Kent Hovind Knows Nothing

[@CreationMyths]

I can't believe I have to say this, but turns out I do: If you're going to come in here with racist and/or anti-lgbt+ groomer qanon bullshit, you will be permabanned immediately. No warnings, no second chances.

[@colinsmith1288]

How about hate speech of any kind if you truly want to be altruistic. Or is only the ultra Liberal stance you are dictating. Anyway your not my cup of tea so please feel free to permanently ban me. Not a big fan of hypocrites.

[@AlbertaGeek]

@@earth_is_flat-ry1lw _"This is not ultra-liberal"_ It is if you're ultra-far right.

[@AlbertaGeek]

@@colinsmith1288 _"please feel free to permanently ban me"_ ...And nothing of value was lost.

[@colinsmith1288]

@@AlbertaGeek So why waste your time saying so.!

[@AlbertaGeek]

@@colinsmith1288 Your lack of self-awareness is unsurprising.

[@andrewp.7626]

He claims to be an expert on evolution and doesn't even know how DNA works... why am I not surprised.

[@Vindsus86]

... because he's Kent Hovind.

[@yuli7140]

Of course he is not going to know anything about it.. it’s a stupid theory that doesn’t make any sense

[@BaronVonQuiply]

@@yuli7140 I fully accept that your understanding of evolution is stupid and doesn't exist.

[@Ugly_German_Truths]

he doesn't even know how to define evolution... "six kinds" what a joke...

[@andrewpeno8259]

@@Ugly_German_Truths definition of evolution "trillions upon trillions of blind accidents , and things just got better with each accident", ye, that makes perfect sense.

[@tylerwest719]

Dr. Dan: Which mechanisms of evolution do not work? Kent: Do you believe an elephant is related to a potato? 😂 Classic Kent dodge

[@andrewpeno8259]

all of them,

[@tylerwest719]

@@andrewpeno8259 And what do you know that a world wide network of scientific experts do not?

[@cliveadams7629]

Kunt relies on people rising to his bait to make money. But then so do the people who rise to his bait. It's a mutual appreciation society, they all get views, subs and cash from it so you won't stop them.

[@gryph01]

It is his classic dodge... and his audience eats it up. Whenever he says do you think that you are related to a strawberry, I always respond with... not directly since we are in the Animalia Kingdom and strawberries are in the Plantae Kingdom. But both kingdoms have a come ancestor.

[@colinsmith1288]

​@@gryph01 l find Ken hovind a credible and intellectual debater. His delivery is old fashioned that is what makes him seem out of step. But the opposing debater was trying to intellectually trip Ken up and failed. Ken did answer his questions but was frustrated by the debater trying to dictate the narrative,namely what Ken could and could not say.

[@misterarchaeopteryx7223]

The sad thing is, Hovind teaching the whole “ladder splitting down the middle” DNA recombination in one of his DVDs that he was peddling as a “college level course.”

[@CreationMyths]

Ooooooof.

[@smaakjeks]

@@CreationMyths Everybody knows DNA is a velcro strap, not a zipper.

[@ijaripanju3408]

Hey who is to say Kent's course isn't college level ...? It's appropriate when you consider it's designed for "clown" college. Don't tell you don't think Hovind isnt clown spitting his nonsense...

[@irenafarm]

This was hilarious. I learned that this was how it worked in high school. But It was a mission school, in the 80’s, and our biology book came from Bob Jones. ☠️

[@JohnTorres1987]

It’s like a zipper and it unzips itself and then mixes with the other half from the female and then it zips itself back up. Duh! Kent won two Nobel prizes for this discovery.

[@Soliditude]

You’ve demonstrated in a few minutes that’s he’s an idiot instead of engaging with his script. Bravo.

[@CreationMyths]

If anyone's dealing with Kent, call out the script, point out he dodged, and bring it back to the thing you said. Don't let him dictate the flow.

[@Bomtombadi1]

I’ve seen Kent lose his mind when you strawman his beliefs. Suddenly that demand for no cursing no longer applies to him.

[@jongarner8073]

Your an idiot, he never even stated his best evidence for evolution but all you see is how he disrupted Kent countlessly and disrespected him and you call that knowledge lol

[@pleasestop5643]

@@CreationMyths That was the greatest slap I've ever seen delivered to Kent. I just want to thank you for the extreme elation I just experienced watching Kent's uncomfortable face after that complete raze of his beliefs. You circumvented his script so skillfully. I just want to thank you a thousand times. It felt like I was looking upon Jesus Christ (if he were real) when I saw you smiling after his fallacious explanation of recombination. Thank you, sir.

[@Seratan144]

@@CreationMyths Kent is right. You are dishonest.

[@bsmeh]

The Bible is lines in a page, too, Kent.

[@tabularasa0606]

And written by people that were ignorant on a lot of things.

[@ferdinandoescobar7497]

People need to repent from their sins and believe in Jesus Christ.

[@ijaripanju3408]

​@@ferdinandoescobar7497 yea accept Jesus Christ ( if he even existed ) was Jewish....but more importantly was human . ...just human . Hercules was also part human part god ,so was Julius Ceasar (all three examples were allegedly) ..only one with best evidence of actually existing was Julius Ceasar ..and anybody who isn't looney tunes will say he was also just human .

[@alexandergordon648]

The funniest part of this is when Kent begs and pleads for his biased "moderator" to shut you up when you start unraveling his bullshit, but the FIRST time you get to speak uninterrupted he tries to interrupt you. Even if you know nothing about Kent, that's an obvious sign that he doesn't want to actually have a conversation. He just wants to crack jokes like "haha you're related to a potato!!" because he has no arguments.

[@EdwardHowton]

Psychopaths don't believe people are real and so rules don't apply to anyone but themselves. It's not even hypocrisy, really, not to Kent; he thinks He is the only true Person(tm)(r)(c) and everyone else is just a thing to be used for whatever Kent's purposes are. Why do you think Kent goes through so many pseudo-wives and junkie disciples? Use'em while they last and lose'em when they stop being convenient. Much like someone else everyone could name.

[@thomasfplm]

The only thing I can respect from them is that the moderator also told him to wait his turn.

[@alexandergordon648]

@thomasfplm the moderator, Standing For Truth, did an alright job moderating this time. However, he is incredibly biased towards Kent and I do not condone his normal moderation

[@thomasfplm]

@@alexandergordon648 , yes, that's why I said it was the only thing I respected.

[@colinsmith1288]

Simply dishonest. Dan was trying to dictate the criteria of what Ken could express himself with. This is not how debates work. Trying to outsmart someone without giving them time to defend their position is intellectual dishonesty. I think deriding someone with a flawed character is hardly a model of character superiority for the accuser.

[@WhatYourPastorDidntTellYou]

It's funny because all Kent had to do was say the 5 mechanisms of evolution and he would've gotten the respect of a lot of people. It would've been bonus points to state each one into detail. Imagine creationists flocking to him saying "Wow that's how smart Hovind is! He knows the view SO well and yet he still rejects it." It would've also made Dan look bad.

[@CreationMyths]

Pretty much, yeah. If he knew the most basic aspects of any of this he'd have come off looking great. But he doesn't, so this happened instead.

[@ANTICHRISTian736]

He probably had someone google the stuff thats why he took to long to actually answer the questions.

[@ziploc2000]

He doesn't know the basics, and doesn't want to know the basics, because he is incredibly lazy. He's found a niche area of ignorance he can milk and he's going to milk it all he can.

[@WhatYourPastorDidntTellYou]

@@ANTICHRISTian736 lol I would’ve just googled it right there on stream. 😂

[@shadoeboi212]

@@WhatYourPastorDidntTellYou there is some evidence as stated by Dapperdino that Kent isn't completely literate

[@michaelmccarthy4077]

"I will only continue if you cut off his mic" gosh, I remember Kent leaving a debate because he continually talked over the other person and his mic was cut off.

[@tramseyer]

Which debate was this? I don't think I've watched it yet.

[@michaelmccarthy4077]

@@tramseyer I can't honestly remember, it only lasted about five minutes so it wasn't much of a debate.

[@tramseyer]

@@michaelmccarthy4077 Oh nuts, I would like to have seen it. Oh well, I'll keep an eye out for it. Thank you anyway.

[@gryph01]

​@@michaelmccarthy4077 I don't think I saw that debate. But I heard about it and laughed.

[@irenafarm]

I mean that’s probably where he picked up that strat.

[@cynicallyskeptic4295]

Kent has also publicly admitted he can’t define what a dinosaur is even though he calls himself Dr.Dino.

[@CreationMyths]

Classic. If anyone hasn't seen it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oYHNaXpvjZmLr5o

[@TreVader1378]

It's an L and a D not an N.

[@haggismcbaggis9485]

Dinosaurs do not care how you define them. If you had 2 brain cells you would know what one looks like. Cough cough.

[@ianchenofficial]

DR Dan - you’re being generous that Rocky Kent named two of the mechanisms. In fact he only named them after you dropped enough hints on what they were. If you didn’t - he’d have named ZERO!!!

[@CreationMyths]

I think he legit got mutations but I'll give him half credit for natural selection, at best. The recombination thing is full Billy Madison territory.

[@zemorph42]

Mutations, natural, artificial and sexual selection, genetic drift. I never took a biology class, so let me know what I missed.

[@CreationMyths]

The list I use (which is not universal) is natural selection, genetic drift, mutation, gene flow, non-random mating.

[@tabularasa0606]

@@CreationMyths Which is basically the same one, just with different words.

[@Steelmage99]

@@CreationMyths Can you explain the difference between non-random mating and natural selection?

[@jakekimmerly1461]

​@@Steelmage99 non-random mating is when members of a species mate in a way that doesn't fit a random distribution such as brightly colored bluebirds mating with brightly colored bluebirds preferentially to duller colored bluebirds

[@Steelmage99]

@@jakekimmerly1461 " brightly colored bluebirds mating with brightly colored bluebirds preferentially to duller colored bluebirds" That's natural selection, right? The female peacock prefers the bigger and brighter male peacock due to natural selection......

[@AtheistJr]

Thank you for your comments up front. I feel the same way - I don't think anyone should debate Kent on SFT's channel. It clearly benefits him with Superchats. But if they are going to host these open mics, it's a far better format because it's less rigid. I can hop in and just call Kent a liar a bunch of times. It's fun! Great job Dan, if people HAVE to "debate" Kent, I think it's better that we show how it should be done, rather than let him debate stooges.

[@alexandergordon648]

How did I know I'd see you here?

[@CreationMyths]

@AtheistJunior exactly. Don't give him the time of day, don't give him view, don't give Donny money. If you *must*, if you *cannot resist*, do this. Do what you did. Call him on his shit. Don't let him dictate the flow. Force him off script and remind everyone that he can't respond.

[@snaptrap5558]

Not only does "Doctor" Kent not understand how dna recombination works, he doesn't even understand the dna molecule on the most fundamental level. Well done Dan

[@rossesteban7859]

No one has been able to fully figure out the DNA codes

[@snaptrap5558]

@@rossesteban7859 But we do know that the dna of the male and the dna of the female don't "zipper together", lol

[@BaronVonQuiply]

@@rossesteban7859 I have a source in Japan who has discovered quite a bit about it. Apparently you put in up, up, down, down, left, right, left, right, b, a.

[@hartmutholzgraefe]

@@rossesteban7859 Oh, the "DNA codes" we have figured out just fine, we know exactly which triplet of bases code for which of the twenty amino acids that proteins are being formed from, and we also know the start and stop code. What we are still figuring out are all the regulation methods that control which parts of the DNA are actually getting processed at a given time, during the development of an organism, its adult life, and how transcription can even be influenced over generations via epigenetic mechanisms. But the "DNA codes", so to say the "assembly language", we have figured out for a long time already.

[@andrewpeno8259]

You do know that all mutations are deleterious ( harmful), dont you? we have been studying this since about 1953

[@jloiben12]

I love how you treat Kent like a child. It is honestly the only way

[@pandora8610]

Fair's fair. He acts like a child, and has the education of one, at least on this subject.

[@irenafarm]

Kent treats others like children, only way more disrespectfully.

[@jeffmaehre7150]

Yeah, some creators are nice and polite to Kent and people pat them on the back for their "civility." I think that's wrong. That's treating Kent like a legit scientist, and it aids and abets his grift.

[@savvybee1723]

He is so shockingly disconnected from what's actually being said. "I'll only continue if you shut off his mic" should be Kent Hovind's motto. His points don't stand up to even the most cursory objection.

[@savvybee1723]

I DIDN'T WAIT LONG ENOUGH TO COMMENT, HIS UNDERSTANDING OF RECOMBINATION IS HYSTERICAL

[@CreationMyths]

OH my goodness the best part. Almost literally unbelievable that he thinks that, and doubles down!

[@TheKyrix82]

All you need to know is that Answers in Genesis considers this man a quack

[@ottopilot8550]

This and Conspiracy Catz’s making Kent “explain” allele frequencies have to be my two all-time favorite smackdowns of this fraudster. Bravo Dr Dan!

[@tabularasa0606]

He was not prepared for that!

[@phillipzachry7758]

Aron Ra did a pretty good discussion with him where he kept Hovind on the same issue and refused to let him do his typical dance from subject to subject.

[@Valfodr_jr]

Discussing with Kent is the real life "Argument"-skit by Monty Python. "This is not an argument, this is contradiction" "No, it isn't."

[@gryph01]

I love that skit!

[@brandonEAgnew2002]

Also I love how you asked him to name and define the 5 mechanisms, and once he named one he started to challenge you to a debate and this and that, then you reminded him he had four left to name and he started berating your behavior. How does anyone take Kent seriously??

[@JacksonWheat]

Not many people can truly trigger Kent, so that was fun to watch. Well played.

[@CreationMyths]

Thank you sir.

[@DinosaurianDude]

Indeed, I wouldn't have the patience.

[@zodfanza]

Kent's brilliant argument: "You're dreaming, you're stupid, it doesn't happen, it's a fairy tale." Y'know, Kent and Trump would get along really well, although, and it's absurd that there's someone one could possibly say this about, but Kent might even be the one person who could actually make Trump look smart by comparison.

[@thomasfplm]

The only thing that might stop them to get along is that their egos might be too big for whatever place they are to fit at the same time.

[@squirrelmaster760710]

Good that you admitted Kent is brilliant

[@thomasfplm]

@@squirrelmaster760710, or you just can't detect sarcasm.

[@squirrelmaster760710]

@@thomasfplm I was being sarcastic too. But you're right he is brilliant

[@daniellamcgee4251]

​@squirrelmaster760710 Phew! Glad you are being sarcastic about Kent being brilliant! 😅 I really thought you didn't notice he has no clue what he is talking about! And yes, I am being sarcastic. 😔 I really hope you are a troll, and not so easily fooled by ignorant narcissists and their gifts, whose only skill is showmanship.

[@TheRobertCarpenter]

Also remember that Kent "Dr Dino" Hovind doesn't actually know what characteristics make up a dinosaur. It basically stops at whatever showed up in Jurassic Park.

[@CreationMyths]

The "are birds dinosaurs" debate with Dapper Dino was the best Kent debate. Just perfect.

[@TheRobertCarpenter]

@@CreationMyths I certainly agree. I mean lots of folks have made Kent look foolish. Lots of people have shattered his arguments, but Dapper basically dismantled the brand. An icon truly.

[@Ugly_German_Truths]

@@CreationMyths idk. I liked the "I was not prepared for this" when he talked to Conspiracy Catz too... (now culture catz and his former science leaning channels have been given to MC Toons and Mr Sensible)

[@davidosilverman900]

He knows that he knows nothing. He's a salesman.

[@silentcaay]

Conspiracy Catz: Kent wasn't prepared for that!

[@prschuster]

DNA unzips!!! Kent describes mitosis when he tries to explain meiosis and fertilization.

[@rotoehu9266]

Dan, ironically enough, it was your ‘macro evolution’ debate against Kent a couple of years back that lead to my sub. The way you approached that debate and shut Kent down was pure genius - it’s well worth a (re)watch - particularly since it will unlikely be repeated.

[@CreationMyths]

Now that warms my heart, thank you.

[@AtheistJr]

For me it's the Noah's Ark debate that I really like. Getting to bust Kent for lying about meeting Walt Brown was hilarious.

[@CreationMyths]

That was fantastic follow-up work on your part.

[@theflyingdutchguy9870]

the guy is one of the most frustrating science denier out there. just makes my blood boil

[@zodfanza]

My jaw literally dropped that Kent, whose claim to fame in his DVDs was that he "TAUGHT high school science for 15 years" does NOT understand meiosis!

[@zodfanza]

The moment Kent started talking it was REALLY frustrating and hard to watch. Phew. Also the moderator bias and general kowtowing to Kent's tantruming was just embarrassing. Well done for sticking to your guns. People shouldn't debate someone who won't even try. Also it's funny to see him getting frustrated because he's usually the one who tries to make other people feel stupid and clearly hates being SHOWN to be incompetent.

[@LordTails]

Hovind no joke sounds like a scammer that is going on a script or some bot who cannot understand something even slightly different than the expected input. You had a lot of restraint and I admire that.

[@jcgadfly6200]

Didn't Thunderf00t smack Hovind around on the DNA "half ladder" stuff far back in the mists of ancient time? I'm surprised he's still using it.

[@mrapistevist]

Yes, it's part of Thunderf00t's Why Do People Laugh at Creationists.

[@phillipzachry7758]

"They drew lines on paper" Isn't the bible just ink on paper? It's nice to see he's just against literacy and publication

[@snaptrap5558]

That "doctor" gets rather belligerent when people point out how little he understands his topics.

[@zemorph42]

"They drew lines on paper and that's all they did" No, Kent; that's not all they did, and you know that, liar!

[@ParanormalEncyclopedia]

I'm not convinced he knows, Kent is DEEPLY stupid

[@nagranoth_]

Bravo for not engaging with the script but rather exposing it

[@mitchellminer9597]

Kent is one of those people who had a mentor who was more intelligent than they were. Kent memorized the factoids, and copied the techniques, and picked up the attitude, but he really has no idea what he's doing. He'll pop out something pompous, sneer, and totally ignore all responses because that's all he's got. He is literally doing a ritual dance and assuming victory.

[@johncronin9540]

He’s a legend in his own mind, and I doubt he has ever had an original thought in his life.

[@ParanormalEncyclopedia]

How to debate Kent: Copy paste clips of him from other debates and debate that. I'm not sure even he would know the difference.

[@FlappySock]

Amazing! Kent going off-script is like watching a train wreck

[@Dr.ChrisThompson]

Fantastic video. I attended TWO DAYS of Kent Hovind lectures when I was in grad school. It was excruciating. At that series of lectures, Kent went into all kinds of weird talk about the New World Order and other weird stuff. The worst part was when he favorably cited The Protocols of the Elders of Zion as evidence of the vast conspiracy. Scary stuff.

[@CreationMyths]

For real? Is that on video anywhere?

[@Dr.ChrisThompson]

@@CreationMyths Yes, for real. I have some developments on this and will get back to you.

[@Dr.ChrisThompson]

@@CreationMyths I have made a video about this that is scheduled to air tonight. Please check it out!

[@DinosaurianDude]

​@@Dr.ChrisThompsonI'm not surprised Kent comes with a new video at Saturday's date. ;)

[@irenafarm]

Whaaaaa

[@tctheunbeliever]

I like how he complains about where "our" tax money is going. He doesn't pay his taxes. I guess mentioning this would lead to a lot of sovereign citizen crap.

[@silverharloe]

a competent high school level programmer could make a Hovind simulator - it's not nearly as complex or interesting as ChatGPT - the code would just watch the input for keywords from a list, and when it sees one, stop taking input and print the paragraph associated with that keyword. Then print several other pre written paragraphs after.

[@misterocain]

I still want the likes of Kent to tell me which biological mechanism keeps count of all the small changes to identify when no more changes can be permitted i.e. what is the biological barrier that defines "kind".

[@Arlondev]

I want to pose as a flat earther and debate Kent Hovind on flat-earth. For someone who treats modern science as the devil and the bible as law, he's going to find it really hard to justify the scientific position on the spherical earth against the bible.

[@addish5022]

I would actually watch that stream. Funniest shit ever.

[@yup8865]

Ah yes, we live in a dome with an ocean in the sky.

[@derekhenrich8099]

That says a lot about how Kent views his audience. They're not worth familiarizing with the topic he's talking about... 🙄

[@CreationMyths]

Yup! That's a thing with a lot of creationists. Complete lack of respect for their audience.

[@feedingravens]

@@CreationMyths Such people that promote such cults that claim "when you follow my slogan, you are RIGHT and all others are wrong" are all abusing their target group, they are just the material for their wealth and their glory.

[@EdwardHowton]

Let's be blunt; I have absolutely no respect for any religious person _at all._ Not a single one of them, not even a little bit. Arguably the exact opposite. I _STILL_ respect them more than Kent does. Kent and I both think they're completely ignorant, but Kent lies to them knowing they're too stupid to catch on, while I try to be as honest as possible to the dumb bastards. They'll hate me, but compared to Kent I'm their best friend. This might give you a hint as to why my opinion of them is so low, by the way.

[@DavidBadilloMusic]

Kent's reasoning is pretty much "I don't understand it, so it's false" and "It's too much information to go over it, so it's false".

[@kairoshs]

This was just beautiful lmao. Also I suspect "I'm going to look up his five mechanisms and debunk them one by one" actually just means "I'm going to work a few keywords referencing these mechanisms I don't understand to my script." Edit: having watched the end, I see you came to the same conclusion lol

[@TerenceClark]

I actually disagree with this. Kent almost never updates his script to include anything new. He just acts like he never heard it in the first place. Something aronra has pointed out many times

[@kairoshs]

@@TerenceClark Not really "update the script" per se, I just think he wanted Dan to actually say what the mechanisms were in like a debate opening statement so he can pretend to know what Dan is talking about, maybe repeat the term back once in a mocking tone before going off into his usual script. "Genetic drift? Dan that doesn't explain how a frog can turn into a prince" then forget he ever heard the term before in his life.

[@equusandromedae]

Kent Hovind is LITERALLY the Dunning-Kruger Effect personified

[@SpeciesPlantarum]

Bingo.

[@nagranoth_]

No Kent, evolution is not a slippery word. You just constantly lie about what it means. Doesn't change the real meaning...

[@charleslaine]

You should have had a hand held sign that read “that’s the script”.

[@CreationMyths]

I should have had one ready!

[@jloiben12]

4:40 Lol. Sam knows Kent is getting wrecked so he steps in to try and poison the well

[@D0nutdoodlebob]

That annoyed Tf outta me

[@A_GoogIe_User]

Well done sir. Loved the fact that he got angry. He knew he was in trouble. Since you cant talk over him people should have signs ready and hold them, with the text of the script he is bound to say.

[@CreationMyths]

Oh my goodness that's a great idea.

[@mrapistevist]

Hovind bingo.

[@thomasfplm]

One sign with the question to remember everyone what is that he isn't answering, and a sequence of signs with his script.

[@sicktodeath0_0]

And his inmate number from the Department of Corrections. 😆

[@thomasfplm]

@@sicktodeath0_0, if you do that, they'll just kick you out and you won't be able show his ignorance anymore.

[@Wulfspyder]

You know you got him good when his buttmonkey "moderators" have to start diving in to stop you doing their job.

[@CreationMyths]

Right? Constant ass-saving. The best was at the end when @criticalbasedtheory was like "hang on, Kent just said something crazy" and Donny basically threatened to boot him if he didn't shut up about it. Just constantly running interference and covering for him.

[@randylewis4242]

Don't give him the exposure by debating him.

[@CreationMyths]

I don't disagree...

[@kiwiruna9077]

Dr Dan, I'm sorry I didn't watch this as soon as it dropped, a masterclass in how to embarrass Hent Kovind this was glorious.

[@CreationMyths]

Thank you, that's what I like to hear.

[@VelvetRockStudios]

OK, I will admit that I was flabbergasted that Hovind knew the difference between eukaryotes and prokaryotes. Meanwhile, it's predictable but funny that he thinks that individuals (instead of a population's allele frequencies over time) "change into" something else.

[@EdwardHowton]

He didn't, though; at least, he doesn't show that in this video. He correctly identifies what a prokaryote is (though I personally missed him doing it), but Dan just _grants_ Kent the point that he probably knows what the other one is. It's a small distinction and it doesn't _necessarily_ mean he's ignorant of the second, but it's still not the same thing. Kent, if nothing else, is perfectly happy to know _one_ thing and then pretend like he knows everything forever; his lies work on the principle of "Look I know how big word therefore I am the smartest person alive".

[@VelvetRockStudios]

@@EdwardHowton: No, Hovind did correctly identify the inclusion and non-inclusion of a nucleus as distinguishing eukaryotes from prokaryotes.

[@tramseyer]

He should know the difference, Aron Ra kept coming back to that difference in one of their nonsequiter debates many years ago.

[@VelvetRockStudios]

@@tramseyer, true. But Hovind is not known for being a good listener. I didn't think he ever learned anything from debates. But perhaps this is an exception.

[@kingme79]

17:27 Ronaldo hit the nail on the head 💯

[@creationismsuperthesisguy]

Absolutely 💯

[@GuyInAChair3]

Since Kent is going to filibuster any question you give him, stick to your demand for equal time and demand he answer it within the time you took to ask the question.

[@CreationMyths]

Need a way to implement a chess clock kind of thing.

[@austinsims4560]

@@CreationMyths The last debate I did with a creationist we finished the debate off by doing rounds of cross examination. You could try to do something like that. You'll have to subject to being cross examined too but that's easy, most of your responses to their cross examination will just be correcting what they said.

[@zodfanza]

I'm actually glad you did the thing you said not to do because you actually conclusively resolved any question of Kent Hovind once and for all and demonstrated he's a non-starter for debate.

[@presto900]

The irony of the moderator Sam talking about being rude when during my debate, Kent routinely called my brainwashed and heavily implied I would be going to hell for debating him (assuming I was atheist). I also love how Sam immediately jumped to kents defense when he obviously had no idea any mechanisms on his own. The only way you will ever see these debates done is just like Sam requested you do it -- you have to give them the evidence because they have no idea what they are talking about and cannot adequately dismantle evolution on their own.

[@vidarlystadjohansen9829]

This was great, how did Kent not turn red?

[@CreationMyths]

Shamelessness is his superpower. As it is for the other YECs present, as well.

[@vidarlystadjohansen9829]

@@CreationMyths dishonesty , ignorance and shamelessness. And he is on his way to jail again I hear

[@daniellamcgee4251]

He is a narcissist with no conscience.

[@iansaxby9264]

The late Bill Ludlow made mincemeat of Kent Hovind a few years back. He researched Hovind's script, prepared rebuttals, and had a slideshow debunking every argument Hovind put forward. Best line of the debate was when Hovind started his spiel about tax money funding the teaching of evolution in schools, and Bill retorted "Why are you worried about how the government spends taxes that you don't even pay?". The full debate is still available on KZbin.

[@iansaxby9264]

Also of note is Aron Ra's debate with Hovind on the Nonsequitur Show in about 2019. Hovind was in a towering rage at the end because the mods refused to let him ramble on with his usual Gish gallop of red herrings, absurdities, and straight-up lies.

[@stevewebber707]

Well done. Claiming something can't happen when they don't even know what is proposed to be happening, is an argument unworthy of being taken seriously. And that's before taking into account all the cases of what Kent is claiming being blatantly false. It was painful watching him flounder, trying to answer a question precisely , despite holding relevant textbooks that could have helped him answer. He definitely did not like being called out for his ignorance, and perhaps it's petty, but I enjoyed watching him squirm. He doesn't get to pretend to expertise, expecting his following to trust his claims, and then expect to be immune to examination and criticism. I imagine that's why he got so upset, the pretense is all he has, so when deprived of that he looks pathetic. I think your position on debates with Kent is spot on.

[@CreationMyths]

Thanks for the comment, appreciate it.

[@himhimmington]

It pisses me off so much how the moderators kept getting on YOU for being rude when Kent interrupted just as much if not more and was far more belittling with his comments.

[@EdwardHowton]

By the way, if any of Kent's miserable excuses for fanboys are around and think Kent being able to name two of the five mechanisms of evolution is somehow a point in his favor, what he actually did was equivalent to correctly name at least one of the characters in the Harry Potter books by saying "I think Harry Potter is one of them". Most people who've never even read the books could do more than that and not a single one of them would feel as smug as Kent did about getting the most obvious ones. He's also saying "mutation alone doesn't do evolution, and natural selection alone doesn't do evolution, so evolution is fake!" which is exactly the same thing as saying "a brick alone doesn't make a house, and a window doesn't make a house, so houses don't exist!". To make a house you need bricks, windows, floors, structural beams, insulation, wiring, plumbing, plywood, gyprock, plaster, nails, screws, paint, doors, doorknobs, locks, and a ton of other things that WHEN PUT TOGETHER make a house. Evolution isn't "just" anything, it's what happens when you put all the pieces together. Kent isn't just a stupid asshole, he thinks YOU, _miserable fanboy,_ are a stupid asshole too, and he's lying to you because he knows you're too dumb to notice. It's the ONLY thing he's ever been right about, by the way.

[@CreationMyths]

That's the thing...why does his audience put up with this? It's insulting *to them*.

[@EdwardHowton]

@@CreationMyths The only thing I can figure is that their cult brainwashes them into thinking being lied to is the same thing as respect. I base it on the demonstrable fact that religious people have a more difficult time differentiating between reality and fantasy to the point where they can't even engage in hypotheticals. Since their _entire worldview_ is a lie, being lied to is fine as long as it's what they want to hear. It's _Theistspeak,_ right? Similar language to English, but the meaning of every word is reversed? Mix it with the cult defense mechanism of anti-intellectualism and you've got a sickening recipe for "insult me more daddy Kent" and the ever-increasing trend of every-accusation-is-a-confession.

[@austinsims4560]

@@CreationMyths They *want* to be lied to. They want to be told "Nothing contradicts our shared fantasy, it's all just lies." They want to believe that.

[@jloiben12]

I find it so funny that people argue that evolution isn’t a thing when we have support for evolution from unrelated fields such as economics

[@MST3Kfan1]

Beautiful work, Dr Dan.

[@pedroamaralcouto]

18:22 If that description was correct, then all or half the progeny would have exactly the same genome.

[@AtheistJr]

10:20 Good moderation from Donny - I want to give credit where credit is due.

[@cliveadams7629]

He knows how to grift, he knows how to avoid taxes, though not successfully, he knows how to beat on women. Sadly all he knows is harmful and unpleasant.

[@CadillacBunner]

Mad respect for anyone patient enough to talk to Kent. He is such a mean man.

[@CreationMyths]

The worst. I do think more and more people are catching on to just how gross he is.

[@madrums007]

"would you please shut up when I'm talking" good to see the holy spirit moving kent to be a real gentleman

[@MrLightSkin.]

Kent hovind is 70 years old and has been through alot so it should be expected for him to be a little grumpy every now and then

[@drlegendre]

I've been saying for a long time that no one, and definitely no one of any note, should engage in any sort of "debate" with Kent Hovind. You're only giving him more airtime, more opportunities to spread his disinformation.

[@CreationMyths]

You're not wrong!

[@DarkRanger1975]

Unfortunately you could show him evolution happening in real time, and he would never accept it. He is also incapable of being honest, his life depends on his continually lying to his followers. Another thing standing for truth is also incapable of being honest.

[@wheels5894]

Hovind is really a terrible guy to listen to never mind debate. He really does have the scripts memorised as you say. Interestingly, his son seems to have stolen the scripts as he does word for word renditions sometimes

[@archapmangcmg]

Kent advertised himself on the call as "Dr Kent the Science Gent!!!" not one, not two but THREE exclamation marks! "Don't ask me about the science." Fucking hell!

[@nascarfancar88]

that group are a bunch of clowns, most creationists are . looking forward to more of your videos !!!

[@simonmcglary]

He even misquotes Darwin and strongest or fittest survive. “It isn’t the fittest that survive, neither is it the most intelligent rather it is the most able to adapt that survives.”

[@Menoetia]

6:19 He knows nothing, _and_ he is quite rude. I've noticed this a number of times , in just about ever 'debate' he's ever participated in. Also, the 'moderators' doing their damndest to avoid you forcing him off his script because they *know* that it's a script and the second you get him off of it, he will immediately proceed to make himself look exactly as ignorant as he is.

[@CreationMyths]

Yeah, that's a *thing* on SFT, the moderators (SFT or whoever else) will run interference for the guest (usually Kent) to get them out of a tight spot.

[@austinsims4560]

@@CreationMyths Well yeah it's a recruitment racket for right wing extremism and their recruitment numbers suffer when they are made to look stupid.

[@gupdoo3]

"Don't interrupt me" [tries to interrupt Dan]

[@earthlyskeptic4539]

Surprisingly, very few debaters have successfully bought out Kent’s ignorance of evolution. People debating Kent usually react to his script, which is precisely what he wants. So, good job on that front! In addition to the video, I can think of a debate with Conspiracy Catz where Kent said that genes are the _rungs_ of the DNA ladder! Do more of this and Kent will be out of business. Wait, he probably is as his KZbin channel is gone.

[@davidOrtmann-tm2kt]

I was and am a truth seeker. One thing in my experience in the U. S. Army caused me to wonder about why are we here, why is the sun and the moon and stars so insinct in their orbits and where on earth did they come from, and why am I always seeking for peace. I purchased a bonafide gem of a stereo whist I was serving and started to get lost in Rock and Roll music, drugs and alcohol and having sex with whomever I could attract. This lifestyle caused a deep and severe depression that I could not shake. I was hospitalized one year after E. T. S. from the military with depression. It was there that I was given a pamphlet entitled "The four spirtual laws. Which in a nutshell are one, I am a sinner(I. E. I lie, I steal, I ...I...I...) two, there is a Creator who was actually in existence before we were. three, He is Holy and because of my sin I have created an uncrossable gulf between me and Him for by we can have fellowship(Which in a nutshell is the answer to why I am here on this planet) and finally, the uncrossable gulf between me and my Creator was miraculously bridged by the death, burial, and resurrection of His only begotten Son, our Lord Jesus! So If you are like me and wondering why the world could be so screwed up when the beauty of nature isn't, then seek God for yourself.

[@mrapistevist]

This is not news 😉

[@CreationMyths]

You're not wrong! But I bet it's worse than you thought.

[@mrapistevist]

@@CreationMyths I was thinking about his "unwind the DNA and it goes from here to Chicago" video, but you brought it up in this one. 😅😅 It's not just biology, the man is scientifically illiterate, his ignorance is astounding in this day and age.

[@williamscott8378]

The audacity of calling someone who is trying to get a fraudulent domestic abuser to clearly answer a question "rude" is stunning

[@stefanmud991]

Love the way you exposed Kent`s ignorance. This is exactly how everyone should do it regardless of what part of science which is debated

[@maxjohn6012]

I wholeheartedly approve of your approach here. If someone is incapable of opening their mouth to express an opinion on a particular topic without getting at least one foot lodged in there, there is no point talking to them about that subject. Kent's understanding of recombination was, I agree, 100% grade-A Colombian bat shit crazy. No amount of post hoc scrabbling to point out that it's off-topic to give someone the bare minimum of rope, then watching the predictable consequences unfold (especially in such spectacular fashion), can detract from the impact of such a simple demonstration that Kent's opinions on this subject are fundamentally worthless. I've had numerous conversations on social media with primate change deniers that have followed a very similar trajectory, and it's kind of disturbing to speculate that a likely reason for this is that Kent is incredibly popular in those circles.

[@SaxyCalzone]

Donny is the patron saint of simps

[@CreationMyths]

The attempted save at the end...have some dignity, man.

[@barrry9]

Lost for words on that exchange. I'd love someone to agree to a debate with Hovind on the proviso they are allowed to press a buzzer every time he gets something factually wrong. Only problem is, the whole debate would just be the buzzer going off every few seconds

[@CreationMyths]

I mean...why ask for permission. Just do it.

[@Darthloozer]

One thing I’ve noticed about his debates is that no matter what the original topic is he’ll always claim that “evolution is a religion being taught in public schools at tax payers expense” or some variation of that. One thing I’d want people to press him are the multiple court cases that have successfully ruled against teaching Intelligent Design in the classroom. Furthermore even people of faith don’t want Intelligent Design to be taught in public schools.

[@creationismsuperthesisguy]

It's not that he just "doesn't know" he doesn't want to learn anything about the topic. He doesn't want to actually learn or discuss the real possibilities. He only does when he absolutely has to. Like how he "admits" speciation but doesn't accept it is macroevolution, and even macroevolution that is now observable thanks to modern experiments that use small organisms with high reproductive rates and low life spans allowing for a large number of generations. We've observed full on speciation in as few as 30,000 generations! He admits this but just makes a semantics argument about how it's not evolution it doesn't count because blah blah not change in kind, they didn't change into birds or some other modern organism, blah blah blah not at all how it works! Evolutionary theory means a few million years from now there will be new clades of creatures for whatever we turn into to look at, assuming our dumb asses somehow raise generations smarter than us and survive and it's supported by a ton of evidence. That's the only argument he has. That evolution isn't true because you can't turn an amoeba into a whale. He says he objects because he doesn't want taxes wasted on educating people with facts that he doesn't know but everyone is trying to just get him still to just understand the actual topic.

[@BaronVonQuiply]

I'm going to take a wild guess here, a massive bet, risk it all, put everything on there line, and say that there's a possibility that the moderator may be a young earth creationist.

[@hihidaruma1015]

As a Christian who really loves real science, it's sad that he makes us look stupid by association. I went to an accredited Lutheran University and it's sad that because of people not wanting truth I wasn't able to take a course in Evolutionary Biology and I really wish I had... Having to teach myself is not my strength

[@command.cyborg]

As far as I know, he used to say amoeba, where he now says 'protozoa', until he debated professor Dave. So the "I only say it because this textbook does" is an after construction. (If he went to find this book after the prof. Dave debate, I've no idea. But it being from 2021, it's definitely one of the newest items in the K*nt's textbook collection) Good job, trying to keep him on topic! 😊👍

[@ConservativeMirror]

We all grew from single fertilized cells so I don't get the incredulity from creationists.

[@danhoff4401]

Yeah, thats about as clear of a demonstration Kent is an ignoramus as Ive seen in awhile

[@anyone9689]

Kent's entire schtick is a classic arguement from ignorance fallacy

[@therosrex5488]

I think you have a solid idea of how to handle him, Dan. But if you try this again, you need more time. Being pressed for time made you come off as nervous and jumpy, and makes you seem like more of a troll than someone schooling Kent. Not trying to be mean at all here, like I said, good strategy! But I feel like some breathing room would help you out a bit.

[@CreationMyths]

Yeah, hear you, but I have to take what you can get. I don't intend to repeat the performance; made my point.

[@js1423]

I don't think Kent knows much about anything. His debates with Christians like Joel Edmund Anderson and InspiringPhilosophy were hilarious.

[@JustKingAteo]

Loved this smack down u gave him

[@PurpleChevron]

With all due respect to you, I think your first impulse was the correct one: giving any time to Kent Hovind is a Sisyphean effort at best and does nothing constructive.

[@jamespacker9110]

Covering up for sex abusers is par for the course for religious “leaders”, which I’m sure Kent sees himself as. Especially for Baptist churches, which Kent is supposedly the pastor of. He just had to build one and make himself the pastor.