Kelsey Grammer Breaks His Silence on the Most Hated Cheers Co Star

Are you a fan of the classic sitcom, Cheers? It was a monster hit for NBC in the 1980’s and chronicled the exploits of a group of bar patrons and workers in Boston. The cast has largely gone on to great success, including Kelsey Grammer, who managed to stretch a 3 episode arc into several seasons on the show, and a spinoff series of his own. But did you know that Kelsey released a book after the show ended, where he said that the reason he was asked to stay on was simply to annoy another cast mate?
▬Contents of this video▬
00:00 - Intro
00:51 - Frasier’s Introduction to Cheers
02:28 - Shelley vs. Kelsey
03:25 - The Producer’s Rebuttal
04:42 - Shelley and Kelsey’s Departures
06:03 - Kelsey and Other Costar
07:11 - Even More of Frasier Crane
08:19 - Outro
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Grammer made the remarkable statement, which was then treated as true until a producer on the show actually came out and said it was false! In this video, we’re taking a look at the feuds that happened on Cheers, and how Kelsey and this costar never quite saw eye to eye. We also talk about how and when certain cast members left the show, and what Kelsey’s journey on Cheers and Frasier was like.
We’ll also talk about Kelsey’s remarks about his long-time friend and costar Kirstie Alley, after her death in late 2022. We’ll go over his love for his costar, and why she came to his aid when he needed her most. Finally, we’ll take a look at the upcoming reboot of Frasier, slated to come to Paramount Plus in 2023! So check out this video today, as Facts Verse presents: Kelsey Grammer Breaks His Silence on the Most-Hated Cheers Co-Star
Kelsey Grammer Breaks His Silence on the Most Hated Cheers Co Star

[@FactsVerse]

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[@artchem1]

Yes love Mr. Kelsey Fra ner...FABOLOUR ACTOR !! - Along with Director ♥️🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🇬🇧

[@glenw-xm5zf]

I hated that show. It portrayed everyone as a sex maniac. Not realistic (I hope) Could be Shelley was a difficult person. Perhaps easy to like.though

[@RavenThom]

Loved Cheers, Hated Kelsey

[@crystalkaiser1142]

Yes I loved Kelsey. I watched a spin off show too all the time. I loved every episode of that as well so it was a good show.

[@paulweir5031]

Looking back on Cheers I realize what a shower the characters were.

[@mattf.1233]

I loved the chemistry between Frazier and Lilith. They cracked me up.

[@raymondgarafano8604]

Frasier, I think at times wanted to execute Lilleth if even just for shits n giggles. I think Carla's hi-heels really did something for her, possibly she was the mother of a show that was about a Mexican guy and his family.

[@FactsVerse]

Us too! Thank you so much for the trip down memory lane. What other types of video would you like to see?

[@TaDarling1]

Lilith was hilarious as the classic educated, but wound-up frigid woman. It was hard not to laugh at her interactions with everyone.

[@pAusten]

I loved Lilith's character. Then I became a BeBee broadway fan 😎

[@juliekane7210]

They were a very funny couple ! Kirstie Alpey fit right in when she was added to the show! We loved the show … Norm !!

[@DeltaEcho303]

Kelsey has my favorite sitcom line ever: "It's impossible for men to use sex to get what we want. Sex IS what we want!"

[@FactsVerse]

One of our favorites too, you've got taste! What other types of video would you like to see?

[@Ran-33]

Not when they value status money and power more.

[@Ran-33]

@@jscal1 ha ha yes a lot of them start their wealth by courting a woman.

[@stevewixom9311]

One of the best (and truthful) lines ever uttered.

[@dexterwestin3747]

I believed this when I was younger but I use the no sex on my wife when I am prepping for a course exam to focus and she always tries to seduce me not because she is horny but because she wants to see if she can make me crack.

[@rlsuth]

Frazier's best line in Cheers was after he finished writing his will he was at the bar and says: "I can go home and face death now, I just hope I don't wake her up".

[@edwardcricchio6106]

I loved the scene where the guys are stranded in the desert and they all are figuring they are going to die. So Cliff starts describing how he figured all the guys would have died. "Sam, I figured would be killed my a jealous husband. Norm would probably die of a heart attack. Dr. Crane now..." "Please Cliff, I don't want to know how I will die," says Fraiser. Cliff then says, "You bet you don't want to know!"

[@Jen-fq1jz]

Frasier is apparently coming back… per all the billboards I’m seeing here in LA this week 😂

[@Zak6959]

Lol

[@spooge33]

"Everybody have fun tonight..................Everybody Wang Chung tonight."

[@babywah3290]

The bit where the guys hire a stripper for Frasier but she turns out to be a psychiatric client. After escorting her out of the bar he later admits partially wanting to see her “shake her nonnies”😂😂

[@curtismichael4703]

All I know is that he’s a fantastic actor. FRAIZER remains one of my favorite sitcoms.

[@birdenthusiast2095]

I’m watching Frazier right now. 😂

[@rtflone]

Not just the acting and a stellar cast, but also the writing. The writing was exceptionally good

[@billythekid5258]

Ya, but I prefer FRAZIER!

[@jackiepowell7513]

Frazer? Frasier? Fraser?

[@lisaschiller7164]

That would be Frasier which you should know as such a fan?🤷‍♀️

[@michaelwaller7365]

Kelsey Grammer is the only actor to win 3 Emmys for the same character on 3 different shows. Cheers, Wings, & Fraiser.

[@kellyr4479]

He was on wings? I loved that show but remember seeing him on it. What episode was it? I do remember Tony Shalhoub aka Mr. Monk being on Wings though.

[@michaelwaller7365]

@@kellyr4479 Yes, he was a guest star on Wings. Planes, Trains, & Visiting Cranes (1992). You're right, Tony Shaloub played the cab driver.

[@judywhiting1675]

​@@kellyr4479 it is.a very funny episode....it's later on in the series

[@judywhiting1675]

​@@CJuser170 l have to.say.she.was probably at times difficult....but Cheers ended for me ..when SHE left....l NEVER cared for Alleys character ..wasn't funny......but the moments between SAM AND DIANE WERE CLASSIC

[@merk9569]

@@judywhiting1675. I agree with you. I really disliked Kristi Alley’s character, so much so that I avoided watching her in other roles.

[@joshoshea3194]

I had no idea that he was originally only meant to star in 3 episodes. And then ended up being one of if not the best characters. Bravo.

[@ronblack7870]

the guy who plays cliff created his character. he auditioned for the show but didn't get it and he asked them if they had a bar know it all character. they hadn't thought of that. he did and demonstration and they liked the character. he was only going to be on once in a while as well originally.

[@seanmaury7844]

I knew he'd be a hit when i saw "I'm running with scissors" as he ran around the bar with kids blunt end scissors!! 😂

[@syncmonism]

They ended up making a whole other Series with that character as the protagonist, which ended up being one of the most successful sitcoms of the 90's

[@socrates2890]

@@seanmaury7844 Forgot about that scene. Frasier was hysterical when he reeled off that line & ran around the bar!!! I remember laughing out loud, it was so funny. Thanks for bringing back a great memory!!!😂🤣😂

[@LearnAboutFlow]

I think Lilith was supposed to only appear in a few episodes as Fraser's girlfriend but then, too, became so popular they made her a regular per se.

[@jmash7751]

Loved Cheers; however, Frazier is one of the best comedies in tv history. The casting of David Hyde Pierce as Fraser's brother was brilliant. I still laugh my ass off whenever I catch a rerun.

[@FactsVerse]

We're very happy to know that you're a fan of both Cheers and Frasier! Which episode of Frasier appealed to you the most?

[@shrapnel77]

John Mahoney, who played his dad was my favorite and really added that "Cheers" dimension to the show. He was the one to smack Frasier and Niles into reality and not be such pretentious blowhards.

[@DivineREDxo]

DHP was so great at physical comedy. My favorite Niles moment was when he got shaving cream all over him. "I'm just a little hot.... and foamy." He always made me laugh way more than Frasier. The show is on Hulu right now.

[@Maya_Pinion]

Absolutely! Even dad's doggie rocked.

[@helenarendall5271]

@@FactsVerse the episode where Fraser hosts a get together for a politician who turned out to be something Fraser was not expecting. However I thought every one of the shows were brilliant. Another super episode was the brothers thinking they came from Russian royalty.

[@gabrielafonseca4034]

Shelly Long will always be remembered as the actress that left a successful show for a film career that never really happened

[@patrickt6642]

Wayne Rogers Larry linville and McClain Stevenson on mash

[@meghanmisaliar]

I'm glad she left though. Her story arch had run it's course.

[@Rob_Kates]

Right, Troop Beverly Hills was not a blockbuster.

[@ballybunion9]

That's a long list of people.

[@steveclapper5424]

I disagree.

[@virginiaviola5097]

Back in the day when quality actors, quality writers and quality producers made quality tv.

[@emjem99]

...and they still do.

[@michaelkim2147]

@@arthurwalls9091 THEY STILL DO! It doesn't have to be 10 seasons. just good shows no matter how many seasons its still good. like Better Call Saul, Breaking Bad, Suits, Succession, Severance, Afterlife, Tulsa King, Marvelous Miss Maisel, The Lincoln Lawyers. I mean I can go on if you want....

[@emjem99]

@@arthurwalls9091 who said anything about weekly shows? There are many, many brilliantly written, produced and performed shows being made these days, but the fact is that free to air networks mainly produce drivel for the masses while various streaming services produce some gems among the dross they also spew forth.

[@martinheath5947]

Yes

[@mc76]

Check your front yard. Some teenagers are walking on your lawn.

[@dekelanson5280]

I always thought both Long and Alley played terrific characters on Cheers.They were both different yet funny in their own ways. RIP Kirstie

[@jamesmcinnis208]

Always? Remarkable!

[@ernierodriguez3505]

She was a MAGA nut. F her!

[@trhansen3244]

I liked Kirstie but I loved Long.

[@FactsVerse]

So true. May Kirstie find peace. Which episode appealed to you the most?

[@davidmunoz5799]

Very True!!!

[@slowmads]

Kelsey reminds me of Bob Newhart. You can surround him with any actors and with good writers, he will shine and the show will succeed. . .

[@RavenThom]

GAH!

[@janemmb]

Oh I sincerely hope so although without his ‘family’ won’t it Neva whole new concept?Good luck 🍀 Mr Gramma😮😊 xx

Bob Newhart was the King of TV Sitcom comedy in my life.

[@TheItGirlQ]

You’re absolutely right about that!

[@alwayslernin4400]

If Frazier was a diamond then Niles was his 24k gold setting. One of the few shows I can go back and binge watch and laugh just as much the second or third go round. All the characters were great but DHP was one of my favorites. His slapstick reminded me of Dick Van Dyke because of how well they both did the physical comedy. That takes on a whole nother level of talent.

[@meghanmisaliar]

Definitely. Frazier and Niles had impeccable chemistry. Without Niles the show wouldn't have made it past a few seasons.

[@rallypoint1]

When Frazier and Niles went to the spa the silver door!!! LOL

[@JennyJeong425]

Why can't anyone spell Frasier correctly?

[@christinebeames712]

Nile’s in frasier was brilliant

[@farrellmcnulty909]

Yes, I'll miss Niles and Daphne when they won't be on. I'll also miss Roz - and even though Martin's been written off because of Mahoney's passing, he was married to Wendie Malik for the last year - what about step-mummy turning up?😆

[@elainebrumage9396]

Most of the Frazier characters were amazingly played by the actors. It still airs most mornings in the UK.

[@christinebeames712]

@@elainebrumage9396 hi Elaine , I loved frasier too , at the start I didn’t not like Nialls he seemed miscast , but he ended up my favourite one , his mannerisms were very funny and often touching , but all of them were perfect

[@jgfreer8322]

❤Niles was why I watched Frasier - he was quirky and funny and excellently played by David Hyde-Pearce!

[@randyfitch7911]

David Hyde Pierce was the voice for Abe Sapiens in Hellboy but didn't want screen credit. He felt it took credit away from the actor who physically portrayed the fish-humanoid.

[@marionthompson3365]

Frasier is simply the best US sitcom ever made. Best actors, best writers, brilliantly delivered lines. Every episode a masterpiece. I've seen every episode a multitude of times and will never tire of it. Love Kelsey Grammar.

[@jamesbrice6619]

I put it second only to Seinfeld . I hope the new show is half as good

[@karinfichtner7479]

His Christmas show with "Jesus" hiding in the bathroom was hysterical. The Frazier brothers were a match made in Heaven.

[@ronbianco5919]

@@jamesbrice6619 It is hard to argue against the huge success of Seinfeld. I must grant that it’s comic appeal has lasted longer than I thought it would. I was under the mistaken assumption that’s it’s cultural reference comedy would not withstand the test of time. I could not have been more wrong. TLDR: yada yada yada 😅

[@paulhanson5164]

@@jamesbrice6619 Seinfeld was never really a hit here in the UK, sometimes humour doesn't travel so well. Frasier was a huge hit here, I think only MASH is its equal but that's just my personal taste.

[@jamesbrice6619]

@paul hanson Frazier is actually my second favorite sit com next to Seinfeld. I know what you mean about different cultures rejecting certain shows from other countries. I remember that the Monty Python crew were astounded that America loved their show even more than Great Britain did.

[@condar419]

"Diane" appeared on "Frasier" four times, I believe. That tells me that Grammer's irritation with her was not that significant. And honestly, how many people have worked closely with someone for years and not been irritated by them at least a few times?!

[@michaellarosa519]

Exactly! Much ado over nothing I believe.

[@nataliekimball6073]

Shelly appeared on “Frasier” once.

[@virginiaconnor8350]

Unintentionally, I didn't start watching "Cheers" until Kirstie's chr. Rebecca showed up-not Shelley's fault- but I liked Kirstie as Lt. Saavik and hadn't watched Shelley's in anything then. No re-boots, please! I'd rather watch DVD set episodes or "reruns-on Roku channels.

[@stephenr3910]

​@Natalie Kimball There was a cameo where Frasier had a dream and she said only a line or two and he woke up.

[@A-FrameWedge]

She did 124 episodes.

[@RLucas3000]

I hope Niles makes guest appearances. And I would LOVE if Lilith ends up the Dean at the college where Frasier teaches! Their chemistry is lightning in a bottle!

[@fobbitoperator3620]

I wonder if Maris will be a featured cameo guest?

[@ricksantana1016]

⁠@@fobbitoperator3620 Very doubtful that you will ever see Maris, because she is still considered a wanted woman remember she escaped prosecution to a unknown South American country for the death of her Latin boyfriend…

[@shabbykat273]

My absolute favorite episode featured Niles…remember him trying to iron his slacks?

[@stst77]

@@ricksantana1016I didn’t know that.

[@lorettanericcio-bohlman567]

Doubt any of the originals will be back

[@sassy7766]

We watched all three shows he played Fraiser; Cheers, Wings and Frasier. Frasier being my favorite. It was such a perfect casting of Martin and Niles. Martin being so opposite of Fraiser and Niles was so entertaining. He dressed like my dad and my dad was on a cane alot. Dad loved the show too. But Niles was the absolute show stealer for me. He looked like Kelsey Grammar and acted just like Fraiser when he started on Cheers but was also so unique. The way he would sneak a sniff of Daphne’s hair, his descriptions of Maris, the constant competitions with Fraiser, and the over the top snark and sarcasm with Roz and countless others, was absolutely phenomenal and so funny.

[@loricamarata7647]

Agreed!

[@cathynewyork7918]

I briefly met David Hyde Pierce many years ago in Los Angeles at a charity event he was hosting. He was so down-to-earth and humble. I told him I loved his performance in his former sit-com, "The Powers That Be." He laughed and said I was the only one who watched that show! LOL.

[@cherylhulting1301]

Yep, they hired David and then he darned near walked off with the show! On paper Niles is just an impossible character but David made it work. I know a lot of "Frasier" fans who say that Niles is their favorite character.

[@cathynewyork7918]

@@cherylhulting1301 I so agree -- Niles is my favorite character on Frasier also. In an odd, un-related coincidence, my favorite character on The Nanny was also named Niles, the butler, played perfectly by Daniel Davis.

[@paulhanson5164]

They couldn't have gotten along too badly as Shelley was a guest on Frasier 3 times.

[@e-122psi3]

One of her first cameos was in fact Grammer's favourite as it allowed him to make peace with Long.

[@lonewave1]

The time Frasier and Niles went into a gay bar to find someone had to be one of the best episodes of so many!

[@kimberlyhalloran5724]

BAD BILLYS LOL

[@barbaragray5781]

Niles was gay in real life you know

[@VioletThorn47]

The view gorgeous, the chair hilarious 😂

[@lonewave1]

@@barbaragray5781 I heard that and he was suffering from dimentia? I never know if these are true and really going on in their real life. Their performance is what I look at and he's very good.

[@barbaragray5781]

@@lonewave1 I have no idea what you're talking about I did not say anyone on Frasier had dementia.

[@IMBrute-ir7gz]

I was a nightclub musician back in those days, and there was one Cheers casting choice that intertwined with my life: The old man in the brown fedora who always sat by the back wall. Every bar I ever played in had some version of that old guy perched on his favorite stool, pontificating his opinions on everything, including my musicianship! North or South, East or West, these old guys were everywhere! I hope they're still out there, God bless 'em!

[@meghanmisaliar]

The "old man" in Cheers was Rhea Perlmans father.

[@sclogse1]

We all become those guys.

[@carlcushmanhybels8159]

@@meghanmisaliar Ahah. Thanks.

[@peterd788]

The thing that made Frasier such a great show, aside from Kelsey's talent, was the incredible chemistry between the 4 leads. David Hyde Pierce had a real talent for physical comedy and wordplay. I don't know if that can be recaptured but I'll give it a try.

[@jimwalker5412]

Did you have a lovely day out with uncle Niles? "Yes, he showed me how to open the toilet door without touching the handle", absolutely brilliant.

[@Rob_Kates]

Kelsey studied acting at the Juilliard School in NY. So did Robin Williams and Christopher Reeve.

[@kathyk4701]

I always thought that Kelsey could play the legendary Bob Hope if the ever made a biopic of his life. He has a strong resemblance to a younger Bob Hope.

[@heatherwhittaker6169]

I liked Shelly's character..That was great acting ,a great character.Kelsey had her on Frazier more than once.

[@FactsVerse]

One of our favorites too, you've got taste! What other types of video would you like to see?

[@mercatorjubio3804]

"There remains a sucking chest wound, where once there dwelled a heart!" ... priceless. xD

[@TaDarling1]

I remember seeing the character of Diane on one particularly hilarious episode of Frasier where she once again 'screwed' Frasier over for another man. I don't remember seeing her a second time.

[@mercatorjubio3804]

@@TaDarling1 I think they even got an Emmy for that episode, if I remember correctly. That was pure gold.

[@judywhiting1675]

@@TaDarling1 she was on a second time with LILITH.and his first hippy wife.. .they were arguing in the car(supposedly in Frasier's head)...funny

[@56postoffice]

I've always prefered *"Fraiser"* over *"Friends,"* which started around that mid 90s period. Never knew Kelsey was supposed to be in just 3 episodes of *"Cheers."* Comedy classic. UK fan.👍

[@user-zp7jp1vk2i]

That's USUALLY the way it happens.

[@TaDarling1]

Kelsey Grammer is a true talent. In addition to creating the character of Frasier, he brought the memorable character of Sideshow Bob to life simply by doing his voice, in the long-running cartoon The Simpsons. It's also my understanding that he created and executive produced the show "Girlfriends" which was essentially a version of Sex and the City but with an ensemble, all African American cast.

[@nursenicole222]

I forgot about Side Show Bob😂

[@baileyyard5116]

There was an episode with Side Show Bob that featured his "Brother" which was, of course, voiced by David Hyde Pierce. Bob I believe was trying to prevent his brother from allowing a poorly built dam his brother had intentionally built badly from collapsing. He was trying to embezzle some of the money earmarked for the dam's construction and blame it all on Bob. I don't remember the exact details of the episode but the ending was funny with both characters arguing over who gets the top bunk in prison.

[@TaDarling1]

@@baileyyard5116 I remember that episode. At the end Bob ended up getting arrested along with his brother because Chief Wiggum didn't believe him to be innocent.

[@abigailslade3824]

His portrayal as Beast in the X-men films was pure class too.

[@abigailslade3824]

@@TaDarling1the extra bonus was side shows Bob’s brother was voiced by the actor who played Nile’s, Fraisers brother.

[@user-kb9cu4rl9z]

I met Kelsey and his wife at a birthday party in Santa Barbara. He was kind and gracious calling me by name throughout the evening and allowing me a selfie. Cheers and Frasier are two of the best shows ever. I am presently reading director James Burrows' wonderful book called Directed by James Burrows.

[@FactsVerse]

Fun stuff, thank you so much for sharing your life story. We're happy to know that you had a fun time with Gene. Which of his roles appealed to you the most?

[@deejaye2647]

Sure Jan

[@havitcold]

Kelsey played Chuck Smith in the movie The Jesus Revolution just released, and he was great in the movie. Everyone should support Kelsey and go see it.

[@allipat401]

That was a good movie and worth seeing. Grammer did a great job.

[@JasonWalkerJamaica]

He did a great job!

[@johnschuh8616]

I just wish they would have shown Kelsey preaching more. He really is good at that sort of oratory.

[@lesliemonty31]

It is a great movie! I'm happy it's doing well.

[@caroldonaldson5936]

Unfortunately he is about 30 years too old to play a 40 year old guy as Chuck Smith was at the time - ridiculous!

[@suzboeh633]

It has been reported that Shelley Long had a particular acting process which involved long times before shooting and long costume fitting sessions. I have also heard that Kelsey on Frasier that did not like rehearsals and preferred to do only one take, reacting to the other actors in ways they might not be prepared for. Perhaps the truth is somewhere in the middle. I feel that Shelley Long made the right decision to leave after 5 seasons when the character had been fully explored. Cheers was a better series as a whole with the end of the Sam and Diane story line giving the series new life. Long and Grammer were both brilliant in their roles. as was the entire cast.

[@Historian212]

I agree with your points about Long, but disliked the show after she left. I watched on and off, but never liked the Rebecca character or how inept they made her.

[@OK-ul9kr]

Liked Cheers better with Diane

[@Chloe-th2lg]

I didn’t like the show after Diane left and really disliked the Rebecca character. I didn’t like the Frazier character either on Cheers. Too much of a high brow wimp! But, Frasier is one of my favorite series. It was the combination of the other characters, his father, Niles, the dog, and Daphne that made it the funniest tv show that I’ve ever watched.

[@wolfgangdevries127]

The Sam and Diane story was too much of a good thing. Milked for too long, but that's life.. one can't have it all.

[@lorijones9579]

They had a decent enough relationship that she was invited to appear on the Frasier series, multiple times.

[@simonballard6413]

I have always been a great fan of Shelley and she was kind enough to send me a lovely signed photo, which I treasure.

[@leesashriber5097]

Such a great show!! I actually liked the show better when the late Kirstie Alley joined the show. We all don't get along with everyone but you just keep moving. 😊 What's amazing is Shelley Long appeared on Frasier. Great upload ❣️ Thank you my friends 😊

[@jamesmcinnis208]

"actually"

[@FactsVerse]

Our pleasure! We're glad to know that you love our video. If we may ask, what other types of video would you like to see on our channel?

[@allan9603]

We all miss Kirstie here in Wichita, her home town. RIP

[@jeffyp2483]

im pretty sure all the Cheers gang made at least one appearance on Frasier. even Paul😀

[@mellawes533]

So sad that Niles isn't coming back also. Frasier was a brilliant show with Niles and Fraser's banter some of the best humour in the show! Same with their father..RIP. He is irreplacable! Roz's role in the show as Frasier's Producer will be really missed also

[@jessiehaislet3625]

Frazier was the funniest sit com ever. I still watch it and no matter how many times I’ve seen the episodes, I still belly laugh. The whole cast was great especially Frazier and Niles.

[@lynnestamey7272]

My favorite was Eddy the dog. He was great!

[@kevinthomas4171]

The single best sitcom ever done, hands down.

[@greenbeagle13]

I never got into Cheers, mainly because I was working most of the time when it was playing, but I thought Frasier was one of the funniest shows I have ever watched. I was working graveyard shift and got the videos from Netflix and watched the entire series like that. Hilarious show.

[@aliciachristopher6506]

I never liked the show, even after Kirstie Alley joined the show.

[@pennPi]

The dad and the little dog were the best. RIP

[@aliciachristopher6506]

@@pennPi Eddie was my favorite Crane,

[@baileyyard5116]

You know there was an episode of Saint Elsewhere in which the doctors stopped in at cheers for a drink. Both the hospital and of course the bar were located in Boston. Wasn't a long appearance, but was cute how they mixed "Cheers" humor with "Saint Elsewhere's" drama. No Cliff "Brain Jokes" unfortunately... LOL

[@kaylasoma]

If he disliked Shelly so much why did he give her a guest appearance on his show Fraiser ??

[@ollielindsay]

Ratings.

[@kathywiebusch3687]

Loved Frazier. Cast meshed beautifully. Classic hilarious moments.

[@larryhardee1914]

Frazier and Niles rank right up there with Barney and Andy. After watching reruns every week day for a while, I found I couldn’t keep from laughing nonstop. Seattle will never be looked at as the same after those two played it to the hilt.

[@FactsVerse]

Well said, we strongly concur! Thank you for watching our content and for sharing your thoughts. What other types of video would you like to see?

[@larryhardee1914]

@@FactsVerse For whatever it’s worth, I sometimes think about To Catch A Thief, The Immortal, and the variety shows of that time.

[@larryhardee1914]

@@FactsVerse Maybe the musicians who had tv specials. Who were they. Who rated the highest.

[@marcpadilla1094]

It was magnificent. The chemistry and dialogue was perfect. A whole day/ night in the life in 30 minutes. Creative genius.

[@kve1247]

Cheers was one of my ALL TIME FAVORITE SHOWS!🤩but, IMO, FRASIER was/is THE BEST!! I’ve NEVER laughed so hard in my life!!🤣🤣”A” ONE in my book!👌🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

[@meghanmisaliar]

I love how Frazier just went on to become "one of the guys". Its hard to believe that Frazier was there w Coach for one season. Im in the middle of my bi-yearly Cheers binge. My God this show is STILL hilarious!!!😉

[@thefluffyboosh4899]

Both Cheers and Frasier were my favorite shows in the 80's and 90's. The writing, the acting, the timing. I loved those shows! But early Cheers (Sam and Diane) was my most favorite. I get it, that relationship couldn't have kept going... so it needed to end. But their whole dynamic and chemistry- well, it was really fun to watch. I rewatched the whole series during Covid and it was pretty enlightening. Having had a relationship end that completely mirrored Sam and Diane was, well, sobering.

[@FactsVerse]

We're happy to know that your'e a fan of Cheers. Which episode is the most memorable for you?

[@TaDarling1]

I loved ALL those shows...Cheers, Frasier, Wings, Taxi, Night Court and even WKRP in Cincinnati which was a 70s show that they tried to re-do in the 80s.

[@carpballet]

“Stellar cast and incredible writers” Lol times one million

[@bradmenpes809]

Cheers and Frazier. Top shelf writing and acting. Perhaps today's television showrunners could watch both of them and take notes?

[@77bronc14]

Being a child of the 60's I watched some of the most iconic TV shows ever, but IMO, Fraser by far is the funniest shows ever made. Kelsey Grammar is a fantastic actor.

[@arthurwild5734]

No show has made me laugh as hard and often as Frasier. It is like medicine to me. Frasier and Niles are, to me, the greatest comedy duo ever!

[@dkerr4077]

A fine actor that's had a sad, and tragic life. His sister murdered, and two brothers lost in a diving accident.

[@FactsVerse]

Well said, we strongly concur! Thank you for watching our content and for sharing your thoughts. What other types of video would you like to see?

[@cathynewyork7918]

Who are you talking about? Who had a sister murdered and two brothers lost in a diving accident?

[@boabysukslargecoke2819]

@@cathynewyork7918 Kelsey Grammer

[@user-pb2vo4pt3t]

His Dad was murdered too.

[@InstantKarma523]

🕊️🕯️R.I.P. Kirstie Alley! You truly made me laugh! You will be missed 🙏🫶🌹

[@macwyll]

My teenage love was a girl who looked EXACTLY like Kirstie facially (she was actually 6ft tall). We broke up, and man was it interesting watching Cheers with Kirstie for awhile! LOL. She and I are still in touch to this day after 44 years and she STILL resembles Kirstie.

[@artchem1]

I believe Kelsey Grammar had his own wit, and his own way of production a speaking part in the beginning. He is a Brilliant Writer ! I'm certain he would inflict his own charm of his charismatic personality, on both Cheers, 🖼 & especially Frasier. Well Done, Mr. Grammar ♥️🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🇬🇧🎨

[@chrisubias7135]

Another role Kesley was in X-Men. When I heard he would play Hank McCoy I was absolutely happy. I was a avid comic book reader in the early 70s. I thought the choice was great as I saw him as one of the best selection for superhero movies

[@richstewart1]

Watched Kelsey in Boss. I didn't think about Frasier once. In my mind, the sign of a great actor.

[@maryoleary2037]

Frasier was my all time favourite comedy. A reboot would be wonderful. However, without the characters of Martin (deceased), Niles, Daphne and Roz, who have declined to participate, who is left? They were the main characters. You can't recreate the show with Bulldog, Bebe and a few other assorted and occasional actors.

[@FactsVerse]

We're a big fan of Frasier too. Which episode is the most memorable for you?

[@maryoleary2037]

@@FactsVerse So many, but one of the best is when Niles is ironing his pants and catches the couch on fire.

[@kimcornelissen1529]

well it's the same as saying Frasier crane spinoff without the rest of the main cast of Cheers. Fraise was fantastic with Roz , Niles, Daphne and Martin ect so I see this 2023 addition really just another chapter of Frasier Crane's life.

[@sandracushing8907]

It's not quite the same, if you look at the development of characters on each show.. Cheers was a huge ensemble set in a bar. Frazier was a more personal and familial setting. The secondary characters stood out more. I will miss Daphne and Niles especially

[@moonshinefiftyseven6063]

Apparently you didn't watch this to the end. It was announced that there is a reboot in the works.

[@benicio1967]

We quote lines from Frasier almost daily in our home. We are addicted fans. The casting was the best.

[@philsarkol6443]

Kirsty Ally was such a funny and beautifull actress...known for being straight-up honest and authentic. Loved to see her..sadly passed away too soon. Grammer is such a natural comedic actor with nuances that are lying underneath. His talent was thus that he quickly got his own show..Frazer being his best character!

[@richardjohnson4238]

I was, and still am I suppose, "In love" with Diane...I thought she was just the cutest thing to ever walk shoe leather...and later with Roz on Fraiser. Kelsey? I haven't seen him in anything where I didn't like him. "Up Periscope" was a riot. My wife and I watch two episodes of "Fraiser" before bed to this day. When we get to the end, we just start over. My wife suffered a ruptured aneurysm in her brain many years ago, and it has affected her memory, so for her, it's a lot like a new show every week.

[@michaelwaller7365]

It's wonderful that the two of you have that to share now. I agree with you on Kelsey's acting. I really enjoyed "Swing Vote" with Kevin Costner, Kelsey, Dennis Hopper, etal. My thoughts are with you two, from Montana.

[@richardjohnson4238]

@@michaelwaller7365 Thank you my friend I've never met.

[@jeanetteh.9240]

That's a lovely thing you and your wife do before bed.

[@davefairburn3298]

When Cheers first came out, it was the bottom of the ratings. Word got out that it was sharply, well acted & very funny.

[@MajesticalHonky]

Today it would be cancelled before it found its footing.

[@jameshuseby6290]

Same with Steinfeld

[@dontcringe3852]

I remember watching the premiere of Cheers. I was immediately hooked.

[@loricamarata7647]

@@MajesticalHonky Today EVERYTHING would be cancelled that was made in EVERY decade! To people who cancel, NOTHING is valid except their own narrow vision! Cheers & Frasier will always stand the test of time because funny translates through the decades🤷‍♀️

[@TeamCat1128]

I rewatched every Cheers episode during the pandemic (yes, I’m proud of myself😅). What a great show. It surprised me how different times were back then, however.

[@dennishalford5763]

By far, the most intelligently written, funniest, best acted sitcom ever on the air! Ted Danson always gave the brilliant Shelley Long credit for putting Cheers "on the map." She was from day one my favorite! Also, the first two years Cheers was on the air, it was at the bottom of the Nielsen ratings. Thank goodness the executive at NBC who had the power to cancel the show refused to cancel it because he was a fan of the show! It eventually made its way to the top of the Nielsen ratings. It just took time for audiences to discover how wonderful the show was/is.

[@jamesbrice6619]

That's great, because usually network executives kill good shows

[@cathynewyork7918]

The comedy Frasier won the Emmy for Best Comedy five years! Kelsey Grammar and David Hyde Pierce each won for best actor four times. So Frasier is the best comedy ever to be on the air. All in the Family was truly groundbreaking, so that is also the best comedy. Both better than Cheers.

[@pazza4555]

IIRC, Ken Levine also said that Shelley had a particular process which worked for her but was a pain for others, but he also emphasized that she had the trickiest character to play because she had to make Diane annoying but still likeable. No one would want to watch a character that was purely annoying. He has a blog about his work on MASH, Cheers, and Frasier. Great stuff

[@cathynewyork7918]

@@pazza4555 Since Shelley Long was part of the team of actors playing Cheers, she had an obligation to work well with the other actors and not make their lives miserable on the set. Don't excuse her alleged bad behavior by saying she had "a process." She owed it to the others to be pleasant.

[@cathynewyork7918]

All that you wrote here is true of Frasier, the best sit-com ever. Second would be All in the Family.

[@stevenvelazquez2841]

I binged watched Cheers, every single episode, for 3 months and I could have watched 20 more episodes. I loved the characters development and how the bar itself was one of the main characters. Who would have ever thought that Woody Harrelson would turn out to be the most successful actor coming out of Cheers. I was a bit disappointed how Rebecca was just married off to Tom Beringer in the last episode, I thought that was lazy writing. This was a great show and characters like Cliff, Norm, Coach, Woody made you feel as if you knew them personally and became part of our culture. Bravo!!!

[@peterrukavena4955]

Harrelson MIGHT of turned out to be the most successful actor but Danson made the most money. Harrelson was NEVER the lead actor or top billed in any of his successful movies. Danson never really had a huge movie career but he was given a shot at a lead roll in the film Cousins, he just never generated enough buzz as a lead. His TV career however, (Cheers, Becker, CSI) if you ask me trumps what Harrelson did in film as a supporting actor.

[@rebeccafreelin7515]

Diane and Frazier were great characters. The problem is Long did not understand Hollywood and got a big head. Grammer is a great actor and understood the ups and downs of stardom, that is why he still is a relevant actor to this day.

[@RavenThom]

Loved Shelly, Kelsey was a one trick pony, boring

[@gracieb.3054]

In what world is Grammar "relevant" to this day? What is the last thing anyone has noticed him appearing in?

[@rebeccafreelin7515]

@@gracieb.3054 I presume you don't watch any instructional programming or go to NYC for shows.

[@jaimefio643]

Frazier was and remains one of the very best shows ever!!!

[@Junkysnake]

Kelsey Is so underrated.

[@charicole7745]

I liked Frasier the best as the brother and father were also hysterical on that show.

[@christineabedini3765]

Good to know that we can expect a reboot this year. It was always a great. I continue to watch episodes of Frasier weekly on one of the antenna TV stations.

[@nysavvy9241]

Most of this is ridiculous. Kelsey had Shelly guest starring on Frasier many times. He was in charge, and if he had an issue with her she wouldn't have made a single appearance on his show. Shelley had ideas of a big movie career which unfortunately never happened for her. That's the reason she left Cheers. I loved Kirstie....God rest her sweet soul. As for the reboot, not sure. I'll tune in...perhaps magic can strike a second time, however without Jane, Peri, and David I don't see how.

[@macwyll]

I agree. Without at least some of the original ensemble I believe it may be difficult for fans of the old series to adapt

[@lilibetp]

Shelly was on Frasier one time. Ted and Woody each had one solo episode and most of the cast was on one (really boring, imho) episode set in Boston.

[@nysavvy9241]

@@lilibetp No, Shelly was on Frasier 3 episodes...1994...1996 and 2001.

[@lilibetp]

@@nysavvy9241 oops, you're right. I always forget about the dream sequence and the one with all of Frasier's women as I find them both pretty boring and skip them.

[@LouisEmery]

Frasier had a lot of charisma as a pompous character, who always had some kind of comeuppance. Kind of like Hyacinth of the British sitcom "keeping up appearances".

[@djmcnerney]

Kelsey also did a great job playing a hard-boiled mayor of Chicago in a short-lived series a few years ago. I think it was called “Boss.” I wish it had stayed on the air longer.

[@briantranter4317]

i agree ,

[@rubenoteiza9261]

It was too dark and it seems he did his utmost to make of his character the most despicable, unlikable douchebag ever, maybe to compensate for all the many light moments he had brought to his audiences, to show he could also do hardcore drama, but he really went overboard. For example Mr. Mayor would incarcerate his own estranged daughter to score political points with his electorate and would also be in the habit of receiving visitors in his office while still in the adjacent bathroom doing his business with the door wide open and he would come out to shake their hand without even washing his. So I could understand why it was so short lived, that is not the kind of stuff his fans wanted to see. Of course he blamed the demise of the show of politics but it was the content.

[@auntlala4971]

Loved that show!

[@gardenlover9663]

I enjoyed it, too. Intense. Diabolical.

[@sueparras6028]

One of my favorite shows. As a matter of fact I just finished watching it a couple of minutes ago. I watch Frasier every day almost. ❤❤

[@kmsleyang8972]

When Kelsey walks in at 3:40 he looks just like David Hyde Pierce. They were right in casting him as his brother because they thought he looked like a younger Kelsey.

[@RH-tv9hk]

I thought so too! When Sam appeared on Frasier and met Niles, he told him he looked like Frasier when he was young🤣

[@user-uy2dp1dh4h]

I absolutely Love Cheers favorite show of all time. I love the thanks giving episode most fondly because as a kid I loved Christmas and Thanksgiving most.

[@FactsVerse]

We're happy to know that you love the show. In your opinion, what is its best episode?

[@blinko656]

Kirstie Alley was a great actress and a great woman. God bless her.

[@kathypeterson13]

The entire cast decided not to be part of the new show ? Nah that’s not a reboot then

[@Randall1001]

One of my favorite Frasier/Cheers moments: Cliff going on one of his long-winded, totally wrong and utterly crazy speeches about something or other. Frasier sitting next to him, staring at Cliff the entire time. Then when Cliff's finished, Frasier makes a perfect comedic pause and then carefully asks, "Cliff, what color is the sky in your world?" First time I'd EVER heard that line (I assume it was invented by the writers of the show) and it's become a mainstay. And it STILL cracks me up because of the way Kelsey Grammar delivered it.

[@AsianFlew]

I didn't discover Cheers until it was probably in it's third season, then kicked myself for not watching it sooner. Such a great show! Frazier is a very worthy spin-off show too. Both are still funny. I just hope the new Frazier show lives up to it's predecessors and not go the way of the new Night Court, which I think is horrible and only worth seeing for John Larroquette.

[@adellajones9887]

I love Kelsey Grammer. He has been through so much but has been an inspiration.

[@FactsVerse]

Beautiful words, thank you for your message for Kelsey. In your opinion, what is his finest role?

[@Kelnx]

@@FactsVerse I can't answer for the OP, but my personal favorite role Kelsey Grammar played was LCDR Dodge in "Down Periscope". As a former submariner, that's consider one of the best sub movies ever by most of us, and Grammar's character was perfect in it.

[@chrysanthemumfan214]

My beloved parents ADORED the show "Frasier". Dad died before the news hit of the reboot, so he didn't even know it was coming. But I told Mom about it and she was all excited. Alas, alack, she, too, died before the reboot appeared. And I couldn't wait to watch it with her. :-(

[@michaelhollister7932]

I think the producers' assessment was right on the money . . . Kelsey deserved the "promotion" to stay on the show because of his skills as an actor, and that to suggest otherwise does, in fact, short-change what Kelsey brought to the character. It was a great show, with great actors and writing!

[@brucehutch5419]

Interesting insight into cheers into Shelly and Kelsey Grammer. Cheers and Frasier are among my favorite all-time shows. I grew out of TV when they went digital and I'd never got a conversion box. I started watching television as a Four-year-old just past the literal dawn of commercial television. Kukla Fran and Ollie Days.

[@benkeel2966]

Kelsey is a true gentleman. His fan base is enormous❤

[@andrewpinkham9904]

i prefer to look at Kelseys new show as a stand alone show even if they try and dove tail it with the past.I didnt know one was in the works.I look forward to seeing him again

[@peterpan4480]

If Long and Grammer didn’t get along. Then why did Grammer have her on Fraiser?

[@kathycritser3932]

I adored Kelsey loved his series spin-off. Hope the new show will do well

[@summer20105707]

I loved both of them. But Shelley wanted to get into movies. Shelley brought a touch of class to the show and Frasier was more of an intellectual. Bless them both.

[@Choochill]

I think a Frasier reboot could work. I mean, whatever role Kelsey Grammer plays on a sitcom, he'll always be Frasier to us anyway. Might be weird if he was any other character.

[@znrgybalance8703]

I want to add that Shelley Long made a few appearances on Frasier, so It's hard to believe she was hated or disliked by Kelsey. If you despised someone so much, I don't think you'd invite them to be on your show years later. Silly nilly.

[@marybarry2230]

I rarely watched Cheers, however, when Frasier came on, I wouldn’t miss an episode! I loved all the characters!😊

[@FactsVerse]

We're very happy to know that you're a fan of Frasier. Which episode is the most memorable for you?

[@marybarry2230]

@@FactsVerse are you kidding?! There were so many!, but one of my favorites was when Frasers dad had a date to stay overnight, and Fraser was all discombobulated about it! “ Banger?”😄 Favorite part of every show was trying to figure out who the guest voice was, who called in to Frasier! Great stuff!

[@gl3913]

When David Hyde Pierce was offered the chance to reprise his role of Dr. Niles Crane by Grammer, Pierce wanted more money and a larger presence of his legendary character in the re-boot of FRASIER. Grammer said no to what Pierce wanted and so Pierce then said no to the re-boot.

[@bucketlist1422]

How do you know this? 🤔

[@gl3913]

@@bucketlist1422 There was a news article that was released sometime after the first of this year about it. If you do a Google search for it, you should be able to find the info.

[@DWtechfan]

Source? Or is this a rumor? I mean it kinda makes sense but the internet is full of false things like this.

[@gl3913]

@@DWtechfan It is not a rumor at all. I remember it was either a news article from Daily Mail Online or from here on KZbin where the info came from.

[@susanriddle9408]

He is busy working on the Julia Child show

[@e-122psi3]

Funnily enough, Long's cameo role as Diane in Frasier was a means for both the characters and their actors to make peace. Grammer even listed it as one of his favourite episodes as a result.

[@FactsVerse]

Fun stuff, thanks for sharing! What other types of video would you like to see?

[@rockace1240]

You ought to see Mr Kelsey Grammer new movie I have been a fan of Kelsey Grammer since his days on cheers this brother is legend in t.v. and in Hollywood God Bless Kelsey Grammer a honorable conservative

[@strongsmarthappy5970]

I'm running with scissors ! Lol !!! RIP Kirsty Alley. She reminded of Lucille Ball sometimes.

[@carltonreese4854]

It looked at first that Frasier was going to be the straight man on Cheers, but he had some subtly funny lines that Grammer turned to gold. It was clear that character had to remain on the show and with Long's departure, the Frasier character was actually needed for that intellectual balance relied on so heavily by the writers who weren't relying on simple slapstick or sexual innuendo comedy which are low hanging fruit.

[@RH-tv9hk]

And Shelley was on Frasier three times, while Kirstie was the only main cast member to not appear on Frasier

[@roxyloveslucy]

When Cheers ended, the producers sent the set to the bar in Boston that was the inspiration, now is actually called Cheers. It has been reassembled on an upper floor, above the old original bar, and you can drink there. On a stool or at a table. Original stuff. its brilliant.

[@diginot8590]

Shelley long was great on Cheers. I don’t think she deserves all their hate.

[@truthreignsforever9286]

I loved ❤️❤️❤️Shelly Long in “Cave man” with Ringo Star. Such a slapstick cult classic 😂

[@FactsVerse]

One of our favorites too, you've got taste! What other types of video would you like to see?

[@farrellmcnulty909]

At that point, she'd gone from local furniture commercials to a local talk show on NBC, then Caveman, then....say what anyone likes to say about her, she kicked ass as Carol Brady in the Brady Bunch movies. 😅😅😅😅

[@michaelrochester48]

I just met Kelsey Grammer at the steel city comicon. He is a very nice and personable guy

[@thyslop1737]

Cheers great show. Incredible cast. Shelley Long was great as Diane. Kristie Alley was good, but better with Shelley Long.

[@bloqk16]

Shelley Long being the person she was behind-the-scenes at 'Cheers' is of no surprise. Years ago on an entertainment cable-TV show [US] about the TV series 'Cheers,' I recall Ted Danson's comments about Long when she was up to negotiating her contract for renewal, where he said in effect, that there was a lot of the 'Diane Chambers' character in Long when she was dealing with the executive producers; where she negotiated herself out of Cheers. I've always had that impression that the 'Diane Chambers' character on 'Cheers' was not much of an acting stretch for Shelley Long.

[@ronblack7870]

i remember him saying he had nothing good to say at the time. i think he was upset that she was torpedoing the show by her leaving.

[@Jenifer_R_]

Frasier had a strong ensemble cast. The best shows have them - Cheers, Seinfeld, Modern Family, 3rd Rock, Community... No single character carries the entire show. To expect a Fraiser reboot to work with one character and a hostile audience demanding to know where Niles and Daphne are is a big ask.