Kendrick's Too Smart For His Own Good | The Joe Budden Podcast

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[@Alchemy77]

Kills me when listeners say kendrick is preachy when he’s literally just speaking on his own experiences. he’s never telling the listeners what they need to do.

[@mikeb20111]

Man’s literally telling everyone “I am not your saviour”

[@littlemissgolden1896]

"Preachy"??? People can be a bit annoying.

[@kingklassic3522]

Exactly how tf is he peachy

[@colb7798]

My exact thoughts, though I recognise people who draw ignorant conclusions listen from a limited perspective. You can share a message but you can’t force somebody to hear it if they aren’t tuned in.

[@Artislife1992]

💯💯💯

[@SouthsideJOjo]

Mother I sober had me in tears man. This album is an emotional trip. It’s not for quick consumption. It’s not a playlist. It’s really art. Some people are soooo numb to experience/feel music these days.

[@Azcardcollect]

Yooo, I cried on that track too man…..it was a roller coaster track.

[@darryltobiko4576]

Guys just wanna bop and keep it moving unfortunately

[@asiaunikash3804]

🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻

[@blckconsciouscorner3687]

It's the nature of a true artist

[@k.d.4229]

I cry everything when I hear it. Played the album for my father and he balled when “Mother I sober” played. I was like ok it’s not just me!😭

[@Kickinthescience]

No Kendrick album sounds the same. I can appreciate that

[@vibe4b]

never know what you getting good or bad 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@deshundillard1337]

nobody can say that!! no rapper

[@deshundillard1337]

@@vibe4b U know what u getting with a rapper like Drake 🤣🤣 same ole shit tho

[@deshundillard1337]

@@vibe4b i hear ppl say they kdot fans but calling this album trash🤣😂🤦🏾‍♂️

[@vibe4b]

@@deshundillard1337 its not trash its just different & ppl want what they want from kendrick but he chose to make the music HE wants to hear/release

[@BossManFrost]

Mature , well rounded , content heavy , story telling , this album was needed for the culture ..Classic in my opinion

[@calebwillillhight]

Thank you.

[@Itiswhatitisitiswhatitiswhatit]

People keep talking about replayability and how the album isn't really something to bump all the time and I'm confused. I've listened to this shit probably 50 times over since release, and he's got some real bangers on this album despite what all the novices and haters say. Absolute classic, magnum opus, this man deserves an actual crown at this point! 👑

[@mannygill9181]

Nick the moron says it has replay ability so it must be true. Most people aren’t not running this shit back. Maybe a track or two.

[@mannygill9181]

“Absolute classic” 🤣 Kendrick could’ve farted on the album and you would’ve been fan boying.

[@o.w.140]

@@mannygill9181 but he didn’t fart so what’s your point?

[@Itiswhatitisitiswhatitiswhatit]

@@mannygill9181 I mean, I'm not a fan of section 80, Butterfly is not my favorite either, so I wouldn't say I'm fanboying over everything he does. I will say I struggle with mental health issues, Father Time is 100% my experience with my dad who left my family for another family, and I have a lot of trauma from shit that rings true on this album. It's a brilliant piece of art. Maybe not the best hip hop album for some, but a great example of why he has a Pulitzer and rappers like J Cole don't. Also, secret track 19 on the album is called Fart and is just him farting for 5 minutes and that shit is still better than anything White Drake (Harlow) has put out in his entire career. 💯

[@chubbychuckle]

@@mannygill9181 Where is the evidence to back this up? The overwhelming majority of hip hop fans recognize that he's great at what he does even if they don't like all of his work.

[@Hugo-tf6no]

This album is going to be crucial for the culture to grow and improve, instead of being stagnant with death and pharmaceuticals

[@ohwordb2627]

One can only hope

[@darkskinwhite]

a state of the culture (no pun) true, is it gonna do anything to/for it? in that sense idk. that'd be cool, I hope so, but idk.

[@BossManFrost]

Yes I think artist will take their music & craft serious & this is a therapeutic album , hopefully this will take a turn for artist to make better content

[@3minati]

Even if it’s not all of us, it will grab some of us,. Jay said, “it’s crazy how one verse could fuck up the game”……so the odds in my optimistic opinion, is……it’s gonna change shit. Maybe not now, but it will. Jus waiting on time, I think this nudges us silently to better times.

[@blyndfold4336]

@Certified Big Dog just like you apparently

[@pseudo_ra]

Drake: you can digest his albums with one listen and it loses value over time. Kendrick: you have to listen two or three times and it gains value over time. Entertainment vs Artistry-that simple.

[@JesusChristSaves.]

A difference between accomplishments and astonishments

[@cleohoward1397]

1000%%!!!

[@dakotawells-senvisky5929]

You got this the other way around

[@MrHsharris]

💯💯💯💯

[@katlegomasoeu7993]

Factz...

[@mrhdwhite]

I see the criticism of this album and I am reminded of Jay-Z “dumb down for my audience”. Thinking is not in vogue these days. This is an incredible work of art. And like any good piece of art, you can derive new ingredients and messages every time you consume it. Ordered the double LP vinyl version today, first time that I have purchased hip-hop on wax since the 90’s.

[@MFBOOM100]

So whats your actual opinion on the album like the content in it

[@ManessahIsrael]

@@MFBOOM100 alot of the people who like this new album are LGBT that's why they love this album so much because it's pushing LGBT propaganda.

[@kismechedwick7829]

Sounds like you’re saying Kendrick is only for “smart” people… 🥴 That seems like a reach, tbh. (Btw, apologies if I’m misunderstanding you.) Not to sound like a jerk, but I got Kant, Sartre, Durkheim, Nietzsche, and a bunch of others on my bookshelf. 🤷🏾‍♂️ I don’t think it’s a question of people being scared to think deeply or being shallow, imo. Music is largely based on feeling, no?

[@Kickinthescience]

@@ManessahIsrael No LGBT don’t like that he uses the f word multiple times

[@ManessahIsrael]

@@Kickinthescience Here's what the LGBT is really saying:Kendrick Lamar's 'Auntie Diaries' Is a Powerful Trans Support Song - Variety May 13, 2022 - Kendrick Lamar's new album “Mr. Morale & the Big Steppers” includes the song “Auntie Diaries,” which addresses trans acceptance

[@jcoop552000]

I remember listening to To Pimp a Butterfly and didn't like it on the first listen. My boy told me to give it a fair listen. After listening to it again while doing some computer work, I called my boy and apologized. I told him this was the greatest hiphop album in my life.

[@mannygill9181]

🤣 🤣 🤣 “I called my boy and apologized and told him it’s the greatest hip hop album in my life” Lmao 🤣 do you corny mofos even read the shit you type???? You people are nuts.

[@Largentina.]

People that didn't like Wesley's Theory on first listen gross me out. If you don't like funk, stay the hell away from me.

[@RedCloudGawdian]

I'm with you on that 100!

[@jcoop552000]

@@Largentina. Sometimes a 2nd listen is needed.

[@ManessahIsrael]

@@Largentina. Exactly!Most of these people couldn't relate to "EVERY NIGGA IS A STAR" because they were white people who didn't understand FUNK!

[@richiethecreator9704]

This album reminds me of a younger Jay-Z’s 4:44 but from a black man in his 30’s. This was not for entertainment, it’s for nourishment. All truths, real deep. Nothing was surface level. It’s a sit to yourself and open your mind.

[@iamjoehill]

I said the same thing.

[@DarrellRJr]

Exactly my thoughts

[@dragonsofeden]

Nah, 4:44 doesn't compare to what KDOT is doing on this album. 4:44 was an benign attempt of a popular rapper trying to capitalize on the conscious rap culture. KDOT is giving you a Masterclass on black culture.

[@blkrr1349]

@@dragonsofeden I don’t think venting in your music and giving game on the world and how to succeed counts as trying to capitalize off of something

[@safeman1x]

@@blkrr1349 especially since it took him five years.

[@bradleydaniels3864]

I just listened to it, i was too fearful of listening it, sat on it since drop. I listened with headphones, my eyes closed and laid back. Im commenting this because i don't know this feeling im feeling, im uneasy, the word to describe my experience doesn't come to mind. Im left speechless. Kendrick is a 1 out of 7 billion artist. What we're witnessing right now is a blessing, his poems and artistry will get taught in schools to the next generations. Thank you Kendrick Lamar.

[@c.m.walker6063]

I completely understand this comment/feeling.

[@khalilcolbert2322]

I too was fearful...you hit it right on the head ;articulated this well. Now im just worried for his safety 🥴as all of ours

[@daedae3934]

I still haven't listened

[@elliotyoung2962]

His music is being taught in schools now

[@DJTeddyJetts]

I agree.

[@funkyfreshkid08]

"No replay value" N95 Worldwide Steppers* Die Hard Rich Spirit Fathertime Purple Hearts Count Me Out Silent Hill Savior Mr Morale* Mirror If you can't find replay value those records im sorry for you.

[@bunobeatz5737]

My favorite song on that shit is worldwide steppers that shit is crazy

[@josmith8233]

This album has a ton of replay value. It's amazing with four songs dominating top ten already. Purple hearts, Rich Spirit, Father Time sitting ready to take over radio as well. Masterpiece.

[@32812489]

That Father Time talked to my soul I never thought I might have needed to talk to someone until I listened to that song for like a hour straight🤣🤣🤣

[@Therealjtyler]

I cant wait to listen on a one sitting. My fav album by him was tpab, so i hope its similar like they said

[@tony4534]

Wouldn’t say dominating, next week he’ll have one to0 10 song at most

[@TaTa-rq6dl]

@@tony4534 his whole album on charts so no

[@crucifixionman444]

Thats ittttttt!!!!

[@CharlieKaine]

JaRule got no business being mentioned in this conversation 🤦🏾‍♂️🤣

[@morgan21dm]

Y'all disrespecting pimp a butterfly too much😂😂

[@Daijaray]

Right!

[@WilliamDailyReacts]

its the greatest hiphop album of all time.

[@morgan21dm]

@@WilliamDailyReacts nah, it's on of, then you gotta think about, watch the throne, college drop out, 444, Tupac makaveli

[@lamariusmicou5127]

The greatest hip hop album ever since me against the world!

[@vietnamesericefarmer2602]

I think Joe in particular is too intimidated by it because he realises there is no way in hell he could ever back in his rapping days have made something that profound. Stick to Pump it Up lmao

[@njaj4602]

This album was about the music , the art and the message and on that point this album was insane

[@curtiscj3087]

Lol yea it’s definitely not insane

[@jfraz1992]

@@curtiscj3087 exactly they’re overhyping this album

[@will6724]

It wasn’t tho

[@blyndfold4336]

@@curtiscj3087 graduate from high school first kid, and we’ll talk

[@curtiscj3087]

@@blyndfold4336 lol

[@yungsammysosa6201]

Father Time made me shed a tear Rich spirit is dope af Count me out stays on repeat at the gym..(especially the first verse) All and all the whole album is good 👍🏾

[@Teffy2105]

Count me out is a masterpiece it’s a very very special message in that song!

[@tellmesomething2412]

Mr. Morale = All that he wishes to be (Morale/Conscience) Big Steppers = Why he wasn't, and doing what it takes to be who you want to become (Steps)

[@StephenThePisces]

This album is to mature. You really have to listen to it and have went through a lot of shiz that he went through or experienced through others. I love TPAB so this album I said it sounds like all his albums combined. This album is therapeutic especially with black ppl dealing with family issues and not expressing enough.

[@BILLIARDman2000]

Yo I noticed that as well, the type of projects that grow on you overtime.

[@dangelorichardson7836]

Exactly

[@MichiganHendough]

I understand everything in this album and hated his delivery of his message but I understand it I went threw alot of shit he talked about we cry together, auntie diaries purple hearts etc

[@ruffcity20]

facts

[@brittanywoodard306]

The Album is really for those who are mature enough to listen. We have been so into what sells now that when someone provides something worth substance we tend to push it away. I enjoyed the album. I enjoyed how he choose to tell his stories and bring us into his emotions and thought process. I felt the culture needed this album. He has some bops on the album but what we need is some truths and he gave it all he had. Respect the project for what it is! Job well done! I rather he release content that is of substance and his character than half the crap they pushing out these days.

[@POETADENNIS]

True..guys nowadays want to act like they live their lives in clubs Monday to Sunday-bumping to bangers.Bangers come and go and they forget your ass.Kendeick produces records that when he disappears for 5 years,his return makes our dopamine rise like it's on steroids.Thats why he is relevant for years.

[@dem0neyes]

"The Album is really for those who are mature enough to listen" is probably the best sentence i've heard to describe this album.

[@BuckMarley]

Real talk

[@marsmasterpiece1691]

Facts well said

[@samueljackson347]

You’ve got bars. I agree. Well said & have a lovely day

[@artaigar.n.p3520]

This album had everything….very conscious and can still hold a vibe

[@Charles-sq9zv]

This one of the most meaningful albums to the “real” culture since the Public Enemy era. I think this is going to age as a masterpiece and will hopefully cause rap content to pivot from this follow the leader, celebrate toxicity movement, a bit.

[@Charles-sq9zv]

Not knocking your take and ironically I just posted on my Instagram-story that Common is Kendrick’s precursor (Happy 17th to Be). Common is one of my top 10 favorite MCs ever. We gotta let it age, but for me this album attacks so much, head on, consistently through the entire album. You see the build up of the affects, to acknowledging, to addressing trauma and damage. I don’t know that any albums have detailed those stages to this extent and to this degree of relevance to issues “we” don’t address and attack as a community. ✊🏾✌🏾

[@Charles-sq9zv]

I don’t disagree. He seems to have evolved more to poetic verbiage than using entendres, punchlines,etc. Personally, Damn was the album that sort of disappointed me because I wanted lyrical Section 80 KDot and that project seemed to reach for slaps and hits. As far as the mindset, it seems like he is unpacking damage and trauma that hasn’t been addressed for years like many of us have let events from as far back as childhood dictate our adult lives. Earlier in his discography he pushed toward forward movement for “the people” in the struggle from an outward and onward progression. But can we really move forward without addressing the inner trauma, programmed propaganda, and damage that has us stuck in this rut of popular behavior, cliches, and mindsets that keep crippling us? This almost seems like a hold up wait a minute moment, where he is dealing with this stuff before he can move forward with tackling anything else. I just appreciate a heavy hitter tackling these topics on a big stage, in the prime of his career. At this point, with a discography of this caliber, you may not get exactly what you want every time out, but as long as there is substance and it adds value, I am good with it.

[@MrASAPAB]

Maybe if you’ve only heard like ten albums since public enemy.

[@kingklassic3522]

Lets hope so. Hearing quotes like "Kendrick is preachy" or is "too healthy" makes me think that we may have not moved the needle much though.

[@Charles-sq9zv]

@@MrASAPAB Major albums made from 90-2015ish have had to play the label games and place mainstream filler on them to appeal to the masses. Every cut on this album directly addresses an issue that black males have had to deal with in this era, no popular filler here. My catalog of hip hop is very extensive, but if you can list 20 albums since the PE era that touch issues this direct, without filler (reaches for singles) I’d love to debate.

[@beep5665]

Kodak went craazy on that album, that was a collab we ain't know we needed. Baby keem too. All the features were A1. But that's expected from a Kendrick album.

[@tonybologna9071]

Kodak killed Kendrick in his own album

[@jefcergos]

@@tonybologna9071 Stop being ignorant. Even Kodak himself wouldn't say that lol

[@tonybologna9071]

@@jefcergos Kendrick would… that’s why he needed him on the album

[@jefcergos]

@@tonybologna9071 Yeah, for an interlude and a song feature, didn't realize that's the whole album lol

[@cperkins5050]

LMAOOOO

[@laminacumberlander9101]

You have to have a certain level of intellect to appreciate Kendrick Lamar! This album was 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@1mochadelightable]

This whole project is something to be digested, regurgitated, and consumed again. Then wash, rinse & repeat. Its so much to unpack on this masterpiece & Im here for it until eternity. This project is timeless…

[@ManessahIsrael]

Alot of you LGBT people like it because he pushed LGBT propaganda on this album.

[@sycofya1677]

@@ManessahIsrael facts

[@SouthJerzVillains]

@@ManessahIsrael he made 1 song lmao

[@ManessahIsrael]

@@SouthJerzVillains That's all it takes is ONE SONG to push LGBT propaganda and agenda.

[@kshowngordonable]

@@ManessahIsrael We love Kendrick cuz he’s real and speaks from life experience, but then wen he does just that. He’s pushing propaganda.

[@theD0PEST]

TPAB is amazing. Joe and Ice are buggin’

[@babyboybuu7827]

I was expecting Joe to break the album down and go through each song and have a deep analysis… the conversation was dry with a really powerful of piece of material to expound on

[@Largentina.]

This was recorded like a day or two after the album came out. If you expected someone to give this album a deep analysis that quickly, you are one weird individual.

[@WoahhTeamJacob]

Probably needs to sit on it some more. It’s pretty deep album

[@babyboybuu7827]

@@Largentina. I’m weird for wanting these Niggas to have concise opinions? They couldn’t even keep the conversation flowing

[@crowing3886]

Joe literally says he has to listen to it multiple times an sit with it.

[@daBlondieboi]

Agreed, y’all say that but how’s broken down albums in the past just after real ease. I didn’t want to hear Ice’s take whatsoever, had to go hear Rory and mals take lol

[@Rock.lee7736]

Kdot : I’m not your savior . People : oh my God he want to preach us

[@ZarbonSpitwell]

This album is an absolute master piece… Father Time Purple Hearts Savior Auntie diaries Mother I Sober Are all instant classics that cause self reflection on a level I’ve never experienced with music… like when people say music can change the world this is the kind of music they are talking about 💯

[@mannygill9181]

“My auntie is a man now” WOW SO EARTH SHATTERING AND CLASSIC. 😂😂😂

[@ZarbonSpitwell]

@@mannygill9181 if you look up real quick you might see the actual message of the song flying by, you probably gonna miss it tho 😂

[@NightmareUnleashed93]

@@mannygill9181 bruh your hate is disgusting 🤣

[@cjsantacruz-gv1cq]

Idgaf what ppl think about the album, it got alot bad reviews, to later (after marinating for a few years) ppl changed their opinions. From a personal experience that album hit me hard. I was going thru some personal issues that on first listen i broke down in tears. I felt the tracks deep and emotionally. To me, that was a more mature Kendrick, same way i took in Eminem's revival, i saw growth.

[@Divineeauraa]

Personally, i think Kendrick has a bigger responsibility ( spirituality) than most artists w his music. Yes, catchy music will get them to listen, which he incorporates. However, his purpose is to deliver us a message.. that man is a prophet. We all are, he just has a bigger responsibility.

[@mookth3mystro535]

United in Grief, Savior, mirror, rich spirit, world wide steppers, n95, crown, we cry together, the heart and mother I be sober...... basically the whole album with these specifically on repeat!!!!

[@itskevinzerbe]

Sometimes art isn't meant to be liked or enjoyed. An artist's intent is to solicit contemplation and reactions, not all of them happy.

[@twon1582]

Album was what I expected. Masterful

[@justcraig2712]

I personally love the album. First listen i was like ehh idk Kendrick. 2nd listen i was like hmm, this is different. 3rd listen i done invited this man into my top 5.

[@mrworkowt5419]

It took me 4 listens!!!!

[@ManessahIsrael]

@@mrworkowt5419 that's how BAD his album is,yall have to listen to it over and over again to program yourself into liking this album.That is not good ESPECIALLY FOR A KENDRICK LAMAR ALBUM.

[@ManessahIsrael]

that's how BAD his album is,yall have to listen to it over and over again to program yourself into liking this album.That is not good ESPECIALLY FOR A KENDRICK LAMAR ALBUM

[@justinbond1983]

I'm on the 5th listen, and this album is legendary status!

[@justinbond1983]

@@ManessahIsrael The best music gets better with age, not the opposite.

[@moshkay5069]

My first listen blew my mind... I didn't read lyrics. I plugged my pods and closed my eyes. Damn I couldn't believe my ears. Its like I was there when it was recorded and effects, panning of every instrument/vocals was perfect. On my 2nd listen, I shed a tear.

[@92bricks]

That was my EXACT experience

[@tellmesomething2412]

We Cry Together...!! That was that for me.

[@moshkay5069]

@@92bricks this album is powerful

[@moshkay5069]

@@tellmesomething2412 now I had to repeat that like 3 times on my first listen

[@moshkay5069]

@@VikktorVampiir When I heard mother I Sober. It brought some old memories that I wasnt aware were there

[@etherionoon]

I used to think “DAMN” was his best album but MR morale is a combination of all his best albums

[@polaroidandroidjeff6383]

You thought Damn was his best album?? 😲😲😲😲😲

[@bradleydaniels3864]

@@polaroidandroidjeff6383 for a man that doesn't put out bad albums, i can understand if someone would choose DAMN

[@pablomogosi8712]

Its like i used to like kendrick but now its all love. This is what i wanted from 3 stacks

[@thomasanderson468]

His best projects is Good Kid, Maad City, Section 80. & TPAB

[@pun7659]

@@thomasanderson468 nah nigga this new album Is fuckin better u just on the bandwagon afraid to have ya own opinion gtfo with that shit nigga

[@MrNathi]

@11:40 I Definitely Agree With You.. I Feel Like Disc 1 Is The Big Steppers And Disc 2 Is Mr. Morale... Right Now My Top 3 Favorite From Each Disc Are (Rich Spirit, Father Time, Die Hard) & (Count Me Out, Savior, Mirror)

[@christophermiller7243]

To pimp a butterfly is one of the greatest albums of all time

[@WilliamDailyReacts]

*the

[@christophermiller7243]

@@WilliamDailyReacts listening to it right now and this shit is like an outer body experience

[@saucedupagain2u]

This album is a full body of work not just singles thrown together like every artist now puts out. It all comes together like a puzzle if you must. Incredible word play.

[@Teffy2105]

Mother I sober makes you cry 😢

[@s4mnblack]

I love the album. I played it a lot and will always play it. Best album i heard in a long long time… and tbh Kendrick will do what Kendrick do regardless of what people say

[@papalane2729]

I always read the lyrics when I listen to new projects/albums! It gives you a clear perspective on where the artist is going!!

[@darkskinwhite]

the picture threw us off but the albums arent separate as morale and steppers, hes Mr.Morale & we are the big steppers steppin around the things hes talking about on the album. the first one is for mr.morale and the 2nd one is for the big steppers, its a mirror to show themselves to themselves

[@permazero]

Astute observation, if I do say so myself.

[@brucerawlinsjr.2678]

"Auntie Diaries is nuts". Buddy didn't even catch his own pun. 💀

[@Flash_1689]

ayooooooo 😭😭😭🤣🤣☠️☠️☠️☠️

[@permazero]

Dark and diabolical

[@austinhiphopawards4295]

This album was fn insane. It is art. Def one of the best albums ive ever heard period

[@mannygill9181]

😂😂😂😂😂😂 “insane” “it is art” “best album ever” Lmao 😂 you’re so edgy and cool.

[@austinhiphopawards4295]

@@mannygill9181 sure. What ever u say.

[@Largentina.]

@@mannygill9181 What part of any of what he said came off as someone trying to sound edgy? Do you know what words mean?

[@chadhall9756]

Did here damn? This shit is mid

[@cameroonbreezygoat903]

@@mannygill9181 😂😂😂 They’re probably young white hipsters lol Don’t even argue with them

[@hermayo8109]

Kendrick is a master of his craft. Facts on facts this project will definitely be inducted into Rap Hall of Fame. Believe me in the next decade. Lyrically, this is the most thought provoking album of the new decade 2020 plus.

[@shawndellkerbo7212]

This album was amazing for sure! I've listened to this album more than once. "We cry together " that song brought tears to my eyes .. literally a conversation between my ex and I, a phase of dv and verbal humiliation. Kendrick is a beast!

[@ayytee6052]

Thought it was trash first time I listened to it, now it's my favourite Kendrick album since GKMC

[@djlot5192]

This album is overwhelming... in a good way. Kendrick is a master of putting albums together. Period.

[@TreCosmos]

Never let Ish talk about music again

[@deroistewart1475]

Phenomenal album. Still digesting it but still must say To Pimp A Butterfly is his best album still. Replay value is debatable but it’s an incredible body of work

[@jfraz1992]

Same TPAB is his best work but the replay on MMATBS is very low imo

[@TheEnigma271]

Agree 100% tpab is still his magnum opus but this comes close

[@Dkirk215]

Kendrick album was about the meaning and the lyrical value not about hits or catchy records and I think Kendrick hit his mark with that from a creative standpoint I think he did it and I think that’s all Kendrick really values and definitely him as and artist the quality not the sales

[@Gcode609]

I agree with Parks take and I luv the album...🔥💯🔥

[@Looplabss]

“Hip hop froze “ best description of that moment

[@Needum]

Im still listening to this album everyday. Just went to the concert here in seattle it was amazing this album is fire.

[@ReedMySole]

To pimp a butterfly had alright and if these walls can talk. King kunta was a hit as well. Kendrick always had a few hits on each project.

[@yummdiddy]

"Alright" was the biggest song of that year, impact wise

[@sinsational8914]

ppl forget that

[@DreBagsGaming]

The point is none of the songs on this album are to the quality of those songs, yeah there are a couple "bangers" on this album but from a production wise and tye way he rides the beats on this album...they fall under what we know kendrick to be capable of, that is what people are saying, the heart pt5 is the kendrick we know, N95? It's a good song but it's eh overall when it comes to KENDRICK LAMAR

[@tony4534]

Depends what you mean by hit. Those songs were nowhere near the top of any charts.

[@highcry]

This album will eventually be looked at the same way as Marvin Gaye's "What's going on' and Lauryn Hill's "Miseducation of Lauryn Hill." Joe referenced "Mother I Sober" and that is one of the most telling songs and collaborations on the album. The title is interesting. It's gramatically in correct - it should be "Mother I'm Sober" so the "I" or the line / separation between both words is worth thinking about.

[@Kickinthescience]

This album definitely wasn’t made for the club

[@darrellglover493]

Or the ride. This is the type of album you play in the background while cleaning your house.

[@amg44444]

side 2 is absolutely flawless. and i’m sayin this as a die hard cole fan. the whole album goes. but side 2, wow.

[@Decision333]

Yeah, i knew my ears werent lying to me. That final disc really flowed better than the first, but since this whole thing is a therapy session then it makes sense that the "breakthrough" would flow better because of new found clarity.

[@topazdominique208]

I love the album! Its so good!! Kendrick Lamar is a blessing especially in this day and age. He is so uniquely himself. He is the definition of an artist.

[@MerovingianBlood]

12:50 glad Joe said this, i think Saviour might be the best song on the album, the production is godlike and the content match the quality too.

[@Mentagasm]

I keep Listening to this Double Album. Every time i listen i hear something different and more nuanced. But I am 50. I am from the era where you buy albums you play them end to end and then figure out your favorites and those go on a tape that you dub from those albums. But you can't do that anymore in this microwave society. Well I can because i still have CD player, record player and tape. So I am used to listening to something to get the whole vibe of someone's work. This album to me in my humble opinion was a front row seat into his therapy sessions this is HIS life and what HE went through, there is nothing on here that was preachy to me, if anything he held a mirror up to himself, society and the culture which could not have been easy. There is nothing to party and bullshit to in this world anymore. This is what killing your ego sounds like and stepping up and taking personal responsibility for your actions as it pertains to your career, your life, your wife, your children, your legacy as it pertains to one's mental health and while watching and maneuver through the world around you. I love this work, All of Kendrick Lamar's Projects are different and move me in different ways. I really dug it. Favorite tracks, from Side one is United in Grief (In Chicago, This shit hits different, sounds Very Chicago and If i know the cats in the city who bang these house parties, they are going to do a mix for it, i can feel it. LOL. ) We Cry Together because Toxic Relationships are king right now and that shit needs to be talked about right now more than ever. Purple Hearts, Ghostface showed out on that you can really feel the emotion. Summer Walker's vocals are beautiful and pack a punch. Side B stand outs are Crown, Auntee Diaries, Mother I Sober, (as a Portishead fan, shiiiiiittttttt! Big Surprise!) And Mirror. But I have not stopped listening to this double rekkid straight up and down since it came out. Remember Music is subjective. So everyone one is right weather you like the album or not. In my humble opinion, everyone is not ready to hear or deal with this music, its def going to age well.

[@Leonard_Washington76]

This album has aged very well. Listening to it two years later and it hits differently.

[@gillyisilly8185]

Parks was getting close referring to this album as therapy. I’m surprised Joe didn’t really dive in to that side more

[@mellothaman5113]

To Pimp A Butterfly was crazy ! But it came after GkMC , which is honestly one of the best hip hop albums of the last decade . It’s honestly up there with the likes of illmatic, reasonable doubt , ready to die . Its everything you would want from a freshman album . Then he switched the whole script with to Pimp a Butterfly

[@billytaylor1780]

I like 1-18 songs I really cared less for the Aunties Diaries song, other than that I've been letting the album play without skipping a song ever since it came out May 13, 2022. It's refreshing and soothing.

[@dominick366]

Thank you for speaking your truth ISH, speak for so many people

[@phakamisa_mandindi4232]

You don't browse through any of Kendricks music. You have to play it on the background and just do what you do and his stuff will catch you off guard. He does not produce music, he produces art. "Poetry is like truth, and most people hate poetry". Kendrick is having the uncomfortable conversions that most of us don't want to hear "tip toeing around the conversation".

[@djknight8667]

I cant even digest some of the album cuz it hurts and hits home so much.

[@johnbris85]

This is definitely his most transparent work to date

[@grizz1598]

We never got an Andre 3000 album but we got an Kendrick n Cole big stepping every time they drop

[@arequ22]

Sometimes these gentlemen have some of the most ice cold takes.

[@insideroutside]

Fr

[@arequ22]

@@tony4534 you just gave a ice cold take.

[@tony4534]

@@arequ22 Not ice cold just because you have a different opinion.

[@StatikFresh4]

This album is a Masterpiece & an instant Classic !

[@mel-bp1kp]

instant Classic makes no sense

[@jfraz1992]

Album just came out how tf is it a classic

[@Imeanwellshit]

Jeezzzz STOP throwing that word out like that. Albums aren’t even referred to as instant classics while still being digested u almost always hear it as “it was instantly a classic” then they say talk about the reception nd how it was received nd so on nd so forth. Calling something Timeless why still fresh is dumb

[@tony4534]

@@Imeanwellshit People call albums instant classics all the time

[@Imeanwellshit]

@@tony4534 u missed the point. Term doesn’t even make sense.

[@justalffie]

One of the biggest problems with consumption of art - music and otherwise - today is that we mostly listen to review, rate and rank but rarely to just enjoy, get something out of it and vibe.

[@blackpartymusic]

Alot of this album is OVER some people's heads because it is, mature, highly cognitive, analytical, and insightful beyond the surface crap content we hear in today's rap music. Some people will come back to this album in a future phase of they're personal development and realize how great this album is.

[@alexdelossantos8684]

this happened to me as a teenager. I hated the majority of Nas' I am and nostradamus albums but when I heard them over 30, blew my mind... "ghetto prisoners", "some of us have angels" just to name a few songs - absolute masterpieces

[@Astrohead824]

Did i just hear ja rule and kendrick in the same sente.....?

[@Stacksonem]

Took me three full listens to digest the album. It’s great, if you like Kendrick, you’ll like it, if you don’t, you won’t.

[@TaydaMada510]

Album definitely getting better and better. Favorite songs: Auntie Diaries, Mother I Sober, Worldwide Steppers, Savior, Savior (interlude) & Count Me Out. Faves keep changing though

[@Savagehaven3]

I haven't looked to see if other streaming platforms do the same, but, Tidal publishes the lyrics with the songs on the drop. I appreciate that. Having the chance to read Kendrick's lyrics on the 2nd or 3rd listen is dope.

[@PandaDonG]

I know Apple does that to. Dunno about Spotify but I imagine they might.

[@NoiseOrdinance704]

I’m going to sit and really listen to It again but I was very underwhelmed first listen, I understand the comparison to artwork as what some see a beautiful painting while other see chaos

[@trevorgibbs9357]

Underwhelmed is dope word choice. It’s like you’ve been listening to other music and expected something different.

[@NoiseOrdinance704]

@@trevorgibbs9357 I believe i was hopin for Kendrick to be in attack mode, heavy, nigga “I am HIM” bars, and he took more of an artsy approach, I guess I was lookin for more of his “control verse” after 4 years.

[@DampPandaSauce]

After hearing this album review...Ice is the Skip God. I gave him the benefit of the doubt, but to have the immediate thought of skipping is wild. This dude keeps a finger on the ⏩ button lol

[@aaronbubby5]

We complain about random shootings, self hate, racism, and addiction then when a prophet rapper literally gives us a look at why that is in the the illest way possible we say its not “ a bop” so we write it off asap smh no hope for us at all

[@trevorgibbs9357]

💪🏼🤯 Word!

[@BluEx22329]

Kendrick got folks reading

[@corybitela4165]

HE MADE AN ALBUM FOR HIMSELF AND ANYBODY ELSE WHO FACED SIMILAR SITUATIONS IN LIFE.

[@shaspearman8647]

The best kind of art

[@morgan21dm]

I think Kendrick switch the bottom to the top because in Egyptian times, they read and write, they start from the bottom of the page

[@therealwan]

I’ve been waiting almost two weeks for this

[@AustinNovel]

YES THE DISCS ARE SWITCHED AROUND as seen in the picture of him holding THE BIG STEPPERS in front of MR MORAL 🤔🧐

[@meeksjjm]

Some men don’t like to take accountability for their actions. Which is why it’s getting such a stale review. I bet if he was bashing/blaming women and disregarding his contributions to the toxicity they would LOVE the album. Kendrick is unintentionally exposing people imo. We never hear a RAP album with men taking accountability. I want this to be a Lemonade type movie so bad.

[@ManessahIsrael]

Boy you damn LGBT people love this album because it's pushing the LGBT agenda and feminist garbage,what's funny is he called you fake feminist OUT on this album however but...you didn't hear that now did you lol 😂

[@ManessahIsrael]

When will you women take accountability?Aren't you women talking about how you can have all the sex in the world and you should be allowed to kill babies?Is that taking accountability?

[@Willb3_Rodrigo]

If thats what its doing, i doubt its unintentional with kendrick.

[@WilliamDailyReacts]

@@Willb3_Rodrigo its intentional

[@Decision333]

Everyone gettin exposed

[@inflewence]

Mother I Sober 🔥

[@m_js5709]

The album reminds me of a progressive metal album or like an old Opeth album. It's a album that isn't easy listening. It's more of like listening to a movie. It's almost concept album like. It's like those movies that you know are great but they aren't something you can throw on casually. You can't throw on Shawshank Redemption or Reqiuem for a Dream when just chillin. It's such a serious album, you can't view it like an album that you expect to just have bops you casually listen to.

[@Dizzinator2114]

I had the headphones(over ear) on when I began listening to this and it was like entering another world. I love the album, but to me the music hits different with my headphones vs a single airpod.

[@Ben09P]

I listen to disc two 1-9 first, then listen to disc one 1-9 second... and I understand the Mr. Morale & he Big Steppers album clearly. This album is the culmination of "Section.80, good kid, m.A.A.d city, To Pimp a Butterfly, & DAMN" all-in-one.

[@andrewndambuki2207]

No lie I hated on this album on the first listen. Then I gave it a second chance and I was replaying joints I skipped. Your mind gotta be open and sharp for this one.

[@toolivekhii5607]

Pause 😂 😂

[@BigTrisStreams]

Pause

[@kauswekazilimani3736]

Ayo... pause.

[@RAY_L.M]

Ayoooooooo

[@DaneTheArtist]

bro whaaaaat

[@jaybot1988]

A lot of people couldn’t digest “To pimp a butterfly” not surprised about some of the reviews I’ve heard.

[@thirdsbbq]

This was a great convo about MMATBS. Respectable opinions and perspectives all the way around.

[@Decision333]

MMBS

[@keithgreen8916]

Kendrick got me wanting to go to Ghana to learn how to pimp a butterfly

[@gfunkgfunk]

People can say what they want about sales. But this album has been critically acclaimed

[@ManessahIsrael]

The album was his LOWEST selling album so you are lying.

[@MadMaxTopShotta]

Critically acclaimed by who?lmaoo

[@jconny65]

@@ManessahIsrael lying about what? it's a critically acclaimed album. album sales doesn't equate to critical acclaim, and vice versa.

[@ManessahIsrael]

@@jconny65 OK then prove its critically acclaimed.

[@ManessahIsrael]

@@MadMaxTopShotta alot of these people who like this new album are full of sh1t

[@mikeysrightleg1880]

Count Me Out confirms Budden's statement about Kendrick leaving earth in the second disc hahahah

[@W2Tymes]

This album not for anyone still ducking trauma. I expected people to reject it as soon as I heard it because I know how black folks are.