Kenneth Madden | A Conversation About No-Thing And Boundless Freedom

I've enjoyed talking to some of the (not?) non-duality speakers over recent times, and I've found it intriguing how they point to the same thing but their communication is very different.
Kenneth Madden is quite a well known 'teacher' in this space. Having watched a couple of his videos prior to the conversation, I resonated with the (seeming) personality and I enjoyed speaking with him.
We spoke about:-
- 'Spiritual' seeking
- How psychology/philosophy are 'seen'
- Free will
- Meaning
- Mental Health
- Why this isn't 'nihilistic'
- Knowing
From Kenneth's Website
This communication is in it’s essence very simple and paradoxically is beyond understanding. It is the suggestion that what you have experienced as a separate ‘me’ is and always has been only an appearance. What is being suggested here is that there is in actuality no such thing as a separate individual, or anything at all that exists in and of itself. It is the really felt contracted sense of being separate to the world that gives rise to a yearning for wholeness. In other words what we are all searching for, in myriad different ways, is to not be a separate ‘me’ and be complete and whole. So whether I am trying to make a million euros or searching for spiritual enlightenment through becoming increasingly meditative and mindfully aware, what I am actually looking for is to not be a separate person, to be whole and complete. Another way of saying this is that I am in fact searching for my own absence (not my expression, not sure of the exact source to reference it.)
Here’s the thing though. You are nothing other than already whole and complete- so what you are seeking and yearning for is what already is. This, aliveness. That is the divine comedy, that what you are in fact looking for is nothing other than what is and always has been and you have ran around like a headless chicken thinking it was something else, around the next corner etc.
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[@bob-c702]

Excellent. Just letting Kenneth extrapolate on non-duality, and staying simply to that story. It doesn't have to be complicated. Thank you ❤️🙏

[@fibanacci8]

Exceptional..

[@jimrich4192]

IT'S a total MYSTERY...❤

[@KARIS1961]

Loved this interview ❤

[@bjames692]

They should do an atheism non duality debate I’d pay to watch that

[@kevinallen5246]

Thank you for this. It's amazing how real the person feels. Videos like this make it feel less real...which makes life more real, haha. A mystery indeed.

[@albundy9597]

I'm 75, retired and have lived in a Buddhist country for the last 20 years ( that sort of rubs off on one) This sounds somewhat like the Buddhist philosophy of 'no self'. Buddha however didn't deny that there wasn't a person standing before him but rather the 'no self' is derived from the fact that the person (or any thing) doesn't exist in and of itself, everything is interdependent, to exist you needed your parents, food and therefore the planet earth, sunlight, rain, exploding stars to form the elements of which you are made etc. Causal events beyond your control (country of birth, social status of parents, genetics, society, schooling etc) govern your reality and experience. You do not exist as an Independent entity, but you do exist as a life form and all sentient beings are formed the same way, nobody controls anything because all events are causal, even your existence. Non-dual speakers don't explain things very well, what is meant by there is no you? are they denying my physical being? Nothing is happening? Things do happen obviously but they and my reactions are beyond my control so I am only apparently the doer. It's just energy, it's just as it is, so would Ken just stand by and watch a child being beaten because that's just the way it is? No he would try and prevent it because it matters.

[@MagdiNonDuality]

What is yearned for is freedom from the sense of separation.

[@COFFEEWITHBUDDHA]

Who is doing the yearning?

[@MagdiNonDuality]

@@COFFEEWITHBUDDHA Who cares who is doing the yearning? If you are happy with the sense of separation, anger, jealousy, the sense of lack and unhappiness, be my guest. Having said that, there is no separate self and therefore the yearning is not real. Some folks are satisfied with the philosophical statement that 'there is no one who is doing the yearning' and they continue to live their unhappy life. Some others go beyond spiritual platitudes and continue to investigate and inquire. I have not met anyone who is not looking for happiness.

[@palflakk6842]

This interview is great! Thanks for doing it.

[@irislind5313]

❤

[@neal-stewart834]

Know, see, feel, taste, touch.

[@MagdiNonDuality]

One may start by pursuing happiness until we realize that happiness is a true nature. We should not diss the pursuit as it has its place and value. Once it exhausts itself, them and only then, it is revealed that the happiness we seek is the happiness we are. This teaching here is akin to a woman giving birth without carrying the fetus for 9 months.

[@bjames692]

This message sounds like people that don’t want to believe in any kind of higher being but afraid to admit it

[@bjames692]

Because if the only thing that is, Is whats happening why do we need you or anyone to say it

[@gregoryswanepoel6328]

Excellent...just the sound is a bit wonky

[@ccr7712]

👍

[@carlt570]

Very interesting experience. Thank you. There is something about these 'communications' (Parsons, Newman etc) that I find to be soulless, and I say that only in the context of how they resonate with me. I have had the experience of 'that which arrises', and there is something about being human that brings soul to 'that which arises'. We are that soul in 'that which arises', and as Alex intuited, getting down and grubbing about in the shit is part of bringing soul to 'that which arises', it's not something to escape to, it's something to embrace and embody fully as 'being human that arises' As C.G. Jung expressed in 1933- 'Modern Man in Search of a Soul'

[@alexhickman]

I understand your comment here Carl. I am not 'there' (if that's a thing) and I enjoy getting down and dirty in all the human 'shit'. Perhaps if I (you?) had the realisation that Jim/Kenneth/Tony talk about, it'd be blatantly clear? Until then...

[@jimrich4192]

❤😂

[@IAM-gj7jc]

🤯🤯🤯wow

[@tomsmith2361]

👍😊

[@stevetice9360]

So do you still earn an income, feel happy or sad,pay your bills in advance ?

[@leonardini9883]

Kenneth became Jack after the falling away...LOL. (Check out his name bottom left)

[@alexhickman]

ha! just noticed that

[@MagdiNonDuality]

Yes, one could say that there has never been anything that is missing and yet we’re pretty miserable. The misery continues. The sense of separation continues. The unhappiness continues. Such teaching is completely useless. Empty sound bites. Such a teaching does not liberate you from the sense of separation. It gives you sound bites but the misery is not relieved. You could call the misery a dream and not real but that would be just a lot of BS.

[@alexhickman]

I think he'd agree with you.

[@MagdiNonDuality]

Non duality a religion?? That’s stupid.

[@jackwilliamatkins5602]

Jesus Christ owns two beds in Nunawading.

[@anthonym3351]

Sounds like atheism

[@Sethan777]

Nope

[@bjames692]

It seems like that to me but there afraid to admit it