Kazuya Frame After Electric Stun Combos and Other AA Jab12 Extensions

Frame after Electric Stun Combos including Electric Jab Loops and other AA Jab12 Extensions
Each rep here requires a perfectly timed Jab1 that hits the frame after the Electric paralysis (the first frame launched). However, when they are in Electric stun for plus 5 frames (all reps here) then all you have to do is buffer the frame 6 jab. Then against certain floaty chars, you will be plus enough where to link an EWGF after the Jab12. For larger percent windows Electric stun will be more than +5 frames requiring a frame perfect jab to hit the FA electric stun.
These concepts can be applied to other combo starters/extensions such as Up Tilt(1) and Tsunami Kick(1) and other various starters such as Down-Throw CDC Jab
Song 1 - Pave Your Way from the Tekken 8 OST
Song 2 - Electric Fountain from the Tekken 6 OST
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[@icymiles]

I had so much fun labbing this today. It literally made me come out of training mode feeling like a god

[@ViedViper]

Thats so sick! Really love to hear it! So excited more people are enjoying playing with these combos!

[@icymiles]

@@ViedViper Hell yeah!! Thank you so much for what you do for our character! Learning new combos/techs with Kazuya and adding more tricks to my arsenal is genuinely my favorite part of this game. Let's just say that my confidence with this character skyrocketed after practicing these combo routes.

[@ViedViper]

@@icymiles TYVM! That' so awesome! It's one of my favorite things to do as well and when you start implementing all stuff you spent so much time practicing, its just all the better

[@semuta2752]

It’s lookin’ like he’s back, gang!

[@dansu1503]

I love this one!! I've always loved comboing out of jab, it just feels so disrespectful I've been gradually working in cd->cjab into my playstyle (from your last video), but my timing is far from perfect still. Definitely gonna practice these jabjab combos though, the one on Steve seems especially good since I suck at comboing him from zero!

[@ViedViper]

Thanks! Lol yeah it's pretty funny. Ah nice, yeah the cr. Jab infinite is really hard, but the CDC -> cr. Jab is good tool to have and will help you learn a lot of other useful cancels like CDC shield. LOL yeah, Steve can be so skinny sometimes going for follow ups after the Electric. Hopefully these can help, you just really need to know your percent windows when doing them. As well as make sure that move like Tsunami Kick(1) and Up Tilt(1) hit grounded, but that is easy to incorporate when you use them as extenders.

[@ViedViper]

Variations of these combos have been around for some time now using Jab, Throws and Electric follow ups (some truer than others, those single AA Jab combos are not close at all to being true), but I'm glad to finally have these last 2 videos out as the next videos will be showcasing a lot more newer stuff I've shown very little of or not at all.

[@itsgarou2786]

Haven't tested in a while but I believe at 0 with about 23 characters (Pit for example) the jab 1+2 becomes a 50/50 where electric loses to shield and parry but beats everything else. Grab beating shield and parry obviously. Works around 30 for most of the cast. Certainly not even close to the optimal thing to do in that situation but neat.

[@geekey3441]

Double ewgf into uf tilt x4 is so crazy, love it! glad you're back and uploading! You're visualizers and explanations for how frames and combos work are so clear and concise, there are few people who do it as well as you! Question though: does ewgf initial stun vary based on weight, rage, percent, etc? It always seemed like it varied slightly, and especially when hitting AEwgf

[@ViedViper]

LOL ikr! It is definitely something I want to lab more. You can combo off of a normal Wind God Fist against some fast fallers, idk why these can combos can't work well against some chars as well. Thanks! I'm try to be more consistent (might be a little harder now with SF6 out now lol). You're always posting sick stuff on your main channel, here hoping we can continue to be consistent with it!

[@geekey3441]

It also seems like the direction we're pushing kazuya's meta in is- we started at optimizing percents and combos, etc. but now the important part is positioning yourself relative to platforms to make follow-ups as consistent and inescapable as possible. Stuff like mizushi (dgf Nair) loops as well as this allows you to position yourself next to platforms in a way that makes idj Nair->dgf way easier to confirm. Would that be correct?

[@ViedViper]

@@geekey3441 Yeah I completely agree! A lot of situational combos with percent windows, against various chars, stage positioning, opener, etc. that can be optimized to make combos as inescapable as possible. From option selecting DI to avoiding the platform/no platform mixup, there is a lot you can do. Just might take some time to lab through it all and getting use to recognizing those situations in an actual game.

[@geekey3441]

@@ViedViper thanks for the compliment! I didn't even realize I was on my alt but it's pretty easy to tell it's me I suppose 🥲😂 I'm still trying to get out an upload a week if possible, I'm a bit stuck on unique content rn but maybe if you've got some recommendations for applications of these combos that would make for a good demonstrative video, I can try to put it to the test in match!

[@geekey3441]

@@ViedViper right, we're cheaters but it's funny and we all play the same game soooo who's really winning 💀 I've been implementing stuff like adding small movements in between stature smash->tsunami & dgf->ewgf/cjab to position the opponent directly in the center of a platform, or away from it entirely. I'm also implementing body blocking on ewgf to prevent the opponent from di ing off a platform when I think they're going to go on to it. Super cool stuff

[@user-qx4co2ut2z]

最風当てた後、 空Nは跳ねるけど上スマ（上B）じゃ倒せない時に使えるなこれ 最風→弱2段→最風→上スマ　とか （コンボ始動が60〜80%あたり） 台乗り展開も拒否できるし強い

[@lonnie4768]

How You Do That Electric Stun. Is there like a specific way to do it? Because My Opponents are always sent flying when I try to put the command

[@ptang5139]

0:25 May I ask what is the input of this get up side B? It is so fast

[@TheBurningTrain]

Greetest is my dad

[@YEETUS_SSB]

What characters do these routes work best against?

[@ViedViper]

Mostly floaty chars, but not too floaty where they can get out of hitstun before they hit the ground. The Up Tilt(1)/Tsunami Kick(1) AA Jab combos tend to combo better and against more chars than the Electric AA Jab combos I've found. Such as for Pacman, Steve, Samus. Non floaty chars like Roy/Bowser, the Electric follow up will not work cause they are not in the air long enough since the Jab2 is not plus enough (Might still be able to connect another Jab or a throw after). Then too floaty chars like Puff will just be able to escape before they hit the ground.

[@alfonsogamer0075]

Even tho i've almost mastered EWGF i still want to see, No EWGF combos cuz yes.

[@ViedViper]

Alright lol, I'll see what I can muster up without using too many reps of the Crouch Jab infinite lol!

[@alfonsogamer0075]

@@ViedViper thx. Althou i You Don want too You don't have too sinse it is still a sugestión. After all i've already learned EWGF

[@ViedViper]

@@alfonsogamer0075 Ah I like the challenge (I'm also liking SF6 atm too lol), but I think I have idea on how to do it :)

[@alfonsogamer0075]

@@ViedViper sinse i've been playing Kazuya in smash i decided to try out a Tekken Game SO i started playing Tekken 3D with Kazuya and for now i like the Game a lot and i still haven't played SF6 but i Will.

[@ViedViper]

@@alfonsogamer0075 Nice! I've only played SF6 a little bit so far, but after clicking with a char a little, it has been pretty fun as well.

[@Dbulkss]

How do I message you directly? You on discord? I got questions on my smash box I just got for kaz. Smash