 5 жыл бұрын
Bet your happy that @650 finally listen to you and stretch his H2
@BrockDavidson
@BrockDavidson 5 жыл бұрын
Lol, long overdue IMO. It's about the only way to actually use the H2's power.
@DanielJ12c4u
@DanielJ12c4u Жыл бұрын
Brock Rocks
@oniquejohn2375
@oniquejohn2375 3 жыл бұрын
Does the Brock’s full exhaust give more top end power or mid range or both?
@BrockDavidson
@BrockDavidson 3 жыл бұрын
We shoot for more mid range and top end power and compliment low end performance with precice gearing changes.
@rgthomson100
@rgthomson100 4 жыл бұрын
I reckon you could get a bandit to beat Gixzilla and Ninjizzer
@javierjavier116
@javierjavier116 5 жыл бұрын
Wow what a master
@rickshawphilippines
@rickshawphilippines 4 жыл бұрын
GREAT STUFF!!!
@98MAzdaMilleniaS
@98MAzdaMilleniaS 3 жыл бұрын
Doesn’t the sae correction factor on dyno jet automatically correct for weather, barometric pressure, etc ? Are you using STD figures ?
@BrockDavidson
@BrockDavidson 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, the problem is wrapping your mind around what "corrected" means. It's just math, and math is never wrong...but the corrected results are just numbers. In the real world, actual performance is king. ET/MPH/Top Speed/ Lap Time etc... This might help/ kzbin.info/www/bejne/hJyxl6CNaZmtq6M
@98MAzdaMilleniaS
@98MAzdaMilleniaS 3 жыл бұрын
@@BrockDavidson so you don’t record your 1/4 mile DA corrected times ? I flex on hoes and let them know what my whip runs. I make bitches wet when i tell them how high my da was during runs.
@BrockDavidson
@BrockDavidson 3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@de-emperor9053
@de-emperor9053 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Brock , please I own a 2014 YZF R1 with an after market slip pipes yoshimura ,my question is ,is it advisable to remove the cat or just leave it ?
@BrockDavidson
@BrockDavidson 5 жыл бұрын
The Yamaha's have great OEM head pipes also - but the result is the same. If you want maximum performance in all area's of the curve, A properly designed full system is the key.
@piecrustyumyum
@piecrustyumyum 3 жыл бұрын
I have a question, on an 06 ZX6R, I am needing to install an o2 sensor for my RapidBIke Active Tuning Module. I have a full exhaust, where is the best place to put the o2 sensor on the bike? I marked about an inch of 2 after the 2 pipes merge on the 1(4-2-1), but I noticed on the exhausts in the video it is in the middle of the 2, from what I can see only mostly getting readings from headers 3&4.
@BrockDavidson
@BrockDavidson 3 жыл бұрын
In the elbow pipe, low...just after the secondary collecter. From as close to on top as will fit to keep moisture away.
@piecrustyumyum
@piecrustyumyum 3 жыл бұрын
@@BrockDavidson Thank you!
@chriswade3986
@chriswade3986 2 жыл бұрын
Hey I have a 21 zx10r. I bought your clutch mod and springs kit . I’m not just drag racing. I want to use my QS I street ride/race and I like to hit twisties. Should I not install the mod and springs ?
@BrockDavidson
@BrockDavidson 2 жыл бұрын
It's up to you. Installing the mod disabled the slipper, some guys don't mind this on track days, some guys want the slipper. The good news is that it's easy to swap.
@chriswade3986
@chriswade3986 2 жыл бұрын
@@BrockDavidson I have a full bolt ons with a tune . Swb . Thank you
@PainBringerZ
@PainBringerZ 4 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to have two ECUs for the ZX-10R ? So I can leave one at Stock Settings and one flashed ?
@BrockDavidson
@BrockDavidson 4 жыл бұрын
Yes. Our customers do this frequently. Is easy on the US models, euro models with the immobilizer key are tricky, but we can do them also.
@gyzfr6
@gyzfr6 5 жыл бұрын
Something I don't get, why the CPU wouldn't compensate automatically for baro pressure change on a low pressure day ? bike cpu's don't have a sensor for inlet pressure ?
@BrockDavidson
@BrockDavidson 5 жыл бұрын
They have map sensors. But, unlike cars the only active tuning is related to emissions and noise control at cruising speeds.
@6025094
@6025094 5 жыл бұрын
Please take both bikes or the testing will be worthless. Mph same day would be good comparison.
@Rockinsoul1214
@Rockinsoul1214 4 жыл бұрын
Hello Brock, I have a question for you. Which engine do ya think is bulletproof? GsxR or ZX10?
@BrockDavidson
@BrockDavidson 4 жыл бұрын
We have a long history with the GSX-R engines dating back to 2001...you have to TRY to break them and they will fight you all the way. One of the toughest engines ever, IMHO. We have been working with the 10's since 2011 and have never broken one, they seem to be tough as nails also. Can tell you about previous 10's.
@Rockinsoul1214
@Rockinsoul1214 4 жыл бұрын
@@BrockDavidson Thank you for the reply and look forward for good videos.
@Rockinsoul1214
@Rockinsoul1214 4 жыл бұрын
What about CBR1ks?
@BrockDavidson
@BrockDavidson 4 жыл бұрын
@@Rockinsoul1214 Unbelievably tough engines....but the transmissions have given us problems in the past.
@ErnestoBoots
@ErnestoBoots 4 жыл бұрын
@@BrockDavidson How about the newer R1? Awesome video...love you're work!
@bigdawgracing7858
@bigdawgracing7858 5 жыл бұрын
125lbs 😭😭😭😭 damn toddler weight lol
@TheJonazas
@TheJonazas 4 жыл бұрын
i weigh 130, it sucks to be so skinny, but atleast it helps when i ride my bike ;)
@bigdawgracing7858
@bigdawgracing7858 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheJonazas hell yeah lol shit I'm 290 💀 I'll rather be skinny lol
@MADLITS1K
@MADLITS1K 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheJonazas I’m 140 full clothed and soaking wet.. being thin really give you a different experience on these bikes haha
@disturbedgsxr
@disturbedgsxr 5 жыл бұрын
Oh man this is going to get dirty!!!
@kibosh01
@kibosh01 5 жыл бұрын
Brock What about the bracket for the steeringdemper? Do you sell that?, what does it look like?
@BrockDavidson
@BrockDavidson 5 жыл бұрын
brocksperformance.com/steering-damper-riser-kit-zx-10r-16-19/
@kibosh01
@kibosh01 5 жыл бұрын
Brock Davidson Thx
@Popsm0ke
@Popsm0ke 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Mr Davidson, I have a 2006 zx14 and I bought one of your systems back in 06 not long after I bought my bike new. I actually switched over to e85 by switching all my numbers in my fuel map using my laptop. It made over 191hp and ran really good but e85 got difficult to find near me and my injectors were at 97% duty cycle so I switched back to running 87 octane and I bought an alien head for a good deal on a zx14 forum. Anyhow my computer crashed that had all my fuel maps and my pc3 is loaded with a map that isn't right due to me changing my individual numbers by anywhere from 30 to 40 points. The guy that owned the dyno let me play around for the better part of the day to get my airfuel right and getting the horsepower up. That said I just have no idea which numbers i manipulated from the 30 or the 40. Is there anyway you could send me a fuel map for the alienhead? Oh yeah I can't go back to the guy with the dyno as he passed away a couple few years ago with kidney failure. I'm sure he would have had the maps stored in his dyno computer. Anyhow I can send you pics of my exhaust either the alien head or the carbonfiber canister to prove I have what I say I have and not trying to get something for nothing. It's been so long and I can't find the cd that had the maps on them that came with the exhaust I bought new from you. Thanks Mark
@BrockDavidson
@BrockDavidson 2 жыл бұрын
Mark, No problem! Just go here and request a map: blog.brocksperformance.com/map-support-purchased-used/ our Map Support Team will ask you for any info. they need to verify your purchase. If you want to send some pipe-side images to MapSupport@BrocksPerformance.com , that will speed things up.
@Popsm0ke
@Popsm0ke 2 жыл бұрын
@@BrockDavidson ..... thank you ...also i was wondering if the ecu was ever hacked to unlock big gains ? At one point there was only a few things that cold be done. I'm just wondering how I can get my bike to compete with these doggone litre bikes nowadays . One more thing do the gen 1. Zx14 respond well to mild headwork....... thanks for the reply
@BrockDavidson
@BrockDavidson 2 жыл бұрын
@POPSMOKE, since the 06's were euro 3, there really weren't many ECU restrictions that removing the secondary throttle plates didn't cure. In fact, we went VERY quick and fast with the stock ECU and some bolt-on tricks. Full stories here: blog.brocksperformance.com/kawasaki-zx-14-06-11/
@Popsm0ke
@Popsm0ke 2 жыл бұрын
@@BrockDavidson .... Thanks you very much !!!!! It speaks volumes about your character and humility to take your time to respond to someone you don't know on KZbin
@MrDwight29
@MrDwight29 5 жыл бұрын
Do y'all have a full exhaust system on the website for 2018 Zx10 or it's just slap on?
@BrockDavidson
@BrockDavidson 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, in several varieties: brocksperformance.com/brocks-exhaust-systems/ultra-light-stainless-full-systems/kawasaki/zx-10r/
@300zxdriver
@300zxdriver 4 жыл бұрын
Slip on
@cl55amgrenntech84
@cl55amgrenntech84 4 жыл бұрын
That zx14 on the back be looking at that zx10r and that Suzuki funny
@BrockDavidson
@BrockDavidson 4 жыл бұрын
lol, sometimes they don't play nice.
@paulhorvath9784
@paulhorvath9784 5 жыл бұрын
Sorry to sound stupid,,I have a 2019 Gsxs 750z with a Yoshi Alpha T slip on and want to keep the exhaust stock as well as air cleaner since its as the 1000..I'm not after massive gains rather Optimum performance,, responsive and smooth throttle etc ,,Would a Woolich tune be Advisable and what type of gains can I expect ..Oh I've had my throttle bodies calibrated at first service and difference is noticeable... Thanks Anyone...
@BrockDavidson
@BrockDavidson 5 жыл бұрын
Any performance derestriction flash and quality fuel tune will help response and drivability.
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