How The Internet Fell Out of Love With Ariana Grande

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0:00 Intro
1:16 Sponsored by RocketMoney!
2:33 Cat Valentine, The People's Princess
3:54 Yours Truly, My Everything
4:29 Donut Gate
5:56 Dangerous Woman
6:53 Sweetner, thank u next
8:43 Blackfishing Allegations
10:16 It's About to Get Messy
13:00 It's Messy Now
14:52 yes, and?
16:55 The Final Analysis
Ariana Grande’s “Yes, And?” debuts at No. 1 on both the Billboard Global 200 and Billboard Global Excl. U.S. charts. Grande earns her third leader on the former and her second on the latter.The song is the lead single from Grande’s seventh studio album, Eternal Sunshine, due March 8 (as announced Jan. 17).Ariana Grande is being labeled a “homewrecker” following the release of her new single, “Yes, And?”In the song, she addressed the backlash she received after she began dating Ethan Slater by telling fans to mind their business.“Say that s-t with your chest, keep moving like, ‘What’s next? Yes, and?'” she sings.“Your business is yours, and mine is mine,” the lyrics go on. “Why do you care so much whose d-k I ride?”Fans answered the 30-year-old pop star’s question by immediately taking to social media to tear apart her relationship, which they theorize started before Slater, 31, broke up with his estranged wife, Lilly Jay.

[@kaylasays]

Hello! This video is leaving the circle so I figured I’d clarify a few things based on some comments I’ve been seeing. 1) I absolutely can acknowledge that Ethan is as much to blame here as Ariana, I didn’t even realize “homewrecking” was a term used specifically for women tbh. They are both at fault here. Tbh I don’t really like discussing celebrity relationships (or anyone’s relationship really) so I’m not comfortable talking about it in a nuanced way I guess, sorry if I missed the mark there 😅 2) Regarding the statement made by Ethan’s wife about the situation, I should’ve def included that for context but I missed it during my research. Either way though I think it doesn’t do much to pacify the cheating rumors considering that I highly doubt she would’ve come out and been like “yes this happened.” It’s embarrassing enough for her, you know? 3) okay one more edit, I don’t fuck with body shaming Ariana or anybody else, so those comments will be deleted just fyi Thanks for watching, if you’re new here, I hope you like my content. This series is always tough because there’s a lot of research to gather and I am just one person so there will always be room to grow and learn. Appreciate your attention!

[@maevewashere_]

this is very underrated! gj

[@ashleysullivan6398]

there are so many more problematic men out there. can you do a video on Justin Timberlake?

[@nani-hi8de]

great video! i agree with all of your points, i feel like most people don't talk about ethan even though he's equal to blame because people know ariana better. i don't see it as a misogyny thing. i can't imagine going after a married man who has a pregnant wife. that's vile

[@mariajosepulido3029]

What severely bothers me is how smugly her fans are defending her all because she said that the rumors where false because herself said so, 6 months after the rumors came out. Ariana had half a year to disprove the rumors but instead she decided to do it days before the release of her new song with out evidence. And during those 6 months, a handful of ex girlfriends from Ariana past boyfriends have come out to say that Ariana is a home wrecker with a handful of evidence. This women disgust me and it's honestly alarming that she feel zero remorse for what she did and has done

[@user-rv7ge1tc4l]

@@mariajosepulido3029 it is crazy how there are so many messed up things happening in the world, yet you are so disgusted by a random millionaire's personal dating life 😭i like her music but genuinely who cares

[@FAB13]

Most 22 year olds would NEVER spit on food for sale.

[@juannaym8488]

I wouldn't have done that as a 12 year old. I don't think I would've ever done that

[@ok-zb3sf]

im 16 and could never act like that

[@Adele5554]

I always thought she was a psychopath. The way she hurts people with 0 empathy.

[@Zarab923]

Most people don’t spit on food as children 😂 I’ve never met a person who would spit on donuts to protest obesity because that is psychotic behavior lol

[@emersyn444]

respect us! 😭

[@ellefantine]

22 is OLD enough to know better

[@Ruhrohraggy23345]

Im 20 and i 100% agree.

[@RandomSwiftie13]

Yep. I had started working right away at that time.

[@RuthArmenta]

Shut tf up, it’s not about the age, it’s about common sense. A normal and sane 10 year old would never lick a mf donut on a donut shop, for example. Think about it :)

[@lordfreerealestate8302]

Hell, even 18 is old enough. But spoiled rich people gonna spoiled rich person.

[@nope5657]

13 is old enough to know better...

[@soteriakolivoski6530]

there was one guy on tiktok who basically argued that ariana grande is a spoiled person who has never been told "no" in her life and thats why she feels entitled to spit on donuts, entitled to appropriate cultures as she pleases, and entitled to other people's spouses. i really think he hit the nail on the head with that one.

[@Niviari23]

from that perspective "I want I got it" 7 rings didnt well either now

[@imthebossmermaid3648]

Link? I wanna watch that video too! 😁

[@j.a4196]

I don't think the cultural appropriation thing is because she has always been a brat. I think she's insecure, so she tries to hide behind all these different attitudes, her looks, voice changes, innocent and sexy attitude at the same time, relationships, etc.

[@imthebossmermaid3648]

@@j.a4196 Or maybe she's just racist and disrespectful.

[@hotgirljasmine]

what’s the tik tok @?

[@persephone3309]

I feel like people were willing to overlook her actions because she has that sort of innocent look, combined with her success, her lack of certain controversy/scandals (no substance abuse, no mental health problems, eating disorder, abuse experiences etc)

[@bonjourputas]

I think she has gotten away with the innocent act but ruining a marriage is too far. The masses don't tolerate infidelity or home wrecking.

[@ioliXD]

I mean she's even written songs about her anxiety disorder and she probably has an eating disorder too

[@charmedreincarnation748]

@@ioliXDshe said she doesn’t have one. But she does have anxiety we need to stop diagnosing grown ass ppl on the internet

[@mmmissmiss3356]

she was definitely anorexic she had tumblr-esque thinspo photos of her thigh gaps posted back in the day pretty often

[@seggyyy]

She has anxiety and ptsd

[@RBNinja]

Man, the number of people I had to tell that Ariana Grande wasn't black. It was more than one.

[@falconeshield]

Wasn't she Asian Italian once?

[@Luneland]

​@@falconeshieldI remember when she was being called arigato grande hahahahhahahaaha

[@sita9071]

My dad thought she was Mexican and was surprised when I told him she wasn't.

[@tbam73]

I hope you are no longer friends with those people

[@Augustine0899]

for the longest time i thought she was latina 😭😭

[@JayJay-17]

I think one thing to take note of that wasn’t mentioned in the video, is the affair highlighted how Ariana has a pattern/history of starting off as the other woman in multiple relationships. That realization for people definitely had an impact on how people viewed the affair and her as it showed a pattern of behavior rather than a “mistake”.

[@grimwithgabby3754]

I guess that breakup with your girlfriend song was true to life for her 🫠

[@realestsienna]

debunked btw

[@JayJay-17]

@@grimwithgabby3754 I always thought it was a weird song but I heard somewhere (can’t remember exactly) it had another meaning and I shouldn’t take the song at face value so dismissed the ickiness I felt about it

[@pettylisa5599]

@@JayJay-17 the song is about self-love. She's saying, "Break up with your girlfriend (i.e. me) cuz I'm bored... of our relationship."

[@fluffyplushie16]

@@realestsiennathey weren’t

[@studyoasis]

Another repeated pattern of her (in addition to being "the other woman" of taken men) is that almost all her relationships stemmed from collaborating for work. Nathan Sykes, Mac Miller, Big Sean all featured in her songs, while she met Pete Davidson on SNL saying "he was super hot" "I knew 100% I would marry him first time I saw him" when she was on/off with Mac Miller. Even Dalton, who worked as a realtor for her. Now, she's dating her co-worker Ethan Slater who's was married/just had a kid. It's definitely some time of infatuation problem where Ariana feels super powerful getting these men (who are less popular/wealthy than her) in a professional work environment.

[@xCindyLouWhox]

Very interesting, very good point!

[@cloudmellow8521]

FINALLY!! I'm so glad you brought up what she said about Pete Davison when she worked with him for the first time. I hate hate hate how she had to bring up Mac Millers business about his drug addiction, just because she couldn’t handle the criticism, and she turned it into people hating her because she is a woman. She always does this. I've been her fan since debut but when she started dating Pete Davison I began to dislike her. I know she had every right to date whoever she wanted after breaking up with Mac Miller but the way she went about it was so bizarre and narcissistic. She flaunted her relationship back and forth and made cringey posts and comments about Pete like right after she broke up with Mac who she was in a relationship with for 2 years. Saying she knew she would marry Pete the first time she saw him, which she met him in 2014 btw, I just cant imagine being Mac and hearing this on live television especially knowing they dated for 2 years and she moved on like nothing. Then they get engaged not even 3 months later. That whole era she was just embarrassing. Ariana has this recurrent pattern of not being able to take accountability and thinking everyone is just hating her choices because she is a woman which is so outdated. What can you expect from a snobby rich artist who grew up being rich since the beginning. She has talent but her talent and opportunities are a product of her rich parents, that why she will never take any accountability and why she keeps getting away with everything.

[@Diana-mu7pc]

@@cloudmellow8521 this is some scholarly ass analysis right here. Thank you.

[@bonjourputas]

​@@cloudmellow8521Wait I didn't know Ariana had rich parents? I thought she was raised by a single mom?

[@leena75]

@@cloudmellow8521 but the sweetener was very good, funny she has a song called pete davidson on it. Her mother is a CEO of ship companies and that i admire since its probably a very men-dominated industry, but she spoiled her daughter for sure and even ariana acknowledge it that she was somehow a mean child

[@yensinha]

she literally wrote songs with lyrics saying "break up with your girlfriend cuz I'm bored" and "you're still together and you just can't tell me why" are people really surprised that she's a homewrecker? bffr she was literally singing about it for years.

[@nic_aya]

No one is surprised, they are holding her accountable now. I'm tired of people saying "what did you expect?" As if they makes her actions any less damaging.

[@lessismore8533]

@@nic_ayaexactly. God I hate celebrity worship

[@Ruhrohraggy23345]

@@lessismore8533Same.

[@MaeRose26]

I stopped listening to Ariana Grande's music after Bang Bang because I just felt something off from her. She never felt genuine. To see all this about Ariana should be shocking but it isn't sadly

[@personontheinternet2164]

People aren’t always what they portray in their music. It’s common in hip hop to talk about killing people even if the artist has never seen a gun.

[@cucapuppy]

The creepiest thing about the whole homewreckter thing is how Ariana would have dinners with his wife and talk about wanting to have a family while at the same time secretly talking with her husband. Also does anyone notice how she changes her personality to emulate the the other women in the relationships? Shes a creep

[@jimbob2427]

And u know this because…

[@cucapuppy]

@@jimbob2427 Its literally everywhere be serious

[@user-fy1ox8lu7x]

@@cucapuppythe classic “I read it online so it must be true” response

[@cucapuppy]

@@user-fy1ox8lu7x Ur delusional, theres literally photos of them having dinner together but keep denying it x

[@seraanne6987]

@@user-fy1ox8lu7x Why do you sheep feel the need to defend a rich celeb that doesn't know or care that you exist. Go outside and get your own life. You're not Ariana.

[@strepsilsaregood4u]

I have no personal attachment to Ariana but her basically saying "yeah, I messed with a married man and am partially responsible for ruining his relationship with his wife. So what?" is wild like, you could not waterboard this out of me, let alone I willingly air this out to the world.

[@jimbob2427]

Yeah that’s not what the song is saying if u watched the video

[@Aleberrylarry]

@@jimbob2427yes, it is

[@randomwatcher8911]

That’s not what this song is about in the slightest. And why do people think that you know what goes on in her life just because of what some article titles say

[@jimbob2427]

@@Aleberrylarry you obviously skipped the part in the video where it said “well I read it on the internet, so it must be true”.

[@watermelonlover745]

​@@jimbob2427it's lying

[@calamaria9221]

With the donut situation, she definitely had a "I hate the poors" vibe

[@Babezilla]

Is she supposed to love the poors?

[@DuskPShermanWallaby123]

@@Babezillayes, they gave her fame

[@RavensWings11]

​​@@Babezilla Yes, duh. They give celebrities fame. They also have it a million times harder than celebs do; that fact deserves respected

[@violetlaire9987]

@@DuskPShermanWallaby123 doeesnt mean she has to be thankful forever lol

[@kleinsbottle]

@@violetlaire9987 didn't mean she had to hock a loogie on a damn baked good either, but ALAS

[@Karma_616]

she's always been a mean girl, just took the world 10 years to realize lol

[@maryamtara2934]

I never liked her ass

[@imthebossmermaid3648]

@@bluevelvet2 Too far.

[@RavensWings11]

​@@bluevelvet2Yikes. Don't use serious, biblical misogyny terms to refer to a woman who just might not be a great person. That's overkill and inappropriate anyway

[@iheartvicky]

as i checked your youtube profile, it came to my attention you joined youtube 17 years ago. you are decaying, please move on. this is really scary to think that a grown person, an adult, is hating on a celebrity… there are other things to life than worrying about what a celebrity does..

[@imthebossmermaid3648]

@@iheartvicky And yet you're here, having clicked on a video dedicated to a celebrity's controversy. Honestly, what did you expect? For people to cover it up with lies and kisses?

[@firstlast9846]

*How many shitty things can a celebrity do* before people realise “Ayo this person might not be that good a person” and stop pulling the “that was years ago” “yea but-“ excuses?

[@SpankingDisasterSixtyNine]

I just assume all celebrities are likely horrible and just listen to what bangs I can't be bothered to morally evaluate the top earners of an industrial music complex 🤷‍♂️

[@firstlast9846]

@the76thHunter - That’s fair - but the main problem I’m referring to is trying to uphold an image that isn’t true despite the controversies. Like I LOVE Kanye’s music - one of the best artists of all time - but I’m not gonna pretend he’s a saint. Ariana trips and stumbles and people still try to uphold the “innocent girl” image. It’s just not true 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@jimbob2427]

@@firstlast9846Kanye is far worse than Ariana. Plus with Arianas recent controversy it’s just a bunch of words where apparently the news has lied and people are running away with it

[@xfreja]

exactly i stg. people need to stop supporting her tbh

[@AnneettaLife]

@@jimbob2427 doesn’t matter if page six lied about SpongeBob and Ariana. Whether or not, she did wreck her home and her boyfriend’s home, The fact remains, she has been a homewrecker for years. This is not her first time. That’s why people are paying attention now. Naya river warned us. Pete’s Ex Cassie warned us, and apparently so did her ex husband’s ex.

[@MminaMaclang]

I think "yes, and?" really grinds people's gears because it wasn't even like, people make mistakes type of song. It's really a, yeah I did, so what? Like, people wouldn't care whose dick you ride if those people were single. Regardless of whether or not people believe that artists need to be role models, a society's values function by signifying to even its highest powers what is okay and what isn't. So if your fan base isn't okay with this, then they aren't okay with this; don't pretend like the power doesn't come from the fans who buy tickets to your show, because it isn't yours inherently. To top it all off, nobody could be "separate the art from the artist" about this because she literally made a piece about herself now. You couldn't just disengage yourself from the song and focus on her technical vocal talent, and waive off the songwriting as just another song.

[@jimbob2427]

No it dosent seem like the song says yes I did it

[@AGEE_95]

People are probably gonna read it that way because they are inclined to believe she did it no matter what she says. But the intro to the video alone, where one of “critics” literally says “We read it on the internet so it must be true”, is telling you that she didn’t. Not a day it’s revealed that Page Six spread misinformation. I think for most people, before the news dropped, they were fixated on the idea that Ariana got with a married man, while she herself was still married. Now that that has been debunked people want to say “it doesn’t matter, she’s still a home wrecker”. Facts don’t matter to people. Hating someone based on assumptions does. 🤷‍♀️

[@JaredOn_YT]

The only line that really refers to Ethan is the **** i ride lyric. The song is actually about pulling yourself out of bad situations and finding your way back to the light. "yes, and?" is used in this song as a positive affirmation, not a clapback like some Ariana stans have used it on twitter. It's clear in the chorus: "if you find yourself in a dark situation, just turn on your light and be like 'yes, and?' say that with your chest. be your own best friend. keep moving, like 'what's next.'" The GP has only looked at it to be a "people make mistakes song/so what i did it anthem" because of the controversy surrounding her love life. the **** ride lyric is off putting given the controversy of her current relationship, i get it. but we'd be dumb to pretend like that's what the song is fully about.

[@katgreer6113]

​@@Javi577- She's still a bad person bragging about it lmao

[@chrrycola2717]

@@Javi577-ofc a 🗿women would defend her y’all are the queens of never taking accountability for your bad behavior

[@Riu-bw4bl]

“She was immature she was 22” 22??? Like… a full adult?? What? People use age too much for a excuse for bad behavior.

[@evanwallace9296]

She gives very kid who never had to share her toys energy.

[@roy.shrestha]

also like steal other kids' toy

[@princesslady93]

OMG YES! 🤣😂

[@omnoms2445]

Also the "I-don't-need-that-toy-but-I-want-it-because-you-have-it" kinda vibe.

[@chelseataylor5244]

She doesn’t seem like she’s a great person. It’s strange to me that people think anyone that rich and that far removed from “normal” life would be. On another note Ethan’s resemblance to Frankie Grande will never fail to tickle me pink. It’s just too weird 🤣

[@vanessabutera4385]

So true. Yeah the latter is pretty weird. And her brother is WAY better looking than Ethan.

[@heathermartin7459]

Same. She doesn’t seem to have very good morals and definitely struggling with some issues like insecurities. I honestly hope she gets help and grows from this

[@bmwjourdandunngoddess6024]

I think people really forget how removed Ariana is from real life. But then I saw how her image and personality (and beauty) contrasted with a rich pretty white woman, it ALL became clear how she stands and is.

[@abbied]

@@heathermartin7459It also looks like she has an eating disorder too

[@abbied]

@@bmwjourdandunngoddess6024So are you saying she’s an example of white privilege then basically I guess? ://

[@Horsesnmorehorses]

I grew up to her and even had a fan account as a child. Despite my music taste changing, I always had a few songs of hers. Idk ever since she posted about how she was the "hardest working 20 something year old" I kinda stopped caring. It's just abundantly clear she was never told no as a child. I'm not her parent. I don't know her in real life. This literally does not affect me. But, it's still a personal/ moral choice to no longer support her.

[@Horsesnmorehorses]

Mind you, you should be doing this with every public figure. I did this with Chris Brown, Marilyn Manson, and pretty much every other celebrity with bad news tied to their name. It's up to you to choose where you'll draw the line. But it's not crazy to simply no longer want to support somebody financially.

[@nadiavazquez]

Nail on the head: "This literally doesn't affect me." I'm not sure why so many people online care so much. Obviously this spans to all celebrities, but this one's backlash seems disproportionate in comparison to other celebs' "wrongdoings" ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@tiahnarodriguez3809]

@@nadiavazquez It’s not. All celebs have been on the chopping block. You probably think Arianna is getting more heat because you don’t remember what other celebs have gone through. On top of that, this drama will one day day pass like it did for all the other celebs.

[@nadiavazquez]

@@tiahnarodriguez3809 yeah i'm not on most social media so i think i'm missing a lot of it. it is obviously pointing to a greater celebrity culture issue

[@scottbuck1572]

@@nadiavazquez She is getting the level of backlash because of who her fans are; they are VERY invested in the idea of her being the fun kind of controversial and have a DEEP aversion to her having actual flaws. So she does something a little toxic = nuclear reactor meltdown

[@roulis640]

I am a firm believer that the Victoria Justice video saying "we can all sing" has been taken wildly out of context

[@jessicajoerndt428]

Yeah, I feel so bad for Victoria at the end of the day. People took that video and trashed her with it when literally Daniela was the first person to acknowledge that more than one person sings all the time. In the video Daniela clearly says that Liz also sings a lot, so it makes sense that Victoria said, I think we all sing. Because they do! People are so mean to her, I hate fan culture. It’s so disgusting.

[@awroolie]

wasn't there also a whole thing where ariana said something shady about "someone she used to work with," ariana stans assumed it was victoria and harassed her over it, and ariana didn't bother to clear up that she was actually talking about someone she worked with on Broadway until much much later?

[@xxxmaysilssss690]

@@awrooliethis is another gripe I have with Grande. Though she didn’t say anyone’s name, she was practically BASKING in the public’s hate for Victoria, and when that ran dry, it was then she revealed that Victoria never bullied her just so no one could turn on her and accuse her of lying. It’s such a shady, mean girl-esque act. She’s always gotten away with this behaviour because of her baby-like image, so it’s good to see her past actions rightfully get called out now.

[@chrishill9197]

@@xxxmaysilssss690 Aha so she was framed. I feel so sorry for Victoria that manipulative brat Ariana made her look bad just so everyone glorify her.

[@chuuu4610]

They *can* all sing though. Victoria isn’t as good of a singer as the others but she certainly sings/performs better than normal people. And tbh… it must have hurt to be alienated by fans/media/the rest of the cast. Victoria was also a 17 year old girl and people were being really mean to her and hating on her for being Tori- a character she didn’t write herself. Not to mention Ariana made a bunch of shady comments giving unsubstantiated hints to fuel hate towards her. Only backtracking YEARS later.

[@chelscara]

I still can’t get over her acting surprised anyone jumps to cheating with her when she literally has a song called “break up with your boyfriend I’m bored” and talks about how true to herself her music is like 🤷🏻🤷🏻

[@Karma_616]

yeah I'm surprised it takes her having a affair with a married man to realize

[@user-gk4bl9nz8f]

thats not even what the song is called... yall rlly know nothing and it shows

[@whateveriguess6211]

@@user-gk4bl9nz8fpoint still stands tho

[@lunarlunna3452]

​@@user-gk4bl9nz8f they got one word wrong babe. I'm assuming youre a child by your channel, so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, but being a homewrecker isn't cool kiddo. hopefully you realize that with age.

[@gonzalomcampos]

buwygib is not a literal song. The meaning of the song is not that, she's talking about herself. Telling herself to break up with her boyfriend so she could be alone with herself and have time to heal (which she didn't hahaha). But yeah that songs has nothing to do with all of this.

[@watermelonlover745]

It was amazing how rude she was to the donut employee. I had a full career at 22

[@rice_frying_shrimp]

so did she... by any metric, she should have been held accountable, but the internet was structured differently then, discourse was different too and this barely left the tabloid bubble until a few years ago when it was resurrected for the sake of a meme.

[@Adele5554]

@@rice_frying_shrimp nah it was pretty big back then. It just eventually got swept under the rug because of how big she became in the music industry. People didn't care because of the hits she was putting out. But this time it's different because the song is so bad that people can't justify her actions anymore.

[@watermelonlover745]

@@rice_frying_shrimp it was about politics. As long as you were left leaning then you weren't "cancelled"

[@Diana-mu7pc]

@@rice_frying_shrimp I agree. I remember the scandal clearly; I was in high school at the time, but it just seemed to me like the kinda lame outrage thing no one except a specific crowd really cared about. The big shock people were really offended by, and that they emphasized, was that she said she hated America (obviously not in the sincere way they meant it, but just a bizarre and rude affection to seeing sugary donuts... at a fucking DONUT SHOP). And this was offensive because for some reason Fox News viewers and other too-proud patriots can't handle a joke. The way that she was rude to the employee and LICKED the merchandise? A health violation? As a non-follower of that controversy at the time, I don't remember people giving nearly as much lip service to *that*, which is so strange to me now. The media painted it as "Ariana Grande says she hates America," and if that were really all that happened, we would've been all right not to give a shit.

[@johnh.mcsaxx3637]

​@@watermelonlover745In my experience, just as often I had heard of people being cancelled because they weren't right-leaning (James Gunn, Paul Feig) or offended that demographic somehow. At least where I live, Fox News and Breitbart are the dominant media outlets, so they typically decide who gets cancelled or not (like they did with that Dylan Mulvaney a while ago).

[@Futurebound_jpg]

Him looking just like her brother is the cherry on the cake 😂 this is so hilarious and embarrassing for her

[@haliee]

just by reading this comment, i can see both spongebob & frankie with the open mouth smile 🤣

[@Karma_616]

so gross

[@astridvvv9662]

I didn't know anything about that until I saw the side by side in this video and actually gasped out loud. Jesus.

[@annes4213]

Yes - it’s a total “ew” vibe

[@lauraboredom2168]

the fact that she has a song called "break up with your girlfriend cause i'm bored" does not help the allegations at all

[@lessismore8533]

Exactly

[@jennifermolinary]

Disappointed for not mentioning her obvious pattern of behavior to ‘home wrecking’. Sure the men have their own fault but she actively seeks men in relationships.

[@user-xr5kp6qz8g]

She has a reputation of getting with men who are taken and being the "Third woman", getting the man and then dumping him and going on to the next guy. She was always a mess, it was just glossed over for years

[@MosesSuppose]

Are the men not at all responsible for their actions?

[@cz2188]

@@MosesSupposethe men are not as famous as her so ofc ppl aren’t gonna talk about them. Also some (some) of them don’t have as much of a history with cheating and affairs as her

[@katgreer6113]

​@@MosesSupposeofc they are.

[@juannaym8488]

@@MosesSuppose yeah but so is she

[@Slayyyaphine]

​@@juannaym8488she is only responsible for her own actions not theirs and it takes 2 to tangle

[@rbcbcs]

the "yes, I'm a homewrecker, and?" it's just what jennette mccurdy warned us about in the Gloriana skit: she is the "my life is perfect, I never been better" girl... so sad, this mentality will never let her grow from her mistakes

[@Turtlelover8888]

jenette was jealous of ariana she even admitted that hence "my life is better". they are on good terms now clearly yo didnt read the book

[@red7s156]

Clearly you didn't either, Jennette never said she and Ariana ever became on good terms, just that she was jealous of her for always having all of her success handed to her.​@@Turtlelover8888

[@violetlaire9987]

@@Turtlelover8888 fr

[@kleinsbottle]

@@Turtlelover8888 Nothing they said contradicts whats in J's book though

[@jessicajoerndt428]

@@Turtlelover8888 no, you clearly did not read the book. Jeanette said that she was jealous of Ariana because Ariana was constantly talking about her privilege (she grew up a millionaire) constantly talking about her Music, and all of these things all about herself….Ariana was not very aware of the way that she sounded so privileged, selfish, and quite literally did not give a fuck about the show and constantly left Jeanette working by herself so that she could go off and perform shows. Ariana is a selfish immature person at the end of the day and that’s what Jeanette was upset about. She was envious of the fact that Ariana was getting opportunities and she was a shitty person, versus Jeanette, who was the one with a bad home life and wanted a break.

[@Madinaash]

Ari always craved that male attention. From licking the donut to stealing a whole ass husband 😂😭

[@Karma_616]

daddy issues

[@LindaStansAriAndNicki]

You do realize they cropped out the photo to make it look like Ariana was with Ethan?

[@iheartvicky]

and you crave a viral comment

[@jordynsimmons1107]

wait how is licking a donut craving male attention

[@lessismore8533]

@@LindaStansAriAndNickieither way Ari isn’t innocent that’s what we know

[@kissarococo2459]

Its the creepy way she slithered to the wife praising how lucky she was to have such a great husband and a baby. Disney-villain vibes. Steal the man but do not mock the wife.

[@nenislucio23]

I'm 22 currently, and I damn well know that licking a doughnut at a store that I am NOT buying is completely wrong. It's disgusting! And talking bad abt a country loudly is wrong, obesity is certainly a problem in the USA, but there is a right and wrong way to say that, and Ariana did it wrong. Clearly, even though none of us know Ariana personally, we can see she lacks morals and values. She has demonstrated that over and over again...

[@Slayyyaphine]

​​@@katelynpanter1185oh yeah cause eating 1 donut is gonna make you obese.. What a stupid comment! Irony doesn't equal hypocrisy..

[@itsrainingmelons6202]

@@katelynpanter1185It’s such mean girl behavior

[@emersyn444]

honestly like respect us, we know better than that😭

[@ekinie3854]

im not defending her, but i will say child celebrities mature at a slower rate than normal people. there's a thing that says you stop maturing when you hit the spotlight. as well as celebrities see themselves above the average person which is also an immature view, but that would contribute to her 🤮 licking the donut

[@iheartvicky]

if you are 22 go work on putting that college degree to work

[@rbcbcs]

the girlies that are so hard trying to defend her/say it's fake news... ya'll stole someone's man too??? cause no way if it was you in the situation you would be "slay queen, take the father of my child and let me know when you're done, bye"

[@bphussar]

If it's "fake news", we should be able to speak up about it. Hello? Imagine being accused of something you know you didn't do... Also just FYI in case you missed it, the home-wrecking allegations were proven false. So nice try. Also, Ethan is still very much apart of his child's life. Wow, crazy how that works, right?! No one is denying Lilly's feelings. She can be upset all she wants. But relationships crumble, it just happens.

[@gachathis4858]

@@bphussar oh my god. there's photos receipts history AND ethans wife speaking out. but keep talking out your ass with the hope ari will notice you.🙄 delusional

[@LisaFW]

@@bphussarproven false how? All I can find is the literal divorce documents of his divorce wich states it’s because of cheating. Your source???

[@bphussar]

LOL Cheating?? I would love to see that document since you want to act like you have all the sources. Also, Page Six retracted and backtracked on the allegations. So unfortunately, you are wrong. No home-wrecking or cheating occurred. Sorry!@@LisaFW

[@TheMoodyfire]

its cos ariana grande fans are as delusional as her lmfao

[@kesturrr]

The ariheads in this comment section defending the holy perpetual mistress like rent is due

[@xAgirlfriend]

Why does it matter that they defend her ?

[@iheartvicky]

yes and i will keep defending her from people like you. you are probably a grown person who has graduated high school worrying more about what celebrities do than your social life.

[@MoyaBrennan6825]

@@iheartvicky Don’t you have homework to do, if you’re so young?

[@lessismore8533]

@@iheartvickythis is just another way of saying you can’t handle the truth of ppl saying Ariana is guilty so you change the subject and put the focus on the commenters instead of the VIDEO subject at hand. It’s called deflection

[@chrishill9197]

Ariana Grande has like one of the worst fanbases I have ever seen. Like how tf does she even still have so many fans at this point?

[@andrewl2737]

I always had a bad gut feeling post Victorious about Ariana Grande and honestly feel quite validated after some of the info that has come out. Victoria Justice was basically bullied out of the entertainment industry because of rumors started by Ariana Grande that Victoria was the reason the show ended which I never believed and everyone began using that "we all sing" clip against her when she was making a harmless comment. No, the show did not end because of Victoria Justice, and the reason Victoria Justice hasn't really reconnected with the previous cast was because she was never really that close to them in the first place because she just didn't want to get involved in the underaged drinking and substance use that was encouraged by Dan Schneider.

[@aeoligarlic4024]

And she got casted as the most annoying character of the franchise. Really not helping with her future prospects..

[@andrewl2737]

@@aeoligarlic4024 nah she was literally the most normal character out of everyone which was the whole point of her character. She was the outsider that was accepted into a school full of crazy people.

[@Aster_Risk]

​@@andrewl2737Her character was just as obnoxious and that we all sing clip is not harmless. Arianna Grande obviously sucks far more than Victoria Justice, but I disagree with you on those points.

[@Tomie2030]

Bingo! It’s pretty obvious Ariana and the rest played along with the depravation , Victoria probably didn’t and that’s why she isn’t as famous … Schneider is a closeted pedo they let him play around and then they get the good jobs that’s how it works in Hollywood just remember Weinstein

[@chaosspy6723]

No hate to Victoria but I couldn't stand Tori. Nobody's relationship was safe around her. literally a pg outline that Ariana followed except replace the friend's betrayal with married coworker. I think the writers owe her an apology.

[@ConcertsWu]

I would like a How the Internet Fell Out of Love of Justin Timberlake. Obviously after Britney called him out in her book, and his calculated return this week, it seems fitting to cover him.

[@aeoligarlic4024]

I've been cancelling that guy since i was in elementary school during his days in n'sync! Always knew britney deserved better! That guy always rubbed me off the wrong way. Glad my spidey senses didn't let me down

[@LiliaRose23]

I would love to see that ! But I feel like Justin never had a big internet presence or a big stan community he was just always there lmao we just started noticing his awful actions recently so the internet never really fell in love with him

[@imthebossmermaid3648]

@@aeoligarlic4024 What did he do?

[@kittykittybangbang9367]

Please Kayla do that, especially since Todd miss out on doing a Trainwreck records video on him in 2023. Maybe Todd is waiting for him to become a voice judge? 🤷‍♀️

[@333BYTES]

OMG YES

[@irisalexander]

something funny that i analyzed about ariana while looking through her instagram (while i was high the other night...). i came across a video of her mixing vocals for "yes, and?" ... and it was the line "I'm so done with caring..." what was funny was how she kept playing it back until it was "PERFECT" in her ears... its just ... i don't know ironic because it basically shows .... she does care what people think and she wants it to appear so much that she DOESNT.

[@tiahnarodriguez3809]

She’s always cared. There are videos analyzing why Arianna acts the way she does, and I think some of them make compelling arguments about how Arianna tries to portray herself a certain way, but because it’s not genuine to who she is, we can see her mask slipping and signs that she’s not who she wants us to think she is.

[@Elena_Gilbert44]

@@tiahnarodriguez3809Wait drop name of video please.

[@cloudmellow8521]

she obviously cares she has like 5 songs saying that she doesn’t care what people say and that they dont know her and blah blah just because she cant handle criticism. " you dont know me", " Focus", '"I don't care", "Fake Smile" "Shut up" i think there is more but i cant remember oh and of course her new song " yes and"

[@irisalexander]

@@cloudmellow8521HAHAH no literally what i was thinking.. just too much to type for me😭

[@andreavv3]

that’s just called making music 💀

[@urbanpineapple6427]

Before this whole controversy, I didn’t realize Ariana dated many men who were previously in a relationship and broke up with their girlfriends to be with her. Her breaking up that family was the last straw and I deleted all her songs from my Spotify. Sucks bc her songs are certified bops but as a married woman, I can’t support a homewrecker

[@WillianyAmill]

You did the right thing if you consider that the ingredients of making her bops means she has to throw other women and their vulnerabilities into the path of pain and humiliation. Maybe ... MAYBE innocent humans shouldnt really be exploited and bullied to sell music....

[@TheMoodyfire]

same, i have her blocked on my spotify! too bad it keeps pushing her shit to my main page though

[@urbanpineapple6427]

@@TheMoodyfire for real!! My ears don’t want to listen to home wrecker music

[@chokeonad]

we don’t care

[@urbanpineapple6427]

@@chokeonad lmao hop off the internet, kid

[@ccaatthheerriinnee]

I actually never forgave her for donut gate. Hate on America all you want…but don’t f*** with donuts and donut workers.

[@wheatstonebridge]

Hating on America is ok to you????

[@TheOriginalCK]

​@@wheatstonebridgeI mean, most countries hate America, and understandably so lmao. But licking those donuts is a literal crime, so yes that's obviously worse dude??

[@chokeonad]

that’s embarrassing 😭😭😭 get over it

[@orionlleyessa1306]

😂

[@anniesolomon4876]

​@@chokeonadI think they are joking

[@EmptyColl4ge]

One thing that wasn't mentioned in the video is a probably considered as insignificant to other people but it meant a lot to the art community when it broke out and still stuck to me to this day. Back in 2016, Ariana partnered with Brookstone and released a cat-shaped headphone that copied the exact design of the artist Yuumei (Wenqing Yan)'s Axent Wear. I remembered that the actions were taken, but unfortunately nothing came out of it. As an artist myself, I find it to be gross and disrespectful. I never liked Ariana since.

[@imthebossmermaid3648]

Oh wow that's awful. Sad too. 😔 These things need to stop being overlooked.

[@fiopa27]

I've been a huge fan of Yuumei for years. I remember when this incident happened and I was beyong upset. I was never a fan of Ariana, but this definitely stopped me from listening to her music.

[@novepipps]

I've seen this artist's work and have never heard about this omg

[@ml1065]

AND she stole 7 Rings from Princess Nokia!!!!

[@abi1]

I remember that she had also uploaded drawings and designs that other people made about her to her Instagram, without her having given credit to the artists. It's like she took screenshots and uploaded them, without saying that the artist created it.

[@Rain_boot]

18:57 The worst part is that the bakery ended up getting in trouble for health and safety because of her. She didn't even say sorry to the actual people running the place in her "apology." 😭

[@mimi_user]

my personal feeling and my theory about why this specifically was so bad for her is because it sort of felt like we'd come to a conclusion with the whole thing when she married. for someone like me who was very much tuned-in and also at an impressionable age in 2018, it almost feels like a betrayal to be brought along for her hero's journey of messy relationships and public controversies, climaxing on the terrorist attacks, her tumultous relationship with pete davidson, mac miller's death and just her whole 2018. thank u next felt like her cleansing herself of the past and turning over a new leaf having learnt how to keep her peace and positions felt like a triumph of the place she had come to. so for her to ruin that fantasy for herself and everyone really felt like an unnecessary sequel of bullshit to a very satisfying narrative that we had been there in the trenches to witness. of course she is not solely responsible for the public narrative that was spun around her, but i think it sort of felt like a cash grab sequel to a very good book where the inciting incident is some bullshit the writer pulled out their ass and that the character would never actually be dumb enough to do. it feels like a negation of the growth we thought we had witnessed

[@cardiganweather]

Agree 100%. And in a world where celebrities are more visibly messy than they used to be and everyone is constantly comparing and criticizing each other's faves, I'm sure ari heads felt such a relief to be able to say, "No, that was old Ari. She's matured now. She's self-aware and happy and in a seemingly healthy marriage." I can understand why, parasocially, fans feel betrayed. And the rest of us get to witness a train wreck.

[@xCindyLouWhox]

Totally agree and very good point. It’s just disappointing to hear/watch her say all of this shit about her now ex-husband just to turn around and do all this now?? It does seem like she unlearned quite a few lessons. And dating coworkers usually never ends well….I bet they won’t be together anymore once the Wicked press dies down and so will their feelings for each other. A lot of actors that “fall in love on set” immediately fall out of love when they are no longer in those conditions.

[@luisabolado]

omg yeah, when she said in her thank u next era that she had matured, changed, healed and ready to settle down, i believed it, specially when she finally married dalton and seemed to be in a pretty non-controversial, chill life since then until this whole ethan slater thing

[@naurrr]

this is exactly how I feel too

[@snarkysnoo]

Great way to put it!

[@peterpumpkin7745]

I remember back when Jennette Mccurdy tried to worn us about Ariana and everyone called her jealous and a hater

[@lessismore8533]

Yah true. And though Jennette DID admit she had some jealousy, that doesn’t mean her warnings about Ariana weren’t true

[@ButterflyBlossom6415]

I don't know why, when you mentioned Janette, for some reason I missed when she and Ariana were acting in the Sam & Cat series, I even got sad when they canceled it, I heard that she got very cocky when she became a popular singer and that made me not like her very much, sometimes I usually dislike Ariana for some reason

[@justjoannak]

Yeah, celebrities doing Asian/Blackfishing is a no from me

[@haphuongnguyen3358]

Yeah, I had to grow up with white girlhood being the only representation of girlhood but white women can just pick and choose if and when they're Asian lmao. Internalized racism sucks and the only ones thriving are those who enforced it.

[@AzurieWard-sz5bx]

AGREED

[@sarahthomas8670]

Literally

[@izonexbae]

I think this era actually showed that the internet will never actually fall out of love with her, the fact that her songs are still charting and her fragrances ect are selling like crazy. It's amazing how her career is not being blasted by rumors

[@Aeunax123]

Likely because she doesn’t address it. If you act like you don’t care, then people will eventually stop because they don’t get a reaction.

[@izonexbae]

@@Aeunax123 pr game strong as hell

[@tiahnarodriguez3809]

@@Aeunax123 It’s a little more complicated. Celeb drama isn’t held to the same standard drama with regular people is. If a regular peleen did this they would have been canceled and faced harsher criticism, but because Arianna is a celeb, drama for her is seen as a part of her brand and for entertainment purposes, so by not addressing the drama, she gets rid of the seriousness of the issues, and people eventually forget about it, and replace it with current drama from other celebs.

[@watermelonlover745]

It shows that there is a disconnect between internet and real world economy *sometimes*

[@paola6659]

The internet will never fall out of love with Ariana she’s been to important in pop culture to just make her un popular all of sudden I mean Ariana grande started fashion trends,makeup trends,memes,songs that ruled over the media through time even than when u think about the 2010’s many people think about Ariana cause her,nikki,and Miley ruled over that time and implanted many pop culture moments that are still remembered today years later where the internets humor has severely changed

[@melfeasance.]

honestly justice for victoria justice though, she was kinda set up being cast as the lead in a show with people who could sing better than her, ESPECIALLY ariana (though victoria isn't a particularly bad singer, just less skilled)

[@xCindyLouWhox]

This is why you don’t surround yourself with yes people!!!! You know damn well not a single friend or family member or collaborator has told her that her actions are quite unsavory and this song is a bad idea. I think she was expecting people to rally around her like what happens with most female pop stars when they release an empowerment anthem but literally nobody can get behind the message of this song lmao. And I have been a very very large Ari fan for several years. My view of her is definitely tarnished. But I always try not to idolize celebrities anyway because this shit always ends up happening lol.

[@SunriseOnViolet]

I don’t know if this is relevant to anyone else with falling out of “love” with Ari, but I know for me, once Colleen Ballinger fell off her pedestal and everything came out about how disgusting her behaviors were for years, it did affect how I saw Ariana too. Because Colleen has always talked about how close she was to Ari growing up and she was good friends with Frankie, and well Ari put Colleen in her music video, so there was some truth to their friendship. If you were willing to have a friend like Colleen and support her and give her jobs, then whose to say, you didn’t witness how she interacted with fans or hear stories or opinions. It’d the same for Todrick now. It had me questioning all their true colors. Which in the end is a good thing cause I’ve never wanted to be one who takes a person at face value without checking the vibes.

[@PGOuma]

Thisssss

[@xcallisto_]

To be honest, I don't think Ariana really knew about what Colleen was doing. As an ex-Miranda Sings/Colleen Ballinger fan I think it was quite clear that they hadn't really hung out since like 2013. Ariana's 7 rings video was kind of a reunion of people that she also hadn't seen in a while (don't think she'd ever even met gabby who had a line in the beginning)

[@luisabolado]

@@xcallisto_yeah i think this too

[@imouttahere9018]

Todrick hall? What did he do?

[@MoyaBrennan6825]

Colleen was close to her growing up? So colleen grew up just as rich and spoiled as Ariana? No wonder they’re both a hot mess. Boca Raton must be the spawn point for messy girls.

[@exidbts2620]

Loved your video. Just a little addition, since I like to read gossip sites during my commute and I wouldn't say 'Yes And?' is Ariana's first time responding to Ethan Slater cheating scandal. When the news broke, I remember her PR trying to push the narrative in the media there was no overlap. There were articles about it. It's just that no one believed it so she switched to "why do you care what I do?" attitude which is heard in 'Yes And?'. Again, great video 😊

[@andshereadstoo7809]

Its so smart of them to have pr ppl answer for her and never involve her directly. I always seem to remember the terrible Ashton Kutcher Mila Kunis apology- why cant they all take note from Ariana lmao

[@alpacacomentadora413]

hoe fans defending the hoe queen

[@ra-wj1wl]

Id rather hope people look at ariana and take a note to not let parasocial relationships to delude into believing these ultra rich arent messed up people and not relying on their pr to sound relatable

[@peterpumpkin7745]

Not to mention the victorious bullying scandal basically RUINED Victoria Justices career and it wasn’t even true! Ariana definitely didn’t care about that either. When I heard Victoria allegedly bullied Ariana on set, I completely turned against Victoria. Now I feel tricked!

[@ZelZel-04]

15:49 Idk, knowingly cheating with a married man and even staying with him after abandoning his wife and kid and then releasing a song talking how “ unbothered™ ”you are about ruining a family over and H&M beat would piss any normal person off and turn them off completely. People are doing right by that

[@angiebams123]

🎯🎯🎯

[@kates7348]

I also find her stark and continuous weight loss to be concerning and she turns off Instagram comments when people start asking questions. She very clearly has an eating disorder or a health issue that's leading to rapid weight loss, and I'm inclined to believe it's the former. It's scary to watch someone get thinner and thinner like this with seemingly no intention to address it, especially when they're a "beauty icon" for young girls.

[@MoyaBrennan6825]

She’s on that weight loss injection for sure. Heroin chic is back in fashion and she is following the trend.

[@laylamonae1382]

Thank you for bringing this up

[@TaphsAJ]

As someone with an ed, her ig explanation was just a bunch of circle talk. “The body you’re comparing me to was the most unhealthy I’ve been mentally.. “ girl.. that isn’t food or weight related.. that’s your mental health… you may have felt like shit then, that doesn’t correlate to you being a healthy weight, which is what we’re talking about. she never said she didn’t either she just said “don’t talk about peoples bodies.” May sound crazy, but if it legitimately won’t kill you, I will always talk about anorexic bodies. I really don’t care about your feelings, because your feelings are what’s gonna kill you, not me acknowledging reality.

[@tay2944]

Dude. I noticed this but hardly anyone is talking about it and it’s so crazy

[@indiesunflowers]

@@tay2944everyones been talking about it what do u mean lol. so much that she's literally addressed it in a long video & it's also a line in her song "don't comment on my body"

[@erinnadia0409]

If she did that donuts thing closer to Covid she would have got banished and we would have never heard from her again 😂

[@bphussar]

Well she didn't.. so why does that matter? It happened almost 10 years ago, girl. Get over it.

[@chuuu4610]

Aw she wouldn’t. She could step on a puppy now and her fans would defend her.

[@bphussar]

You're unwell. Get help @@chuuu4610

[@AmberTurdsShittyBedsheet]

​@@bphussar Okay then why did ya'll come after that one black girl for licking ice cream she didn't purchase? Ari is a p*g for what she did, get over that.

[@jaemca601]

@@bphussarhere y’all go

[@terenarosa4790]

All the surgeries just made her face disappear. Idk how to explain it. I know there's technically a face there, but when i look at her i don't see a face. It looks so blank now. Like a robot alien. It's uncanny.

[@123DLC]

she needs to learn to be single

[@CathrineAnnWolfe]

sweetener will ALWAYS be my favorite Ariana grande album. I was in a dark place at the time and her songs breathin, no tears left to cry, get well soon, goodnight n go…all were like free therapy I felt seen and I know a lot of people did too. Also I am in LOVE with the aesthetic of that album.

[@Scintillate9]

it’s her magnum opus. it’s what propelled her to mega fame and made thank u next even possible

[@kaypat23]

Same. It felt really special to me too. I listened to it during a dark period of my life and it introduced me to her songs for the first time. Shame she fell off now tho

[@evap.5121]

"Yes, and?" is Gaslighting 101.

[@lessismore8533]

EXACTLY I grew up with a younger sibling like this. ALWAYS the victim lol

[@Faith.M22]

Is playing nonstop on the radio 🙄🙄

[@jellyellie242]

the nail in the coffin for my admiration of Ariana was that video of her “crying” and admitting she had a lot of filler in the past, and she says she stopped getting botox bc she “wants her smile lines to get deeper and deeper”. she has a face FULL of work and there’s not a chance in hell she is tox free right now. like girl bffr. it’s fine to have work done just don’t lie about it. it was so cringe and made me sick.

[@aadya.kumarr]

i mean she didn’t lie about it tho? she admitted to filler and botox? which mainstream pop girly have u seen admitting to work even tho they’ve all had it done?

[@leirafilms]

Im confused, did we watch the same video? She didn't lie she did admit to getting work done AS WELL admit to if she wanted to get work done in the future she would...

[@pixelpudding3914]

It’s honestly kinda insane that people thought she was Mexican when there was a whole ass Victorious episode written about the fact that she never ate a taco 💀💀 (It’s the Breakfast Club parody one btw)

[@Karma_616]

it's wild ppl are so blind

[@shellybelly7784]

Not every Latin country eats tacos. So this doesn’t make sense

[@clancy8299]

Tacos are not part of all Latin American cultures…

[@pixelpudding3914]

@@clancy8299 Ik, it’s just that they’re the most stereotypical symbol of Latin cultures and yet people were convinced she was Latina when she openly never had this extremely stereotypical thing from said culture including a whole episode of the tv show she was on about that. Like she couldn’t even “play the part” if you will

[@imthebossmermaid3648]

@@pixelpudding3914 That's like if I(as a Jamaican) never had plaintains. 😭

[@C00kie__]

the way Naya Rivera didn't even try to hide her name in her book when talking about finding her with big sean, referring to her as "shmariana shmande," said everything to me ETA: it's not my favorite but i love sweetener haha

[@ieeee_.]

naya debunked... she said that never happened

[@alicestyczen7924]

Despite any Arianna controversy - I just genuinely DO NOT find Yes, and to be a bop.

[@lessismore8533]

Yah it sounds like an 80s rip off. Or Madonnas “Vogue”

[@ssgg23]

Kind of reminds me of Tove Lo’s work. Which makes sense since Max Martin is involved with this song and a lot of Tove Lo’s songs. I think the dance vibe works way better with Tove Lo’s vocal style, Ariana makes it sound cheesy lol

[@ha231]

All those doughnuts for 5 dollars?!🤯 Also her saying she secretly licked a doughnut to make a statement about obesity is so dumb, who bought that? lmao

[@stuff1784]

Hahaaa right

[@MoyaBrennan6825]

People need to remember that she comes from insane wealth. She grew up in a luxurious house in Boca Raton. She has never been a grounded “ordinary” girl.

[@itskimforkim-yi]

do you know what was wild about the ethan slater situation? that they conveniently split from their partners once wicked was shut down because of the strikes (maybe the sources I read was wrong). its there loud and clear that they fucked around until they couldn't anymore because wicked gave them a reason to hang out be together do whatever the fuck they were doing. people can argue with me how they want on this but if you date someone and they split up and get a new monogamous committed partner that quickly something was definitely going on, at the very least emotional cheating. the fact the internet caught on because of how her past relationships began is just unfortunate for her LOL. anyone with common sense who has read what the late Naya Rivera (Big Sean's ex) said and what her past songs have been like knows this has always been who she is.

[@janetmennell7834]

It is so clear that they were cheating. We dont need proof. You just need a brain.

[@jetsettersince1995]

Wicked the Movie feels like another Cats the Movie situation and idk how the world will react to it

[@Cj-jr7js]

Taylor Swift couldn't even save cats lol

[@deee71194]

I had a Tumblr blog dedicated to her when I was 14ish like I was there and so hyped when put your hearts up dropped and I still listen to her music but she’s sooo full of herself and not even in an “I’m incredibly talented and gifted” way more like “I’m better than everyone else in every aspect” way

[@hoveringgray2817]

Imagine going into a donut shop, ordering donuts, then acting rude to the costumer service worker who did what you asked, then saying it was bc americans are too fat. Girl what? That is so jarring to me. The way you treat people who work in costumer service is a big indicative of your character and I guess the way things went on later weren't that surprising.

[@jeremyv12]

You already alluded to it, but how the internet fell out of Doja Cat seems like a great video!

[@jazzmyn5804]

She has one of those already! It's also really good

[@RavensWings11]

Her new album sucked so unbelievably bad it knocked me sideways; especially because I love the stuff she put out right before it.

[@stuff1784]

Doja Cat became a literal demon soo

[@RavensWings11]

@@stuff1784 well that's clown talk alright

[@izzyc127]

I got to agree with you on the wicked movie because it honestly would have worked better as an animated movie because not everything translates well into live action.

[@jimbob2427]

It may turn out well especially since this is aris dream role

[@izzyc127]

@@jimbob2427 well it’s obvious that Fiyero and Boq’s transformations into the tin man and scarecrow are going to be scary and they’re going to have some creepy uncanny valley CGI.

[@rine4194]

I'm going to watch it anyway to support Cynthia Erivo lol

[@izzyc127]

@@rine4194 reasonable.

[@lessismore8533]

lol yah like TLM Diseny remake 😂

[@jessiedv1247]

I also think the conversation about Pete Davidson after their breakup was wayyyyy too harsh. People were telling Pete to kill himself and always saying how ugly he is. I think people forget Pete’s been to rehab numerous times, a lot of which occurred after their relationship. Ariana could’ve easily stopped the hate surrounding him and didn’t do anything.

[@eternalbliss330]

she literally told her fans to stop harassing him immediately and publicly apologized, dont twist that💀

[@ay1029]

the positions album throws me for a loop because like… how do you write songs like obvious, pov, main thing, someone like u, etc. and divorce the way they did?? she SAID she wanted to be a wife to that man just to leave him and then coincidentally start dating her coworker not too long after?? it doesn’t make sense and anyone who thinks there wasn’t emotional cheating going on while they were filming is absolutely delusional. they are both incredibly selfish, diabolical people and deserve each other. hope the wife and child find peace in this and flourish.

[@katjune]

The most disturbing part of all of this is how much Ethan looks like her brother😭😭

[@vicg2652]

Wicked is going to be a super expensive clusterfuck. I’ll see it. I love a train wreck. But it’s gonna be a hot mess.

[@shanel4294]

This has done more for the movie wicked, than the marketing team ever could. I wanna watch it and I’ve never even seen the original or do I listen to Ariana. Idk I just wanna see it now 😭

[@b8376]

i’m so excited for the press junkets😭

[@vicg2652]

@@shanel4294 oh 100%. It’s gonna be trash. But like, it’s gonna be MY trash.

[@calisha1889]

@@b8376it’s going to be wild like when harry styles and Olivia had that movie fr

[@b8376]

@@calisha1889 hope the wicked cast goes to the venice film festival 😭😭

[@AIgeneratedHuman]

I like a few Ariana Grande songs here and there and I've noticed that she has a tendency to cast herself as the victim in her songs. She talks a lot about how she's healing from some previous hurt and has baggage and whatnot. I think it's hilarious how she maintains her stance as the victim when she obviously has a pattern of inserting herself into other people's relationships. Granted, I find it amusing when the men she's had affairs with get disposed of after a little bit. She knows how to pick shitty men and give them what they deserve. Based on her songs I've also noticed how she seems to become infatuated very quickly with these men and think she's deeply in love with them one minute then loses interest the next. Based on what I'm seeing, this is something she needs to sort out with a therapist. But this is just what I've gathered from her songs and what we've seen of her dating history. I could definitely be wrong.

[@thisisnancybot]

As someone who doesn’t have the patience for keeping up with the daily gossip on Twitter, but doesn’t want to be completely out of the loop, thanks for summarizing these!

[@broadwaylover5384]

I have a feeling the Wicked movies are going to bomb since theyre spending $310 MILLION total for the both of them, so they'd need at least $620 million from them to be profitable. Movie musicals havent done super great recently, so I doubt they'll make a fraction of that. Personally, I used to be a huge Ari fan! I knew about her dating history but wasn't aware how she basically stole all the men she's been with. So finding out that, plus the fact a young child is involved, put me off both Ariana and Ethan. Havent listened to "Yes, And?" and will not be listening to Eternal Sunshine. And definitely not seeing Wicked! I also feel like they waited too long to make them as Wicked isn't nearly as *popular* 😉 as it once was. Wouldn't be surprised if it closes on Broadway soon like Phantom did.

[@juannaym8488]

that's like every movie. Spent like a gazilion bucks, make a trilion but still be at a lose because you spent a gazilion. Weird thing is, studios already had that issue in the 70s

[@wowjennawow]

apparently she does have the proper poise when she talks to boys… and married ones at that 💀

[@DarthGayder]

​@@wowjennawow I sang it... I sang your comment... you did well. lol

[@ew4645]

What I’m hearing from people working on Wicked, the scheduling of the film has been a nightmare. I don’t know if the stars of the show have anything to do with it 🤷‍♀️ EDIT: I may very well be wrong btw and basing it on a couple frustrated people’s opinions. As far as I know everyone has been pleased with the working conditions on the actual set etc.

[@eternalbliss330]

the scheduling is fine what😭 they had 10 days left before the strike hit, fully wrapped like 3 days ago

[@ew4645]

@@eternalbliss330 oh interesting, I’m assuming you’re working on it? Maybe things have changed 🤔 I’ve understood from acquaintances that they’ve been constantly booking and releasing people because of some issues they’re having with the production. Actually that happened to me too but I can’t speak on it further since I didn’t get to go

[@girlyvidsbyali1475]

I think it’s funny that’s it’s taken this long to show that maybe Ariana was actually the real mean girl on Victorious and people bullied Victoria who was innocent into extinction and ruined her career over someone like Ariana. I love both girls music. But damn I’ve heard stories about meeting both girls and Victoria is sooo nice to everyone. Ariana has been mentioned as the most disrespectful person.

[@Cherry_min]

There was also another scandal she had when, a Chinese pop idol ( I already know he was problematic afterwards ) surpass her album and she was caught liking tweets that were xenophobic.

[@j.a4196]

Chinese idol? Kris Wu?

[@iheartvicky]

this is why gege made gojo die because of people like you

[@Cherry_min]

@@iheartvicky bro what? Did you think that was gonna make me upset…? He’s a fictional character. lol

[@smarmalade5938]

I looked him up...yeah I think he's a lot more than 'problematic' 😭😭

[@user-ef5qc1cb9q]

The Comments section on the Yes, and? Official music video keeps getting censored. I had written a very polite comment disliking the message of the song, and after two days and a lot of Likes, it was removed. Then I left a comment mentioning this censorship, which was immediately taken down.

[@heathermartin7459]

They are deleting comments????😭😭😭

[@user-ef5qc1cb9q]

Yes. I wanted to track everything and I took screenshots of it every day. I had posted it soon after the video posted. And it remained the one right under the top comment until they took it down.

[@chelscara]

That’s hilarious and so so sad

[@lisamujo287]

That’s extremely ironic considering the “gives no f*cks” message of the song lol

[@user-ef5qc1cb9q]

Yes, I agree that it's very ironic. The second time I posted, I said just that, and this time they took it down very quickly. Clearly they don't feel as confident as they pretend to in the song.

[@Lindsay-Makes-Videos]

The evil grin of agreement that stretches across my face after your take on the Wicked movie lol 😂😂

[@mimi0w086]

Sweetner is so good honestly it’s definitely my favourite album because it has the most amount of sad songs LOL expresses alot of anxiety and its very relatable

[@MeganSin]

My thing about Ari is that she’ll be fine but there will probably be a dark cloud over her due to her love life. She’s kinda the modern day Elizabeth Taylor at this point. Also it’s my personal belief that she hasn’t ever gotten over Mac’s death because since his death she had bounced from one relationship to another in record time.

[@lucypreece7581]

I do worry about Ariana. She likely has some serious undiagnosed mental health issue stemming from being on Victorious because we are starting to get more and more information about how toxic those kind of work environments were at the time and then likely made worse by the Manchester Bombing which would mess with anyone's head and just like break them beyond the point of sanity. I always felt she needed to take a much longer break from music and the public eye after the Manchester attack happened to properly process it and deal with it and get proper help and stuff and maybe if she had done that she could have avoided a lot of the messy situations she has been in recently.

[@justjoannak]

100% agree

[@lmnop29]

Me too, plus the fact she keeps getting surgeries but denying them and black/Asianfishing to me sounds like someone struggling with deep-seated image issues. She was sooo close to being self aware during "Thank U, Next" when she admitted she gets into relationships with men to avoid dealing with her problems, and sadly it appears she's continuing the pattern.

[@tiahnarodriguez3809]

Arianna’s issues stem way before her victorious days. Past classmates of hers have said she was not the nicest person, but I’m sure all of her issues were made worse when she got in the spotlight, plus being surrounded by yes men didn’t help.

[@andshereadstoo7809]

​@@tiahnarodriguez3809 I wanted to say- I dont think these types of behaviour just spawn out of being on a show, to me it always seemed she had dificult life growing up. Also, the things the Nickelodeon guy made then do as minors ona show for minors- horrific ☠

[@Thighlicious]

She did take a break after that, 3 years was it? She said she was fine and everyone was happy to have her back

[@Ty-mu7gl]

As talented as she is, I've never trusted people who idolize her and time has always proven my judgement right lmao. Her entire career is a streak of questionable actions indeed

[@lessismore8533]

True I always knew her image was too hyped since 2014. She needs to be held accountable

[@marxtakes]

at the end of the day shes a homewrecker

[@firstlast9846]

Holding someone’s newborn and saying “I want one” infront of the man’s wife - while having an affair is legit hilariously evil.

[@castielabloodwings6301]

Uhm, both of them are, it’s not entirely HER fault.

[@AnneettaLife]

@@castielabloodwings6301but she is at fault. And sorry to say but she’s way more famous than him, meaning more people were attached to her to care about what kind of person she was. Some people looked up to her and saw her as a hero. He’s a nobody, even after dating her he’s still a nobody. so it’s only inevitable she was going to get most of the flack.

[@castielabloodwings6301]

@@AnneettaLife I’m just saying that they BOTH share the responsibility, like personally no matter how famous a person flirting with me is, if I already have a family and kids I wouldn’t just break my family for a famous pussy 🙅🏻 both of them are awful home wreckers and deserve each other

[@AN-sm3vj]

It's hard for me to get mad at the "other woman/man" because at the end of the day, if the committed person cheated, it means they were going to cheat either way. In order to have an affair you have to lie to the person you're supposed to love and violate their trust in so many ways. In some ways that guys wife is lucky she found out right way instead of via an STD test a decade later. No person has the power to make your partner cheat if they make the decision to be loyal. And I can't imagine any secure woman wasting their time on a cheater. I feel sorry for Grande and devastated for that guys wife.

[@Amour-tm6uz]

No, but the black fishing thing is so right though. I’m saying this as a white woman. Yes, your skin is allowed to get tanned. Especially if you’re out in the sun and what not. But it really is so weird to purposely make yourself THAT much darker than your natural skin tone and at the same time jump on music and aesthetics that are associated with black culture. She clearly was trying to play off of the fact that black culture was trendy at the time. And she changes her look and aesthetic depending on what is in right now.

[@cassiejcm]

She showed her true colours when the 22yo Ariana licked the donut in a public shop. If you’ve been 22, you know you know better and she made the choice knowing someone else was gonna buy and eat it. Fowllll. Only children would see that and come up with excuses as to why she’s still a good person. She’s like any other famous person, they think they can get away with everything bc well they do. Disappointing.

[@jolynnsouder7745]

She does have a song called break up with your girlfriend cause i'm bored We all should have seen this coming She has gotten away with so much stuff.

[@rice_frying_shrimp]

yea, but it was such a bop that we tuned out the lyrics 😭😭😭

[@mapetidye]

I hateddddd that song

[@DuskPShermanWallaby123]

I remember my jaw dropped when I first saw the title of the song. How did anyone stay a fan of hers??

[@aeoligarlic4024]

People were too blinded by the lgbt aesthetic she put in that MV of the time. Tho some lgbt followers i know actually started cancelling her after that queerbait video

[@IzzyQueen12]

@@aeoligarlic4024as a queer person myself, idk if it’s queerbaiting cuz Ariana identifies as unlabeled cuz she doesn’t label her sexuality so technically speaking, she’s not straight but it’s hard to tell cuz she’s only really dated men so it could be seen as queerbaiting? As for the MV, I’m pretty sure it’s stated that it’s about self love which I could see since the other girl looks very identical to her.

[@ronweasley496]

I’m not a hater but as someone who disliked her and never saw her appeal, this is pretty satisfying. Like when you don’t like your bffs bf bc he’s an asshole but she doesn’t want to listen, and when he proves you right you just have to be there for tour friend, biting your tongue so you don’t say “I told you so”.

[@lessismore8533]

Yes I never liked Ariana so this is satisfying for me too

[@janetmennell7834]

Me too @@lessismore8533

[@janetmennell7834]

The whole donut incident and the ridiculous excuse. Shes a rich brat.@@lessismore8533

[@jeffreyh271]

Unpopular Opinion: Sweetener was her BEST album because she made it at her must vulnerable state and A LOT of us related to it.... its not her trying to be "sexy" or "edgy".... also the music videos were some of the BEST music videos of that time !!

[@IzzyQueen12]

That’s a VERY popular opinion but yeah I agree. Some say Dangerous Woman is better but in my opinion, despite the bops, it’s really just filled with pop songs (and is her most dirtiest album, not Positions). Sweetener stands strong even today and it’s experimental, emotional and amazing on so many levels. It won a Grammy for a reason

[@MelancholyofMere09]

My favorite comment I've seen is "First and foremost: Ariana is from Florida"

[@Amy-mp9wx]

Homewrecking and being cheeky about it 😂😂😂😂

[@Ellis1988]

Someone said her new song sounds like a mall song couldn't agree more😂😂😂😂😂

[@jimbob2427]

That’s house/ dance music for you. Renaissance fits into the same category

[@Ellis1988]

@@jimbob2427 not going to dance to homewrecker anthem😆I'm a woman not a girl

[@iheartvicky]

@@Ellis1988if you are a woman grow up pay your taxes and stop hating on a celebrity. they are a CELEBRITY.

[@jimbob2427]

@@Ellis1988 right because you were there and u know Ariana personal life got it

[@Ellis1988]

@@iheartvicky I don't hate I don't approve childish behaviour. You grow up here defending a celebrity who doesn't even know you exist lmao.

[@ellencoleman4604]

Last week I found out someone at my workplace is in Wicked - he's a Lindy Hop specialist dancer and got brought in for the school ball scene. He said they clearly had money to burn because he got his own tailored costume.

[@imthebossmermaid3648]

Did he say anything about the SpongeBob situation?

[@melmontoyaa6888]

Also let's not forget about the weird situation between Ariana and her 7 ring group of friends which included Victoria Monét. Im not exactly sure what happened with that friend group but something went down and no one is talking about. Also her thing with social house.

[@j.a4196]

Yeah, it's not the first time tho. I remember in 2014-15, she had a group of non-famous friends. They even went with her to Japan. Then they vanished. It must be hard to have true friends as a celebrity, but she's always changing her entire group of friends. And what happened with Social House? The last thing I know is that she was dating Mike Foster in 2019 while she was on tour

[@anniesolomon4876]

​@@j.a4196 All of this just makes her look even more guilty

[@Storm-iw7sm]

I knew someone like her in college. She casually cheated on all of her boyfriends and was always in and out of relationships.

[@sohanatamara8699]

At least Taylor has the common sense to step back when her fans say hey that thing you’re doing is problematic. Ari doubles down like an IDIOT!! ma’am this is only damaging you and no one else.

[@FleekBymuna]

If Taylor Swift had common sense she wouldn't of dated a racist homophobic nazi in the first place... stop excusing these celebs behaviour.

[@aeoligarlic4024]

She's a hopeless romantic serial dater but at least she never meddle into someone else's relationship. But i have never personally seen any ocassion of her stopping her fans? I've seen her fans acting racist towards the beyhive and she is still silent and never called them out

[@shamus248]

​@aeoligarlic4024 also a climate criminal who doesn't comment on relevant issues

[@imthebossmermaid3648]

Eh, both are bad in their own ways. Neither is better than the other. You could just as easily say that at least Ari never dated anyone with a sexual fetish for Black women being abused and tortured(something Matt Healy, Taylor's ex, openly admitted to having). 🤷🏾‍♀

[@iheartvicky]

you are a grown woman, an adult, hating on a celebrity. move on. find something to do.

[@amybrown6605]

She really kept on with the “thank you, next” affirmation , divorcing her husband and moving to another guy , too.. quickly 👀.

[@rosehipowl]

I'm not an Ariana Grande fan (though I like some of her songs), don't keep up with celebrity gossip anymore (I used to but it made my mental health worse), so I heard the song and liked it and added it to my playlist. I did not know the context behind it and yikes I was not expecting this from it?! I still like the song but now I'm conflicted, I just thought it was a generic "ignore the bad things" song, not "I had an affair with a married man who has a baby, let me sing it to you" song???

[@imthebossmermaid3648]

Lizzo 🫱🏿‍🫲🏾Ariana Grande: "All the rumors are true."

[@xAgirlfriend]

It's just a song, it's not that deep.

[@Astrophel24]

@@xAgirlfriend A song about real events and the "artist" admitting and downplaying the actions they've done. This kind of apathy and narcissism from someone just shows how many more spoiled rich kids we have now than ever before. Atleast before they knew to pretend, now they don't even have to and still makes an appalling amount of money.

[@ButterflyBlossom6415]

@@Astrophel24 I totally agree with you on that.

[@Jureumi148]

LOL i just watched this video today and as i'm watching the super bowl, i see a commercial for wicked 😭😭

[@BriannaStimpson]

omg THANK YOU i ask myself like once a month is wicked a real project??? i don't even know why it just doesn't seem like it's real at all.