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@i_ampresent6 ай бұрын
Lessons to be learned here, four minutes of madness cost fourty three years. Great interview, thank you both. Keep up the good work Dodge💜🙏
@zuu60236 ай бұрын
@@i_ampresent It was definitely an eye-opener thats for sure
@i_ampresent6 ай бұрын
@@zuu6023 just a bit
@Theoriginalbigbrillo6 ай бұрын
You forgot to mention someone's life as well 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
@sillyssg6 ай бұрын
What a great listen. I had the pleasure of meeting John in the early nineties at HMP Wandsworth. A larger than life character who brought a bit of light in a dark place.
@kaneperry42306 ай бұрын
Dodge mate, unreal. The questions you ask, the people you get on, the way you get them to elaborate on their stories, bring out emotion. Class
@DodgeWoodall6 ай бұрын
Much appreciated Kane and glad you’re enjoying the podcast 👍🏼👍🏼
@stirlin146 ай бұрын
Locked in for the whole interview dodge! Keep up the brilliant podcasts 👍🏻
@katiecostello51766 ай бұрын
A fantastic episode Dodge!! I love the way you present questions to your guests then let them fully unload!
@DodgeWoodall6 ай бұрын
Much appreciated Katie ⭐️
@Virtzy_6 ай бұрын
Looks like a fantastic interview, will listen at work tomorrow
@DodgeWoodall6 ай бұрын
It’s an eye opener for sure 😳
@richard70336 ай бұрын
Yeah Listening to podcasts at work rocks 👍
@danielbrown23106 ай бұрын
Really enjoyed this one, Keep up the Good work Dodge. Stories we'd never hear in our world.
@DodgeWoodall6 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it Dan ⭐️
@zialone6 ай бұрын
This is the first real interview I’ve seen of a real villain’s life story and a pleasure to watch ….well done Dodge .
@treds756 ай бұрын
Another quality podcast Dodge. John, that was a great listen, I’m off to buy your book now.
@kencook75806 ай бұрын
I had the pleasure and privilege to spend a few hours talking to this man about fourteen years ago. He will not remember me, but I will always remember him. He told me a story about when he was on the run and went to buy a newspaper. I was in stitches when he told me and I still remember it now. I found this geezer to be funny, humorous, and intelligent. I always wondered where he was and how things panned out for him. Fourty three years. Disgraceful. I wish him all the best for the time he has left, God bless him.
@careemshah6822 ай бұрын
I spent 2 weeks banged up with him in HMP FORD in 2010. Must have been around the time you met him? How did you meet him though? As we was all in jail and he certainly was 14yrs ago or so as I was with him. Really good guy. Stood on principles
@mattwells50226 ай бұрын
Fantastic interview Dodge and thank you John for telling your story.
@SiGriff5 ай бұрын
Loved this one Dodge, you’re the best around at doing these👍
@DodgeWoodall5 ай бұрын
Thanks Si ⭐️
@branroper6 ай бұрын
Another great episode Dodge!
@SYFGTrading6 ай бұрын
Another great interview Dodge I hope all involved find peace
@TheSparkysdog6 ай бұрын
Another great interview, thank you both 👍👍
@jt67816 ай бұрын
John was the best badminton players I’ve ever seen in the system, all the best for the further John
@johno71726 ай бұрын
He kicked my arse a couple of times 😂😂
@andrewmegginson55535 ай бұрын
Listened to John’s story on my walk to cricket at Old Trafford today. What an eventful life and you wouldn’t have thought from listening to him he was so violent. An interesting listen Dodge, enjoyed it. Another good episode.
@LloydChristmas-tx5sq6 ай бұрын
These old school men are way more interesting to listen to, Dodge, I hate to make a request but if it’s possible you must get John Hilton on if possible. He’s only done one pod (SA) he’s about 94 now and knew every face imaginable and served 2 life sentences (separately) hard to believe he still exists really. Thanks, lee in Vietnam..
@whattheshrek90466 ай бұрын
Great listen . Could listen to John talk all day with dodge 👍🏻 best podcaster about best guests
@theColonel016 ай бұрын
good interview dodge, i could listen to mr matey all day long
@lynnejones72066 ай бұрын
Another great podcast guys .. really interesting .. ❤
@terrymaxwell56096 ай бұрын
Fantastic!! Genuinely a man Of his word , true feelings in JOHN BE LUCKY 🙏🍀
@jamesbrowne53536 ай бұрын
I thought he was eloquent and 100% honest. I have known John and his family for years. A gentleman and genuine legend. JB.
@richardpetts51496 ай бұрын
Thank you Dodge and John, great episode, look forward to reading your book. Sorry for your loss of a child in Spain John, very sad indeed.
@jimmyquinn96395 ай бұрын
Excellent interview 👍👍👍👍👏👏👏👏
@michaeltrethowan19126 ай бұрын
Another brilliant interview
@Pauljennings666 ай бұрын
Another great interview,good job
@deangleeson35956 ай бұрын
This man escaped prison/ breached his licence a few times to be with a dying relative and ending up serving over double his original sentance, id been in winson green for 24 months and still had 42 months left in jail when i found out my father was dying, i thought about escaping every single day, i was a mess, i just thank god i met my wife and had kids after my jail time, dont wory about jail being physical its the mental game that will get you
@Home.Barissta6 ай бұрын
But if you hadn’t done the crime in the first place you wouldn’t be in that position, same as the guy on the pod, sorry to hear about your dad
@deangleeson35956 ай бұрын
@Home.Barissta yeah your right but were not all perfect, good people can make bad decisions, this was 20 years ago anyway I've grown alot since then, and thank you 👍
@See-through-The-Veil6 ай бұрын
@@deangleeson3595 Don't even give him your energy bro.. We all make mistakes, and I've made many.. But I'm a changed man today... Some of us are not born with Silver 🥄 in our mouths.. Be lucky Dean 👊🏽 All the best to you
@earealestate29614 ай бұрын
This is a fantastic resource for anyone just starting out on their financial journey. Your tips are practical and easy to follow!
@mandx6666 ай бұрын
Old school geezer podcast wow lovely. Thank you 💛
@francisrobb5166 ай бұрын
Brilliant podcast Dodge.......again! Very interesting life story! I hope Mr.Massey can enjoy his freedom and rebuild his life. Certainly been put through the mill by the prison authorities! God Bless Him .
@theabandonedhunter36046 ай бұрын
Absolutely Wicked that Dodge!! I wish John all the very best! ….Smithy
@woodgieadams61476 ай бұрын
Brilliant interview.
@Ahgjlo5 ай бұрын
Brilliant interview
@dancrowley-c9s6 ай бұрын
Another Great guest !!
@mattclarke66016 ай бұрын
Thanks Dodge, you pulled it off with that one mate. John is East End old school. A fine orator,articulate and intelligent with a great accent. I wouldn't have it with him at 76. He's in good nick and looks like he'd chew your earoles off
@richiebull59156 ай бұрын
Another blinder Dodge, thanks to you both.
@UndergroundTradersAlliance6 ай бұрын
Johns as legit as they come. Loved the interview. Thanks.
@JohnnyLawrence-h9b6 ай бұрын
Dodge I’m only half way through Johns story proper fella is John hasn’t glamorised he’s old life hasn’t given any names out old school firm rules 👊
@michaelcostello10536 ай бұрын
Hoxton st. N1 in the flats, John was a good friend of my old man
@TheJohnskinner4 ай бұрын
Top old school character, nice guest Dodge
@paulpower54126 ай бұрын
Proper old school brilliant listen brilliant podcast mate proper nice fella John proper gentleman would make a brilliant film brilliant listen
@jailen44446 ай бұрын
Thank you :) Amazing
@matty5066 ай бұрын
"I had my baby, Terry, in Spain named after my brother" dodge- "what was your brothers name?" 🤣
@DodgeWoodall6 ай бұрын
😂
@sneakybeach6 ай бұрын
What's an escort
@sneakybeach6 ай бұрын
Give me an example
@matty5066 ай бұрын
@@sneakybeach It's a car made by FORD.
@darrenmunro28806 ай бұрын
Excellent autobiography.
@samanthabrookes44876 ай бұрын
Love listening to the old school gangsters, what a lovely man John is!
@trz678y4 ай бұрын
Growing up in that hackney old st area angel just seems to be a breading ground for all types of criminals
@Theoriginalbigbrillo6 ай бұрын
Dodge , you have a unique way of bringing Out , your Podcast guests, Skeletons running away from the Cupboards! 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
@Adam-my4cm6 ай бұрын
Another great interview Dodge, what a life, but not one id particularly like, but them was the times eh?
@Granite-city18065 ай бұрын
I have never once felt anything like emotions in these podcasts,but Mr Massey reminded me of big John Gallagher survivor of the Peterhead regime,battered half to death of the SAS and still a gentleman. You aren’t built for prison it is survival nobody thrives in the jail. You survive if your lucky enough to have a lib date ,as I always had and the lifers were by far the best characters I came across ✌️🏴
@CarolineDocherty-m1b2 ай бұрын
Loved this 1 smashed it again dodge godbless this gentleman proper old school carlyx ❤
@VinylFrontier815 ай бұрын
quality dodge. all the best to john.
@kelp31506 ай бұрын
The one was definitely up there for me👊
@KevskyW425 күн бұрын
Great interview.
@jamesproctor45966 ай бұрын
Hope you are on commission for the books Dodge 😂 I have bought soo many!! Another one ordered!!
@careemshah6822 ай бұрын
I HAVE SPENT 2 WEEKS IN THE SAME CELL AS MR MASSEY .. In those two weeks we was separated but still in the same prison. Really nice guy and we are from our own. I’m Hackney BORN AND BRED. I have 2 weeks of memories I spent with John at HMP FORD. REALLY FUCKING NICE MAN ❤ I AM SOO HAPLY TO SEE HIM FREE .. Woyld live to see him again, have some dinner like we did, and catch up. I never knew who he was until a couple years after I was released. He is a really good stand up guy. Principles this man
@jamesproctor45966 ай бұрын
Top class yet again…
@horacemillar-jaja6036 ай бұрын
What an amazing story of johns life.Related in the most simple of terms no glamour.The regret that door man shouldn’t have fallen onto him, there was no intent to kill anyone in that club. As for the Prison system he beat it in my opinion he wasn’t broken . Live the remainder of your life happy and in good health John .
@timothy6356 ай бұрын
Fantastic interview 👌👍 And about time someone in the know talked honestly about Bronson's narcissistic bollox, and the acolytes who he has fooled into believe him, the last grift being the " long lost son " demanding a public parole hearing. 🤔 I wish Mr Massy all the best in the next chapter of this thing we call life. 🙏🙏
@Alanhock756 ай бұрын
Read his book, I was an officer at Albany when he was there, out recollections differ about how things happened
@danieladams8026 ай бұрын
Are you able to tell us how?
@kevincooper67416 ай бұрын
He ain’t gonna tell us, cos he was probably one of the screws, mob handed kicking the shit out of John at 3 in the morning 🤷 Hence why he’s keeping quiet, tosser 🤷
@kylewilliams41516 ай бұрын
Great podcast dodge
@esasrl33846 ай бұрын
Biggest lesson to be learned here is, if you want to be a real criminal stay off drugs and booze! Like all the Italians men of honour do.
@patterdaleman11416 ай бұрын
Great podcast Gentleman,
@Danny-cp6bl6 ай бұрын
Think I’ll be buying his book. I bet he’s loads of stories to tell- one of those guys you know aren’t bigging his tales up👌
@skullbonefortnitefilms41566 ай бұрын
Good luck to John for the future. I hope he has a long and happy life.
@JohnnyLawrence-h9b6 ай бұрын
Dodge absolute quality
@thehomefront19056 ай бұрын
Fourty three years inside? What a sad waste of all those years.
@JimtheFist16 ай бұрын
Great podcast
@davidmckitty81296 ай бұрын
Great interview 👍
@Micheal-Knight-4 ай бұрын
You'll only ever see a suit that sharp on an old London villain.... 👍
@55tranquility6 ай бұрын
43 years, that's only 6 years less than I've been alive! Yes I know he took someone's life - but it's hard to wrap your head round being locked up for that amount of time.
@williamflint65356 ай бұрын
Tremendous podcast
@kyliebaby13916 ай бұрын
In answer to his question, he absolutely isn’t the worst of the people who’ve killed, let alone worse than all the criminals in or out in Britain. I work with some of the most violent ex offenders and he seems genuine, he accepts responsibility not just because of the extra 23yrs but through heart. Unlike the nonces that get 3yrs or less for ruining every child’s life they’ve ever come into contact with, most of those kids end up in prison or the mental health system due to trauma. In my opinion they are the ones that should never get out or a life sentence for every child they abused. Just like the children who never recover. VP wings are the easiest in any prison. That’s a direct quote from those monsters. I’m lucky I rarely cross paths with them. John you were done over and my heart goes out to you. 🤗
@paulwilliams87256 ай бұрын
Brilliant 👍
@Smithyboy-jh7wn6 ай бұрын
Again drink every man’s downfall if you can’t control it one night of madness ends in a lifetime of hell. Brilliant podcast dodge ❤
@timcahill75666 ай бұрын
Class act as a man. What is sad is the fact he has so much time on his hands that he has all the time in the world to tell a story!! This isn't meant to be an issue but an observation as is never someone else's fault
@timcahill75666 ай бұрын
Hope your pal is good they are feeling and far between..if he is still your pal after all this time the man is proper salt to say the least
@VH198456 ай бұрын
Interesting character. Not sure I agree with the argument relating to the severity of his sentence, and his belief "I'm not as bad as some people" angle. If you don’t want to do the time, don’t do the crime. An interesting interview. Im always fascinated how these people end up as heroes, or revered for what they've done with things downplayed to a "You've lived a life, you little rascal haven't you?!" Is it because they're all ancient now and because they look like someone's Grandad? Does that take the edge off what they've done in their younger days to make it more palletable? Good, interesting, thought provoking interview.
@westhamunited6715 күн бұрын
Totally agree well put👍
@darrenduncan61806 ай бұрын
Some wise words and lessons to be learned from an OG
@Spartaix4 ай бұрын
This has tobe made into a film brilliant 👍
@davidthomson35923 ай бұрын
Top man great story can tell he’s an old school genuine gent !! Wish him all the luck
@mrunitedkingdom086 ай бұрын
Great podcast dodge more of these please would love to know who his partner was
@colinhaywood54706 ай бұрын
THE PODCAST LEGEND DODGE 🤩
@jackhammer-cd7fc6 ай бұрын
Great podcast as well your definitely up there we the best host for sure bosh get mooshtips on the podcast or GAZZA if you can mate
@DodgeWoodall6 ай бұрын
Thanks Jack and leave with me 👍🏼👍🏼
@JohnnyLawrence-h9b6 ай бұрын
Loving John story
@BenA-yc3df6 ай бұрын
lot of podcasts getting boring now. Your still pulling out good guests nice one dodge get Paul Allen from securitas on 👍
@DodgeWoodall6 ай бұрын
Much appreciated Ben 👍🏼👍🏼
@johnpower35726 ай бұрын
Was in long lartin and Maidstone with John
@johno71726 ай бұрын
Hope youre ok John. All the best mate
@robwood83314 ай бұрын
Go on John I hope you enjoy your free years mate
@Sol-Cutta6 ай бұрын
One of the first things u do with new gaff is change the doors to open OUTWARDS. Climeinable windows need half securing...no place without basement...rest u can imagine, or not 😂😂😂
@Sol-Cutta6 ай бұрын
My old man was a REAL hard bastard , a coalman and slaughterman. He didnt use knuckle dusters. We have romanies in family and ALL respected my dad, he never got piss took like everyone else..he used to have a thing where pushed too far he would kind of black out then go mental in a fight. Jailed only once and as a result of another. R.i.p Robin (bob) Norton.
@johnsilver43926 ай бұрын
I was in Pentonville with John, proper geeeezer ❤
@johnsilver43926 ай бұрын
Did he tell about the escape for pentonville over the gym wall 🙈🙉🙊
@johnsilver43926 ай бұрын
I was No1 listener in Da Ville
@elijahmichaels1756 ай бұрын
THE FEELING OF SADNESS IS HARD TO BARE DODGE...IF HIS FATHER WAS DIFFERENT ALL THIS SADNESS COULD HAVE BEEN AVOIDED ..A LESSON WE WHO ARE FATHERS SHOULD REMEMBER AT GUIDING OUR CHILDREN WITH AS MUCH LOVE AND WISDOM AS POSSIBLE...SUCH SADNESS IS HARD TO WATCH NEVER MIND WHAT HE HAS TO CARRY
@colinstewart80476 ай бұрын
Old school con - Knows the score too
@JamesFrost-x6t6 ай бұрын
Most enjoyable 1 too date dodge, watched him on j English, enjoyed that too, great bloke, just unlucky on a stupid decision when young !
@martinattwood78016 ай бұрын
I think i prefer people who have done good things rather than listening to scumbags. Any luck getting Tom Aspinal on ?
@beenthruthedark84476 ай бұрын
Like your channel great interviewer a lot better people and vibe than your he podcasters in the uk
@DodgeWoodall6 ай бұрын
Kind words mate 🇬🇧🙏
@TheHendoncat6 ай бұрын
Just a hint of Don Logan about this chap @4:20 in 😂
@StephenH-ms9og6 ай бұрын
Insinuendos
@TheHendoncat6 ай бұрын
@@StephenH-ms9og “nice eyes Deedee , are they real ?🤣👍
@StephenH-ms9og6 ай бұрын
@@TheHendoncat lol🤣.'Why are you swearing? Im not swearing'
@tinadixey54006 ай бұрын
really interesting story..obviously times were harder in those days and for many crime was a way of life...didnt he pay dearly though