“It’s like sitting in on Drake’s incredibly revealing session with the worlds meanest therapist” every time I hear Meet the Grahams I’m gonna think of this
@brunogamer7774 ай бұрын
i always imaginate the situation like if kendrick had kidnap every member of the grahams, put em strapped on a chair and start walking around them while he recite the lyrics lol
@ktbecstasy4 ай бұрын
Ken's pen is 🔥🔥🔥
@via20144 ай бұрын
@@brunogamer777that reminds me of an episode of Criminal minds. Locked the family up and brought allll of the skeletons out of the closet
@piemcdowell4 ай бұрын
And even if Drake lied about his fake daughter, the track still clears! “You lied about your daughter.” Even if it was a lie, it’s mad disrespectful to Adonis.
@RichSpirit004 ай бұрын
The only song I can describe meet the grahams too is Kim by slim shady just like that song I can visualize every word Kendrick rapped like a horror movie the stranger type vibes shit was spooky as hell and I loved it
@Dotmw4 ай бұрын
The lack of musical shifts in this song makes it fucking sinister imo. No rest, no reprieve, no change in the formula. Just a sinister melody on piano as Kendrick pulls Drake apart
@BacchusAurelius-yj4mb4 ай бұрын
Beat is relentless, just like Kendrick
@Blacula.4 ай бұрын
On my first listen, every time the 2 line refrain would come in between each verse, my immediate thought was always "oh god, what's next"😂😂
@FortunateKidd4 ай бұрын
@@Blacula.man yes. Like dang who’s next? Whats he gonna say? I was scared man
@michael1984274 ай бұрын
A full horror movie m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/in61n32lmraohtU
@bluc60494 ай бұрын
It's a horror movie 😂
@hiitsmorgan54314 ай бұрын
Meet the grahams is a “you just had to be there” type of song. Euphoria and Not Like Us will be Kendrick’s 2 songs that’ll be the most famous, but meet the grahams is the most crucial song in this rap beef.
@daymare04 ай бұрын
hard agree
@619Gotenks4 ай бұрын
Makes me sad no one thinks of 616 In LA
@hvllxwmakesnoises3 ай бұрын
@@619Gotenks sucks cause it's still a well crafted track, it just feels like more of a warning instead of a full-on diss. unfortunately (or fortunately depending on who u ask), drake didn't heed this warning, and now we have not like us and meet the grahams. i feel like it's still an important setup in this beef, but it's not as big a hitter as the other tracks.
@bunga43543 ай бұрын
@@hvllxwmakesnoises i think it has the best rapping in the first vverse. like best of 2024 too
@CASSOBLVCK3 ай бұрын
The reactions to that song are gonna be legendary 5 years from now
@Issh__hf4 ай бұрын
“This a long life battle with yourself”
@agollumcalledgandalf4 ай бұрын
Kendrick is not a storyteller, he's a worldbuilder
@khanyisaking48904 ай бұрын
Exactly!! This is what makes Andre 3000 great as well
@BacchusAurelius-yj4mb4 ай бұрын
Justin Hunte made a great point about the same thing. He posits that it doesn't matter if Kendrick is telling the truth or not, he effectively builds up the character of Drake as an untrustworthy and manipulative person with Euphoria and 6.16, so once we reached Meet The Grahams, it's almost like the climax of a movie where the "truth" about the character finally comes out.
@vezofficial4 ай бұрын
Shoutout to minecraft 😂
@correctivelensemultimedia68224 ай бұрын
Underrated comment right here. LARGE print facts.
@tocide4 ай бұрын
always have been apparent since good kid maad city, i didn't like that she kind of discredits the other albums being linear by saing Mr Morale only has that aspect. All of his album has such great written substance that isn't just linear, DAMN for example, was definitely linear but had made in mind to be able to be listened backwards and makes sense out of it. i mean about GKMC and TPAB, there's no explaining those masterpiece when it comes to the sequencing of the worldbuilding and that goes for Mr. Morale as well. Each of his album have the negativity and positivity always, conflict is a part of what makes the world interesting. Tbh this really is all expected by Kendrick, he is an artist and an anthropologist, how could he not know.
@ebnest1234 ай бұрын
Drake should not have mentioned Kendrick's Fiancé on Push Ups. Kendrick proceeded to destroy him.
@sirlink96114 ай бұрын
It's funny because you think he learned his lesson from his beef with Pusha T. He name dropped Push's fiance on "Duppy Freestyle" which pissed Push off enough to drop "Story of Adidon".
@NeisanMo.4 ай бұрын
I feel like it's become (or always has been) an unspoken rule within Rap Beef. If you decide to refer to another rapper's family relatives in a negative/disrespectful manner within a Diss Track, it's declaration that you've opened the hell gates and you must expect in return....the unrelenting wrath & destruction of response from your Rap Beef Opponent. The gloves are off.
@sentientcardboarddumpster79004 ай бұрын
@@NeisanMo. My new grind core band is named Rap Beef Opponent
@CircumstancesNeverMatter4 ай бұрын
He loves talking about other people’s girlfriends, wives, and sleeping with somebody’s partner he deserved everything he got! 😂
@smokescreenFromThe6ix4 ай бұрын
@@sirlink9611I think Pusha would have still dropped his diss if he didn't mention his wife, he probably would have taken out the 40 line.
@kasanova7494 ай бұрын
Why do people ignore the fact that DRAKE was the one that overstepped the boundaries first?
@gerardjames41104 ай бұрын
After Idiot told him he knew he was going to do it and warned him not to.To win the war you must know your enemy. It was over before it started.
@couldntthinkofacoolname96084 ай бұрын
Literally. Kendrick warned him multiple times, even said on Euphoria after Drake had already stepped over boundaries twice, saying "If you take it there, I'm taking it further, and that's something you don't wanna do." It's honestly one of the most brutal parts of the beef, Kendrick was kind to him and gave him multiple chances to back up.
@yeetrepublic91424 ай бұрын
Drake fans look for things that aren't there in his lyrics while ignoring the things that are there
@ceeitrus4 ай бұрын
the fact kendrick even gave him grace AFTER pushups came out and then drake proceeded to STILL overstep boundaries, he just set himself up for failure 😭
@IsThatWriteOrNot4 ай бұрын
The Ego is A Hell of A Drug, especially For Those that Continue to Choose Wrong While Pretending they’re Right
@TheLongestTake4 ай бұрын
Meet the Grahams was such a methodical assassination, further enhanced by the fact that it dropped soon after Drake's supposed "red button" response.
@paultapping95104 ай бұрын
it certainly makes you wonder if the red button Drakes daddy allegedly stopped him releasing against pusha, was a) real at all and b) would have been a killshot. I doubt either to be the case after all this. It was a face saving thing imo.
@geovanniemiles71784 ай бұрын
Drake fans would beg a differ 😂😂😂
@paultapping95104 ай бұрын
@@geovanniemiles7178 De Nile is not just a river in Egypt!
@parkermudsen10634 ай бұрын
@@paultapping9510I believe was to save face. Similar to how on The Heart 6 he took some shots at Kendrick before waving the white flag.
@giosbizarreart90484 ай бұрын
@paultapping9510 i always thought the "red button" drake supposedly had on pusha was a bluff and now this kendrick beef solidified it. Drake just knew he ain't have shit on pusha and lied that he could've gone further
@anthonyestrada11134 ай бұрын
Even if the daughter stuff turns out to be not real, the rest of the song is such a read on Drake's character, using his own raps and Instagram posts of his own behavior against him, that I can honestly see Drake not being so terminally online anymore. Kendrick didn't have to dig for no information, Drake's weird behavior has been public for years.
@fangal123 ай бұрын
I'm still not convinced it's fake. Drake didn't publicly acknowledge Adonis until a year after Story of Adidon
@nikolett62233 ай бұрын
i feel like even if it isn't true or doesn't get proven (because the family might not want to out this little girl), the point stands - Drake according to Kendrick is irresponsible, gets around a lot and spends a lot of his time drugged out around escorts, who's to say he doesn't have more children that he's ignoring? even if we don't know for sure, the idea is there - he's a deadbeat that treats women like trash
@WPFLAWLESSАй бұрын
@fangal12 I forgot which in which of the 8000 essays on this beef I saw it in, but some fans found several pictures from years ago of Drake with a little girl that looks A LOT like him , the 0osing suggested that they were related in some way . The more recent pic she was wearing Drake merc. There's also a court case that I found from 9 years ago where a woman was saying Drake was the father of her then 2yo daughter. Idk how the DNA t3st turned out butthe article said he agreed to pay child support.
@ericgarcia40494 ай бұрын
Haunting is the perfect word to describe MTG. Euphoria was imo the best, most layered diss ever, Not Like Us was the celebration song after the battle, but MTG was like ripping Drake’s heart out and handing it to him in a doggy bag. Drake aimed at Kendrick’s pride but Kendrick aimed for Drake’s literal soul, they weren’t even playing the same game. Absolutely masterful.
@Prindlco4 ай бұрын
Well said
@angelinaoliver55874 ай бұрын
Well said👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾💯💯💯
@evangedeon21944 ай бұрын
Killua Lamar
@BacchusAurelius-yj4mb4 ай бұрын
Don't forget 6:16 in LA, the calm before the storm. Lowkey my favorite from the beef.
@marrissiajones52344 ай бұрын
Well said!
@megyskermike4 ай бұрын
Cant believe theres still people out there denying the impact of meet the grahams
@checksoverstripes24984 ай бұрын
False allegations about a daughter?
@owenleal4 ай бұрын
@@checksoverstripes2498 A methodical stripping down of Drake as a human being.
@redhunnid51424 ай бұрын
@@checksoverstripes2498Every single allegation by Drake was proven false already majority of Kendrick’s disses on his diss tracks are completely true it’s even stuff out there on a daughter and another son that looks exactly like him he supposedly had a daughter but the woman disappeared off the internet they literally announced it back in like 2015 I believe she was a Haitian woman that worked in a nightclub in Miami liv club to be specific I forgot the woman name but I remember the announcement on the radio if you want to do research you can but like I said the woman is nowhere to be found I wouldn’t be surprised Drake has her put up from civilization and paid off to be silent the other girl I use to follow on IG I think her name was Shedrica I’m not sure this was years ago she posted that little boy everyday and then she complete disappeared off the internet I remember speaking to her on IG very friendly woman she was a African American woman but the boy looked exactly like Drake the boy would be walking and talking now where ever he is Drake probably has her put away too paid off
@Kevy8084 ай бұрын
@@checksoverstripes2498 but it didn't overshadow the other darker portions of the record somehow.
@jaimegarcia63014 ай бұрын
Bro drake got every cell of him dismantled
@ZaKKsQuaTcH14 ай бұрын
People keep referring to Family Matters as a nuclear diss track, but Drake really just outed himself for not understanding his opponent and the info he had access to. Drake clearly didn't listen to Mr. Morale or even read the lyrics. Nothing Drake had to say was new. Kendrick even recreated an argument he likely had with Whitney for MMATBS (We Cry Together) and all but admitted that they were temporarily separated as far back as 2022.
@Nani18044 ай бұрын
I feel like “we cry together” might not autobiographic, it’s such an over the top fight, like it’s supposed to pick a little bit of every issue an average couple might have, and of course the voice over of Whitney saying “this is what the world sounds like”.
@marche8004 ай бұрын
On top of that apparently the idea that Whitney and Kendrick aren't together currently was false information fed to him by a source who was just trying to take his money.
@ZaKKsQuaTcH14 ай бұрын
@@marche800 Kendrick told the whole world that he screwed up and treated Whitney wrong, but he made it a priority to become a better man and they became a stronger family because of it. Drake just heard a beat he couldn't twerk to.
@arkeshn7294 ай бұрын
@@ZaKKsQuaTcH1couldn't twerk to 😂😂
@arkeshn7294 ай бұрын
We Cry Together is hands down one of the most thought provoking tracks ever made.
@parkermudsen10634 ай бұрын
I imagine Drake only heard that song once but that Alchemist piano plays over and over in his head. 😟
@Dooky-mv1by4 ай бұрын
He definitely hears the "You lied" line in his head when he's alone
@channelneo75194 ай бұрын
Whenever he sees or hears a piano, he feels chills.
@Fieldperson4 ай бұрын
@@channelneo7519 and then he plays a minor chord on the piano
@michael1984274 ай бұрын
Yes m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/in61n32lmraohtU
@yuhhbaby31794 ай бұрын
Was playin minors before this song anyways 💀
@LyricalFauxpas4 ай бұрын
Weeks later and I still think about that "YOU LIED !" part with the background echo lmao
@luiza.limaneves3 ай бұрын
And when he talks about drake's children it even sounds like his voice is breaking - from anger? Sadness at them being mistreated? The continuation of the cycle??😊
@Bungusmingus3 ай бұрын
@@luiza.limaneves The way Kendrick’s voice cracks when he starts speaking to Aubrey directly is haunting. That is the crack of a man who is angered, disappointed, and hurt. That is the voice of a man who wants so badly to dig his claws into a bastard’s throat, but doesn’t in the hope that he will change. Change for his mother, his father, his kid(s) and for himself.
@johnnychase26294 ай бұрын
He wasn’t talking to Drake in that last verse. He’s was speaking to Aubrey and that’s a huge difference. Loved the video. Very well done imo.
@Temptized2 ай бұрын
That’s one of the reasons why I love MTG, Kendrick Lamar has and had the soul to try to forgive and have pity on Aubrey, not his rap persona Drake. Just Aubrey Drake Graham, though I do admit I don’t think Kendrick doesn’t have a hating bone.
@johnnychase26292 ай бұрын
@@Temptized well said
@conradlorgar5508Ай бұрын
@@Temptizedhe doesnt have a hating bone in his body, he removed it to beat the diddy out drake
@rulev35044 ай бұрын
The Alchemist and DJ Mustard must not be forgotten..in a world of new Producers and Engineers the Vets still showed they can deliver
@LilyTahiti8884 ай бұрын
K Dot is a scholar in the Art Of War. Psychological warfare is his expertise, a class of his own.
@davidorellana62784 ай бұрын
Drake was a student in the art of war , he just just the kid in the wheelchair in the back while Kendrick was the top student
@Blu.Byrdii3 ай бұрын
What makes this comment even better is that Kenny ACTUALLY has classes done on him, unlike drake
@rayneozier4 ай бұрын
Euphoria, Meet the Grahams, and Not Like Us. Kendrick made three of the greatest diss records ever, targeted at one guy💀
@libantube-on8kw3 ай бұрын
What about 6 :16
@rayneozier3 ай бұрын
@@libantube-on8kw that’s a great record too. But I don’t necessarily consider it to be “one of the greatest diss records ever”, like I do for the other three.
@libantube-on8kw3 ай бұрын
@@rayneozier fair enough
@Matt-yj1lz4 ай бұрын
Meet the grahams was definitely my favorite of the beef. It was the killshot. Not like us was more like the victory celebration song.
@redhunnid51424 ай бұрын
You described both songs perfectly “Not like us” is definitely dancing on Drake’s grave
@AverageJoeMama3 ай бұрын
Heh. “Killshot.”
@kuldoxy5637Ай бұрын
Word!🙌🏿
@otterdonnelly99594 ай бұрын
I told everyone when Euphoria dropped that this beef will be promo for Mr. morale to get revisited by the masses and Drake fans. Yall gonna see a lot more people coming around on it this year.
@ChipOsorio4 ай бұрын
Yup - folks who claimed Mr. Morale was trash when it dropped have now been rethinking their original assessments.
@xbebe4 ай бұрын
Really good album, I wanna say it’s up there with good kid mad city
@thacrypt2234 ай бұрын
@@ChipOsorio I've loved it from the start. It is a really good album. You can tell it is a piece of art.
@hyde18934 ай бұрын
it didn't get the mainstream applause it deserved that's fs
@otterdonnelly99594 ай бұрын
@@hyde1893 it’s just clear even his own fans don’t really listen to him. Kendrick is always very straight forward and easy to understand unlike people make him out to be.
@elmanicero63574 ай бұрын
A egotistical celebrity like drake would never drop something like a mr morale because of insecurities, leaving space for kendrick to poke holes in his character and show how lame he actually carries himself in the public eye.
@reign15764 ай бұрын
Drake thought he can do what Push did to him, but he forgot that he is not fighting someone like him
@apathybronson3 ай бұрын
I mean. Drake can't really get someone with the skeletons in their closet when he needs a whole other mansion for his skeleton closet
@hanatamago38133 ай бұрын
Real, perhaps his biggest mistake was assuming Kendrick and himself were on the same level
@leovang3425Ай бұрын
@@apathybronson And also when his opponent's skeletons were already buried long ago.
@NeptunesTunes4 ай бұрын
Meet the grahams followed up by not like us is like when madara dropped a planet type thing on the shinobi nation then followed it up with another one when they barely survived
@sivembontsi43844 ай бұрын
Factual...
@kungfukenny15404 ай бұрын
💯
@chaniqua15904 ай бұрын
That’s the one!
@xXwarpedpichardiXx4 ай бұрын
Somebody made an edit of this exact thing, it's a good vid
@Jehayland4 ай бұрын
That moment in Naruto ALWAYS makes me bust out laughing (but like in a good way). It’s just so cold blooded and so simple, yet so shocking, overwhelming, and effective at the same time 😂
@MasterIceyy4 ай бұрын
I think the instrumental also goes a long way with meet the grahams, not only the atmosphere it produces, but it's so subtle, that it directs the listeners focus towards the lyrics and catching everything Kendrick is saying. I found that Drakes instrumentals were heavily crowded, and Kendrick constantly telling him to have 3 switches, makes it even worse as more beats are added, to accompany more flows, which just ends up breaking the cohesiveness of the song. Meet The Grahams, seems to have been written as if it was a spoken poem, or a real life letter being written to someone, so it doesn't really need an over the top beat to go with it, Kendrick probably could have released just the vocals and it still would have served it's purpose in the beef. The instrumental though provides such a good atmosphere, intent, and ambiance that only enhances Kendrick's lyrics.
@rattttooooo3 ай бұрын
I find that's the case with pretty much anything kendrick releases. Part of why I am so enamoured with his music, and artistry, is the clear direction he has in mind for every release. I mean, GKMC plays like a movie, if a movie could even convey the atmosphere and internal conflicts as clearly as GKMC does. I close my eyes when I listen to his albums, and for that moment, I'm not just observing the protagonist, I *am* the protagonist. Kendrick is a fucking master of his craft.
@darthsenpai4 ай бұрын
“Not replayable” idk I’ve replayed meet the grahams more than any other diss song that’s come out from this beef lol. I love it even more and more after each listen. Also great analysis!
@xXwarpedpichardiXx4 ай бұрын
The ppl that say it has no replay value don't want to listen to the lyrics again and again. They want a beat with the same flow over it every time. The surface level drizzy fans that want him around just want one thing. Microwaved music.
@darthsenpai4 ай бұрын
@@xXwarpedpichardiXx facts. I’m tired of the “if I can’t bop to it, it’s not good” mentality. MTG’s is so twisted and poignant 🔥
@xXwarpedpichardiXx4 ай бұрын
@@darthsenpai I think it's bc they share the same emotional maturity of their cult leader, truly. For drake his music is about pushing the "I make money, I fuck baddies, I steal other people's girls". There's not substance, it's gloating. Ppl want to feel on top of things and they think drake is living that life up at the top. Sure, he might do all those things. But what about all of it is exactly fulfilling? Surface level lyrics from a surface level man with a bunch of surface level fans. They can stay up there all they want, depth is where real growth can happen.
@BacchusAurelius-yj4mb4 ай бұрын
Nah I'm sorry this song is "not replayable" in the same way Kim by Eminem or Dance With The Devil by Immortal Technique are "not replayable". It's a masterclass in horrorcore in my opinion. I don't play it often because the vibes are just so incredibly negative, not because I don't get the bars or lyricism.
@Ashgrey04 ай бұрын
Ye but she was spot on when she said you can't stop the song midway once you've started playing it😂. That's how good the narrative was stitched together
@alexroselle3 ай бұрын
I’m not a piano player but I read somewhere that not only is “Meet the Grahams” in the key of A Minor, but only the white keys are played in the song. If true, that is a level of petty I can hardly even dream of. Really appreciated your video and analysis! I’m gonna need to revisit Eckhart Tolle now that you mentioned him
@baronvonbeandipАй бұрын
If you are playing in A Minor, you are playing white keys. There's no 'but' about it.
@baronvonbeandipАй бұрын
and yes, it is in A Minor with A4 at 450Hz
@alexroselleАй бұрын
@@baronvonbeandip thanks for confirming this. Also, since posting my earlier comment I learned that the piano sample is from Laura Palmer’s Theme from the soundtrack to “Twin Peaks”, I’m sure ppl can read some interesting ideas into that.
@leovang3425Ай бұрын
@@baronvonbeandip Not true at all, you can take chords from other scales like from secondary dominants and crap
@PivotStryker4 ай бұрын
Listening to you breaking down the themes of Morale actually made me tear up, I knew most of those things but hearing them packaged in such a way really opened my eyes to how vulnerable Kendrick was and how much he hoped to reach us and help us change for the better. I'm looking forward to your next videos
@lualhatilualhati4 ай бұрын
the writing on this video is brilliant 🤍
@kitaredd97204 ай бұрын
That “count me out” video is so deep, that in and of itself still 2 years later has me peeling back and discovering new layers! Kendrick is a freaking GENIUS! I’m so glad people who never heard it before are now listening to “Mr. Morale”. I remember what it did for me when it first came out.
@makingmediamatter4 ай бұрын
I feel the same way, Morale floored me when I first heard it, had me in tears and every listen back through since has felt just as powerful, truly a once in a lifetime album and definitely my personal favorite from Kendrick.
@kitaredd97204 ай бұрын
@@makingmediamatter each listen brings something new ro discover. It’s music is so multifaceted like that though, that he doesn’t NEES to put out new music all the time. It’s like he gives us enough good nutritious “food” to sustain us until the next time. I can still listen to any of albums and get “full”!
@Joker.9.9.94 ай бұрын
Mr morals isn't for everybody to listen to only for those willing to heal...Count me out had me in tears 🙏
@kitaredd97204 ай бұрын
@@Joker.9.9.9 you are so right!!! And I do think it finds you when it needs to as well!
@jay2thaudy4 ай бұрын
You can have both shocking reveals and hard hitting bars....and kendrick did that.
@checksoverstripes24984 ай бұрын
The daughter claim is an allegation proven to be false though, so how is that a reveal?
@jay2thaudy4 ай бұрын
@@checksoverstripes2498 Nothing has been proven false and I see you magically forgot about the obvious grooming behavior.
@carlodaboiii64854 ай бұрын
@@checksoverstripes2498 nothing was proven to be false lol ur just making thigns up
@AgentHeroic4 ай бұрын
Drake: You've got small feet, you're short, and your wife doesn't leave likes on your Instagram, zing Kendrick: I, a Pulitzer Prize Winner, am about to take this lyrical sledgehammer to your face and the house of cards you've built this career on Drake: Yeah, well, uhhhh, I wanted you to think that you've won so this diss is over
@trueluscao3 ай бұрын
i just imagines drake saying that final line with the Heart Part 6 beat
@clementnkabinde223323 күн бұрын
😅
@k1llsk4 ай бұрын
Ppl forget how impactful Euphoria was, it subtly hinted at various things, such as Drake's sexual assault cases that got settled outside of court, the fact that his always been play acting as a "black american artist", very subtle hints towards his grooming of young girls (there r surprisingly a lot more cases than u actually think), n that being the track where u completely showed when it comes to the pen he is better than Drake, better as a artist n a poet, making it clear why he has a pulitzer. It setup all of Kendricks other disses so perfectly, although being one of the lighter disses from Kendrick in the beef, it was meant to be a warning that this could get serious real quick
@hoomakoa4 ай бұрын
Just as an artist, Drake never stood a chance. No one else was on his disses to carry his flow 😂
@blackice87694 ай бұрын
Meet the grahams was more than just a diss track it was an intervention. He explains to the kids I know you were born into a messed up situation but there is still hope then explain to Drake's parents that they raise and f up person without being too disrespectful. I felt like I was looking at a show on the lifetime channel.
@pearse29444 ай бұрын
I’ve been saying intervention when talking to people about it aswell Kendrick really puts a focus on the impact his actions have on the people closest to him and overall paints such a pitiful picture of Drake that he appears sick, misguided and incomplete It’s insane to me how in such an insane and cut-throat track Kendrick still comes off as merciful
@blackice87694 ай бұрын
@@pearse2944 that's what make Kendrick so dangerous in the game of rap. He doesn't see things from the surface like a lot of other people he goes in depth like a psychiatrist are a philosopher oh yeah and on top of that he can rap any style slow fast All the above.
@meechbrown55574 ай бұрын
This is a great breakdown of ART vs cheap mass produced imitation. Great dialogue
@SmokinAcesProd4 ай бұрын
It’s very reductive to just write Story Of Adidon as a “gossip diss”. The child line was only a small part of the track and there was SO MUCH more covered. And Pusha rapped wonderfully.
@noahdelafuente4 ай бұрын
Underwhelming description but my friend simply described it as “haunting” and it really does have that horror movie feel
@Jordy_Joestar-ub1qw4 ай бұрын
I think what some people, especially Drake stans, aren't really pointing out is how this whole thing, at least for me is the most simplest literary themes of all time: Man Vs Machine but with a spin I guess. The rumors about Drake always cycle around the idea of him, basically being a product for a record label. Everything about him seems to be manufactured, even his rhymes aren't him which a lot of people in the past (old heads) have commented about. Drake makes good music but it isn't Drake; he's essentially stats, data and number. Drago from Rock IV. And that would make Kendrick, Rocky Balboa. He's a natural talented rapper who came from the backgrounds he raps about. He is, one can say, actually hip hop and what hip hop stood for. And for him to win the battle...? It's like something straight for the books. This whole diss battle is indeed "biblical"
@makingmediamatter4 ай бұрын
I love that Rocky comparison, you hit it right on the head
@Jordy_Joestar-ub1qw4 ай бұрын
@@makingmediamatter Thank you I was in a rush typing this and also Im just shit at typing so glad my point came across well lol.
@kr0nus4774 ай бұрын
Mr. Morale and the Big Steppers is one of my favorite rap albums. It has probably the only rap song I have ever cried while listening to. Mother I Sober. The fact that Drake chose to fundamentally misunderstand that song is really telling. He is emotionally immature and does not understand what Black Trauma even means. This is why his label as a Culture Vulture will stick for probably the rest of his life unless he makes some significant changes. Excellent commentary by the way.
@BRAZILIAN_MIKU4 ай бұрын
One thing i realized is that each verse on meet the grahams displays different feelings The first verse shows the shame other people feel about drake and how people (represented by Kendrick) don't want other people (Adonis) to become like him In the second verse, although he talks more softly with sandra, kendrick clearly expresses hate of drake's actions and fear of what he might do to other people close to him(though i believe kendrick when he says he doesn't have hate towards drake, in this verse he probably expresses a common possible feeling towards drake). Kendrick is the most agressive in this verse by far. In the third one, he expresses the feeling of lost potential that drake has and hopes that drake will change his mind because of his daughter The 4th one, in my opinion, expresses the feeling of being fed up with drake's action, the verse is structured in a way you can almost hear a more narcissistic version of drake at the start saying: "why? Why i deserve this song? Why are you doing this?" at the start. You can also imagine very clearly Kendrick leaving after saying the last line, like he doesn't care anymore.
@MasterIceyy4 ай бұрын
Kendrick doesn't "hate" Drake because that would go against his religious beliefs. The reason he worked with Kodak is because he thinks people can be rehabilitated and truly repent for their actions, however it seems like Kendrick is saying there is no possible way Drake could repent for the evils he's done
@tellmesomething24124 ай бұрын
@@MasterIceyyNo... K. Dot's saying that he may NEVER trust him, but Drake should do right by those that he cares for, and not be the type of a-hole he's describing. Saying Kendrick doesn't matter, the rap battle doesn't matter, but Drake's actions and war with himself does.
@DynastyLuminous464 ай бұрын
Drake is (was?) in a position of too much power to truly be able to repent, those walls need tearing down to throw Drake's ego down before Drake could even begin to think about bettering himself. No one else would've been able to put Drake in that position and time will tell if this beef has worked.
@pastense4 ай бұрын
Yeah, I think the most powerful thing Dot did was put himself completely out of the equation. This was beyond a diss. It was more of a psychiatric therapeutic session lol.
@yvettekeys92624 ай бұрын
You can hear drakes lied when kdot says too 😂😂😂
@paultapping95104 ай бұрын
really excellent dissection of both tracks. def. earned my sub! My only gripe is I do think you glossed over how impressive the release of meet the grahams was. Dropping when it did and being a better version of Family Matters, is basically Kendrick saying "see? I told you you were predictable" and being utterly validated in that. However, it is a form of magic trick he did. I don't think he literally predicted the angle Drake was going to go for, so much as he had so many response tracks prerecorded he could choose the most appropriate. Which he all but says at one point (how many do I really have in stock? 1, 2,3 ,4 ,5 plus 5).
@makingmediamatter4 ай бұрын
That’s a fair point, I do wish I would’ve found more space to discuss how impressive it was for Kendrick to drop “Grahams” right after “Family Matters”, I agree with all you said here and definitely think that was a contributing factor to how he kind of automatically won with Grahams. And thanks for the kind words and subscription, I definitely will be releasing more stuff like this soon!
@puffdoesstuff3214 ай бұрын
Re-edit and add it in the middle the people of the future will thank you
@mrcandy19384 ай бұрын
Not only that, Kendrick choose horrorcore type song as a response was to me a chef kiss. Completely killed the vibe what family matter brings to the table. people were dancing and laughing then all of a sudden went dark and silent the minute MTG drop. there will never be a rap beef that can replicate this kind of aura
@nicklikethesoup4 ай бұрын
He didn’t predict much of anything because he knew it all. He had already heard it. That much is all but confirmed. Similar to the 5+5 meant he had at least 5 more tracks in line with escalating information. Seems like UMG pulled the plug on matters before #5 dropped. Just based on how things were posted online by those close to Kendrick.
@Luiz-w5s4 ай бұрын
@@mrcandy1938 It was a masterclass never seen before. Drake dropped his "bang" diss, Kendrick kills the vibe with MTG, making his fans hyped and Drake's fans depressed, and when his fans are hyped and Drake's down, he releases his "bang", Not Like Us, sealing the beef. It was a genius play. He has been prepared to face Drake since the beginning of their beef, years ago. That's why he was teasing him in many songs during the decade, almost baiting him to this battle. "Say his name and I promise you will see Candman", this line is in Element, from 2017.
@colummccurdy4 ай бұрын
That was a brilliant comparative analysis. You're really good at what you do. Keep it up.
@makingmediamatter4 ай бұрын
So kind of you to say! I definitely plan to do more stuff like this in the future
@dariansmith89794 ай бұрын
i was thinking the same very in depth
@MrXolaX4 ай бұрын
Ai
@dariansmith89794 ай бұрын
@@MrXolaX your moms Ai
@valeriyav21494 ай бұрын
Kendrick's storytelling, form, structure and just exploration of major themes behind his criticism of Drake started in Euphoria and continued through all the disses peaks in Meet the Grahams. And the way it all ties up to Mr. Morale with the psychological approach and character analysis is very well-thought-out and cohesive. I shouldn't be surprised because that's how he approaches every album, but the fact that he could use the same approach to a series of disses is just impressive. p.s. I really enjoy your video essays! I'm glad this beef helped me find you 🤗
@DuUbermensh4 ай бұрын
Meet the Grahams is the most heinous rap diss ever. It's so brutal, and so nasty that you almost feel like you need to take a shower after listening to it. Even as a longtime fan of his, MTG really made sure that I will never see Kendrick the same way again. That song is like being at an execution. Such a brilliant song, but if you don't cringe while listening to that song, you probably have some issues.
@nousername1913 ай бұрын
Yeah, I struggled to listen to Meet the Grahams the first time and I really feel you on seeing Kendrick differently. I'm not as big a fan (as in I don't follow his songs closely) but damn, I didn't know Kendrick had that in him.
@CynHicks4 ай бұрын
Meet The Grahams was my favorite. Even musically I immediately loved it. As a musician myself I picked up on the modality of the melody and the intentional droning, repetitiveness of the intervals used. It even offered the occasional relief by using an interval with less tension at the exact time that a listener will generally (that included me) become overly tense and therefore annoyed. It acted as a resolution, which is very necessary when dealing with those intervals.
@hlogilehlogonolo54384 ай бұрын
What I like about MMATBS is that it’s realistic, no one with deep rooted Trauma stemming from past generations will ever sit down with a therapist or anyone close to them and immediately reveal everything that makes them feel broken inside, Rather they’ll be skeptical to tell them anything at first then after the skeptics fade away they’ll much rather beat around the bush or in the album’s case “Tap dancing around the conversation” to even just feeding their ego in hopes the individual forgets the pain he/she is experiencing but we all know that won’t happen. It’s so real to an actual Therapy session and that’s why it actually works
@InchonDM2 ай бұрын
If I'm being honest, the most devastating accusation on "Meet the Grahams" was one that I don't think anyone paid attention to at the time -- the one right at the end. At the end of the song, Kendrick asserts that Drake _LIES._ Constantly, compulsively, about himself and about others. He gives this more attention than any other element of Drake's character in the song -- something like sixteen or twenty-four bars is spent just on that at the end. It's also the only place where he brings in any other kind of audio work instead of the rest of the song's grinding, constant pace. The increasingly loud audio doubling on "LIED" makes it sound like Kendrick _is_ the Boogeyman, a collection of angry ghosts accusing Drake akin to Macbeth or A Christmas Carol. This isn't a trick he uses on any of the other verses or on what should be considered far more serious allegations -- the _child activity,_ the addictions, the abandonment and abuse cycle stuff (though he does notably cut the beat hard at the end of Verse 3 to call Drake a deadbeat, which has a devastating arresting effect, and of course "Not Like Us" spends far more time and some of its most powerful lines driving home the _child activity_ parts). This point isn't the first or last time he brings this up -- "Euphoria" calls Drake a "habitual liar" explicitly in its opening slow part, and more subtly calls out certain lies by showing a more familiar relationship to Top Dawg among others -- but it's by far the most pointed and dramatic. And it's _really_ important, because by pinning Drake as a liar, Kendrick undercuts _everything else he says._ Every one of his other disses, all the serious accusations in "Family Matters," any defenses he might make against Kendrick's own accusations -- they all come into question. Attacking his credibility strikes at the absolute foundation of the beef. It's not a panacea move, though -- it works here because that pump has been primed in both directions. Drake has shown all kinds of snake-ass behavior in the past and has recently in particular been doing a lot of what would be classically called "fronting", pretending he's way harder and has a more street past than everyone knows he has. On the flip side, Kendrick is far from perfect but the publication of Mr. Morale and the Big Steppers showed a willingness to be honest and open about himself in ways that are very, very rare in hip-hop. So we're already primed to think of Kendrick as both credible and driven by morality, and Drake as the opposite. That makes us more willing to consider that Kendrick is telling the truth about Drake lying, and from there it all falls apart. Again, I really wish this had gotten more attention at the time. I understand why it didn't -- "Meet the Grahams" has WAY more explosive allegations in it and is just a horrific piece of music to listen to -- but from the first time I heard it, I consider it the most important thing it did. When you're in a he-said-she-said fight, the worst thing that can possibly happen to you is to be hit accurately with a statement like "Why believe you? You never gave us NOTHING to believe in!"
@AMAZIAH4 ай бұрын
Do one for 6:16 that song is beautiful. It's crazy how the beginning of that song is him pleading with GOD that this is something he has to do. And then he asks souls of all the people that died while he was chasing his career to be with him. And references all his previous albums. This culminates into a transformation that seems to be the butterfly from TPAB. That's my take anyways.
@liamcallaghan98354 ай бұрын
This is the kind of dissection a lot of other reaction videos have missed. There’s always something more with Kendrick and I think you perfectly surmised what was going on with this track. It’s almost violent reduction and assessment of his character as an individual. I really appreciate the ties to the morale album as well. Super enlightening! Awesome video
@aintreal3014 ай бұрын
Kendrick literally warned drake 3 TIMES to not attack his personal life, even predicted he will do it anyway and fabricate stories, "don't tell no lie about me, and won't tell truth about you"
@enigma40193 ай бұрын
what got me on meet the grahams he never yelled (besides the end around "that ain't how mama raised us") he simply talked to them. he didn't act as of he's some higher guy no high horse, he got down to eye level with drake and his family and talked to them. genuinely talked to them as if he just wrote a letter to them and sent it to them
@ciandaly95753 ай бұрын
one thing that sticks out to me is that apparently all of kendricks disses were recorded at the same time. tbat means that he made euphoria, 6:16 in la, meet the grahams AND not like us in one session (theres also allegedly a 5th song) and listening to them together with that in mind tells a bit of a personal story for kendrick. how he goes from "this is a warning shot, oooh i hate you and im hoping you act up" to literally dismantling the man to finally having fun with it because he knows drakes fucked if he drops. the line in "not like us" about family matters tells us that kendrick knew everything drake was doing before he did it and he came in prepared
@via20142 ай бұрын
The full circle conclusion from “time to prove he’s a problem” in Like That to “the family matters and the the truth of the matter it was Gods plan to show yall the liar” in Not Like Us is amazing. He gave a full rundown to literally prove that Drake (and the character he plays in life) is indeed a problem (besides the call out to “prove” he’s a problem as a rapper which he failed). It’s so satisfying to musically describe everything that ppl who have stepped away from Drake as fans or who never were fans have been saying for years.
@naohaotingala64334 ай бұрын
If kendrick was sparring with J Coke, I think it wouldve been a more lyrical based spat, since Kenrfick has stated he wanted this to remain "an exhibition within the game"
@tesselate8nowait2624 ай бұрын
I’ve heard a lot of people say that Kendrick really changed the tone of the beef with MTG, but I would argue that 6:16 began that tone shift. It was on 6:16 that Kendrick declared that he was taking this battle unbelievably serious…as if ordained by God to smite this faithless man. He then proceeded to burrow into Drake’s thought process by implanting the idea that everyone around him was suspect. Very insidious. The cover art being Drake’s misplaced glove, which only Drake realized at that time, gave weight to that claim. It’s no coincidence that the cover art for MTG was the same shot zoomed out to show an array of Drake’s personal items, which seemed like an invasion of privacy…and the song itself really was like an invasion of Drake’s privacy and inner thoughts.
@dimensionaluniverse52154 ай бұрын
Kendrick is L from Death Note, Meet The Grahams was truly a classic horror story, that’s going to live hip hop history forever💯
@shanabala44564 ай бұрын
Great essay. I honestly struggled to understand why Kendrick would take on a hateful persona seemingly out of nowhere after releasing such a personal album that preaches healing and growth, but your explanation of his diss tracks to be examples of his "regression/ imperfection" makes so much sense. It seems like that idea flew by many people though, as these tracks are being interpreted as reasons to be more hateful rather than flaws we should work through (which is the idea that mr. morale encourages.) It's why I think these diss tracks contradict his previous message in Mr. Morale to the wider audience, who really are attracted to the buzz of drama and callouts (no problem with that, the bars were fire).
@ZEHAHAHA96974 ай бұрын
That was very intellectual and well worded break down of MTG, loved every moment. You're ability to break down lyrics and create a narrative of what is was like to Dissect Kendrick dissecting Drake, has earned you a new subscriber.
@cinco.17534 ай бұрын
Great analysis I loved the video. For me listening to Meet the Grahams for the first time as an adult was a lot like listening to Dance With the Devil by immortal technique for the first time as a kid. There was just such an eerie feeling and you couldn’t tell what was real or not.
@ibi79284 ай бұрын
Quickly becoming one of my favorite music dissection spots man. Excited to see what you put out next and dive into your non-music related catalog :)
@makingmediamatter4 ай бұрын
These the type of comments I love most of all, really appreciate your kind words and hope you enjoy some of my other work!
@knowledge-pablomlotshwa66614 ай бұрын
“Stop playing with me for i turn you to a song” he wasnt lying🙁
@Steepledgravy94 ай бұрын
Great video! I've always been a Kendrick fan since section 80. Seeing him grow, and I'm glad this beef is shaping the future of hip hop and rap. It's definitely what the culture needed.
@1984Bergeron4 ай бұрын
This video is necessary viewing for understanding the depth of what Kendrick did.
@AdeleKakwandi3 ай бұрын
You went off on this one. And you articulated just how I felt when this song came out how it made story of Adidon look surface level.
@yvngseph4 ай бұрын
drake cannot keep his mouth shut when it comes to other people’s fiancées.
@circle111114 ай бұрын
How does this channel not have a million subs? The quality is 10/10
@makingmediamatter4 ай бұрын
Im sayinnnn, but thank you actually!
@RoterBaron934 ай бұрын
because it is only AI content, and summarized by chat gpt and said out loud by some AI voice, this is not really something what we should thrive for bro this is downranking but whatever
@circle111114 ай бұрын
@@RoterBaron93 there’s literally personal vlogs on her channel. She’s not a bot, just good at narrating.
@princerak88814 ай бұрын
She sound like one she sound extremely fake@@circle11111
@darcyrowley17364 ай бұрын
@@RoterBaron93definitely not ai. She’s on screen at the end of all her videos. Smart woman, great research, fantastic writing, and good narration. She is the ideal content creator for subjects like this
@TealeafRogers4 ай бұрын
This was a banging breakdown and analysis, you gave me a lot to think about. Glad you explored Mr Morale too
@shalop56144 ай бұрын
You did such a good job putting into words how this song connects so well to the thoughts and themes of Mr Morale. Its something I've been feeling but always stumbling over myself trying to explain to people
@kaws12054 ай бұрын
Great work! I’m happy you made the connection with Mr. Morale as his third verse made the mention. Thank you for the work 🙏🏽✨
@Docmatema4 ай бұрын
Thoroughly enjoyed this. Please continue breaking down Kendrick's discography. Ive been on a KDot binge and i love your style. New subbie😊
@actuallydarmusic4 ай бұрын
Such an AMAZING video! Very well written/spoken to the T! Amazing work on tying together “Meet The Grahams” & “Mr Morale & The Big Steppers” to explain an overarching message in this ALL!
@Lorendrawn3 ай бұрын
I listen to Meet the Grahams when working out abs. 6 and a half minutes of pain while Kendrick terrifies you into staying disciplined
@isodoped72274 ай бұрын
It's a great video, and you really should be proud it felt like a documentary. I was expecting the credits to roll up on the end right there lmao. Like the feeling of watching a good movie and leaves you stunned when the credits roll in
@okuhle17114 ай бұрын
This channel deserves to hit 100k subscribers, and I think it will in time. I can tell you really listen music and understand it
@juanjo85934 ай бұрын
By far the best analysis of the beef ive watched!!
@Jett-n-gin3 ай бұрын
I am SO glad you didn't "leave it there" at the 10 minute mark. Mad props to that, shows your love for the art over everything
@nonamemcgee12954 ай бұрын
Not like us and euphoria are famous not because they are better but because meet the grahams feels so sinister and personal to listen to that it feels like reading an anonymous letter that was wrongly delivered to your mail box.
@xyoungwx4 ай бұрын
Meet the Grahams is the scariest thing I’ve heard 2024 so far, a scene of Kdot standing next to Drake talking to him while brutally cutting drake open in a dark room came up to my mind when i was listening to the track 😢
@GDaddyQueso4 ай бұрын
EXCELLENT WORK, this video essay articulated a lot of the thoughts I had about Meet the Grahams that I couldn’t quite express to people.
@XragebootsX3 ай бұрын
I think the craziest thing about this beef is that it transcended just the Rap community. It seemed to have just about everyone gripped as it was happening
@agirl8243 ай бұрын
Pusha T did investigative journalism for a rap battle. GOAT behaviour
@lucafrix66Ай бұрын
This whole beef is a showcase of the incredible talent and craftsmanship of Kendrick. All of his diss tracks show such great story telling, musical expertise and the bars are fantastic. I still have all of them in rotation just due to those factors. Meet the Grahms might not get bumped everywhere like Not like us, but that doesn't diminish how haunting and powerful that track is.
@Tarnished8004 ай бұрын
THIS WAS INCREBILE you got yourself a new sub
@AdrienneWSU26 күн бұрын
This song is underrated because it’s not a club song or comedy song like “Euphoria.” But this is historically the most effective and creative diss track ever made!
@thechief56274 ай бұрын
Dope essay…. One of the best I’ve seen on this conflict… you’ve earned a new subscriber… and hopefully a million more
@thekingofafrica67203 ай бұрын
Excellent narrated and great arguments made... I believe many people miss out on Kendrick's messages when they first hear songs and often Come back years or months later to understand him. I saw the same when Mr.Morale dropped many critics had placed him in a category of pop music and forgot his true ability has been narratives and storytelling of his self.
@raytylerofficial4 ай бұрын
Solid video. Obviously a lot of thought and introspection here. 👍👍
@KZ831224 ай бұрын
This is such a great video!! The way you researched, analyzed, and broke down the whole history between the two and the concepts of Mr. Morale in a way that I haven’t seen anyone do yet. I loved this video and was engaged the whole time especially bc I’m a big Kendrick fan. But you should keep going and never stop making these types of videos. We can tell you put a lot of work into this bc the quality of the video/content is 10/10
@afro_souledits23824 ай бұрын
Good breakdown of how integrity and humblenes destroys self absorbed egotistical weaknesses
@blaineholt15893 ай бұрын
When you broke down the summary of kendrick’s spiritual philosophy I actually started to cry. Because it was exactly what drew me into his music upon only recently getting into him. I haven’t really listened to much not out of avoidance rap just isn’t my go to. But this feud brought him to my notice and I instantly fell in love with his lyrics. The disses and mr morale are like some of the most down to earth, open to growth, and funny rap lyrics I’ve ever heard
@MsYooToob2 ай бұрын
“The world’s meanest therapist” was funny as hell lol
@GASP_HQ3 ай бұрын
This is my favorite break down / analysis of the situation. I know you said you'll be talking about other things now, but if you analyze things like this all the time, I'm in.
@PoetryAndTofu4 ай бұрын
On the topic of structure, fantastic job with the structure of the vid itself. Obviously starting with Adidon, then Family Matters is a natural way to setup Grahams. But as a fellow Kendrick fan who's followed his career thusfar, i deeply appreciate you comparing Mr Morale's intention and themes to this track and how it furthers the story just like Euphoria and the rest. Plus how it elaborates what Morale maybe couldn't.
@uncledut4 ай бұрын
You should be proud of this video. You’ve done a wonderful job with your analysis. You definitely earned yourself a subscriber.
@lottery.064 ай бұрын
I normally don't comment. Nor do I think I have anything noval or insightful to say, but damn. This is a great video. Great vidoe and editing quality, exceptional analysis and script with a few new takes tha I haven't heard discussed by most people on the internet throughout this whole beef. Keep up the great work.
@daidreemer4 ай бұрын
Love this vid. Sometimes I dont listen to meet the grahams bc its so dark and deliberate in its attack but its so well crafted. Shows kendrick is really a master at what he does.
@l3lueSerendipity4 ай бұрын
Beautifully and masterfully presented. Love your in-depth breakdown. Thank you!
@RayberthFear4 ай бұрын
this video was amazing to watch, the amount of info and things that are found from the disses and how kendrick calculated this all is just amazing.
@Tom-do4vz4 ай бұрын
Phenomenal video, amazing quality!
@ecgoudeau3 ай бұрын
Bravo 🙌🏽 very well done, thoughtful critique 💖
@Mpunch074 ай бұрын
You’re really good at what you do. Looking forward to hear your take on future topics, rap beef or not.
@babba6323 ай бұрын
Wow this was very well put together, please keep putting out quality like this!