The Most Powerful Gods in the MCU | MCU Power Scaling

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The Asgardians, or the Æsir, are the inhabitants of Asgard on which the gods of Norse mythology are based. They are a race of extraterrestrials similar in appearance to humans, possessing a highly advanced form of technology resembling magic, which their civilization is built on. They were ruled by Odin and for millennia had a reputation as peacekeepers within the Nine Realms.
The Asgardians are a brave and a powerful warrior race whose passion for adventure is their religion, and their reputation as one of the mightiest races in the universe has earned them the respect and fear from other races. Their interactions humans over 1,000 years ago had a strong influence on Scandinavian culture, with the Asgardians becoming the template for the region's Norse mythology.
The population of the Asgardians is now considerably lower than it once was, having been mostly wiped out following the aftermath of Ragnarök, the Attack on the Statesman, and the Snap. However, the Snap victims were revived by Hulk with the Infinity Stones in 2023.
0:38 Honorable Mentions
3:10 Valkyrie
3:56 Sylvie
4:52 Kurse
5:42 Fenris
6:34 Laufey
8:02 Loki
9:54 Thor
11:35 Hela
12:42 Surtur
13:44 Odin

[@KeyIssues]

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[@comicscode5150]

can you do the kick ass comics

[@KeyIssues]

Maybe one day

[@Demonoicgamer666]

I feel Hela should be number 2 surter isn’t a Asguardian

[@wj3186]

Asgardians, yes, but none are "Norse" nor are they "gods;" only the people of Midgard have these misconceptions because their understanding of the Universe is underdeveloped.

[@patrickgronemeyer3375]

lost me at dog beating the hulk

[@mrjuice4070]

We need a movie showing odins past how he defeated surtur and hela

[@KeyIssues]

100% but it’ll never happen

[@hodg1gaw]

Please and thank you 😭

[@national7846]

Yeh tru but we will never get it

[@felixlara2945]

@@KeyIssuesDisney does love money tho and they can have all of mine if they make that movie

[@gibio396]

@@felixlara2945 problem is Disney is to ignorant to actually know what fans want

[@bodaciouschad]

Old Loki. Great and mighty wizard. *Should not be allowed to dress himself.*

[@KeyIssues]

The drip is immaculate

[@bodaciouschad]

@@KeyIssues He looks like he is wearing ill-fitted pajamas. I'm just saying that fashion sense shouldn't be on his long list of powers.

[@KeyIssues]

@@bodaciouschad agree to disagree

[@agentemerald4563]

we complained about plastic looking, not comic accurate costumes so they showed us what we were asking for.

[@Kaijutopia]

Yes, Laufey! He is definitely one of the most underrated MCU characters. One blink and you'll miss one helluva good feat is during the Asgard vs. Frost Giant battle. Laufey used the Casket of Ancient Winters to freeze his Asgardian attackers and then--and this is the impressive part--shattered them with his bare hands. This might seem like it's nothing but when you realize the Asgardians' bodies were merely encased in ice, as opposed to being completely turned to ice, you realize Laufey has the raw power to make Asgardians explode. He's that strong! Excellent video and analysis as always, Key Issues! You guys are easily one of my favorite channels. Love the content you guys produce!

[@KeyIssues]

Thank you 😊

[@dfailsthemost]

Thor is always in a weird place of being simultaneously ridiculously powerful but constantly subject to moment to moment nerfing. It's kinda just part of his character now.

[@floppajohn.371]

I think prime Odin Vs Thanos (with infinity stones) could be a really good fight that I would love to see in the MCU

[@nanyombiteddy8837]

It would be a good fight but thanos stomps

[@ale-jandra8735]

@@nanyombiteddy8837 Hela Solos

[@untitledname4740]

With infinity stones odin might die but without stones thanos dies

[@karnage2948]

Wouldn’t Thanos just snap whether is hela or Odin?

[@nashwagemakers]

@@Lelow then the stones touch and cause a massive explosion lol

[@1Okoya1]

Just going to point this out as well , Odin was one of the forces Thanos feared, t's why he didnt really make any moves against Asgard until After Odin died as they were legit one of the powers in the universe who could end him if they were brought to bare

[@ale-jandra8735]

Odin and Hela*

[@mithical4750]

@@ale-jandra8735 he said Odin was ONE OF

[@idontwatchfilm]

That fan theory has been denied by the producers. They said thanos’ quest for the stones did not begin until he found the location of the soul stone.

[@ianquinones51]

It’s confirmed by directors and in what if that odin wasn’t perceived as a big threat to thanos

[@HTMN161]

That’s not true

[@FatMCSteve]

Stormbreaker Thor vs Hela is a debatable fight, considering he was much more powerful than he was without it

[@oscarsoderstrom3896]

We have already basically seen it, Thor fought Hela with gungnir (Odin Spear) and that's the second most powerful weapon on Asgard basically the same as stormbreaker minus summoning the bifrost. + As the older sister she would have more control over it as she did with mjolnir.

[@duffmanjon]

@@oscarsoderstrom3896 he didn't awaken his powers till after he didn't have the spear anymore though

[@oscarsoderstrom3896]

@@duffmanjon didn't probably feel the need to, considered he had the spear.

[@Kevynmorgan]

Hela will still kick his a$$

[@oliverfrost2430]

We don't just need an Odin movie, we need a trilogy! Laufey, Hela and Surtur could all be compelling villains and deserve their own films, not to mention they could show more of Friga, younger Thor and Loki, the Valkyrie's, there's so much to do there!

[@TheOneWhoDings]

I just wanna see Hopkins play Odin in a leading role.

[@fynningwersen6735]

Thx for this interisting video. Also nice to see that you also mention asgardians from agents of shield, I just loved that show.

[@therongertz3570]

lol that Kurse flashback joke was HILARIOUS! Great writing.

[@megatran1984]

I cant believe i just found this channels..lol man you are awesome,u explain shit in a way new guys like myself can understand..thanks brother

[@LucifersTear]

Lmao the Idris Elba "F**k" killed me, spat my tea down my chin 😂☕

[@frwb3351]

really fun video to watch buddy. well done

[@KeyIssues]

Thank you!

[@FrameRage]

It seems like Odin has full control over the Odinforce, and each Asgardian shares in a small bit of the Odinforce, which is what grants them their superhuman traits like old age and superior strength. Since the Odinforce appears to only be able to be controlled by the Royal Family (Thor eventually masters the force, renaming it Thorforce; wonder if Odin's father Bor had a version called the Borforce?), it would make sense that people closer to the Royals, like Heimdall or Thor or Frigga or Sif, would be stronger than the average Asgardian, as they share in a larger part of the Odinforce. The other question is whether or not how much Odinforce you have access to is genetic, and depends on how close you are genetically to the Royals, or it's more decided by the current master of the force; like saying Odin gave Thor his power to begin with just as he was able to take it away, as he controls the Odinforce which dictates Thor's degree of superhuman ability.

[@yoboyrob201]

It’s funny you chose the clip from the dark world of Odin saying they’re not gods. In the very next movie he straight up calls them gods.

[@leonardoclaros9773]

You should do a comparison of surtur’s sword vs stormbreaker. Keep up the great work!!

[@dimond360_]

This is super random but I noticed you have kept updating the High Republic Power Scaling Tier List and wondered if you were ever going to make a sequel to that video.

[@deanvanzelst5011]

I agree with your list(although i would put heimdall higher), although if you look at the comics instead of movies this list would be waaaaay different.

[@MrPooPooJohn]

Just when I think I've memorized the motto, you go ahead and change it again!

[@itsjustwow5028]

Sylvie is strong no doubt. I don't think she can exactly go toe to toe with Loki though. Everytime they fight he isn't going 100% and he still won most if them.

[@AngelicaLeDang]

Fenris is actually the son of Loki according to the Nordic mythology and was never Loki's daughter and not to mention Jormungandr or the world serpent is also one of his sons and the Hela or Hel is also Loki's daughter and forget this not Sleipnir is an eight-legged horse ridden by Odin. Sleipnir was born when the god Loki shape-shifted into a mare and became pregnant by the stallion of a giant, as is recounted in the tale of The Fortification of Asgard. Sleipnir is attested in the Poetic Edda, compiled in the 13th century from earlier traditional sources, and the Prose Edda, written in the 13th century by Snorri Sturluson.

[@ShadowLibrarian]

Correct the MCU really messes up Norse mythology.

[@KeyIssues]

Cool

[@agentemerald4563]

Loki is also odins brother

[@shawn092182]

And Laufey was actually Loki's mother, a goddess. His father was Farbauti.

[@TheJennick13]

May need to take another look at that- Loki's wolf-child was actually not a female, but a male: Fenrir, & a major component of Ragnarok as he kills Odin during the final battles going on, Fenrir is supposed to essentially eat the sun & end the world (i think, off the top of my head). There are several other things they changed from the true mythology, not sure a lot of people really knew

[@Joesith_]

im addicted to these videos

[@RichLunaMusic]

I feel like Old Loki was ripped straight out of the music video for Kryptonite by Three Doors Down.

[@michaelmiguel6937]

Imagine if the valkyries hadn't died would they just call them all Valkyrie?

[@ethan_hendo2774]

All the Valkyries had names but only the first 12 have had their names mentioned.

[@iversonxdstoriesweishen1456]

You forgot hawkeye

[@dandamansanto2385]

Could u make a how powerful video on loki. The normal loki. Or all of them in one video

[@stealthven2352]

i think that the Loki who killed Thor is underrated

[@KeyIssues]

Loki has had plenty of opportunities to kill Thor in the sacred timeline but didn’t

[@desmonides]

🐍

[@bestintheworld568]

It was hinted in the first Thor movie by Loki that Heimdall could be nearly, if not as powerful as Odin himself. So honestly, he should be pretty high up in this list...

[@drksideofthewal]

Top 10 most powerful Galactic beings next? (Thanos, Ego, ect.)

[@TheChadChamp]

Garrick with the Hulk downplay 🤕 Good video tho as always

[@KeyIssues]

I would never 😅

[@TechnicalT]

i hope we one day get a video on cloak and dagger

[@brandonscot2024]

Can we just appreciate Kurse really did whoop that ass

[@manchestercity9306]

Heimdal should be in top ten really. The ability to see the whole world is really powerful

[@Mohak254]

i would love to see a fight between odin and the ancient one

[@fredkelly6953]

Asgardian tier list which doesn't amount to much on a cosmic scale. The Celestials are finally in the MCU, Eternity is floating around and Galactus is coming, 'nuff said.

[@markmcpeake6637]

Can somebody please help me with something, Was Mjolnir Odin's hammer first before it became Thor's?

[@tnsxpm]

i def want a shang chi style movie about odin & his father

[@patrickrobinson7541]

Basically prime Odin solos everyone below him

[@KeyIssues]

Yessssir

[@paulgraf5746]

I think Thor, Hela and Loki together could defeat him theoretically

[@patrickrobinson7541]

@@paulgraf5746 Odin would just take thors power… imprison hela and beat Loki

[@masteroogway2264]

Thanos with IG always gets underestimated since his retcon 🤦‍♂️

[@ritaakpan2648]

Can you do The top ten most powerful dceu characters The most powerful weapons in the dceu The most powerful weapons in the mcu

[@Kaijutopia]

I don't know if Thor w/ Stormbreaker could take Hela at her peak (I'd love to see Key Issues explore this matchup in greater detail), but the fan-theorist in me thinks Odin intended Stormbreaker to be more than just a coronation gift to Thor. Perhaps Stormbreaker is more than just a Thanos-killing weapon but a Hela-slaying axe.

[@KeyIssues]

It probably ain’t much more powerful than Gungnir (also a king’s weapon) which couldn’t kill Hela

[@Kaijutopia]

That may be the case. As far as Asgardian weapons go, Gungnir is generally underrated despite having arguably better feats than, say, Mjolnir. I'd love to see Hela return just to see how she'd fare against Stormbreaker. Maybe we'll get a What If?

[@williamnunley3493]

@@KeyIssues But it is the dwarf literally said it's the strongest weapon in asgardian history. Stormbreaker controlling the bifrost automatically scales higher than any other asgardian weapon.

[@williamnunley3493]

@@KeyIssues Stormbreaker injured Thanos twice killing him the second time you saying hela could stand up to that?

[@KeyIssues]

@@williamnunley3493 yes

[@kinggrimlock311]

How come Laufey and Loki's spots are connected along with Thor and Hela's?

[@ethanprice2165]

Thor actually did stand a chance against thanos in infinity war when his body wasn't fat. Also Odin was so powerful that thanos most likely had to wait for him to die before he could collect the infinity stones. I mean this guy beat surtur at full power, he beat hela, casted out Thor like he was nothing and defeated laufey. He probably fought strong beings as well.

[@timfoley3189]

Did Surter wright the Bangles song "Eternal Flame"!

[@yu-gi-ohheathen]

The Norse Gods in the MCU are Gods. Nobody even uses the dark world reference as in Thor Ragnarok they are clearly refered to Gods. Even Odin says to Thor are you the God of hammers. Hela even says she's the Goddess of Death.

[@dereckkessler]

Odin's father from the flash back should be stronger than most of the list

[@ejcabalan4263]

Please do mcu loki powerscaling

[@ANW115]

Hoya bro!

[@airforcex9412]

Deity = god. That Odin at one time says they are not, does not change the fact they are. We have the entire human experience to show that even the Sun can be a god; it’s in the eye of the worshiper, not the being itself. There isn’t an universal definition of what qualifies as a “god.” Odin refers to Thor (later) as the “god of thunder.” They are gods. Lower case g.

[@dha616]

Actually each Asgardians are a God in comics and one of the strongest and powerful race in entire marvel multiverse MCU wanted to make some science and logic behind Asgardians.But now MCU introduced magic ,also in Thor Ragnarok MCU shows they are gods and they are using magic unlike science.Also Thor said that odin defeated Surtur half a million years ago.Also in Thor 4 Gorr is coming,so now Asgardians are gods unlike Thor 1

[@KeyIssues]

We may consider them godfs, but according to Odin, they are not. There could be REAL gods in the MCU that we are unaware of (possibly celestials) that Odin would consider actual gods. No point in arguing with a character in lore who would know more than you.

[@williamnunley3493]

@@KeyIssues No according to odin they are GODS he said so in thor 3 and since 3 came after 2 this is the current understanding. He asked thor is he the GOD of hammers and hela as the GODDESS of death.

[@yu-gi-ohheathen]

@@williamnunley3493 I agree completely with you bro except with you calling them little g gods. They are Gods I don't some know why people are still caught up in that alien bs after Ragnarok clearly said they are Gods

[@ahadgamera4340]

@@williamnunley3493 they are gods not Gods. there is a difference

[@tls5669]

The comic book Odin power level...Oh my

[@the_alpha_not_male]

I thing that list gonna change after thor 4, with gorr the god bucher. Just below odin.

[@alexandelsosa7718]

I can see Kurse defeating Sylvie but not Valkyrie for some reason. Then again i am in love with Tessa Thompson.

[@joseluis5055]

Kurse literally bullied Thor and almost beat him to death, Valkyrie would not stand a chance

[@desmonides]

Loki beats Valkyrie Sylvie IS Loki, therefore Syl beats Val So if Kurse beats Sylvie… then Kurse beats Valkyrie

[@torytelf]

Could we pls have more debunking videos Eg screen rant debunked

[@KeyIssues]

possibly in the future

[@ritaakpan2648]

Can you do How powerful is DCEU doomsday How powerful is DCEU steppenwolf How powerful is MCU captain marvel How powerful is MCU iron man

[@Sinbad24]

Who just finds a legendary weapon that makes you 10x stronger and just destroys it

[@calvinzabo8153]

love you

[@KeyIssues]

🥰

[@69mickswagg]

Gator loki number 1!

[@RaymonPrivgeTRusit]

What show is The warrior who stayed?

[@trikegang6671]

Shouldn't eternals also be classified as gods? Since they were praised in Greek mythology too as dietys just like norse gods.

[@dfailsthemost]

Odin v infinity ultron might be cool

[@emiltiwaz1022]

The most powerful Asgardian is the First Asgardian Buri, a.k.a Tiwaz. He was the Elder God Tiwaz and reincarnated as Buri, the first Asgardian Skyfather and Godhead, after he escaped the purging of the Elder Gods. He is Odin's grandfather and Thor's great grandfather. 'Tis very unlikely that he will appear in any Thor film anytime soon but I would like to see Robert Duvall in at least a cameo of this role. Him or James Earl Jones.

[@dextermorgan6665]

I thought when Odin said that about them not being gods it was retconned?

[@xx_ironman77_xx1]

odin said he wasn’t an god but I think he knew he was one cuz we all know Odin has the potential to fight celestials and even Galactus cuz oden is a sky father level God if he believes so or not. and unless MCU Thor either becomes rune king Thor or the harald of galactus he won’t surpass Odin‘s power level . Imagine if all of the avengers were losing against Thanos and odin comes and defeat thanos even in his old age even if Thanos had the infinity gauntlet👀

[@utathya23]

Hey...gr8 job...BUT what about Bor, father of Odin?

[@KeyIssues]

Featless

[@The_Chicken_]

Kratos claps all tho (he is cursed with imortality.... kinda) he is cursed so he can not take his own life and by letting someone else kill him is like him wanting to end his life. So that means Kratos can not be killed even if he was "killed" when he wasnt expecting he would still come back to life because he wants to die and there so if anyone tries to kill him its basically if he wanted that.

[@1973Ganesh]

Cosmic king Thor

[@marcusblasurca6583]

Fenris should be higher because he is the one who can pierce Hulk's skin in mcu and Hulk can't even fight him properly, add the mythology version he swallowed Odin

[@cracktoon_powerscaling]

Agardians? Isn't it Asgardians? Awesome video so far I'm 11 minutes in

[@atreestump]

Thor and Heimdall are exactly equal in every way, I don't think it's been stated in the MCU but it's true in the comics and in the mythology.

[@santi_super_stunts2573]

Tell thanos that

[@atreestump]

@@santi_super_stunts2573 I get what you're trying to say here, but Heimdall and Thor both got trashed by Thanos. Why Thanos chose to kill Heimdall and not Thor is anyone's guess

[@yoboyrob201]

Honestly, heimdall should be on this list. It was said that even Odin should have cause to fear his power. He’s above the likes of sif and loki. He would destroy loki. Loki had to break out the casket of ancient winters in him. That only temporarily stopped him.

[@spadezap9728]

Maybe, but his feats are pretty weak compared to everybody else

[@yoboyrob201]

@@spadezap9728 they barely have him do anything till ragnarok

[@marveldcmortalkombatsuperf2083]

@@yoboyrob201 hiemdall can't even defeat the black order what makes you think he can destroy loki just because odin is afraid of hiemdall doesn't mean hiemdall is stronger is just like we are scared of cats but we can just strangled them

[@yoboyrob201]

@@marveldcmortalkombatsuperf2083 um, loki can’t defat the black order. So I don’t know what your getting at. Plus, it’s kinda hard to say because we didn’t see the fight. But thanos riled up in there with an infinity stone a dude with telekinesis, a lesser hulk and 2 good fighters. We have no idea how heimdall got defeated

[@Alexander-ng7zz]

@@marveldcmortalkombatsuperf2083 Pretty sure the Agsardians got ambushed by the black order and wasn't expecting it, besides Thanos with the power stone was also there. I mean even Loki and Thor was there but wasn't able to beat them as well

[@jessiebrown2979]

What happened after he mine warped Valkyrie? She knocked him out and drug him back to her apartment in chains to turn over to Thor...

[@spadezap9728]

Yah idk what exactly happened there

[@jakealter5504]

She beats him skill wise but he has her beat in mental abilities

[@w.nelson8692]

When are you doing Spider-Man?!

[@Bundeskaiser]

I have very mixed feelings about Odin. He lives from his legacy, not his actual feats in the movies. Overall, we haven't seen any impressive feat from him in the movies at all. The enchantment of Mjolnir and the power removal from Thor might be nice but but far not as impressive as some feats we've seen from others, especially no combat feats at all. I know, he was way past his prime, but still... What makes things even worse for him is that Loki was able to replace him while he was still alive, basically imprisoning him in Norway. What about Bor by the way?

[@guilhermepinheiro1588]

odin said thor is stronger than him so id argue thor is stronger than hela and surtur too since odin overpowered them, thor also has acess to magic now which im really looking forward to see being used. he also beat a 6 infinity stone ray and cut through thanos with 6 infinity stone durability. and imo hela was only able to destriy mjolnir becasue she was its first wielder

[@Crayshack]

Fenrir is male. He's described as such in the Eddas.

[@desmonides]

Female in the mcu

[@batman1736]

Correction they are gods that is just a movie error because in the first movie Thor he is a God and the avengers movie he is a God and every other iteration and every other MCU movie he is depicted as a god they make sure to let you know he is a god even old and retracted that in the third movie and stated that Thor was a god his sister was a god Loki is a God serter is a god they are all gods and they make that a very clear distinction Valkyrie is a God lady sif is a God they're all gods it was just an error in that specific movie Thor number two because they tried to make it a bit more realistic or bring something different to Thor but it didn't really work because you can't say that he's mortal and then try to give him something different and higher up in other movies make him more than just mortal and that was just some arrows on the studios part the directors whoever the writers or whoever you want to blame for doing that that was just an error on their part cuz we all know that they are gods and no matter how you try to slice it you can't change that because there's no way you can sit here and try to compare Odin to Zeus and then you say old and is not a God but Zeus is then it wouldn't make no sense for Thor loving thunder the movie would be irrelevant because at the end of the day why would Zeus waste his time or even give his time to Thor if he's not a god why would Gore the god butcher even give Thor the time of day if he isn't a god the reason why that movie is going to do big in terms of the plot is because Zeus in the Olympians in the Norse gods and Thor and Gore are gods.

[@calday2136]

Where would Odins father rank?

[@edgarromero5600]

Thor with stormbreaker whoops hela tf you mean

[@KeyIssues]

lol no

[@eddawson9617]

In today’s day of tokenism I think Valkyrie has earned her position as queen of assguard in only 2 movies

[@theboobster7446]

What about odins father bor

[@brietzke99]

Man I can't believe there was no mention of Odin's father Bor I mean that guy was crazy powerful

[@KeyIssues]

He has no feats in the MCU

[@hottrin6103]

stanley lee plays the one above all in the mcu

[@djmm1464]

At this time I would have thor over hela and surtur. Thor could easily beat Hela with stormbreaker especially considering their fight was already close on Asgard, Hellas source of power. As for Surtur once again I believe Thor with stormbreaker could defeat him. The weapon when wielded by Thor outpowered all of the infinity stones together which are the source of all life and creation.

[@danielphung5389]

Asgard is also Thor's main source of power

[@victornieves1794]

It’s not that Stormbreaker over powered the stones. It’s more like Stormbreaker can ignore the magic of of the stones because the Gauntlet and Stormbreaker have the same creator.

[@harleyadams837]

this need updating due to love and thunder

[@dimond360_]

MCU Wanda vs MCU Hela who wins? I place my bets on Hela in a 7 to 8/10 fight

[@dod297]

I would say Hela based on superior physical abilities, meanwhile Wanda is a glass canon. Sure Wanda can rewrite reality, but Hela could just immediately conjure and throw a necrosword to kill her before she could even attempt to cast her chaos magic. But if Hela gives Wanda even a second to cast her magic or use her telekinesis or telepathy... well it would be over for Hela. Overall i would still go with Hela.

[@Alexander-ng7zz]

@@dod297 She could easily create shields to block them or just toss them away with telekinesis which doesn't take a lot of time.

[@dod297]

@@Alexander-ng7zz Hela skewers her before Wanda could react.

[@Alexander-ng7zz]

@@dod297 How? Wanda has been shown to go toe to toe and react to Thanos' attacks.

[@dod297]

@@Alexander-ng7zz by throwing the Necroswords into Wanda, killing her? Thought that was obvious.

[@akaakaakaak5779]

Kurse should be way higher, he still murks current Thor

[@swyxTV]

Classic Loki costume really showing off his *midgaard* there

[@fazri1057]

What if Ghost rider Vs Scarlet Witch?

[@godspeed6980]

You do realise that both lokis were nerfed in the tva because its negates all powers

[@Vader255]

Hemidall didn't deserve the shaft he got I wish we saw that deleted scene of him figthing iron man

[@alexanderlor1945]

Yeah and if we took scaling into account he could’ve been around but prob under Ironman aka hulk and giant man level

[@KeyIssues]

Unfortunately he’s just not that impressive in the MCU

[@alexanderlor1945]

@@KeyIssues yep sadly bc via scaling he could’ve made the Asgard warriors way more impressive like sif and the warriors 3 prob building level

[@wolverinegaming5738]

Dosen't an asgardian grow stronger the longer they live so when thor is as old as Odin he will be as strong as him and maybe even stronger as Odin said it himself in ragnarok

[@KeyIssues]

Not in the MCU as far was we know

[@wolverinegaming5738]

@@KeyIssues it would have been nice tho

[@Pongidy]

You forgot Odin’s father, Borr.

[@KeyIssues]

Featless

[@xXSonTJXx]

I feel like Thor surpassed Odin because I remember him saying that at one point

[@Pes._]

Yea he does which duh evolution guys

[@TheChadChamp]

The issue with that is after that statement is made, Thor admits he cannot beat Hela and that would de facto mean he can’t defeat Surtur too. However, Odin beat them both.

[@xXSonTJXx]

@@TheChadChamp yeah but you would think getting storm breaker and being able to compete or kill thanos (the strongest being at the time) would put him as the strongest regardless of that

[@TheChadChamp]

@@xXSonTJXx Stormbreaker most definitely scales above almost anyone in the verse physically, however we know Uru weapons can clash together based on when Thor had his 1v1 with Thanos. So Odin (who should be more skilled) would logically be able to outskill Thor of that Weapon and just outhax him him imo.

[@reptilesceptile1035]

@@xXSonTJXx surtur and hela would both kill Thanos

[@stingsdoesntit5390]

1 thing is that Odin. Feard Hela s power

[@knoxtheox897]

You forgot the s and in asgardians btw

[@KeyIssues]

Fixed thanks

[@too_official6194]

People forget frigga is also a god lol and why u do Thor like that in the vid 😭😭😭 dbz sound effects

[@KeyIssues]

Not me 😁

[@too_official6194]

@@KeyIssues killed me bruh 😭😭

[@CarlitoxBanana]

Y el Cocodriloki?

[@jberg3447]

Yea well what about thors grandfather and odins father

[@luohao2321]

Wait how is Kurse able to knock away mjolnir? Is he worthy?

[@spadezap9728]

Probably bad writing

[@oscarsoderstrom3896]

That's the thing he's just powerful af, waaay underrated character, should definitely be higher.