Kemper Player with MIDI controller

A rundown of my Kemper Player pedalboard.
M-Vave Chocolate MIDI controller is used to get extra switches for Kemper control.
(This is a cheap controller you can get at Wish and Temu). It is wireless/bluetooth but can also be used with USB-cable connected to Kemper Player.
The M-vave Chocolate also has a jack female input for an analog switch or an expression pedal. I use this to connect a simple switch which can also be used to send MIDI commands. And since the controller is using bluetooth I can use it to turn pages on Forscore sheet music reader.
All MIDI commands used is listed in the end of the video.
Hope this will be helpful to some of you!

[@FelixWasWolf]

Genius! This solves a big problem for me, thanks for the Demo!

[@ewanbyrne]

On the player can you setup that the effect button does like the same function for every rig? So say when you tap button 2, just a basic reverb comes on?

[@MusikOchProduktion]

Yes, you can set that switch button 2 for example turns on FX slot 4 etc. globally so to say.

[@stageblastrecords]

Can you change banks? By clicking two buttons at once for example?

[@albertomantoiu9901]

Hi! I did the same thing, about Fake Morph and programmed as it has to be. The only problem is that if i press A wich is bank 1-1 on KPP, again A wich is 2-1 in KPP and after i press B for another preset like 1-2 with 2-2, if i wanna come back to 1-1 on A, it will be 2-1. The conclusion is that the switch A is not coming back as it was, like 1-1. What am i doin wrong? Any other PC or CC 😢messages?

[@isackvazquez1055]

Could you leave me the link of exactly what I need to buy everything at once on Amazon 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@MusikOchProduktion]

The products are in my description. Here's the MIDI-controller: www.amazon.se/-/en/Chocolate-Wireless-Controller-Rechargeable-Portable/dp/B0C4LNT18J

[@guibollini6141]

How did you connect&set the small switch to the mvave chocolate? Is it a TRS cable (stereo)?

[@MusikOchProduktion]

Yes its supposed to be a TRS cable. But since only one switch button is programmable on M-vave I used a standard guitar patch cable (and removed the second switch I wasn't gonna use anyway)

[@rogerthompson1011]

ok I just got mine, ready to set up. I see you have the usb cable between the kemper and the m vave. Is this just for charging or does midi signal pass through the usb cable?

[@MusikOchProduktion]

It does pass MIDI-signal also 👍

[@marcelpacifico8533]

Do you have the possibility to set the m-wave switches for the slots on the player? I need a solution to choose a slot directly, at least for Slot 1-4 (e.g. from Slot 1 directly to Slot 4) without going through slot 2 and 3. Thanks for sharing this Video!seems to be a good working solution which is cheap too

[@MusikOchProduktion]

Sure do! To send command to switch to a specific rig is a little weird: First you send a command CC47 with value bank number (CC47 2 for bank 2), then the Kemper idles and wait for second command which is the rig slot, CC50 1 for slot 1. CC51 1 for slot 2, CC52 1 for slot 3 etc. So if you want to load the rig in bank 3, slot 5 you send two commands: CC47 3 CC54 1

[@marcelpacifico8533]

Thanks so far! The M-Wave just arrived and honestly I have no clue how to send commands, how to set them up, nor where to start. The M-Wave is connected with the player through the USB-c to USB-A cable and the Player is connected to the computer, on which I use the Rig Manager. Do you have any tips how to start? @@MusikOchProduktion

[@mrcrowley73]

I suppose you used mode C on mvave sending CC to kpp.Have you tried with PC in mode A?thx a lot

[@MusikOchProduktion]

Yes, I´m sending CC-commands. It is supposed to work with PC too I think, but I've had no luck getting it to work 🤔

[@manujate]

Wish you have how to set it up clip :) Thank you for inspiration

[@user-zs9ex9lw1m]

Hi, tnx for video. Can you help pls, i cant find that. I will use A like Rig Prev, B like rig next, but i cant find needed CC commands.

[@MusikOchProduktion]

Acctually, that seems like a tough one. I haven't figured that one out yet. Only banks up and down 🤔

[@pitaorj]

I`m trying to send CC commands from the chocolate midi to the kemper, using the same port as you and I have no sucess. did you use some special setup to make the chocolate midi send midi over the usb c port???

[@MusikOchProduktion]

Not at all. I just plugged in the usb cable and setup the settings in cube suite. Have you used my settings in the end of the video?

[@pitaorj]

@@MusikOchProduktion It was a bad cable, I´ve tried a different one and it works like a charm. thank you for your help and keep the good work.

[@recoverify]

With a profiler player on It's way, I'm seriously considering getting a M Vave Chocolate as well to go with it. Did you found out the commands to send to the Kemper by trial and error, or are they mentioned somewhere in the Kempers manual? If I do pull the trigger I will probably use the four buttons to turn the 4 effect blocks on and of in the profiler. Thanks!

[@MusikOchProduktion]

The basic commands are in the Player manual, I think some of them I found in the Kemper Profiler main manual that worked for the Player model too. Turn off the four FX slots are no problems 👍

[@recoverify]

Thanks! Good to hear. I was also wondering what cable you use to connect it to the player? I read that the chocolate isn't happy with any old TRS cable.@@MusikOchProduktion

[@MusikOchProduktion]

@@recoverifyActually it’s plug and play between the Kemper and Chocolate with a standard USB-C to USB-A cable 👍 It even gets power/charge from the Kemper USB.

[@recoverify]

@@MusikOchProduktion Perfect! Thanks for the answers! 🙌🏻

[@therealsandeman]

Great info, thank you. What tool did you use to manage the controller?

[@MusikOchProduktion]

Cubesuite. It´s the software that comes with the pedal

[@DToneQuest]

i bought both of those footswitches when i preordered the player, how did you connect the dual switch to midi ipad control?

[@MusikOchProduktion]

The footswitch for my iPad is connected to M-wave Chocolate with a standard jack cable. The chocolate is paired with my iPad through bluetooth 👍

[@DToneQuest]

@@MusikOchProduktion nice

[@docrock2199]

I don't get it. How can I tell this controller that he should use the D-Switch to turn fx1 on/off?

[@MusikOchProduktion]

I have not been able set the FX-hardware buttons to a CC-command. Only specific slots like in my video (the commands are in the end of the video) Here´s a thread where I try to solve there FX1/FX2-problem: www.kemper-amps.com/forum/thread/62706-midi-cc-command-to-turn-on-off-fx1-fx2/?postID=672436#post672436

[@derbasti1987]

Did you somehow manage to utilise "E" and "F". They are not assignable in the app. My actual idea is to set A-D for Rig 1-4 and E and F for Bank Up / Down. But I cannot assign E and F

[@MusikOchProduktion]

No I did not 🤔 There seem to be a bit of false advertising regarding that function. There is some sort of ”group”-function but not in the mode we’re using. Google the manual or ”Cubesuite group E” or something to check it out 🤷‍♂️😅 forum.mod.audio/t/midi-chocolate-controller-with-the-mod-dwarf-an-introduction/7003

[@derbasti1987]

Ill do that. Thx - awesome idea. Glad I found your solution, its just awesome :)@@MusikOchProduktion

[@marcelpacifico8533]

I am switching banks with a longer "press and hold" on A (Bank Up) and B (Bank down). If that would be more comfortable for you too instead of pressing two buttons the same time :)

[@MusikOchProduktion]

Yeah, I also do it similar. But I think wants a button combination more: A, B, C, D, and the two combinations more E and F when pressing to buttons at the same time.@@marcelpacifico8533

I bought a Kemper player and would like my DAW to control it via USB/Midi. Is it possible? I can do it at the Kemper stage. I already use it like this. But I can't do it in the player. Can you help me?

[@MusikOchProduktion]

Absolutely, that should be just as easy as with the Stage. Just plug in USB cable from Player to the computer and it should be the same process as with the Stage. You don't need any MIDI-cables. The Player will show up as an interface in your DAW. /Stefan

Yes, it appears, but I create the MIDI commands for the program changes and nothing happens :/

[@MusikOchProduktion]

@ Actually I haven't been successful with program changes either. But it should work to send CC-commands instead like the ones in my video. To send command to switch to a specific rig is a little weird: First you send a command CC47 with value bank number (CC47 2 for bank 2), then the Kemper idles and wait for second command which is the rig slot, CC50 1 for slot 1. CC51 1 for slot 2, CC52 1 for slot 3 etc. So if you want the rig in bank 3, slot 5 you send two commands: CC47 3 CC54 1

Hummmmmmmm I don’t really know how to add these values, but I understood the logic behind it. I’ll try.

[@MusikOchProduktion]

@ Try google your DAW and "send CC commands"

[@tsachou]

not bad

[@buddyslowhand7647]

People want a Kemper player to have a small rig. But with all the additional stuff wich is needed, I'm better of with the Kemper stage that has all in one. Would have liked the player also, but too many limitations... it's not for me.

[@MusikOchProduktion]

Yeah, I kind of agree. There sure are some limitations. For me mostly the lack of display 😏 But this rig is half the price of a Stage so I will try to work around the limitations 😅

[@diecaverna]

The kemper stage is sucks! I had 3 and 2 of them came out defective, especially with the Tap Tempo switch! Delay and reverb freeze sometimes 🤦‍♂️😡! I’m not the only one! The best is the Head or Rack!

[@MusikOchProduktion]

Oh man, that sucks @@diecaverna 🙁

[@guitartoneSA]

@@diecaverna Nonsense.