Kayak Self Rescue - Heavy Kayak Self Recovery using a Jackson Coosa FD

[@thomascoyne7422]

Great method! Just got my coosa fd. Will definitely be attaching an assist rope. Thanks!

[@BCKA]

First thing I thought of was prusik knot. Great info to know before your kayak flips. Bret SYOTW

[@pamela8570]

Awesome thanks

[@davidwolf7351]

We always have flip lines on our inflatable kayaks when running whitewater. When you are flipped in a rapid getting back in quickly is paramount. On our duckies we used cam buckle flat straps that where secured 360 degrees around the boat. The flat straps never got in the way yet were easy to grab at any location. Not sure this would work on a hard shell but some sort of flip line is the only way to go. We used 5000# rated carabiners - over kill for sure but never had to worry about them failing plus if a raft got stuck on a rock in the middle of a river we would use them in a z-rig to pull the raft off the rock.

[@KayakhacksFishing]

thank you for that expert perspective!

[@dkingofimages]

Great Tip - I flipped mine yesterday and I had to swim it to the nearest boat dock that was about 40 yards away. I didn't have the stand up assist rope nor a way to pump out water.

[@KayakhacksFishing]

ouch. With flipping, the word is "when" I will flip, not "If."

[@anthonylawlor9130]

All I can say is thanks......

[@mikeperez4727]

Excellent video.

[@vvogt4252]

Everyone Should Know this info. Awesome

[@NobodyWhatsoever]

I thought you might have been referencing that video! As unfortunate as they are (at least the people were alright!), they are so instructive in what can happen! edit: That was also a great demonstration about using quality gear! Imagine if someone was using some of those little dinky 2-inch carabiners, basically good for keys and not much else, and thought they could use one to flip their kayak! It would be worse off than the one you used.

[@KayakhacksFishing]

I learned a lot from the other video and I would have thought 150 lb capacity would have been plenty! I found a 260 lb stainless steel clip to replace it with.

[@NobodyWhatsoever]

A lot of climbers would have some harsh words to say about using inexpensive carabiners for any sort of load-bearing. However, the 'good' ones are not only expensive, but also probably a bit too fiddly to use right when mostly submerged, and panicking because a large wake just shook you and everything else out of your boat! You're making me want to hunt around for reasonable options. Also, I am glad to know your side carry handles can tolerate the force needed for the flip. I just installed my own, and I'm hoping the rivets can handle more than just the kayak's weight, in such an emergency. I'll be keeping this video and others of yours in mind when I go out this weekend!

[@KayakhacksFishing]

Yes, I was surprised there was this much load. I'll test again using the new one.

[@NobodyWhatsoever]

I know it's not in line with this direct line of conversation, but I took my kayak out on my first 'real' body of water today -- that is, on a river, and not just a pond. While fishing the river, a remarkably large spotted gar* followed one of my lures. I was debating whether to let it take the lure, but I was also unsure of how to even wrangle this beast onto my kayak (an older moder Ascend D10T -- I should add some Apple products, and make it an iD10T lol -- either way, a ten-foot paddle kayak), much less whether my modest-sized landing net (big enough for anything I would really ever expect to catch) could handle this monstrosity. Have you any advice for catching an unexpectedly large fish, or handling large feisty catches on a kayak? *Now the tangential story: I encountered a father and son on their kayaks on my way back in. The dad asked me if I had spotted this gar. When I saw it, I was hoping the water was greatly exaggerating its size. Apparently not! The dad said the last time a catch-and-release fisherman had weighed it, it was at least 35 pounds. When the dad had last caught it, he could not raise the entire fish out of the water, holding it by the gills. Some others who frequent that river have hooked this gar, but nobody has been able to successfully land it. It seems almost like one of those fishing legends I used to see featured in movies; this spotted gar is a bit of a tall tale, but can actually be sighted in the river. It was my first time fishing there, and it's sort of an honor to see this thing!

[@KayakhacksFishing]

Wow! Given the needle teeth on a gar, I would not want it flopping around! Maybe just use fish grips to hold it in place long enough to release the hook and not try and pull it in. Kind of like the Hemingway story about the old man and the sea

[@LarryTalbot_1313]

You didn't mention if you took on any water in the video but I think you might have taken on some water because you were listing on the port side quite a bit. It could have been from you leaning to that side, but I don't think leaning would bring it that low in the water. This is an excellent video! I have been flipped in my old Pescador Angler 12 and had a bit of trouble up-righting it again. When you are deep in the water, its w whole different story. I can't imagine how it would be in my SP13. That thing is a beast on land, I know it would be a monster taking on water! I'm going to have to upgrade my stand assist strap to heavy duty now, long before I ever need it!!! Thank you for this all too important lesson!!!

[@KayakhacksFishing]

You are right on both counts! I did have water inside and I was leaning towards the camera. That stand up assist issue was a real surprise!

[@Rick1dat]

That will come in very handy sometime. Thanks

[@floydaltonmiller]

Great demo and advice.

[@steveharzman9805]

Thank you. These are good ideas. I need to change my pull-up carabiner. I’m bigger than you are and that was kind of scary.

[@vagabond-yj8pn]

Good stuff.

[@philod902]

I always have a small knife in my pocket when I'm out fishing. In a pinch, if your stand up assist line is tangled or you don't have one, cut the anchor trolley line to tie off amidships somewhere and use it.

[@KayakhacksFishing]

Great point!

[@Victorkayak]

A very good idea awesome info thanks my friend 👍👍👍👍👍

[@KayakhacksFishing]

More on kayak recovery: kzbin.info/aero/PL8egn41J7Go-uI0UCbLAhsXm-ioiyTSdd Here's how to make a stand up assist rope or strap: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eJvFfaZqothkqLc

[@trimore7]

Great idea. Have you thought about where to keep the strapping so it is easily accessible when the kayak is upside down?

[@KayakhacksFishing]

I use my stand up assist rope and it is always attached to my front handle - so it is easy to reach and unhook.

[@jerry-381]

Great video! I was just talking about this last weekend with my better half on how I need to get a stand assist rope for my Hobie PA14. It's a heavy boat and I carry a lot of stuff in it including a 48 quart ice chest and sometimes a live well. Instead of using a carabiner (I'm not a fan of carabiners at all) I plan on using a 3/8" stainless swivel eye snap hook.

[@KayakhacksFishing]

I don't think I'm a fan any longer either! Here's my video on making a stand up assist - kzbin.info/www/bejne/eJvFfaZqothkqLc

[@richardsykes7971]

In say 45 degree water how long would a person have to successfully use this technique and get to shore before it's a major issue? Good info thanks for video.

[@KayakhacksFishing]

I think this is the quickest way. I have another vid coming on speeding the entry... as you point out that is critical

[@hankb1604]

If paddling in 45F water, you should be wearing a dry suit.

[@RedowlMB]

I think I might just tie a piece of paracord to the side handles of my kayak and wrap then around the handle so they will always be right were I need them.

[@KayakhacksFishing]

That would work!

[@larryjones5295]

Nice job thanks.

[@dontblameme6328]

Good video. I'd like to see this in a little more realistic situation starting with a fully loaded yak for fishing. How would a full crate, tethered rods, etc affect the recovery?

[@KayakhacksFishing]

Good point. The benefit of the flip line is you are using your strong legs to flip the boat back. A bunch of stuff hanging off the bottom would make it harder, but not impossible. Worst case you could use the flip line to mount the upturned hull and locate the handle. Grab the handle and use your body weight to turn it over.

[@antonvelarde]

This is a good technique, but may be difficult to apply especially when you are fishing in a flowing water, such as in a channel or in an area strong current, is there anyway you can demonstrate this technique with real life scenario, where you have rod holders sticking out and some weight on your kayak. Thanks again for the very informative video. ;)

[@KayakhacksFishing]

I appreciate your comments and you are correct it gets sporty in fast moving water. My assumption is if this is in a river, you could hopefully swim the boat to the shore or an eddy. It gets tough if the water is cold and you need to get out right away. In that situation, the boat should be set up for the worst case scenario with no obstructions like the rod holders. Thanks for pointing out the challenge!

[@rogerjones1628]

Good stuff thanks for sharing

[@chetyoder]

on my pdl i use the drive unit as a grab and pull device works pretty good

[@KayakhacksFishing]

That would work. Do you worry about bending anything? I was stunned by the bend flipping this put in my carabiner rated at 150 lbs.

[@chetyoder]

the oldtown drive seems pretty stout but a rope rolled up in the side handle and using your feet seemed pretty easy too

[@USA-sx1xi]

Did you get water past the hatches and inside this Jackson Fd?

[@KayakhacksFishing]

Not a lot. The hatches were pretty tight. I had to purposely submerge it to get the inside to fill

[@USA-sx1xi]

Was just curious is all. Am wanting to purchase this yak was concerned if it flipped would it flood the inside quickly or no water at all entered. My next concern is the weight its 30lbs heavier than my peception Pescador Pilot.

[@retnav92]

Viewing videos, and saw a couple about the use of a paddle float and utilizing the paddle as a makeshift outrigger to stabilize the kayak while reentering. Anyone ever use one of these, or have it onboard...just in case?

[@KayakhacksFishing]

I have seen those used mostly for sit-inside kayaks. Be interesting if anyone has a perspective for our fishing kayaks.

[@retnav92]

@@KayakhacksFishing: Yes it would. I'm a minimalist when it comes to how much fishing gear I have onboard, but I'm a big proponent of safety/life-saving gear. I'm already stowing a small throw bag w/50ft of line in it. Checkout "Shoreline Marine Deluxe Throw Bag" (item# SL92000) at Walmart in the boating section.

[@bradleymartin9298]

1:46 grab the handle

[@KayakhacksFishing]

Yes, if you can reach it and find it. As you saw from the embedded video, that guy was unable to get to it.

[@bradleymartin9298]

Kayak Hacks Fishing oh i see

[@docbailey3265]

Couldn’t you just call AAA?

[@KayakhacksFishing]

lol!