The Best New Switch Pro Controllers

Drift free Nintnedo Switch Controllers are becoming a thing, so lets take a look at the two lead ones right now and which ones right for you.
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8bitdo Ultimate Controller
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King Kong Pro 2
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[@redrubberpenguin]

Small note: hall effect sticks aren't "new". The Dreamcast and Saturn controllers used them. Since stick drift is becoming more prominent though the return of their use is just more desirable and therefore marketable.

[@ages9105]

Damn SEGA really did what others didn’t.

[@ascenphis]

​@@ages9105 NINTENDONT DAMNIT

[@Mari_Izu]

I bet the big 3 will ignore it on their default controllers because they wearing off fast is lucrative.

[@Talk-Nerdy-To-Me]

@@Mari_Izu This is exactly why they're not using Hall Effect, because it's a very lucrative income stream with gamers replacing shitty controllers regularly.

[@seatedarmchair6229]

ps3 also doesn't have rubbing parts, and from what I hear quite a few more. I heard it's a priority companies stopped with so their controllers get replaced more often.

[@athenovae]

I think having a visual when remapping and changing controller settings is pretty important. It’s the Ultimate for me. ☺️

[@linuxpirate]

Skill issue

[@Jeno_Sinatra]

@@linuxpirate -🤓

[@holyhelga]

i agree visual remapping is a good feature to have

[@qwormuli77]

Besides, it's not like you don't have either your phone or a PC (and yes, the vid neglected to mention it, but the software is for your PC, too) at hand in almost every place you'd use a controller in. The accuracy and clarity of the software is a definite win for 8bitdo here for me.

[@kokonotsu_j]

Been using 8bitdo ultimate for a month, the experience has been fantastic, especially with the charging dock and the 2.4G / BT switch on the back. Smooth switching between my switch and PC has been a deal breaker for me.

[@xugo91]

Is there a cable to play wired ? And is It good ? (like, the battery don't go down while playing wired ? Because I get this issue with my switch pro controller on PC)

[@nawsih848]

@@xugo91 u can use regular USB cable for wired connection

[@xugo91]

@@nawsih848 for switch pro ? Yes but u need some software, go look a tutorial

[@markymaarty]

Does if work on appletv?

[@holyhelga]

@@xugo91 my experience about taking controller wired is the port tend to get loose after a while so the cable dont stay properly connected and rechargable batteries only have a sertai9n amount of charges even if its many i bought a first arty battery pack for my xbox controller and now after a long while i bearly keep any charge in all honesty it may just be the cell in that pack but dont change rechargable batteries only have a limited amout of recharges

[@JimIBobIJones]

Its worth pointing out that for use outside of switches, the 8bitdo is in a different league to the kingkong because it has 2.4ghz connectivity as well as bluetooth. Bluetooth has noticeable lag compared to 2.4ghz, and there is no getting around it. Fine if you are just using the switch, and a 2.4ghz connection isn't an option but there are large user bases that also play on PC that will be looking at these.

[@krayozmines]

Yes. This is exactly why i got the 8bitdo

[@hua..]

The Gulikit controller can do it too, but you need to get their proprietary dongle

[@JimIBobIJones]

@@hua.. pretty sure the 2 is Bluetooth only for wireless. The new 3 (which wasn't out 9 months ago) has decent 1000hz 2.4ghz wireless though.

[@moestack87]

for the switch only, which one is the best

[@karuiGaming]

freaking FINALLY SOMEONE IS GIVING JUSTICE TO THE GULIKIT CONTROLLER! I couldn't even try to explain how unfair I felt that people are praising the 8bitdo controller without even mentioning the King Kong Pro 2. Something that you missed that may be important is that King Kong Pro 2 does NOT use the traditional rubber membranes in the Face buttons and the shoulder buttons. I have gone through 2 8bitdo controllers where the rubber membranes got torn, making the buttons stick a lot, and ~~replacements are not on sale.~~ (Edit: They're available now in their official website . Thanks to Pars that commented on this) King Kong pro have weird keyboard-switch-looking parts that are easily replaced and are not prone to tearing! making them last more for people like me who press buttons a little too hard!

[@muligoon152]

And people should know: the 8bitdo controller literally uses HAL effect analog sticks made by Gulikit. Also, Gulikit is working on a handheld analog stick that works with HAL effect...so that could potentially mean HAL effect joy-cons in the future. With that said I do love the 8bitdo Ultimate. The docking station and the fact that if you plug the docking station into the console it will just work over 2.4ghz. I have multiple Switch consoles in the house and the fact it just works with whatever Switch is sitting inside the dock (without needing to mess with pairing) is very nice.

[@Charlotte-H]

As someone who owns both controllers and deeply regrets buying KK2 Pro before 8bitdo Ultimate Bluetooth, I can say that even if KK2 Pro has one or another advantages, the 8bitdo one is better in literally everything that actually matters: -MUCH lower input lag, this is a fact and is already proven through some videos on KZbin and posts on reddit, of couse I myself immediately noticed it when I switched from my Dualsense to KK2 Pro, it has an absurd VERY low polling rate. -Better shoulder and trigger buttons, seriously, A minority of people would prefer the KK2 Pro design choice. -Charging dock, that's it, I don't even have to explain how amazing the 8bitdo Ultimate dock is. -Tons of customizations options via software that are, in fact, SO MUCH better than KK2 Pro alternative, having to remember every single button combination is such a pain and honestly, such a non sense design. In my opinion it's not even a competition, I would recommend anyone the 8bitdo Ultimate.

[@EmptyHand49]

Which one would you say has quieter face buttons?

[@Charlotte-H]

@@EmptyHand49 8bitdo Ultimate Bluetooth has quieter face buttons, hands down... KK2 Pro has noisy mechanical buttons similar to the Xbox One controllers, I personally dislike it.

[@catsareevil]

Personally would take the kingkong over the 8bit. Waking it is instantly while on the 8bit it can be a pain. The buttons on the kingkong are also better placed

[@ray2op]

i just got a king kong pro 2 and aside from a lot of out of the box issues that usually happen, i was able to tear it down and fix it up. it's easily one of my favorite controllers of all. good for all uses.

[@FAKEAXIS]

Do you have a problem with the GYRO being so delayed and "smoothed"? I had to return it for that reason.

[@Pat315]

You had to tear it down and fix it? That sounds like a piece of shit product.

[@hsc894]

@@Pat315 At least it can be repaired instead of being just a one-and-done product like most controllers nowadays.

[@Charlotte-H]

As someone who owns both controllers and deeply regrets buying KK2 Pro before 8bitdo Ultimate Bluetooth, I can say that even if KK2 Pro has one or another advantages, the 8bitdo one is better in literally everything that actually matters: -MUCH lower input lag, this is a fact and is already proven through some videos on KZbin and posts on reddit, of couse I myself immediately noticed it when I switched from my Dualsense to KK2 Pro, it has an absurd VERY low polling rate. -Better shoulder and trigger buttons, seriously, A minority of people would prefer the KK2 Pro design choice. -Charging dock, that's it, I don't even have to explain how amazing the 8bitdo Ultimate dock is. -Tons of customizations options via software that are, in fact, SO MUCH better than KK2 Pro alternative, having to remember every single button combination is such a pain and honestly, such a non sense design. In my opinion it's not even a competition, I would recommend anyone the 8bitdo Ultimate.

[@caidelander2561]

I appreciate this, thank you

[@Charlotte-H]

@@caidelander2561 No problem, hope you enjoy your new controller! It really changed the way I play!

[@saidrahal]

I have KK2 Pro and cero input lag playing with a PC with Asus Rogstrix Z790-E with native bluetooth antenna and also with the dungle from Gulikit, both present excellent response time

[@Charlotte-H]

@@saidrahal You're surely not used to the lowest response times available, the huge input lag is there and is already proven on the internet through others videos and reddit posts, I myself immediately noticed this problem out of the box and also after updating it.

[@iceorangutan]

@@Charlotte-H was tempting to get kk2 pro cause of the look and ergonomics, but the input delay throw me off, still look better and feel better so got curious till saw this, nobody is being brutally honest, the conveniency is a big deal, thanks

[@smaggie]

OMG that white kingkong controller may be the most beautiful controller I've ever seen. Damn!

[@5zalfn]

Thank You so much for listening to your subcribers requests 👏🏻 I’ve been waiting for this review ever since all this new Gulikit controller came out!! Thank You Again for helping out our purchases decision. 🎉

[@The_NJG]

I bought an 8bitdo Ultimate, can't wait for it to get here. So tired of drifting controllers. Update: it came and it is glorious. Little smaller than I thought but it's near perfection.

[@brycedabbs596]

Me too, so excited for hall sensorsssss

[@The_NJG]

@@brycedabbs596 Magnetic stick sweep.

[@deanmoriarty6015]

was gonna get one but saw a lot of people saying it doesn’t work on their steam deck. disappointing.

[@Dracossaint]

@@deanmoriarty6015 actually valve said they added support for it through an update. "Steam Deck update adds support for 8BitDo Ultimate Controller" Also my 8bitdo + controller works fine for it with the dongle or bt. Keep in mind though I have yet to find a controller that wakes the steam deck from sleep (including the steam controller!)

[@deanmoriarty6015]

@@Dracossaint oh shit you’re right, i just looked it up. didn’t see anything about that. gonna order one now lmao, thanks

[@carstan62]

Got my King Kong yesterday and after about an hour of use I decided I had to return it. All of the material feels great, all of the buttons and sticks and everything feel great on their own, I had no problem getting any of the features to work on my Switch. The ONLY problem I have with it is completely a personal one. I've never thought of my hands as being particularly big or small, but the King Kong feels like it was ergonomically designed for people with BIG hands (I guess that would make sense, given its name). When I hold a controller, the most natural positioning is for my thumbs to use the face buttons and joysticks, my index finger to use the shoulders and triggers, my middle finger to be open and used as support for the controller, and my ring and pinkie finger to curl around the grip. Using this positioning it feels like I REALLY have to strain my hand to hit the R button specifically without shifting the whole controller every time. Alternatively, a slightly different positioning I tried had me forced to click the R button with the second joint of my finger rather than the tip or even the 3rd joint right before the tip. The reason this is a problem for me for the R button specifically is because the left analog stick is higher up and therefore closer to the L button, while the d-pad doesn't stick out as far from the controller. It's a shame, I really like everything else about the controller, but that one thing makes it just not comfortable, and that's the most important thing in my opinion.

[@iceorangutan]

It's the same size as Xbox lmao, that's a U problem

[@thenewbb]

One thing to note is that multiple people has had issues with build quality with the gulikit so for long term I think the 8bitdo is better (8bitdo also easier to pair)

[@lukebentley9993]

I just bought a new controller and had this video recommended. I was also trying to decide between the KingKong Pro 2 and the Ultimate. It was a tough call because they were both really, really good in their own ways. But yes, the buttons on the back and that really nice charging stand made me pull the trigger (pun intended) on the Ultimate. I think the KingKong Pro 2 would have been more comfortable for me, but if the Xbox controller is my 9.5, the Switch Pro is a 9.0, and this might be an 8.9. It's a bit heavier than the Switch Pro. Also, I love how removing the Ultimate from the stand will turn it on, and then it turns off when put back onto the stand. Just really nice little features. Using triggers on the Switch is a bit weird since most of the time it's expecting a button, so I might remap the back buttons to the triggers maybe. Really the biggest disappointment for the Ultimate for me is on the PC side: it only allows you to remap the buttons to another button on the controller rather than a full keyboard remapping. I have a key I otherwise don't use just for push-to-talk in Discord. Having a back button mapped to that would be really, really nice.

[@qwormuli77]

You can remap that in most emulators or Steam separately. It's not as ideal, as it needs one extra step, but it's easily doable. And if all else fails, almost any mapping software (AutoHotkey etc.) can answer that need.

[@ArnoldSmithFergusson]

I wonder why majority of popular youtuber didn't test the gamepad longetivity & in depth? If you watched smaller reviewer in youtube, they're honestly test the gamepad deeper than this video. For example; Gulikit KK2 Pro had serious problem with bluetooth lag & stucked button. Both of the problem could be solved by buying 2.4ghz dongle & replacement switch button. I experienced it with just 2 months using it casually (avrg 2 hour gaming daily) . Both of the controller are anti drift ( because using Gulikit analog halls effect) but, how about the button switch quality? Hows about the guarantee? Hows about the repairability? How easy to change the button or battery?

[@Cuissedemouche]

I personally never felt that much a difference between the Switch HD Rumble and an my old X360 controller rumble. I never felt anything special. The only controller that make me feel different is the Xbox One controller while trying it on a Forza game, the rumble in the triggers felt great.

[@doh4828]

That’s because too few games actually use it as a feature, in stead opting for the traditional rumble approach.

[@Stuke51]

Same. Never have once been able to distinguish HD Rumble from normal rumble motors.

[@linuxpirate]

The metal joystick rings on the Gulikit King Kong Pro 2 are what sold it to me over the 8Bitdo ultimate. That plus the joystick grinding I experienced in the first week on the ultimate ultimately led to me returning it. Gulikit does make a 2.4ghz wireless adapter dongle as well.

[@manabjaman6205]

But the joystick are the same with gulikit. Gulikit are the one who supply it to 8bitdo. Lol

[@linuxpirate]

@@manabjaman6205 the sensors sure, but plastic on plastic was still a choice by 8bitdo. No grinding here on my King Kong 2.

[@slayertwix5491]

I have both and you are absolutely right, the sticks on the KKP2 are smoother, they feel really nice but, the Ultimate is not bad neither and the 2.4G connection, the back buttons and the charging dock made me prefer that controller over the KKP2 (not to mention I like fighting games and the D-pad on the 8bitdo is really great for that)

[@linuxpirate]

​@@slayertwix5491 The charging/dock experience was seamless and really nice. The Gulikit dongle negates the 2.4Ghz advantage but it is an additional purchase, I'll give 8Bitdo that. I also prefer xbox controller's feel in the hand so it was going to be an uphill battle regardless for 8Bitdo but they're both great choices. I hope they both iterate with hall sensor controllers.

[@manabjaman6205]

@@linuxpirate no grinding on KK2? Huh?

[@daejuanobrien1399]

For those worrying about sticky buttons on the kk pro, they sell replacements for them and switches. No trigger or joystick issues.

[@realislit8064]

You can also just pull the sides of the switches It won't feel the same but it fixes the sticky problem

[@XxJGVxX]

After a few months my GK KK2P's trigger paint started to fade/wear off, I removed the paint with isopropyl alcohol and a cloth rag, awesome controller anyways still love it and use it on my Switch and PC.

[@mipad4491]

@@realislit8064 can you elaborate more, how?

[@realislit8064]

@@mipad4491 its hard to explain in text but there should be videos here in youtube that shows how it is done

[@mipad4491]

@@realislit8064 do you mean the keycaps? Or the switches itself?

[@jeetkaur7906]

It has been 5 years and I can't believe nintendo has not fixed the joy con drift! 😢

[@flyingplantwhale545]

They’re Nintendo. They can’t admit mistakes. They’re perfect in every way, whether you like it or not lol.

[@DatAtDawn]

I believe the people who made the king kong controller are working on a joycon style controller if I'm not mistaken

[@anthonysilver2983]

And they never will since it's a business decision. The technology for no drift controllers has always been there if they really wanted to. These companies just want their controllers to be disposable after the warranty period so people would purchase them again.

[@Vic_714]

nintendo doing everything but fixing their major issues like joy con drift, and online lag.

[@Stuke51]

@@anthonysilver2983 same thing that apple does with their charger cables.

[@robertversteegh6871]

I have both of these and have used them pretty extensively. I have more experience with the Gulikit because I've had it for much longer but I've got probably 100 hours on the 8bitdo. Just wanted to touch on one thing because I think Kevin covered pretty much everything else and that is the "wake from sleep" functions both controllers have. The 8bitdo has some serious issues with waking the console from sleep for me. It almost never works and it really pisses me off, and entire forum threads full of people have the same problem. The Gulikit works every time although it took awhile to remember to turn it on or put it in the right input at the top (I use it on my PC sometimes). Also, and this might just be a fault on my unit, but the 8bitdo often displays a false battery reading to my Switch. When I've left it on charge overnight it will show as being mostly empty from the night before and sometimes takes awhile to display the correct charge. Doesn't actually interfere with operation but is a little annoying.

[@007alztruli]

Do you use any of them for Smash Ultimate?

[@robertversteegh6871]

@@007alztruli I use a Hori Real Arcade Pro V for Smash, though if you're in the market for a fight stick, I don't recommend it as the stick itself is digital and makes spacing quite hard. As for these two controllers, I'm not sure if one is favourable over the other for a game like smash as they're both quite similar. I'm inclined to say the Gulikit simply because I like the very clicky, tactile BAXY buttons, but I think the 8BitDo has better shoulders and when a few frames per second are the difference between a successful block of getting hit that might make a difference.

[@anouaressanoussi]

@@robertversteegh6871 What about fps games? I mostly play Halo

[@robertversteegh6871]

@@anouaressanoussi I never use a controller for FPS, and if you're playing competitively you shouldn't either. Also, if you're playing on Xbox, neither of these controllers support that platform.

[@ChrisM-vz4pe]

For me it’s the opposite and every time I press the middle button of my 8bitdo controller, it turns on my switch right away. Also for the battery life that show on the screen of my switch, it’s very accurate from my experience of use.

[@RogueRen]

I want an 8Bitdo Pro Ultimate with the symmetrical stick layout like the Pro 2 has (which are my current go-to controller for everything, I LOVE that thing. Even got some button dome stickers to have one with Playstation symbols for PS2 emulation).

[@Jeno_Sinatra]

Me too tbh.

[@maybebutwhatever]

Got both of these. Both are amazing but i prefer to use gulikit most of the time. Face buttons on gulikit just so freaking satisfying to use.

[@pakhrom]

Yeah, Gulikit uses custom-made mechanical buttons for their gamepad

[@mikikiki4524]

why do you have a sock on your head?

[@Orbitaldeath]

forgot to mention that the king kong has 10 minute of macro you can set. so basically if you want to farm a spot in a game over and over while watching a movie or playing something else you are able to do so. that alone makes it well worth getting imo.

[@XelaShade]

Sounds like a mobile game lmao

[@persechini]

I'm completely alienated from the gulikit praise. Both my controllers have noticeable input lag on switch and on pc both via bluetooth and gulikit's own 2.4Ghz dongle, one controller even got bricked when I tried to update the firmware hoping that would help. I can't jump from edges on platformers as I always miss the jumps due to the delay. on 1st party and 8bitdo controller, perfect every time. The 8bitdo is one of those almost perfect controllers, and my current favorite for playing on PC and switch

[@j_a_a]

I don't even think the gilikit "2.4ghz" dongle is 2.4 in the way most people refer to it. It says "EDR 2.4" which doesn't really mean much. Bluetooth is 2.4ghz and Extended Data Rate (EDR) is a protocol of Bluetooth, so I think gilikit is deceptively marketing their Bluetooth dongle so people believe it's a proprietary 2.4 dongle, but it's still just using Bluetooth leading to much more latency than an actual proprietary 2.4ghz solution like the dongle included with the 8bitdo ultimates

[@kohenlau]

I'm getting the 8bitdo controller for Christmas!

[@alexwells6091]

Just recently got an OLED again… I wanted an NIntendo Switch Pro Controller, but they are sold out on every website I visited… went ahead and got the 8Bitdo Ultimate coming in tomorrow. Wanted a white one, but went with a black version since my OLED is white, but my headset is black so figured get matching black accessories haha.

[@xKnightGuy]

The GCHT GAMING Controller for the Switch is also a great alternative to the more expensive ones. $24.99 vs the premium prices. They work on Android devices too. I have 3 of them and the version with the buttons on the back of the controller. They are used often enough and I've never had any drift issues with them. The controllers have NFC AND can wake up your Switch. Being able to wake up the Switch was a huge selling point for me.

[@jaystapes3086]

the Guilikit King Kong is great! But you just can't go wrong with 8BitDo's Ultimate...imo. I used both and only returned one. The King Kong controller was alright, but as a Godzilla fan, I had to go with 8BitDo lol

[@YunaniXVI]

Does 8bitdo have analog triggers for racing games?

[@bland9876]

Because of the fact that sticks have to be wiggled back and forth they can eventually become loose and that will lead to drift regardless of hall effect sensors were not. The only way to truly eliminate drift is to put trackpads on the controller. The only thing that happens to them is that over time the coating on the top starts to wear out making them smoother.

[@Dracossaint]

That's fair but honestly you could replace that part more easily than you could the actual sensor.

[@AndehX]

After using the KingKong Pro controller, I have to say, im not too fond of the sticks. Not because of the hall effect technology though, that's perfectly fine, but the sticks themselves seem too sensitive. For example, trying to run straight forward in a first person shooter is almost impossible, as any slight movement of the stick on the X axis, causes you to turn ever so slightly. I feel this controller would have benefitted MASSIVELY from an octagonal gate, similar to the gamecube controller.

[@jacksoneee6759]

Try turning down the joystick sens with the settings button. Just hold it and press down on the stick until you feel only one vibration if you want 50% lower sensitivity. I had the same problem with it. But after some getting used to i feel so much more comfortable with it than any other controller

[@Jihadbearzwithgunz]

Love my 8bitdo controllers own the sn30 pro the pro 2 and now the ultimate. The hall effects sensors inside this definitely made it a easy purchase with my joycons I can fix it but for the sn30 pro and pro 2 may find issues like with my ps5 controllers (really need a good hot air station to make analog stick swaps easier)

[@demonicbrawler3792]

Thank you I actually already own a King Kong Pro 2 Controller it is a great Controller however I game a lot and even though the sticks don't drift which is my biggest concern and everything else does still work after the last 10 months or so it just has that kind of worn out feeling to it like here lately while playing my games I have had to occasionally double press the A button and way to often have i had to use a little more force then usual with the D pad and now with all the good games coming out soon I need a new Controller wasn't sure if I was gonna get another king Kong or try out 8bitdo's Ultimate but thanks to this video I will be picking up the Ultimate this time around appreciate it! 👍

[@flyingplantwhale545]

Got me the GuiliKit controller, and it’s just perfect, in all the ways Pro controller is not. Also doubles down as an excellent PC controller, Since it has analog triggers (something Nintendo didn’t think mattered in 2017 lol)

[@dan122go2]

Careful when changing the buttons on King Kong. I put the A button where it would be on a Xbox controller and the button is slanted. Feels really uncomfortable and very hard to get back out

[@ItsFreakinJesus]

The Gulikit triggers use hall effect mechanics similar to the analog sticks, which is why they feel the way they do.

[@massimerbouche5804]

Also the king kong pro 2 can wake the switch from sleep with the home button

[@baldybald100]

This is one of the main things I wanted to know from the comparison! Thank you :)

[@xard64]

I got the 8Bitdo ultimate controller while the sticks are really good (a straight 10/10) the controller besides the sticks is a mixed bag. I personally find the dpad below average: it's very mushy and picks up unintentional directions when switching between axis sides (both horizontal and vertical). Also the buttons are very soft and mushy and have this not-so-great texture in them due to the tiny gaps in the button label injection process. The paddle/grip buttons are really good though. For me the software side is a disaster: by default the rumble is not tolerable and changing it requires pretty much the software. Also the paddle/grip buttons are not assigned and cannot be assigned without the software. Mac users get firmware updates but no software for binding the buttons. Linux/Steam Deck (8BitDo advertises the deck as supported) users get only the out of the box xinput pad; no custmization or firmware updates.

[@R3N4TU5]

i have the king kong 2 and my friend got the ultimate, and told me to try it, and we both had the same complain, the face buttons are to loose and mushy, besides that everything was great but the king kong gives the feeling of more of a premium controller, the only thing missing is de dock and back buttons.

[@dmaskell92]

I was torn, the KingKong Pro 2 seems like the perfect controller and not only has hall effect analogs but also triggers (not many reviewers mention this). The chrome paint isn't the best on the triggers and I've seen them worn and gross looking. The 8bitdo uses pressure pads in the triggers, but also has rear buttons and the dock. The software is pretty cool and does more also. I decided to go with the 8bitdo because it seems like more of a premium. I just hope the pressure pads on the triggers don't wear out.

[@BadEnd98]

I have experience with 8bitdo controllers, they still using shtty analog cap that will wear out in no time

[@dmaskell92]

@@BadEnd98 The cap isn't the issue, it's the internal sensor. Also the only 8bitdo controller with hall effect analogs is the Bluetooth Ultimate. So unless you have experience with that specific controller you don't know anything.

[@BadEnd98]

@@dmaskell92 they definitely have problem with quality control in not just that analog cap material, like the silver paint on Gulikit one it wears out and ugly but not a big deal, but also the shoulder buttons that mine became loosely too. So I hope they improved on this one, but I tested the one with hall sensor there (stores/resellers in my country have them, because we're very very close to China, and both Gulikit and 8bitdo their prices are less than $50 instead of $70), and I can tell they're still using the same material on that analog so I didn't buy it.

[@dmaskell92]

​@@BadEnd98 Nobody cares about the rubber on the analog, that's not what causes drift. The 8bitdo Ultimate 2.4ghz version doesn't have hall effect analogs and has a reduced price of about $50. The main cause is that every controller on the markets uses graphite potentiometers for the analog. The 8bitdo ultimate BT version uses magnetic sensors that can't drift. They use the same technology Dreamcast used 20 years ago. I still own a Dreamcast with perfectly working controllers and they will never drift.

[@BadEnd98]

@@dmaskell92 I'm talking about the nit-pick when you compare both controller, both have some issues like I said

[@meatdiscrete9738]

I absolutely adore my 8bitdo ultimate I use it way more than my official pro controller

[@keitho9066]

Bought an ultimate about a month ago. Love it! Feels and looks great!

[@007alztruli]

What games do you use it on?

[@keitho9066]

@@007alztruli on pc I’ve played the new COD and cyberpunk so far with no issue. On switch, mostly indie games but everything has worked flawlessly. I do play wired on pc

[@007alztruli]

@@keitho9066 Ok thanks. I've been thinking of getting it on my Switch, mostly to play Smash but I'm not sure if it will be adequate for that...

[@aventurussy]

what about now, still working well?

[@kalebwaguespack3302]

I got the 8bitdo ultimate, and ngl, not the biggest fan. Overall, it's a fine controller except, for me, the one part that I just couldn't get past: the feel in my hands. First, not the biggest fan of the xbox style controller. I grew up mostly using playstation and gamecube controllers so I really like my grips being more out from the controller where I can wrap my hands around them instead of being closer to the back of the controller. I also really don't like grippy textures. I kinda got used to it until I picked up my sn30 pro+ again, and now I don't want to go back. Plus I found that the grippy texture on the white controller really picked up every tiny piece of whatever from my hands so it would get kinda dirty pretty quick. I found that, when I was first using the controller, the joysticks felt a little loose for my taste. All of this, for the most part, were things that I just kinda got used to. It's still a good controller, and having a dock is very nice. But, like, I'm back at my parents house for easter, and I grabbed my sn30 pro+ instead of my ultimate.

[@JAYJAYBEBE]

I like the freedom of having one hand "here" and one hand "there" with the joycons. Controllers like this force your hands together on one device, which I can't go back to after the joycons. A little 70% alcohol on a q-tip under the joystick flap keeps the drift at bay.

[@james_nolan]

My Switch Pro Controller from 2017 has drift. I can't decide between these two controllers! I wish the official controller would just have Hall Effect sticks and call it a day.

[@charliecruz1580]

The only issue I had with the kingkong 2 was that the B button was sticking. Returned 2 times before I got one that didn’t have a sticky button. That’s my bad luck tho 😢 I really want to try the ultimate tho 👍🏼

[@ToeCutter0]

My first KK Pro had a sticky button, but thankfully it went away after a few mins of playing on Switch. I’ve had it a while and it’s easily the best controller I’ve ever used. It’s thick, but not heavy. It just feels great in my hands. I like it so much I bought a second one, but got the white one. The white one is sick. They come with a slick case that dude forgot to mention in the video. I also have 2 other 8BitDo controllers, but don’t use them know that I have the white King Kong. I’ll try an 8BitDo Ultimate, the app control looks slick, but I really don’t customize stuff that much? The charger is damn cool too. Even so, I’m good for now. 👍

[@Celcey24]

That's not your bad luck, that's KingKong's poor quality control.

[@qhaosplays]

Where is the best place to buy one from?

[@cuma666]

@@ToeCutter0 do you like the white one's look more?

[@Diane_Sydämenlyönti]

I bought three Wireless Power A and all got Drift eventually.

[@alinskateful]

I think none of them can compete with Mobapad Chitu, that controller has everything the nintendo pro controller has and much more. By far the best and complete nintendo controller

[@angeles2425]

Kingkong 2 pro also has hall sensing in the triggers.

[@nsoutlawball1941]

Loving the 8bitdo Ultimate Bluetooth controller. One thing though.. It lacks the silicon rings that protect the thumb sticks from grinding away at the face opening, I'm shaving material off playing rocket league.

[@ExploreImagineDefineCreate]

I've just bought myself an 8bitdo Ultimate as well and I've been trying it out on rocket league. Find the long travel distance on the triggers to be incredibly hard to get used to. Using the app I messed around with adjusting the sensitivity/range of the triggers but it's still not perfect. Any tips? Please and thank you.

[@Raidar29]

does the stick still feel good tho?

[@nsoutlawball1941]

Sticks feel really REALLY good.. Also this probably isn't worth much, but I've custom installed my own rings which I bought (elite series 2 rings ) on amazon. I don't expect everyone to do that though. I'll note that the bottom paddles have a little piece inside that sticks out and acts as a quasi spring, which broke... it's not a break that stops the paddle from working, and I was able to fix it very easily but by filling that hole with hot glue and it feels and functions 100% now not a big deal but full disclosure. Quite frankly almost any controller you purchase nowadays is likely to suffer some defect so it's good to be able to fix your own stuff lol

[@nsoutlawball1941]

Also, it's very easy to take this controller apart, it's neat inside unlike xbox controllers which feel like they were designed as a puzzle @@Raidar29

[@LeetPanda]

My 8bitdo ultimate playing crackling symphony after only 2 weeks of usage

[@kamm3021]

Fun fact: 8bitdo is using joystick from Gulikit, both are the same

[@Aquatix2781]

I really do enjoy the experience of the 8bitdo Ultimate controller, but one major issue that ruins the gameplay is when the motion controls become unstable when connecting Bluetooth headphones. Truly the only reason I got this controller is too replace my broken PowerA controller but seems to it struggles in that regard. So playing tabletop mode with connected Bluetooth headphones truly did disappoint me. Even connecting an Aux Cable doesn't entirely fix the issue. Hope 8bitdo can preform an Update to resolve this issue.

[@JoJo-oc8zf]

I've only had drift on my og joycons from 2018 but it's cool there's companies trying to fix the stick technology to stop it

[@belskimannie7924]

Awesome review and comparison! Thank you 👏

[@orimu836]

Im enjoying my KK2 pro a lot. I've been using it for my PC for over a year now. And 3 days ago, I just bought a Switch OLED and has been using it for Docked Mode. I prefer the aesthetics of KK2 Pro more than the 8bitdo, that charging dock for the 8bitdo was very tempting tho.

[@kevoqq]

The King Kong Pro 2 is my daily main controller for Rocket League and for Nintendo Switch games. Charging is not a issue to me because since I play mostly on pc I always have it plugged in for less input response and then when I want to play switch, I just switch the mode so I can play wirelessly on the switch. Great controller for who ever wants a good controller for competitive without having to worry about drift.

[@FAKEAXIS]

Do you have a problem with the GYRO being so delayed and "smoothed"?

[@kevoqq]

@@FAKEAXIS I don't think I ran into any problems with my motion. Cause I do SMO trick jumps using motion cap throw without a problem. pretty accurate.

[@redhawk44109]

@@FAKEAXIS just update the latest firmware and it'll eliminate the gyro delay

[@FlamingDragon4]

There's people saying they're getting a sticky B after some use, have you experienced that? I've been thinking of getting the King Kong Pro 2 myself but if buttons start to stick then perhaps 8bitdo might be the better choice.

[@kevoqq]

@@FlamingDragon4 No I haven't run into that. It's still in great condition haven't had a problem at all. Could be that since I lubed my buttons it made them better. but idk.

[@CrimsonStrider]

The 8bitdo still has Snapback, which is a real issue in Smash. Gulikit seems to have no Snapback post firmware update. Both have some issues when attempting to do Smash attacks. The analog triggers make jumping hard if you use triggers to jump. Gulikit still has some latency issues in Smash. 8bitdo seems fine. Gulikit feels better in Rise. Sticks feel nicer and the anti friction feels really nice. 8bitdo feels more comfortable in hand for Smash, feels like a ProC. Gulikit buttons feel a little less nice. I don't mind 8bitdo Vibration. App is nicer too. Back buttons idk if I like, wish they protruded a little more. Both seem to affect gyro aiming when rumble is active.

[@007alztruli]

I play Smash a lot and one of my pro controllers has started to drift and I have been thinking of getting the 8bitdo Ultimate as a replacement. Would you recommend it?

[@CrimsonStrider]

@@007alztruli It depends on how you play. If you're very casual, and don't use ZL to jump, it should be fine. And it's fine for other games. If you're more serious about Smash and use ZL to short hop, this controller may frustrate you. Especially if you're trying to avoid Snapback. I'm in the process of waiting for a GC adapter to try my old GC controller and confirm the dash and Smash attack issue I mentioned. I'm also contemplating buying another pro controller and learning to mod it. Or I'll try to mod my GC controller, but I might prefer the digital ZL button of a pro controller since analog doesn't work on Switch. As mentioned, I have an incredible amount of inconsistencies with Smash attacks and Dashing. Specifically Smash attacks. With ZL (and ZR) is on a hinge and its analog. There's a slight deadzone. I have a light finger and I cannot consistently short hop. I either don't jump and get punished for stupid stuff that should be an aerial, or I full hop. Because of the hinge, I think finger placement also changes how a light touch is read. With the ultimate software, you can adjust the trigger sensor. However, with switch, you can only adjust the beginning distance. You can make it so that it requires a deeper press to activate the button. This helps make short hopping more consistent, but it makes it much easier to miss a jump completely if you have a lighter touch. If you could change the range where the button deactivates, this controller would be really cool and you could have a short hop button. But I think you can only do that on PC.

[@Celcey24]

The problem with the KingKong is their quality control is garbage. You might get one that works fine, or you might get one with sticky buttons or some other such problem. I was seriously considering getting one but after reading reviews, I'm simply not willing to spend $70 on a controller that might arrive broken.

[@NexZu-]

Honestly hope trigger stops are made for the 8bitdo ultimate, having analog on switch is worthless and outside of it can be worse depending on the game. But the overall features of the controller are really good.

[@Dracossaint]

You can adjust it so that they are hair triggers by software. You just turn the range all the way down.

[@NexZu-]

@@Dracossaint thats software, in terms of feel its not the same.

[@BooCatandBedroomCow]

I use the King Kong on PC games. I leave it as a Nintendo Switch so that motion controls work. Then I bought the Xbox buttons and swapped them out so that it is labeled properly. Then I use my 8bitdo Ultimate controller on my Switch. Seems to work for me.

[@DyceFreak]

0:14 "New control stick sensory type" Y2K Sega Dreamcast: Am I a joke to you?

[@LuigiFan1305]

Gulikit is more comfortable for my hands. 8bit is a big wider to hold

[@NoypiRecap11]

I went with gulikit kingkong 2 pro, it's only 37 USD here my country 8bitdo is way expensive.... Good video by the way ☺️

[@iamlittylee]

8bitdo ultimate is 🔥🔥🔥

[@FoldingScreenMonkey]

If I get either of these I'm primarily gonna be using it for PC, and I actually used to have an xbs controller that I got rid of cuz there were some things I really didn't like (shoulder buttons and face buttons in particular), so I'll probably go with 8bitdo

[@harrytsang1501]

I have used every iteration of Xbox controllers since 360 and now the Gulikit. The kingKong pro 2 has the newest Xbox controller grip, hand feel and layouts, but noticably better ABXY and smoother triggers. The shoulder buttons are on par with the series x/s iteration which is an improvement from the original Xbox one controller. If you want to use it on a PC wirelessly, it's still a good contender. It depends on which part of the Xbox controller you didn't like, the shape or the button feels

[@alexisolivares4274]

Same here, I used Xbox controllers since 360 ones, I never have complains until now, my series control drifted in the left analogue, I didn't know about drifting until now, it's sucks, my old one controller for 3 years never got a problem, series have 1,5 years and a problem... Quality is not the same, so I'm comsidering to boy one of these but I don't know which one, I thing kk 2 is more similar to xb.

[@yanmalo28]

Gulikit is the GOAT. I use it on switch and pc and it’s hella smooth and precise. Sticks give feedback with the slightest movement which is useful for fps games.

[@guiltygem2112]

0:23 "This is however not the first controller to offer this that distinction actually belongs to the King Kong pro 2" Dreamcast controller with hall effect joysticks: am I a joke to you?

[@homebrewGT2]

Nobody cares about hd rumble lol or the NFC, the gyro is more important that actually affects gameplay

[@TheRealJohnMadden]

Best controller I think I’ve ever used aside from premium custom controllers like the Scuf, but everything about it is absolutely a step UP from the Switch Pro by Nintendo.

[@dylanboesmans1579]

Which one of the 2?

[@scottpolston6137]

Yep I'm gonna get the Red 8bitdo ultimate next pay day I can't wait I also got Gulikit joycon sticks in both my switch v1 and switch oled it's been fun my oled is pretty heavily modded

[@johnsducks9816]

For me, if I am spending anything more than $30 on a controller, it is mostly for use with Mt PC not my switch, that being said the kingkong is the clear choice for me, as it comes with extra buttons to switch to an xbox button layout, and it supports xinput over bluetooth while the ultimate only supports xinput over usb which is super lame.

[@TheDiscussor]

What sets me off from the 8bit do Ultimate is I’ve heard it’s pretty bad motion controls wise and I love splatoon 3 so I’d rather have a controller that I can use reliably for everything

[@Colby_Cheese]

This feels slightly biased towards 8BitDo. The ergonomics of the KingKong 2 Pro are better for longer play sessions.

[@miguellozano308]

I still have a release date Switch, and a SmashBros Switch controller as well as the original joycons. Still no drift. So,, 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@paidn4ull]

Hey bud, nice video! Just a heads up, the magnetic Hall effect sensors in the analog sticks are not new technology, you kept mention new stick technology, it’s actually been around for many years, first made its appearance in the Sega Dreamcast controller, though we all know how well that system went over, so no surprise there that most people don’t know that about their controllers, and not trying to be an internet cop, coming in here just to give you a hard time, just figured you’d like to have the accurate information on those for future videos, which I’m looking forward too, thanks!

[@shabberplasm32]

I've never had drift on any pro controller, but these look dope

[@baldino9165]

5:48 you forgot wake-from-sleep function which is waaaay more important than those 3 you mentioned lol

[@felipev1996]

Hey Kevin (or anyone who can answer me), I have the fisrt kingkong pro (NS09) and I wanted to know if you would recommend buying the pro 2, my main issue with the first one is that I have input lag while playing smash, only in that game I have notice this been really bad for competitive-like gameplay

[@wangtang32000]

i like your BoFV art you had in your background :)

[@sigurdtheblue]

6:37 wow, random Breath of Fire Dragon Quarter art!

[@dio7339]

Still undecided If I want to just play Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kindom comfortably Which one should I go for? Or should I just get the Switch Pro controller?

[@willrod4387]

Dude, definitely in your exact position right now. I am literally on the fence about whether to get the 8BitDo Ultimate or the KingKing 2 Pro as an alternate. Or just get the OEM Nintendo Switch Pro.

[@peentz]

@@willrod4387 What did u go with? Debating between the ultimate and the king kong

[@albertogiavani75]

The 8BitDo is literally perfect for me 11/10

[@1331bubba]

Im buying the ultimate. But that All white KK2 is 🔥🔥🔥

[@mooncloud6563]

David dough controllers freaking amazing and I love it!

[@krogsether]

I overall enjoy the feel of the buttons and sticks on my 8bitdo Ultimate controller. However, I find the shape and texture of the controller slippery, in a way where gripping the controller makes it feel like it's slipping upwards, out of my hands - like a piece of soap. It's not a huge issue, but compared to, say, an Xbox controller, it doesn't sit very well in my meduim sized hands..

[@r1pperduck]

The gulikit would be perfect IF it worked as advertised. The firmware updates as of yet, have not fixed the autopilot inconsistency, but the BIGGEST drawback by far, the input lag. The lag is so bad, smash ultimate is unplayable. I also tried games on my pc, but its still noticeable, the xbox controller is much better for pc, and since the pro switch controller is slightly faster than a wired gamecube controller, thats your best option for switch.

[@georlybibas5846]

It is mentioned in the video that there is a separate 2.4 GHz USB dongle you can purchase if you don't want to deal with the Bluetooth latency.

[@persechini]

I'm glad I'm not crazy, I feel the input lag is so pronounced it should straight up be a not recommended controller. Fighters, racers, platformers, most action games, they are all impossible to enjoy with the kingkong pro 2. I also got the dongle and it's the same.

[@g.o.9513]

@@persechini Perhaps the 8bit is better?

[@MD-gx4bw]

First controller to has hall effect joysticks was the Sega dreamcast. We have been putting up with planned obsolescence for 30 years

[@XelaShade]

For me being able to drop the controller on the dock and forget about it is just very convenient, I don't ever want to deal with wired stuff if I don't have to and that sometimes I forget to charge my controller, this is very elegant solution that I think both 8BitDo and also Playstation 5 nailed with their design. Also I use back buttons a lot on Steam games and Remaping buttons for smash attacks on Switch! So 8BitDo made way more sense for me to buy, Plus the Dpad on 8bitdo's are WAYYY better than gulikit since they been around way longer and know how to make amazing SNES-feel dpads. Slight Edit: Since 8bitDo ALSO has Analogue Triggers with long presses, it's ideal for Arcade Racers like Forza Horizon, I feel like Gulikit was made for FPS cuz of shorter hair triggers. Update: I got the controller now and it's amazing, the only complaint I have is that it's good for medium and small hands but not if you have big hands like me.. It's not that small compared to pro controller tho pro controller is small for me as well... it's just me problem, I already got used to it tbh with weird grip I developed

[@catsareevil]

Got the kingkong pro 2 but the buttons get squeaky after time

[@JeremyMallek]

also, you can remap a controllers button layout in the switch's settings so the fact that the gulikit controller can't change the layout doesn't really matter, although it is a little annoying

[@NightFoxZero]

Love your videos but the one minor nitpick I have is that Gullikit didn't invent making game controllers with HE sensors. Most major video game company controllers used them back in the which is why you can still find really old controllers that work with little to no issue even 20 years later. The change to potentiometers really was like a "planned obsolescence" kind of move

[@Dracossaint]

He did mention that in his initial video with the 8-bit do ultimate controller. I'm wondering why he's singing a different tune now

[@NightFoxZero]

@@Dracossaint right? A bit weird like Gullikit for sure is at the forefront behind the movement of bringing it back but yeah just a slightly weird but simplified intro

[@solonepeon5805]

I'll go with the 8 bitdo one & with the NFC reader well I was smart to keep the 3DS NFC reader around so yeah 😂!

[@sashinchandra2071]

I am new to switch. Bought coz of my daughter. I got fifa 23. Which controller is good for fifa 23. Thanks.

[@Snaxolotl71]

When GuliKit makes a verison of the KingKong 2 with back paddles ill be buying it immediately

[@JoeyPatSomthn]

Can you please remake you "Best way to play the nintendo switch" where you compared different case grips and joycons like the splitpad, binbok, etc. Thank you and Merry Christmas

[@miriyo3048]

Hey Kevin, is the 8bitdo Controller more like the xbox controller than the switch pro controller? Im playing Rocket League on PC and the Switch Controller is not it. The Analogue Sticks are too sensitive to be able to do precise movements.

[@jmezeus]

Really great review by my fav KZbin video game reviewer. Both controllers look great hard decision. 🎮🎧👍🏼

[@ctran1955]

I’m super disappointed that the KingKong has no removable battery from what I can tell? It’s just rechargeable? :( considering their whole goal with the controller is for it to last a long time, it boggles my midn they don’t have a removable battery. I know people complain Xbox controllers use actual batteries, but ever since I got rechargeable ones, absolute game changer and I’m obsessed. The battery in the controller will eventually die :/

[@MisterMagikarp]

What if I told you my Pro Controllers NEVER drifted. 😬

[@The_NJG]

Lucky. Ironically enough, my joycons have never drifted.

[@InnerRise]

Same. None of my controllers have never drifted. I take care of mine.

[@muchgrammar5743]

Yeah, I’ve had a pro controller that I’ve had for over 3 years and I play a lot of heavy input games. Never have had any issues with the sticks.

[@sabermajora408]

@@The_NJG same

[@Psmgamer]

I have a Pro controller but rarely use it and doesn't drift.

[@basicoptimalmouse]

Goota go with the 8BitDo. I'm so used to back buttons/paddles that I would never buy a controller without them again.

[@julienmelnick]

I absolutely love the 8bitdo ultimate controller