How The Internet Fell Out of Love With Selena Gomez

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[@myas.6485]

free palestine

[@wateverziam]

sometimes i think people need to accept that just because you like a celebrity doesn't mean they are a kind or good person.

[@SnapeArgento]

that's part of growing up

[@nopeninja9765]

Not just celebrities we need to get that with regular people too. It would help people get out of a lot of toxic relationships and friendships if we excepted that just because we like someone doesn’t mean they are good.

[@hotsexyangel]

@@nopeninja9765 true. But me personally, I don’t like any person that doesn’t have good morals. If they’re not a good person, I instantly dislike them and stay away.

[@ArgoBargo]

Thank you!

[@lAM3zKNY]

She’s not a good person because she doesn’t tweet about something you’re discussing? Maybe you need to grow up and realize that everyone has a mind of their own. Just because you want to be a victim and discuss trivial things don’t mean she has to

[@chrissis1944]

Quick reminder: Selena having Lupus, Bipolar disorder, being heartbroken, allegedly bullied or whatever is NOT an excuse for her poor behavior. So many other celebrities also have chronic illnesses, problems whatever and nobody bring that to the table so don’t make excuse for her 😭😭

[@SnapeArgento]

True, she should try a little bit to cope with these issues or else she will be resentful about things that happened 10 years ago forever, it's not fun

[@chrissis1944]

Her team need to take down her social media for a while because this is not helping her mental health. Back in 2015/2016 her assistant had her instagram’s password and would post for her she should go back to this.

[@CaulkMongler]

Always reminds me of the sentiment from Special (series): just because someone can have disabilities doesn’t mean they’re impervious from being an asshole.

[@sherenehenry9991]

Yes but you people project a lot on her too. They troll her health and her singleness. All these Hollywood child stars are emotionally stunted. People who expect more from them are the delusional ones.

[@emanali5607]

she was never bullied tho Demi, hailey and kendall was stfu selena fan continue to support someone who is supporting israel and genocide FREE PALESTINE

[@ammm8096]

You forgot a big part of the selena and hailey drama, while selena was telling people to let hailey alone she was also liking and commenting tiktoks bashing and making fun of hailey

[@janieearredondo]

So what.

[@ammm8096]

@@janieearredondo then it was very fake of her to pretend she actually wanted her fans to stop harassing Hailey, she was basically rewarding then for harassing her

[@janieearredondo]

You’re right…

[@mapetidye]

The same thing was being done to her too tho

[@ammm8096]

@@mapetidye yeah, people were being disgusting to her tbh, like crossing all kinds of lines, but the point is that Hailey didn't like tiktoks and comments calling Selena all kinds of things

[@sethuzothe6372]

You missed when The Weeknd left Bella Hadid for Selena Gomez and so Bella Hadid unfollowed her. After Hadid unfollowed her, a Selena fanpage posted a picture noting Hadid’s unfollowing so then Selena Gomez commented, saying women should support it each other and it sucks that Hadid unfollowed her. That’s honestly so childish. Why would you continue following your ex-boyfriend’s new girlfriend that he left you for?

[@xToniMichellex]

Left Gigi? It was Bella who he was with

[@aygunsahin1586]

you obviously don't know shit but still hating. what i am curious about is that how can she make people this pressed, they didn't know shit but still hating for example 😂😂😂😂

[@sherenehenry9991]

Lol...just the same way HB is following her Instagram...pls. It's Hollyweird they all share the same sexual energy. Selena has literally had s3x with every woman and man Justin has had s3x with energetically just by having s3x with JB. To the outside world it looks atrocious but it was ok in Hollywood. It was a PR relationship between Selena and the weekend, but somehow our misogynistic society always find a way to blame the women involved.

[@cj-fi7kz]

If I remember correctly, selena commented or liked a photo Bella posted, then Bella removed the photo and a fan page posted it and S commented on the fan page playing the victim 😂 I'm actually a selena fan, but she wrong at times damn

[@chrissis1944]

@@cj-fi7kz She was so weird for trying hard to get Bella’s attention especially after she dated her ex. She saw that Bella wasn’t going to give her attention so she tried to make her look bad with her IG comment, she was never a girl’s girl. And I know that Bella and her were never “friend” they only hang out in the same circle but idk that’s weird to me.

[@alexia57]

I just hate that Selena constantly references “using her platform for good” and when the time comes for her to do exactly that, she doesn’t… She cherry picks which issues she speaks out on, with her being VERY vocal for Ukraine but suddenly “a post won’t change anything” when it comes to Palestine and BLM.

[@MoonChildLux]

Palestine is a country of a bunch of homophobes and sexists, They belive both gays and women shouldn't have any rights. Nobody should be supporting them. When they open their arms and hearts and are more accepting of the LGBT and Women's rights, others will be more accepting of them. As for BLM she isn't black and therefore doesnt owe the movement anything. And maybe when black people stop making fun of white people on tiktok, youtube and other platforms, we can really start talking about equality. Because if a white person said A SINGLE ONE of the jokes black people make about white people they would be cancelled in a heartbeat. Also the black race is the most homophobic and racist race of literally any other race. Probably because they are the most religious race. But that is no excuse.

[@capricornladyj1900]

Did a post change anything for Ukraine? No they lost! Did it change anything for BLM? And all the posts that other people have made for Palestine has it changed anything? How come Palestinians support Russia vs Israel supporting Ukraine

[@lblincoe2094]

"Cherry picking"?? Uh yeah, it's called personal autonomy and that's exactly her right to do! Choosing to use your personal platform to do what you think is social good, based on your core values, personal beliefs, and what really matters to you, does not obligate anyone to use their platform for EVERY social good that matters to everyone else too! She didn't sign up for that! You've seriously set these distorted, irrational rules that you only apply to her, just to undermine her. It's using extremely flawed thinking that's invalidating the value of what she's done on the premise that she's not doing MORE. That's insane! There are always going to be causes out there that are tragically underserved, but it's not her or any other celebrity's responsibility to save them. Undermining her efforts to change things because she isn't changing ALL the things it's just creating a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" circumstances for her it's just callously unfair!

[@Nina-hz9vv]

​@@lblincoe2094 First of all, personal autonomy doesn't automatically mean what she did is right. We have personal autonomy to do whatever we want, and then bear the consequences of what we all choose to do. She is a public figure and the public disagrees with her take on Palestine and Israel. It's to be expected. Should the public just be quiet when they sense something was unfair? No, the public has a right to react just as she has a right to support whatever she wants. That's just how it is when you have a large audience. I personally believe it's hypocritical to speak up about Russia and Ukraine, but then take a whole different stance on another war that's just as important and devastating. It seems like a pr move to not take a stance about Palestine. That being said, it's my opinion and most of the public agrees. She can do whatever she wants, but everyone has a right to have an opinion on it as well. She has countless resources to deal with the backlash and personal autonomy to not use social media, not read the comments, not play into it. She is way more equipped to deal with this backlash than people affected by war are to deal with said war.

[@justwonder1404]

​@@Nina-hz9vvyou see, it may be easier to side with an oppressed/attacked group when that group's military don't murder, torture and kidnap hundreds of civilians from the opposite side. I'm all for supporting the people of Palestine but I understand why someone might be uncomfortable speaking out after what Hamas did.

[@bellap.4623]

Has anyone noticed that some of the people who are famous today have had to “pay a price for it”. The internet starts to like them after something horrible has happened to them. Sadly, Selena is one example, but also the first ever wave of support for Hailey Bieber came after she had a stroke, Olivia Rodrigo, after being wronged in her relationship AND Sabrina Carpenter after being bullied on the internet for it. It’s like the general public views these people almost like animals in a zoo, until something horrible happens that humanises them. That’s when they get real recognition.

[@venusbby]

“Misery loves company” however, the public would most likely backtrack when the protagonist shows that they’re empowered

[@Gman1998]

The Olivia and Sabrina example is the craziest one because everyone loved Olivia and were saying how much they hate Sabrina. But now the tables turned and everyone who loves Sabrina and hates Olivia. I feel like there's a time limit and how long people will sympathize before they start hating a celebrity again

[@kobra4422]

I very much agree with you. I see Internet giving massive attention to people who were somehow traumatized or hurt. Obviously on one hand it's good bc some of us don't have any emotional support/validation in our trauma except of online groups/recovery channels. But the problem is some of "victims" aren't interested in healing/moving on but capitalizing on attention, likes, views etc. Their audience glorifies them just bc they were "hurt", wasting all time and energy on someone who often is much more priviliged and has access to therapy etc. People escape their own issues by focusing on "supporting" someone else. That fuels the victim complex. That's why I don't trust folks who try to get audience by oversharing their diseases and capitalizing on sympathy. Your viewers aren't your therapist or doctor.

[@urdelulufriendrd]

wait what happened with both the ladies like pls gimme tea :) @@Gman1998

[@lef4160]

​@@Gman1998 It's ridiculous... during all the hate Hayley was getting I was wondering when it was going to turn against Selena. And then people suddenly started hating on Selena and supporting Hayley. The thing is it probably won't take long for people to revert everything again, it seems cyclical and it's crazy to me how people seem to have a need to hate someone they don't even know

[@LaDeGafitas]

Just one note: Selena and Demi didn't meet working at Disney for the first time, they met in Barney and friends. That other little girl with glasses in the Barney pic? Yeah, that's Demi.

[@justjoannak]

I was about to say this, too!

[@nyssaalghul-queen08]

I was going to say that too, it seems like alot of people forget that tho😯

[@abbied]

I remember the time I had to explain to my mom that was Demi (lord) 😩😂

[@abbied]

She was like “No!” And I was like “Yep, that was Demi”

[@via45]

How can she get such a basic fact wrong

[@LunaWitcherArt]

I find it funny that Selena curated her whole public persona so much in her 20s (I don't think it is a coincidence that she started to drift away from Demi right before Demi's addiction became so disastrous she almost died, and the thing with Justin was really inconsequential compared to that) and now everything is like overflowing. She didn't have a public meltdown, she didn't tell Disney to f*ck off and made that her whole personality ( a la Miley at the time), she didn't start fights, she didn't talk back, very demure and contained. All that contributed to her image as "the Pure ex-disney star", the one that wasn't screwed by the experience (which I find hard to believe since her best friend who was there with her had a WILDLY different experience and was violated in several ways, but that's my conspiracy theory brain talking), the unproblematic. Now she does not seem to be curating anything anymore, and in fact she keeps getting messier, but it's a very specific brand of messy - teenage messy. Like she was holding back all the pettiness, all the snark, for so long that it is now bursting out of her. And I don't know how much of that her image can take, even if she is the most followed person on Instagram.

[@karmica7591]

It’s such an interesting take and I feel like you could absolutely be right about it.

[@Partycitybaex]

Her character on Hannah Montana gave me a gut feeling that she was really spiteful in real life. Also wizards of waverly place.

[@DarkLxzarus]

@@annnoying5513Method Acting is a thing and I mean if you can create a very realistic performance for something you have to know more than a thing or to to do so good with it.

[@carolinalopes7640]

That's a very interesting way to look at it actually, and makes a lot of sense.

[@TheoneAlice]

this makes sense. I love her, but I understand what you're trying to say.

[@nerezzagreen5878]

the only part I disagree with is saying that the Selena and Hailey thing is just an uncalculated happenstance...Selena actively commenting on old tiktoks of hailey or of justin and her or on people's tiktoks bashing hailey ( either her looks, personality or relationships) isn't a coincidence? it's her knowingly restarting this one sided feud, borderline witchhunt, with the knowledge that her massive rabid fan base will harass that woman for years

[@florencembah2626]

Exactly

[@LunaWitcherArt]

That was the one drama where I was like "let the girls fight" cuz I liked how petty everything was. I am personally of the belief that Hailey started it, and Selena was being messy to fight back without getting her own hands dirty, but it got out of control FAST. She even acknowledged later how that was stupid since she was like 30 and this was schoolyard BS.

[@nerezzagreen5878]

making a tiktok trend video on her own account with 0 correlation to selena isn't "starting drama"....thinking that is chronically online delusional behaviour. acknowledging it later doesn't really matter considering how she continues to do it@@LunaWitcherArt

[@florencembah2626]

@LunaWitcherArt_. Hailey started nothing, that video wasn't directed at Selena & Hailey cleared it up. It was over until Selena started serial commenting like it was her job.....if you pay closed attention you'll see that Selena delusional fan started something & she help promote it.

[@Ninjaned]

True that 💯 ​@@LunaWitcherArt

[@NanaKaren0705]

Selena is the definition of having a manipulating victim complex. I’m glad her mask is finally falling off 🙏🏽 I’m so tired of everyone bullying Hailey when Selena’s whole platform is “be kind” but continued to support the hate Hailey was getting in secret.

[@chrissis1944]

Selena’s victims: Jasmine Villegas, Barbara Palvin, Cailin Russo, Katy Perry, Hailey Bieber, Sofia Ritchie, Madison Beer, Bella Hadid,.. Also Selena: « Be kind to everyone »

[@truestmermaid444]

literally i feel so bad for hailey when all i see are videos saying she copies her and selena says nothing about it, she loves it

[@eveningstar8581]

@@truestmermaid444same! I have from the beginning

[@eveningstar8581]

I agree! Let her lay in the bed she's made!

[@truestmermaid444]

literally like hailey seems so kind tbh and she loves justin sm@@eveningstar8581

[@thisisacomment.]

You calling Justin a human chipotle bag is SENDING ME☠️

[@TeaFortheClowns]

That was too good 😭

[@katherineraquelle1930]

And all the mean girls who were rude and disrespectful towards me back in middle school in 2008 who were groupies of Justin Bieber they are now looking like guacamole w/ chips on the side of his (Justin’s) human chipotle bag. Lmao

[@bees.857]

Adam Levine is the OG Chipotle bag

[@BuildingHP]

Literally cackled lol

[@justjoannak]

​@@bees.857Tbh, agree

[@soyfloral]

She's always been that way, even back in the day when Justin had a blonde model on one of his videos and she tweeted something in the lines of "I thought he only liked latinas". 💀 Sending her millions of fans to harass a woman who was only doing her job, lol.

[@aeoligarlic4024]

Didn't that model end up having a dead end career?

[@no.6377]

Or the time she felt compelled to comment on Justin's post where he literally just said "Hey guys...could you not harass and bully people. Ok thx " with a "Your fans act that way because they love you, so be nicer to them!!" or something like that. Basically encouraging their awful behaviour. IDK Selena's always been like this, but people hated Hailey so they made excuses for her.

[@Vesperad0]

​@@no.6377idk much about justin but that seems ironic coming from him. But that whole thing also seems like people on the internet feel like they have to pick between celebrities? Idk. It's weird, considering what you brought up about Selena completely misconstruing (intentionally or not) what Justin said and Hailey's racism/xenophobia. I find it weird some people feel compelled to pick between justifying parasocial behaviors and victim complexes and racism, or worse things that add to a "drama" between worse people...like, unrelated to everyone mentioned hopefully, but who picks and chooses between a groomer and bigot??

[@ieatgremlins]

Latinas can be blonde also lol

[@princessdollgf]

@@no.6377 classic stan enabler 😵

[@Reckoning2943]

Idk what’s going on but I’m getting whiplash by how fast the internet falls in and out of love with someone. Maybe we should all go outside, touch some grass and be offline for a minute.

[@Streamfit-j2k]

For real

[@chael360]

Yes ❤✅

[@Vesperad0]

That, and/or stop idolizing people. If there's one thing Christians got right (despite also failing at it, ironically), it's how bad idolatry is. But not because of a religious context, because it puts people on pedestals, encourages parasocial relationships, everything is either under intense scrutiny or is completely dismissed, and so on. It's okay to like people, but stop acting like a celebrity of all people is someone worth basing your morals and actions on. I thought we all agreed celebrities were...not the best people?

[@lamptabled]

or maybe you should read a little more on why selena gomez sucks and join the rest of the group instead of standing there in your little corner pretending to be better than everyone else

[@Reckoning2943]

@@lamptabled why are you so bitter lol You care way too much about people who don’t even know you

[@maryalicefike4704]

her PR team NEEDS to take control of her accounts and lock her out of them

[@kiaraburch2935]

Or have her start a personal private account/ finsta. I would be loosing hair if I was her pr team/ manager.

[@Greybell]

I seriously thought she doesn't use social media anymore when she claimed years ago that she doesn't use it anymore and let her team handled it. She needs to stay out of social media to avoid embarrassing herself.

[@abbied]

@@GreybellEven Olivia Rodrigo (who is only 20 years old) follows zero people on Instagram and has a finsta (like) 😩😭

[@omgitsreyz]

Honestly I think her doing all of this is good. Not good for her but good for people who idolise her. Now they can see what kind of a person she is and decide whether to support her or not.

[@eveningstar8581]

@@omgitsreyzexactly

[@Night-Shade.]

Selena was a victim of a toxic relationship with Justin and then she liked how the internet stood by her, so she developed a victim complex of "I'm healing blah blah" in every situation. She played into the victimhood of every situation especially when she was wrong. She's the classic girl that acts all nice in front of people and is actually awful behind closed doors. I never understood how people didn't see through that fake persona.

[@adxd1002]

I don't think it's a fake persona, I just believe she's someone who's not perfect...

[@Astonelle]

She seems like a really messed up person behind closed doors, she's absolutely addicted to sympathy 😭

[@vivianaugusta3000]

You read her very well. I don't understand why other people don't see it.

[@yeyosilver7067]

He was the victim, not her

[@starrynightsleep]

especially when she's besties with taylor... don't shoot the messenger

[@the-berries-and-cream-dude]

let make it clear, she tells her fans to not send hate after they have already ran wild and harassed the celebrity and when the hate is slowing down, that's when she "steps in"

[@malfcytrash]

its better than not stepping in tho lol

[@maddyG7414]

K but imagine having to tell people not to harass on your behalf like wtf 😂

[@thepossessedseries9014]

​@@malfcytrash why start drama in the first place

[@Vesperad0]

​@@malfcytrashsooner is better than later, regardless. Especially when you consider she was "silently" liking and commenting on pages bashing Hailey. I don't care for either, their celebrities I will never see in real life and will never live real lives, but that is a very two faced thing to do.

[@brandymariee]

Lol remember when Justin got upset with fans trashing Sofia Richie and she commented on his IG "If you can't handle the hate, then stop posting pictures of your girlfriend lol- It should be special between you two only. Don't be mad at your fans. They love you and were there for you before anyone else". Keep that same energy, Selena.... she is exhausting.

[@PadmeSkywalker-ig2mr]

Not to mention it was racist hate she was receiving. Justin was doing the right thing in defending her.

[@wellactually.]

I definitely agree that Selena feeds in to the drama. I think she secretly loves it and loves being the victim or the under dog. I get so much hate for saying that.. but I don't believe her whole "be kind to everyone" schtick... No one is perfect and I doubt that she has been the perfect girlfriend or friend

[@chrissis1944]

She was bullied at school when she was young, not popular and she also mentioned feeling like an outsider in Hollywood sometimes and that Taylor was really her only in the industry. She still lives in this underdog mentality, some people can have everything but in their head they feel like loser. This is why she always act like « poor me, I was hurt…. »

[@wellactually.]

@@chrissis1944 I agree... I've read that a lot of people that got fame at a young age start stuck in the mentality of the age they were when they got famous... Not sure how true it is but it seems true with her

[@himurahaibara1459]

Are you sure that actually happened​? Being bullied at school? What if it's one of her poor me strategy? What if those people didn't befriend her because she creates drama everywhere she goes? @@chrissis1944

[@samiaoishy7862]

Selena is her prime was better back than people change overtime When she was in her teens and early 20s she was doing pretty well but afterwards being in front of media for so long she's now embarrassing herself

[@heyhorinshi]

Yeah is almost like if you are going to directly direct fans and people you are going to say the best thing? Utopian even if we all know it’s not possible to be perfect we all strive for that at least

[@aeoligarlic4024]

Finally people are starting to speak out. Between slenators and swifties i don't know which fanbase is worse. But they have the tendency to ignore the wrongdoings of their queens

[@abbied]

Yeah the swifties are really something 😂😂😂😂

[@rosie8043]

I saw a video of a swiftie crawling out of a sewer to go to a taylor swift concert for free. I think i know who's worse

[@urdelulufriendrd]

what did taylor do?

[@pticato5349]

@@urdelulufriendrdliterally 😭😭 i’m not a swifty but she seems like a genuinely good person 🤷‍♀️

[@starlessfae]

@@urdelulufriendrd idk i think she dated a racist and is a genuine climate criminal using her private jet CONSTANTLY to fly to every chiefs game

[@averyeml]

The “she unfollowed me on social media ” part of drama always cracks me up because, like, who cares? Firstly I can’t imagine being a celebrity and hating someone enough to publicly unfollow them and invite the drama instead of just, like, installing a blacklist plugin for your browser or something. But on the other end, it’s social media??? Even complaining about it makes you sound 14 crying about not being in someone’s MySpace Top 8.

[@Its.magdolin]

Yess literallyyyyy

[@bajabl]

But why would someone unfollow someone if not in bad faith?

[@aya-_-3045]

@@bajabl following/unfollowing ppl is really not as big of a deal as yall make it out to be lmao

[@STRANGEANDDONUT]

😂😅

[@danielharmon15]

As someone who has seen all three seasons of Only Murders in the Building and enjoys Selena, I've seen audiences (social media and in real life) react widely different about her. They either think she's one of the best parts (besides Steve and Marty ofc) or is completely unwatchable (w her monotone affect and snarky personality)

[@Huffy1001]

I love her in ‘Murders’ a great cast, congrats. to the Casters it made the Series👍🏻

[@smellslikelayne]

yeah, i noticed she was stiff in season three but i just assumed it was from steroids or cause her character arc sorta called for it this season, i wasn't that bothered. went on the only murders subreddit and _jesus christ_ some people were being so rude about it

[@SuperWeenieHutJuniors]

At first I liked her role but as I watched episodes back to back the monotone voice became annoying. Idk, maybe if I didn't watch a lot of episodes at once it wouldn't have bothered me. But after a few episodes I zoned out whenever she spoke.

[@chrissis1944]

She is a decent actress, her best acting was on Disney when she was playing Alex Russo and that is because their personalities are somewhat similar. When it comes to OMITB, she was fine next to Martin Short and Steve Martin as a trio if she was the main character it would be a different scenario…

[@lauramessy]

her acting is stale

[@kbn7160]

Let's mention some interesting facts regarding Hailey and Selena situation. Selena didn't really brush off the scandal with HB, as she was commenting and liking creators on TikTok who were calling Hailey b****, nepo baby etc... Also, she released her single, obviously written for Justin Bieber, right after their wedding.

[@urdelulufriendrd]

even if hailey, bella and gigi are nepo kids i have seen the sisters walk are so pretty, dont know much about hailey work heard she is a model but i like her personality, they mind thier business, maintain the distance between privacy and socially they are rather peaceful just doing thier jobs, so i rather am drawn to them its my pov tho, same with bella too

[@aamnahere6250]

@@urdelulufriendrd We don't know any of these people. Neither Selena nor the others. As for Hailey, I do remember her racist and xenophobic tweets and that is something I find absolutely disgusting. I don't care about their relationships and all of that but saying racist and xenophobic stuff on Twitter and then deleting it years later is quite problematic.

[@SaraLedID4d]

@@aamnahere6250Wait what she say and did she apologise?

[@Ummmmmmmm841]

I want to add that the most shocking thing in the kidney gate is that from an interview with Francia she hinted that the doctor that was responsible for testing didn't respected her privacy, and it was actually selena who informed Francia that they were a match, which is suspicious and puts Francia in a vulnerable position with pressure to donate. Like this is on another level compared to the other drama.

[@delicateBruise]

Yes!!! Crazy how nobody ever mentions that...

[@Nina-hz9vv]

Her behavior is a direct result of her fans excusing, defending and enabling her victim mentality. I don't blame her for it tho. "Kindness and sunshine" is her brand, she is playing into the performance and her fans buy into it. I don't claim she is a bad person, but she is definitively playing into the "poor me" too much.

[@lhvy5066]

she learn it from Taylor

[@Tumeric91]

Exactly !! If she didn’t put brand herself that way she wouldn’t be held to a high standard

[@lindsayschmidt2177]

I’m gonna be honest, I genuinely do not understand why celebrities are expected to make statements about sociopolitical global events. Most of the time they’re ignorant of the issues that are actually going on and their statements do more harm than good. It ultimately ends up feeling like people just want to see these celebrities make a fool out of themselves more than they want to see support for the cause.

[@GeaDaya]

Nah, mark ruffalo is support palestine And also jason statham, he publicly support palestine.

[@amlc6045]

She’s an ambassador for UNICEF. That’s exactly the person that needs to “get educated” about situations like what is happening with Gaza. Like what’s the point of being a UNICEF ambassador?!

[@chameleon25]

That recent Hailey Bieber vs Selena Gomez thing was sooooooo annoying I was so sick of seeing stuff about it everywhere. People buying out shelves of rare beauty just cause of a “mean” tik tok and IG story that they thought could be about Selena. 🙄 and all the ganging up against Hailey Bieber. there are people I look at differently now after that lol. So damn petty.

[@xoxdesire]

Whats crazy is the Selena fans took a months old tik tok in the midst of ppl calling Hailey/Kylie bullies AND told everyone the sound was about Selena getting fat shamed. like WHAT??? The two things didn't even correlate at all and when did Selena get fat shamed? Like I know she's on meds so sometimes she gets swollen but to say that tik tok of a trending sound was them saying Selena deserved to get fat shamed is like ??? I actually think they are so crazy and connect the most random things that Selena sees it and thinks its actually true and plays into it or she just comments to cause dreama, I have no idea but Hailey literally did nothing that day. Kylie posted a screenshot and idk how them showing eyebrows is bullying Selena and taking an OLD tik tok. Its crazy that she got death threats and so much hate for doing nothing lol. I do believe they have both shaded each other in the past but Hailey was literally 18 when she started a relationship with JB.... Hailey and JB are going on 6 years of marriage, Selena shouldn't even engage with anything about them. She left the weeknd to get back with Justin and within months they were already having issues.

[@amlc6045]

People also forget that she’s an ambassador for UNICEF. That’s exactly the kind of person that needs to “get educated” about situations like the one with Gaza. Like what’s the point of being a UNICEF ambassador? I see comments saying that celebs shouldn’t have to talk about things like this, but she’s literally an ambassador for a humanitarian world organization…

[@winifredeghrudje9427]

I don’t mind her but learning more about the hailey/kylie drama and kidney situation she is quite shady. I recommend honest video on it “Selena Gomez is so messy”

[@expensivepink7]

exactly. she encourages all the toxic stuff literally COMMENTING PRAISE about it and then a week later is like "guyssss stahpppp!" it's insanity. same with the kidney and the substance abuse stuff... like oh my god??

[@novagray4143]

I used to feel the same but the H3h3 powerpoint olivia made kinda made me change my perspective.

[@novagray4143]

Like shes still messy but i get why

[@lauraboredom2168]

im sorry but what kidney situation? lies people have made up? even francia has debunked them several times and ngl she was the messy one with her comments and calling tmz but now she is using selena to promote her salsa it is a lil weird

[@dr.philmcbill3931]

@@lauraboredom2168 These aren’t lies. Francia herself very heavily implied that Selena guilted her into giving up a kidney. Then Selena was openly rude to her on social media, THEN after the backlash, only then did Francia do one TikTok with Selena. Basically, Selena’s PR team had to make it see like they were friends after Selena messed up.

[@irisalexander]

demi's *"ASK TAYLOR 😊"* was so iconic.

[@Taylorc0de]

meanwhile Taylor doesn't know what's going on lol

[@MindBlinged]

You missed the part where Selena was actively liking and commenting on videos that were negative towards Hailey. I think that just added fuel to the fire.

[@wassermelonification]

people be making celebrities more responsble for world events than politicians. it's a wild concept to me

[@expensivepink7]

i know this is shortened and i don't mean this as hate but you skipped the parts where BEFORE selena would "ask her fans to stop" she would literally like and comment ON THE TOXIC VIDEOS "defending her" saying "thank you" LOLLLL.

[@LunaWitcherArt]

She also skipped the part where Francia (?) has made several statements in interviews about how she does not like how Selena behaves after the kidney transplant and that the way she tells it, she was more pressured into donating because she was compatible than actually wanted to donate because it was to her friend. But hey, short video, not meant to be a deep dive.

[@Bunny-nj2we]

​@@LunaWitcherArtfrnacia never spoke bad about it in interviews

[@Bunny-nj2we]

There are many reasons why selena would like that video the girl said she was now a selenator and she would stream all her music and shows.

[@vmarie22456]

@@LunaWitcherArtFrancia said she was never pressured.. she debunked this.

[@LunaWitcherArt]

@@vmarie22456 I am not saying that they made Francia donate. I'm saying that you can "not be pressured", but be in a situation where the fact that you can donate was revealed without your consent, where everyone will low-key think you are an a-hole if you DON'T donate, because "your friend is literally dying and you CAN help but you won't", and where the friend in question is way more famous and influential than you in your own field so you don't wanna burn that bridge and have it backfire on you. You can "not have been pressured" and yet all these things can still heavily weigh on your decision. She was not ready to donate a kidney. Selena received her kidney and kept drinking and that made Francia mad like the kidney was still in her body. That's the reaction of a person who didn't want to donate something and is now seeing it trashed.

[@paruramesh9269]

Her fans defending her bad behaviour by connecting it with mental illness is actually evil🙄 she has literally gaslighted her fans to bully other celebrities

[@mluna1898]

Exactly, someone tried to fight with me on Twitter over this. Like go touch some grass

[@xoxdesire]

that or Lupus! I cannot stan when they blame things on Lupus that has nothing to do with it lol as someone that has it.

[@Vesperad0]

Also ironically demonizing mentally illness as well. People with mental illnesses already suffer enough with having to be the "perfect victim" or else there's no sympathy for them, but having people on the internet act like bullying is a mental illness in an of itself is...stupid. To be clear, I'm well aware that mental illnesses can make people "not fun to be around", to put it lightly. I would know. But even then mentally ill people know not to weaponize something they struggle with, especially bipolar disorder. Mentally ill people are capable of being bullies, and/but bullying cannot be excused by mental illness. For the most part, it's separate.

[@Mia15239]

@@xoxdesire ummm do you have lupus? do you know what its like to have lupus? if you dont then you should really shut the trash before you get judged with the length of your own stick. karmas a bitch.

[@paruramesh9269]

​@rarara9472 so many celebrities suffer from mental illnesses but doesn't mean they should use that as an excuse to bully others. She should get help. Girl is coping by bullying people

[@izzyc127]

I would like to see Jojo siwa for your next how the internet fell out of love with episode considering the controversies she’s been in lately.

[@taylornusteling8692]

Yes, agreed.

[@christianwise637]

I'm a little out of the loop, what's happened with Jojo Siwa?

[@izzyc127]

@@christianwise637 kzbin.info/www/bejne/gWLclJqfZt-MZ7ssi=J4vDbTRfu0Ob4L6s this video explains everything that has happened with her

[@izzyc127]

@@taylornusteling8692 the podcast was Tana’s

[@taylornusteling8692]

@@izzyc127 Thank you.

[@gabbiwisteria]

People are commenting how she is a horrible person behind closed doors as if they’ve seen her behind closed doors like be fr we don’t know her personally.

[@via45]

Well we already know she isn't a good person online 😂

[@Mia15239]

ikr thank u for some common sense around here. everyones just riding on the 'outrage' train. dumb af

[@KatieLHall-fy1hw]

The only seamless one I can honestly say was Hilary Duff. And she had issues too, but it seems like she is in a pretty good place. She also isn’t always trying to chase stardom, she is just trying to work, which I think is great. I love her so much

[@aeoligarlic4024]

Hillary vs Lindsay? I thought they were more like pitted against eachother by hollywood. I think they're pretty tame

[@ConcertsWu]

Selenators are one of the most toxic fan bases online. They've bullied me because I was a multi stan of both Selena and Demi, but they said I couldn't stan both or I was a "fake stan". Selenators even went as hard to mock Demi's health issues from their eating disorder and past drug abuse. As for Selena herself, she has a song called "Kill Em With Kindness", yet in the last two years, it doesn't feel like that if she's trying to give subtle shade, as her fans take a small action from her, and jump to conclusions on if the drama pertains to someone she is not friends with. I've always loved Selena since her Disney days, and she's killing it with Rare Beauty, but social media kinda made her less appealing to me.

[@katherineraquelle1930]

So is Taylor’s fan base.

[@ConcertsWu]

@@katherineraquelle1930yes, Swifties are also very toxic

[@lauraboredom2168]

hi lovatic and selenator here i can garantee you it goes both ways lovatics can be so nasty too and calling her selupus and dragging her every chance they get. selena and demi deserve better fans i miss when fan twitter was about communities loving and supporting their faves not what it's become it's so toxic and disgusting, i've stepped away

[@nopeninja9765]

I would love someone to do a list of the nicest fanbases. Whether it’s for actors, singers, movies, games, shows I can’t think of any fanbase that isn’t toxic.

[@ConcertsWu]

@@lauraboredom2168 I'm also a Lovatic and Selenator. I remember the Selupus incidents, and that was just as disgusting. Stan Twitter truly brought out the worst in people believing their faves are "the better star", but I'm the fake stan for liking multiple people. And the para-social of it all makes it even worse.

[@sailorVenus225]

You're missing a lot of details here. Like HOW did the Hailey video resurface? And what did Selena comment on tiktoks referencing Hailey Bieber as despicable etc..

[@LunaWitcherArt]

Hey, it's not a deep dive, cut her some slack

[@kimberleywilliams7802]

Also how her and Francia fell out which is allegedly because Selena loves alcohol and drugs too much, wish she started drinking after she got the kidney, angering Francia because, she was, first of all, guilted into having the kidney because the doctor found out she was a match and told Selena first which is apparently illegal? And her recovery after having her kidney removed was really hard for her and Selena wasn't really there for her I think which is yh just weird and messy.

[@wandasbodyguard]

Her and Francia never fell out, she even went onto admit that wasn’t it and it was a rumour. Please update your facts before riding a hate train.

[@LunaWitcherArt]

@@wandasbodyguard The problem is, if something that happened to me got out and I didn't want anyone to know about it, I would also say it was a rumor, too, to discredit anyone saying it. All I know is that she said she felt uncomfortable having Selena know about them being compatible before she was ready to tell her about it. That COULD (not saying that it did, saying that it COULD) lead to her feeling bad about parting with a kidney that was then transplanted to someone who drinks so much they even joke about it.

[@Katysha-bw1cy]

I don't get why people get mad over her for not talking about Palestine. She said that she isn't educated enough to talk, like I don't think that celebrities have a duty to talk about something if they are not comfortable or educated, like...they are not the news, if they talk great, if don't ok, I will not attack someone for shit like that.

[@user-rv7ge1tc4l]

tbh I wish more people were like that. Sometimes it is better to shut up

[@amlc6045]

Ummm…she’s an ambassador for UNICEF. That’s exactly the person that needs to “get educated” about situations like the one happening in Gaza. Like what’s the point of being a UNICEF ambassador?!

[@kookoo5254]

she's living proof that we never know the true intentions of celebrities ever, and everything they say or do should be taken with a grain of salt. We saw her as this realistic, down to earth big sister figure but in a time of crisis like this, where she could make real change, at least by raising awareness, she chose the easy and not most ethical way out, then again chose to be sarcastic about it. Truly disappointing.

[@PortugalZeroworldcup]

Maybe she didn't want to comment she knows nothing about Gal Gadot, Natalie Portman would know better

[@kookoo5254]

@@PortugalZeroworldcup There is nothing to know in order to demand an end to the mass murder of innocent people. An average of 110 kids die and 10 lose their limbs everyday for the past 95 days, in a small city of 2M people. And that's only the children. Let that sink in. This is one of those cases where there's a clear distinction between evil and good. She did comment on other issues before.

[@PortugalZeroworldcup]

@@kookoo5254 Israel is nine million people so your lying 🤥

[@PortugalZeroworldcup]

@@kookoo5254 hamas is funded by qatar and possibly Iran A singer from USA isn't supposed to solve this problem

[@preranataylorsversion6883]

World issue is supposed to be solved by world leaders not celebrity

[@fatyfarrell]

I know she's huge but why? She's not making hits music or acclaimed movies but she's somehow she's a star!

[@tacocat9844]

her billion dollar makeup company

[@anniee5487]

her makeup brand is really popular and stars in only murders in the building with steve martin and martin short, but she probably keeps peoples attention with the drama and posts online

[@LeilaleilaZ]

I'd argue with you about the hit music. Not too long ago she released an album and it was everywhere. Even I who don't even actively look for her music to listen to know of various songs from it. Other than that she's one of Disney's most legendary stars, even if she never releases anything again people will just support her for the nostalgia

[@lauraboredom2168]

i mean she has been working since she was 7 years old when she starred on Barney which is huge in the US then she kinda dominated disney channel with wizards ofc but she also had roles in zac and cody, hannah montana, sonny with a chance her disney and non-disney films too were quite big too monte carlo, ramona and beezus, cinderella story... she was a HUGE part of many people's childhoods she also does have a lot of hits like objectively talking she truly does when you look at the material she stays booked and busy too like acting with industry legends in Only Murders In The Building, her own cooking show Selena + Chef, music, upcoming films, rare beauty...

[@nopeninja9765]

A lot of people mentioned her make up brand but Selena seemed to be huge way before that and I didn’t understand why. Her show on Disney was a hit and I’m guessing her relationship with Justin when she was young made her the teen queen at the time. Similar to how big Rob and Kristen were during Twilight.

[@leonardo.diCATio]

I can kind of understand the Palestine thing. I've always found it odd how people hound their favorite celebrities to commentate on horrible events going on in the world. They likely know nothing about it, they aren't politicians or activists. They sing pop songs. Any statement they make would do literally nothing to help the situation going on in Palestine. It's honestly just unfair to put that in that position, it's not their job and it's VERY easy for them to do more harm than good.

[@GeaDaya]

Jason statham publicly support palestine and so does mark ruffalo

[@amlc6045]

She’s an ambassador for UNICEF. That’s exactly the person that needs to “get educated” about situations like what is happening with Gaza. Like what’s the point of being a UNICEF ambassador?!

[@OmarAyusoVA]

Honestly this is pretty tame in terms of celebrity controversies. It's so strange how the Internet falls out with women over very stupid things but men can be rapists and abusers and no one cares

[@persephonehades7547]

Yeah...I was just sitting here waiting for the actual "bad" stuff to happen, with receipts, but it never did. I'm coming out of this really confused lol

[@LucaBricca]

never understood the hype with Selena: she is a very pretty girl with some good acting roles but as far as talent goes it ends there. I see people calling her a music legend and I’m like… you’re delulu. I think Selena is very aware that her relevance doesn’t rely on her talents but more with how she markets herself and who she associates herself with, because other than that, she would be a nostalgia act like most of her peers. Like even last year, each time Selena would fuck up on the internet, she would be seen with Taylor Swift like two days later.

[@craisins95]

My mom and I watch Only Murders in the Building together whenever a new season drops. We were both skeptical of how Selena would hold her own with Martin Short and Steve Martin. We’ve both been pleasantly surprised and enjoyed her work on the show. I don’t have a strong opinion on her otherwise. Her music is hit or miss for me but that’s about it.

[@kiaraburch2935]

yeah I think most ppl who aren’t stand don’t really follow her outside of her work bc it seems like old petty drama, but recently celebs in general have been under more scrutiny of their public image and politics

[@bbyghostie1044]

Ngl I thought there was going to be some bigger drama I never heard of in this video. But all of it seems like inconsequential or personal friendship drama. Only exception being comments on the Israel/Palestine conflict. But a milquetoast comment appealing to peace without making a firm statement in support of either side is just to be expected of celebs. It's frustrating, but it's not uniquely awful or anything. Never been a Selena fan or Hailey or Bieber fan. So I have no investment on any side of this drama. As an outsider, my opinion on Selena after this video is basically neutral lol

[@jadeblackwell6227]

I feel like Selena could’ve done more with her acting career. I don’t understand why she spent so much time making music.

[@nordianabintiramli8050]

Well let's separate her career with her behaviour. Someone could be talented as f but a piece of shit of a person in real life.

[@erikdaniels0n]

@@jadeblackwell6227100% this

[@vivalasammm]

One thing you forgot to mention and most people forget about Selena Gomez is that she has bipolar disorder. I have it too and none of this behavior surprises me, the girl can be clearly unhinged, deff must be going through a period of mania.

[@chrissis1944]

This is why she shouldn’t be on tik tok that much, she has a very addictive personality (she said this herself), her team is not helping her because this is not helping her mental health.

[@augustop3647]

She treats her BD (meds and therapy) so she should not have frequent mania periods

[@vivalasammm]

@@chrissis1944 i agree, if i were her i would've quit social media a long time ago for my own mental health.

[@vivalasammm]

@@augustop3647 unfortunately even when u take meds and go to therapy, ur still gonna have bipolar symptoms every now and then.

[@sherenehenry9991]

​@@augustop3647that does not mean she dont get them.

[@originaozz]

Part of me thinks she really did raised awareness on a lot of vulnerable issues such as mental illness. A bigger part of me really, really hates how she set the trend sensationilizing those issues. Probably gonna get attack for this, but whether it's 13RY or how she (over)shares about it to gain media attraction, it all feels hollow.

[@babylonl21]

What if all this time Selena Gomez is just the friends we make along the way

[@Anewevisual]

Zzzzzz joke

[@abbied]

What? 😩😂

[@simonah4911]

they only make more money thanks to these dramas

[@Koopatroop5421]

If theses are the biggest scandals she's been apart of in the last 15 years, I think she's doing fine. These are very tame issues , some of which happened when she was a teenager. She seems very unproblematic in all honesty.

[@HiproOnverse]

Right? People are so hateful lol

[@NaticzkaKaminskaHenryDolphin]

This internet/Instagram drama is not for me, just like one of the commenters below already wrote, for me too, the very fact that young fans/young people care and are involved in the personal lives of their favorite celebrities to the point that they argue and hate because Selena said this or that about Hailey, and Hailey is with Justin, and Selena used to be with him, etc - this whole personal drama is pathetic, immature and perfectly reflects the complete collapse of modern culture. First, people need to stop obsessing over celebrities and having parasocial relationships with them. But the most important thing - and this is where this whole problem comes from - is that people today generally put on a pedestal those who don't deserve it! Who is Selena? I'm sorry, but she is a complete mediocrity both in the sphere of music and acting, and she managed to be on top and gain fortune and fame only because today the media, and consequently people manipulated and brainwashed by the media, reward and like mediocrity. I can't think of any of Selena's songs that are unforgettable or of really great quality in terms of singing, music, or lyrics, something in the category of the masterpiece like 'Back to Black' by Amy Winehouse, 'Like a Virgin' by Madonna or 'Someone like you' ' by Adele, it just doesn't exist, because Selena is actually a very poor singer, and she is not an artist, just a marketing product for whom others write songs, she only has to package them nicely and present them, because she is a product of mass, low culture, not a real artist. The same goes for her acting. I can't remember a single role she was amazing or good in, her last show, The Only Murders in the Building is overall solid quality, but the truth is that the whole story is based on Steve Martin& Marty Short's ideas and creative process, and Selena is another pretty face there, that could easily be replaced by many other actresses. This is the problem for me with many young celebrities today who have become famous and earn millions, but actually have no talent, yet for some reason, they are worshiped. In the past, we really had better actors and better musicians, people who reached this level of fame really deserved it. Since the millennium, more and more of the so-called art in the sphere of pop culture has been in the hands of bland, talentless fools. Really, people, go outside, work on your own life, and stop simping for brainless, talentless celebs who don't deserve your money, your attention, and your energy.

[@aleeh2109]

I have always found Selena to be so insanely problematic but she constantly gets a pass.. idk if she has or her fans have curated this huge victim persona that always gets with the short end of the stick. Justin got married? Poor Selena. Abel got left by her and went back to his ex? Somehow also poor Selena. Hailey doesn’t have have to say her name but somehow she gets dragged for weeks. I never understood the lore, truly. And I think the way her fans treated Bella Hadid was nasty when Bella truly has never spoken about her.

[@danaalexander4691]

Selena has opened up too much about her life and inner self - so many of her fans felt instantly entitled to be her friends. But that comes as a cost to her peace and privacy - she has become a constant topic on the Internet and social media and she broke popularity records. But her great popularity and her fans gave motivation to media, envious 'friends' and enemies to increase their own online popularity by posting negative comments and even fabricated stories about Selena. Selena has over-exposed herself to over-consumption of herself as an online product. And she cannot distance herself easily now when she is about to release a new album and has contractual obligations to promote it. This is not good for any person and especially not for a person with a compromised health. Hopefully, in 2024 she will for her own wellbeing take a well deserved and overdue break to enjoy a slower pace life away from the spotlights.

[@SarcasticallyBlessed]

Fwiw, my friend’s mom donated a kidney and in the counseling appointments leading up they said that many people who were close to begin with end up drifting apart after the surgery. Not saying that shady stuff didn’t happen, but it might be more common than we’d think 🤷🏼‍♀️

[@TheEagleEnigma]

if i was famous id just have my comments turned off or limited permanently on everything. i know that’s probably an unpopular opinion but half the reason some of these celebs are so unhinged is because of the absolutely constant amount of feedback/hate/creeping stanning they get on anything they post, hence why she behaves this way lol

[@brandonjohnson633]

It worked for Taylor Swift. These days she mostly uses her socials for promotion and the occasional funny TikTok video

[@squidthing]

Unfortunately its not realistic for a lot of entertainers to do that. Most celebs keep them on even when they are getting dragged to hell and back because comments are used to measure engagement and negotiate more money for brand deals etc. Even big names rely on those deals to pay their bills/staff members salaries.

[@LeilaleilaZ]

I get upset about a rumour of someone disliking me, I'd drive myself mad if I had to read all those nasty comments about me every single day

[@LightestKing]

Selena's downfall is the most satisfying I've seen in a while, she got by for years throwing rocks and then hiding her hands but now people are realizing she's always been a apart of, if not, the problem.

[@aygunsahin1586]

what did she ever do to you? just curious?

[@lauraboredom2168]

girl please go outside and touch some grass

[@sherenehenry9991]

People like you are the problem. I take no pleasure in anyone's downfall...not even my enemies. For you to be rejoicing means you dance with the 😈. Your not the better person. I dont agree with many things she has done but I know when the 😈 is at work. Most times he gets the best of all of us, but it's our duty to rebuke him and try to be a better person. FYI... many rocks have been thrown at her too...in fact people are still throwing rocks and hiding their hands...your delusional if you think its one sided. It's a part of bigger story that YOU don't understand judging from your comments. Hollywood is all about energy reaping/harvesting and SG has one of the biggest energies out there. It's her gift and no matter how much you and the devil's rejects hate her, you can't take away what God has given her. She is slowly coming into her own with her gifts and finding creative ways to give back.There is a war going on behind the scenes by entities you cannot see for her energies. She and Justin are golden ducks under the right entities. Girl most of you on social media are blind to what is truly spiritually going on. Unknowingly to you, your energies are all being manipulated and weaponized.

[@jyn88]

It is satisfying for me because it opened up people's eyes. They finally woke up. However, I don't think Selena deserves the downfall. She is still the same person. Some fans might have put her on a pedestal but it's not her fault. She never claimed to be perfect or an Angel. True/loyal fans should love her through thick and thin, good and bad, flaws and all. This doesn't change the way I feel about her since I already noticed this side to her. I am not shocked.

[@LightestKing]

​@@sherenehenry9991 girl it is not that serious and God and the devil don't exist 🙄

[@MertayEfeoglu]

Hi, Kayla. I discovered this channel few days ago and i liked the " How The Internet Fell Out Of Love " series. I have a new recommendation for this series, Tiffany Haddish. She blew up in 2018 with Girls Trip movie, was everyone's favorite female comedian for a brief period but she has done some fucked up shit.

[@sachinalani]

hey i just wanted to say thank you for actually talking about what she said about Palestine! makes me respect you so much as a creator especially as someone who mainly covers pop culture stuff/celebrity deep dives, i wouldn't expect it but i really appreciate it just on a human level!!

[@urmom4618]

yawn

[@nandimkhize1495]

didn't yall try and do the same with Taylor, saying she plays victim, only writing about her exes paint her in a bad light? never admitting she's wrong. she jokes about being single cause everyone ships her with every male celebrity saying she's dating this person. i feel for her, she's tired of being bullied by the media constantly, who hasn't had falling outs with friends??? fights. she's not the only one, people put celebrities on the highest of pedestals just to tear them down. it was trendy to hate on Tay now it's trendy to hate on Sel.

[@coqui9879]

i woke up this morning to tweets of her getting dragged so this was a well-timed video

[@sybill123ful]

she was being memed lmao, the only person i saw dragging her also made a post saying tory lanes should be freed cause nicki “dissed” megan the stallion 💀

[@rowluna6400]

Selena is talented and charismatic actress. Social media just destroys the magic makes her more human.

[@aldogrof6700]

I agree

[@frmapletrees]

as somebody who adores selena, i do have to admit some of her recent behaviour (eg. commenting on posts) has been cringe worthy. i think it all started with her coming back to instagram this year. before, her team would manage her account meaning we wouldn’t see much of her personality outside of just promotional posts. idk cuz even before this year i would say she was mostly super likeable

[@ZephyrinSkies]

I guess this is just the real her revealed without the careful curation of a PR team

[@xoxdesire]

She needs to go back to having her team post for her. It sucks that fans don't get that connection but she keeps digging a deeper hole for herself. I think she should turn off her comments or have it where ppl she follows are the only that can comment that way she stays out of mess but then shes commenting on random fan posts so idk.

[@jk3253]

Why the fuck would anyone /want/ some random celebrity to comment on Israel/Palestine?? Surely, vague disinterest is preferable to thinking that her own thoughts on global issues is actually meaningful? I’m not a Selena-Stan, I just don’t get why people care about her vague platitudes

[@ayadhyist]

She’s a UNICEF ambassador.

[@shamziel]

What exactly do yall expect her to say about Palestine? Is she capable of ending a conflict of more than half a century?

[@user-rv7ge1tc4l]

No they are just in desperate need of touching grass

[@every4th]

Honestly, eh. The internet fell out of love with her in 2016, 2018, 2021, and now. Just like they do with every other celebrity or influencer out there. The tides are always turning and people are fickle. The cycle will continue with someone else and we’ll be back here again.

[@jenniferc.d.5775]

If I were a celeb I wouldn't speak up about Palestine. Remember the backlash that Gigi Hadid received when expressing her support for Palestine even tho she is half Palestinian??

[@mfuentes4961]

Damn you’re so fast to make commentary on the most current situations on social media.

[@АнастасияШапоренко-к9д]

I feel like this video demonizes Selena for just being a common person. It kinda predisposes that she supposed to be perfect human being great and caring for everybody's needs before her own - why tho? maybe it's us who need to stop looking at celebs like they are different kind? and take them for just people as they are?

[@C_M_R]

Good video. However, I always find it strange that with all the research KZbinrs do for their videos --- (11:23) they never take the time to figure how to pronounce someones name.

[@kaylasays]

No this is fair, it’s my bad, I wrote the script and then read it cold a little later on and forgot to put a pronouncer in there. Didn’t have much time to re-record so I left it in, but you’re right, I should make that a priority. Appreciate the feedback and thanks for watching!

[@zainmudassir2964]

​@@kaylasayshope HBomberguy doesn't feature you in his next video over this 😨

[@lindasantos1651]

Why look up to celebrities about controversial topics and their opinions? Who sell lipgloss or clothings? Selena's point was that she wants peace in the world PERIOD! Unfortunately she cannot stop a war!

[@MrBeetlejuice16]

The "I'm single" thing reminds me of my sister. She's the same age as Selena and she's been making her relationship status a big part of her personality, but I honestly think it's a coping mechanism from society's expectations of someone her age. Like, yeah it's a little cringy, but I know how people constantly nag and ask my sister about her dating life, making it sound like she has failed somehow for being single in her 30s, especially because she is a woman, and the biological clock is starting to tick. I can imagine Selena has gotten a lot of the same treatment, especially as a famous person, and I can understand how you can get a little defensive after a while. Is it annoying, yes, does it hurt anyone, no.

[@Damonxoxo]

With her crying over being 'single' since 2018 makes me think she's not over Justin and believe she would take him should he divorce Hailey and come to her.

[@santiagoramones]

I love this series! Might I suggest: Seth Macfarlane? I feel like his shows were the face of culture and comedy and then a switch flipped and everyone unanimously decided his stuff wasn't funny anymore.

[@renaissancewoman3770]

Alexa Nicholas has entered the chat.

[@smithsunleashed]

how is she related to seth?@@renaissancewoman3770

[@Ohsvm]

The part that I can’t seem to get is she was sharing so much about her journey finding God and the love for herself. Did that just go out the door? A lot of things she’s doing recently is not something a person who’s devoted to God would do, especially arguing with people online and supporting bullying.

[@biancaportillo6552]

she comes from a religious Mexican Catholic family and literally was one of those Disney kids that had purity rings. im pretty sure she’s just a religious person.

[@anafano1613]

On 13:08 I also think is ridiculous how ppl don't know what a "pick me" is. A pick me girl is a girl with internalized misogyny who puts other women down in favor of male validation, that is all. Selena's behavior online is not pick me at all, if just childish and a little cringey. People need to know a word's definition instead of just throwing it around or it will lose its meaning. Selena Gomez is not a pick me girl, she is simply looking for validation on the internet.

[@Lalamary2266]

Her behavior is definitely desperate and cringeworthy, but not exactly pick me. It’s normal to want to be in love and to have a romantic relationship, but expressing it online in the manner she does has given me secondhand embarrassment. I still prefer her behavior over actual pick me’s who reinforce misogynistic ideals onto other women for male validation.

[@wellactually.]

I don't really think it's any celebrities place to make a public opinion about Palestine or politics... Too many stans will blindly follow the celebrities opinion and thats not a good thing. What's happening is terrible but it's not their place

[@Hooshiro]

I've got a idea of your next video. Can you do a video about Matty Healy from the 1975? He's got so much controversy that it's hard to keep up with his band

[@ninaninafishgirl]

would love to see this, i enjoy the music but that’s about all the engagement i have with the 1975 & matty

[@biancaportillo6552]

the people who don’t like this woman bc they love her adversary are annoying. i really sympathize with selena because of her early fame, her lupus, her public mental health issues. i think she has lived a turbulent life and a lot of it was public. i can’t imagine some of the worst days of my life being criticized and celebrated as a worthy downfall. i think she has a lot of growing to do, she needs to let go of social media, and she needs to let go of some grudges and trauma. she has a lot going for her but at the end of the day growing as a person should be on her priority list.

[@mirelsandu1835]

Some things I can agree with cause people are not perfect. But there are certain aspects I cannot understand such as being judged for being single and expressing yourself about it. For example I've been single as well for 4 years and I say it out loud, I make jokes about it, but I don't feel that this makes me a pick me, it's just my current state and experience. People that show off their relationships online or in front of other people should be as well considered pick me's? Some things are too much looked into, and I guess it's normal since they are public figures, but it's so tiring for the overall message that comes across for the people that consume social media to have all these ideas of what you should do or not do based on what the celebrities are experiencing online. It translates in the day to day conversations in an overstimulating and confusing way at times. This was just an example of how these concepts such as pick me, someone being entirely good or bad or all the other boxes really get weird nuances from which nobody understands anything anymore when these type of things are getting hyped up.

[@whatcolorjunebug]

I'm genuinely confused about the "pick me behavior" thing, when the it just seems to be her talking about being single. I've never heard of complaining about being single being a "pick me" behavior or even "not like other girls." Tons of other girls are single, so going on and on about being single isn't saying you aren't like other girls? I get that it could be boring and repetitive and even annoying to people, but I don't understand how that's a pick me thing? Has the term pick me evolved to include just complaining about being single and talking about wanting to be in a relationship? I thought the "pick me" thing was to act too "cool" for that, like "all girls are obsessed with wanting to be in a relationship but I'm DIFFERENT and just like having fun with the boys!" (where the pick me part is that she isn't being genuine and does actually want one of those boys to date her). Like, is Cathy from the comic a pick me now because she always whines about being single??? Disclaimer: I'm not a stan for any of the people mentioned in the video. So I'm not offended on Selena's behalf, I just don't understand this use of the term.

[@katherineraquelle1930]

Tbh the celebrities I grew up watching before Covid… I am now glad to see they’re getting put in their place lmao 😂 it’s now time for the celebrities who know what it’s like to come out of REAL LIFE hardships… and who are actually friendly and sweet not the other way around lmao I’m a regular person all these years but come to find out in 2020 I’m now Raquelle from Barbie as a human 😊 hey everybody get a load of me! 💜

[@Dash120z]

Selena Gomez mask finally fell off, she can't simply play the "victim" forever, it's about time people saw her through who she really is.

[@brandonjohnson633]

Update: she’s back on Insta. She commented under Ariana Grande’s post

[@isabellenakahara2269]

I agree with everything you said. I do think fans online read into everything way too much, inevitably starting drama. I think Selena heavily relies/depends on what is said about her and when things don't really go her way, she starts to spiral. She also seems to take everything said to heart and has a sort of combo of a victim and martyr complex. She truly needs to take a real break from social media and just hand things related to her brand over to her team.

[@chrissis1944]

She knows that her only saving grace is her fans, otherwise she wouldn’t be under the spotlight to this day 😭😭

[@snowiecone]

I feel it’s not so much of a controversy that Selena Gomez and Demi fell apart, they just realised they didn’t have a mutual connection other then growing up doing similar shows together and that’s how they fell apart, it’s nothing to get angry about or start fights with others about. If we start looking at using other words and delving deeper into the truth of the matter, even Demi said it herself we just drifted apart, and it’s okay too find out that you don’t share similar interest with others. Demi was going through a lot at that time and I feel her anger just got the best of her when she was asked how is Selena.

[@snowiecone]

Also when are we gonna stop looking for drama like with the Hayley Baldwin song she played, she could just like that song doesn’t mean that she is attacking her. But I agree their is a lot behind the scene that might happen that we don’t know about, but I think the song is just taking a bit far.

[@snowiecone]

I feel it’s nothing more then people wanting and looking for drama to happen

[@SamDavidJr]

The thing that gets on my nerves, though, is that a lot of y’all (fans, media, and influencers) stayed gassing that “beef” along WITH HER, lmao. So, it’s aggravating to see y’all turn on her and pick her apart, when y’all were right there along with her CONSTANTLY harassing Hailey with the shit, lmao. So it’s natural that MAYBE she felt y’all wanted to see her act that way towards the former relationship, because y’all coddled and egged her on through it.

[@lauraboredom2168]

i mean Max Ehrich was and still is OBSESSED with Selena i'm still not over him PROPOSING TO DEMI ON SELENA'S BIRTHDAY he still likes and comments on selena's posts to THIS DAY the receipts were true i saw them in real time, max tweets saying he wanted to fight justin bieber for selena, calling selena his WIFE, etc even tweets shading demi saying he prefered Selena's voice to Demi SCREAMING i couldn't believe my eyes and wanted demi far far far away from him he would ask people to tag selena on his posts, to make edits of him and selena together and he even doxxed his own number on a selena ig livestream he is beyong creepy and weird i need him far far away from selena and demi

[@MVK123]

SLOAN tells it best

[@maddyG7414]

Celebrity idolization is the real problem imo. People forget that these are human beings, with dozens of flaws and dark sides. We all have them, celebrities just have the world watching.

[@doctorposting]

bruhhh if we have to listen to married girlies constantly talk about their crustyass husbands, they can listen to us talk about being single 💫

[@justjoannak]

Personally prefer Selena's acting ( her music is too mixed for me) but yeah, her stuff with Hailey Bieber + Demi Lovato made me kinda annoyed. Demi is not the biggest supporter of women from what I've seen + has done other problematic things so I don't fully blame Selena for that particular situation. Selena & Hailey's drama, I do blame for Selena for her part and she should be held accountable for it. I'm more so mad about her treatment of Francisa. Like, she gave you an *ORGAN* ?! Plus, if the rumors about Selena drinking after the donation was done are true, that's even more messed up

[@lauraboredom2168]

the rumors were just that rumors and Francia has debunked all the weird lies regarding HER choice to donate her kidney demi and selena just grew apart and selena has always shown demi love even after they stopped being friends and the hailey situation was just a mess in general people took it really far but she did defend her and has defended hailey multiple times before everything skyrocketed, she cant control how other people act

[@Mamtaa-lg2pt]

Finally people are seeing her true colors 🎉

[@Durararararar]

Yes makes me so happyyy finally

[@wetsock7790]

Every time theres a new controversy surrounding her i think about that one clip of brooke valentine saying ,,you 38 years old how long you gon be doing this"

[@mhost8147]

Selena are the kind of people that may be 2 faced, I know someone like that irl and trust me, you'll never know what's coming, since she was only targeting me. No one, absolutely no one trusted me back in those year, that she IS a pick me and always copies me and always play dumb, cause it's cute

[@dinaf.k5372]

What happened?

[@claireeckert7260]

Like just have a just have a burner account like I don’t understand why celebrities don’t do this

[@yeseniabracamontes3787]

I saw on a TikTok video that her impact organization is not charity but pretends to be it so she can be exempt from taxes. They work with fund of hope which is a fiscal corporation that is not really charity. She’s a tax thieve.

[@CalamityCannon]

7:20 "human Chipotle bag" is a very fun and funny turn of phrase

[@felinetherapy4782]

I like her. I think she's messed up but I don't know how she couldn't be growing up like that, compounded by mental illness.

[@thebakingvet]

Understandable, have a nice day

[@Ninjaned]

💯

[@Mia15239]

yeah ppl hating and judging. . they gona get what's coming for them with the measuring stick they used on others. won't be a pretty lesson to endure but such is life for a-holes.

[@womansrights6068]

Why Nobody Is Talking About The Fact That She Worked With Woody Allen?

[@Gman1998]

As far as the controversies she's been in recently they all could've been avoided if she wasn't constantly online. Also I feel like it's always the people who have to announce they're taking a break from social media who go right back to posting after like 2 days lol

[@Usermeee691]

The kidney donor, Francesca, had a lot of interviews within which she said that Selena basically ambushed her into donating her kidney and then just made up excuses to cut her off. She also is all the time interacting with content on social media that bashes other women including Hailey so yeah I don't think we should credit her and her cheesy stories that tell her fans not to hate on Hailey when she's simultaneously fueling the drama. She's also all the time referring to her relationship with Justin for absolute no other reason than clout. She could be asked about the weather and she'll come up with something to say about him while making sure to portray herself as the damaged, hut party who wants nothing but the best for him and his wife...... I used to be a big fan of hers but honestly seems like I grew up and she didn't she's just so cringe most of the time she just won't let what happened in 2010 stay there