Keystone Hardware Wallet Unboxing, Setup and Review (Previously Cobo Vault)

[@intubus2]

Interesting product, very interesting channel with its own focus! I don't usually like unboxing videos at all. But in this case it is clearly different, because the highly competent presentation really makes sense with the product!

[@hireahitCA]

The only unboxing video I will watch is where they focus on the box and toss the product promptly. While this did unbox, the majority of the video was on functionality, which is great!

[@CryptoGuide]

Thanks, I try to make them actually informative as I am totally sick of unboxing/review videos which offer a barely superficial glance of the device itself.

[@intubus2]

I appreciate your expertise and the precise and clear presentation!

[@CryptoGuide]

Thanks and thanks for the tip :)

[@Ronstar351]

Hi can you please do a tutorial on the keystone pro and connecting to MetaMask and to put your accounts on MetaMask on your new keystone pro please thanks

[@CryptoGuide]

Perhaps at some point in the next few weeks. Where are you getting stuck?

[@skipwilliamson3679]

Hi...thanks for your videos. I've watched several vids about Cobo/Keystone. My problem is that I have several paper wallets created back in 2018. I want to import the private keys to my Trezor or Keystone (which I have not purchased, yet). So, the question is this: can I simply scan the private keys on the paper wallets with the Cobo/Keystone. Then confirm the keys with the Cobo/Keystone app. All the other software I've tried for importing private keys requires that I be online... I've watched your videos regarding sweeping paper wallets 3 or 4 times and I still get lost in the air gap process...you present your info very very fast. I'm a little slow in the head these days! Thanks for your input.

[@CryptoGuide]

You can't really import individual private keys from paper wallets like that with the hardware wallets you mentioned. If the process in my offline sign video is too much, you should check out my video on my the Ellipal, it's not a great wallet overall, but it is the only one which makes it easy to import loose private keys and offline sign.

[@dw4258]

I have the old Cobo, excellent premium product (in my opinion just as secure as ledger but by far better build quality). After the rebrand I chose to get the Keystone, as you know they are giving 50% off for ex Cobo customers. Thanks for the video.

[@CryptoGuide]

Depending on when you picked up the Cobo Vault, you might also qualify for a refund as of yesterday: support.cobo.com/hc/en-us/articles/4407973083287-Cobo-Vault-Offline-Notice

[@dw4258]

Great thanks, hope I havent just missed out! Will let you know... Thanks 👍

[@CryptoGuide]

It was only announced yesterday, so you certainly haven't missed out :)

[@dw4258]

It says those Cobo vaults purchased on or after 1st June 2020. I purchased 15th May 2020 - will try push my luck :)

[@CryptoGuide]

Can't hurt to ask :)

[@jeremyvaness183]

So when you setup the keystone MetaMask fork are you essentially setting up a new ethereum address? It doesn’t connect to your current MetaMask? So how I understand it you then have to send your funds from your current MetaMask to your keystone fork address? Not a lot of information on this on their end

[@CryptoGuide]

Basically it is just using the same eth address that is associated with your keystone. The difference between their fork and normal Metamask is that Metamask normally has at least one software wallet account as well as any other hardware ones that you have imported. (The Keystone one is hardware only)

[@takiaschannel]

Is it possible to easily recover all your coins if the hardware breaks and there's no way to get another device? If that is possible I'll feel safe to put my long term hodl coins in it. Thanks brother

[@CryptoGuide]

Keystone follows the BIP39/44 standards well, so you can use the seed to recover using another hardware/software wallet without any issue.

[@akumawetzel5625]

thank you ! ive tried em all trying to get my coins back!

[@CryptoGuide]

What do you mean trying to get your coins back? How did you lose them?

[@DerekDominoes]

Does this let you import BTC with multiple addresses from a Ledger Nano X? With the old Cobo Vault, it would only display one of the addresses.

[@CryptoGuide]

You can manually generate as many addresses as you like, you could do this with the Cobo too. If you are running the BTC only firmware it will also handle this automatically if used with something like Electrum.

[@charlizd]

How would you rate this vs the Ellipal titan?? I have the ellipal but the lack of coin support erks me, basically useless in my current portfolio.

[@CryptoGuide]

These devices aren't even in the same category, the Ellipal is basically a toy whereas this is a real security device.

[@charlizd]

@@CryptoGuide ok, and if you were to recommend any wallet, what would your personal choice be? I know different wallets suit different needs but am curious as to what you would recommend above all others.

[@CryptoGuide]

It depends what your are trying to store, but it altcoin support is a major consideration then a Ledger Nano X is probably your best bet. I have a detailed feature comparison here cryptoguide.tips/recovery-services-consultations/

[@ikust007]

Thank you Sir .

[@CryptoGuide]

Glad it helped :)

[@akumawetzel5625]

a year later.. 1/2 of a PH/s full on maxi! and I love the dice roll gig on this wallet.. but they have their entropy values off from what they claim 100 rolls with be in bits.. they even admitted it. I have the tweet DM.

[@CryptoGuide]

I would need to double check it from memory they are just treating the rolls as hex which is fairly common. (And not an issue, as the entropy per roll doesn't change, just how you are presenting it)

[@mrvincefox]

Would you recommend this or trezor t or ledger x?

[@CryptoGuide]

What are you planning to store?

[@mrvincefox]

@@CryptoGuide I have a trezor and ledger. But wondering how this compares

[@CryptoGuide]

There is nothing wrong with either, but if you are looking to do things like Bitcoin Multisig or Smart contract verification for Eth (and eth clones) then this can do that better than Ledger/Trezor.

[@mrvincefox]

@@CryptoGuide thank you sir. Keep up the Excellent work

[@CryptoGuide]

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[@sting0072007]

Looks pretty neat

[@CryptoGuide]

Yea I was impressed

[@sting0072007]

@@CryptoGuide so I'm guessing the hardware wallet doesn't know how much BTC you have?

[@CryptoGuide]

Your hard wallet never had any knowledge of your balances and for those wallets that show this, it's purely decorative (and shouldn't be trusted) and has no impact on signing transactions.

[@totallyraw1313]

What do you think of just storing bitcoin in an Electrum wallet? Is that not safe enough? I mean it's not connected to the internet when you access it.

[@CryptoGuide]

So do you mean only using Electrum totally offline in Tails Linux and offline signing transactions? If so that's fine... If you mean using Electrum as a software wallet in your normal desktop environment then that's really insecure, but that's fine as long as you are only storing small amounts.

[@totallyraw1313]

@@CryptoGuide I meant just using it as a software wallet on the desktop. Why is that really insecure if it's on my own computer and I'm the only one who has the password?

[@CryptoGuide]

Yep... Very insecure... Fine if you only have say, less than $1k, but any more is a really bad idea...

[@totallyraw1313]

@@CryptoGuide OK thanks for the heads up! I think I might now buy a Keystone Pro and transfer my Electrum stored coins!

[@CryptoGuide]

Best of luck :)

[@hireahitCA]

Oh and unrelated to my other question, but any reason you can think of to not use an existing Cobo Pro with Bitcoin only firmware going forward, and a new Keystone for other coins? Best of both words, better than the mostly garbage (but almost free!) SafePal I snagged, which is okay when it works, but that is far from a regular occurrence.

[@martinlutherkingjr.5582]

Well, if you can go Bitcoin only there’s a much better option: ColdCard

[@jpp59]

Lack of update on a airgapped device is not an issue. The only issue you will have if when you update companion apps, they might not recognize it anymore (bluewallet for example you have to go in bluewallet 's settings and force the use of v1 qrcode)

[@jpp59]

@@martinlutherkingjr.5582 disagree, with coldcard it is not 100% airgapped, you still need to use a sdcard

[@hireahitCA]

I’m already on Bitcoin only, and ColdCard requires a SD card which is a dealbreaker. I’m trying to device about going forward. Hardware hopefully remains functional longer without updates, but if BlueWallet drops support for the specific QR codes? Or if a vulnerability is discovered? There are a few risks, although reasonably minimal.

[@jpp59]

@@hireahitCA vulnerability on the cobo vault would be finding a way to dump/extract seed from the secure element (requiring opening it), no software could fix that. And would still be difficult to exploit (maiden attack). Anyway you have the bip39 phrases as a backup so no worries...

[@PPCCO.]

If it doesn’t connect to the internet? How can it communicate with the blockchain through QR?

[@CryptoGuide]

It doesn't, all it does is sign transactions that are passed to it via the wallet software (which is online).

[@markrembold2289]

I see it uses the binance platform, can you chose a different one if you don't want it to run though binance

[@CryptoGuide]

What do you mean "uses Binance platform", it supports the Binance smart chain along with Eth, etc. There is no lock in to any specific platform or coin.

[@markrembold2289]

@@CryptoGuide Awesome. I was worried as if Binance closes would we still be able to use the wallet on other platforms

[@CryptoGuide]

This wallet has nothing to do with Binance other than the smart chain being one of the blockchains it supports :)

[@dzidmail]

It's a shame multicoin version doesn't have Bitcoin only features. Having both readible smart contract display for Ethereum and advanced multisig features for bitcoin would nicely complement Ledger hardware wallet.

[@CryptoGuide]

Yea the feature mix is really a shame if you are wanting the advanced features on both.

[@BOPISbewitya]

Sorry to bother you but do you have an updated trezor passphrase recovery? I cant seem to follow along with your previous one from 2years ago. Though I've already tried and downloaded btcrecover when recovering my ronin seedphrase, I just dont know where to start. Thanks

[@CryptoGuide]

The process hasn't really changed, you will need to use the process in my ronin wallet video in terms of addresses and wallet type.

[@BOPISbewitya]

@@CryptoGuide I tried doing it for 3 hours it dont seem to find my passphrase. Ive listed every word I know that was written and remembered and still no luck. I used the ronin address and change the ronin: to 0x and still no luck, and my 24 seed phrase Is working exactly how it should. Please help

[@CryptoGuide]

3 hours is nothing for this kind of recovery. It all comes down to whether you tokenlist and typos get you to the password.

[@TALKCalgary]

Is it not a bit risky trusting a Chinese device that is for the most part unproven?

[@CryptoGuide]

Their open approach makes it easy to use the device totally trustlessly for both Bitcoin (via the Bitcoin only firmware) and Eth(+Eth clones) so that not really an issue.

[@ronni5054]

HEY Does support monero....?

[@CryptoGuide]

No

[@renalovington5764]

The concept is really cool but the firmware doesn’t always update correctly. The first time I updated I had to re-update several times before it accepted. Just recently I sent $300 to my wallet and it didn’t send correctly and they will not refund me even though i sent to the correct adress.

[@CryptoGuide]

Strange that the firmware update had issues, I have done a bunch of updates and never had a problem. Makes me wonder if your SD card is dodgy. In terms of having and issue sending funds to the device, what does this actually mean. Did you send the funds on the wrong chain? Who are you asking for a refund? (and why) When you control the private keys is pretty difficult to actually mess up receiving funds in a way where you actually lose finds, so just curious what you did as it's likely a straightforward recovery.

[@bullitttraders4995]

Hello, can you make a short video how i add more txt Files --seedlist [FILE]] [--multi-file-seedlist] , how do i name the text files would be nice if you can add 3 text Files and run it....

[@CryptoGuide]

The info you need can be found in the --help argument.. --seedlist [FILE] A list of seed phrases to test (exactly one per line) from this file or from stdin, if used in conjunction with --multi-file-seedlist, this is the name of the first file to load --multi-file-seedlist Enables the loading of a seedlist file split over mulitple files with the suffix _XXXX.txt

[@akumawetzel5625]

would this be easier than an ledger s?

[@CryptoGuide]

If you stick with the vendor supplied app, it's certainly a simpler experience.

[@i.b.l.b5627]

waiting fo btc only video, comment is for the algo. =)

[@CryptoGuide]

Thanks, BTC only will be coming too :)

[@fyre2377]

Its nice but with all the tech it introduces more room for failures and security holes

[@CryptoGuide]

If you want something simpler then just get a Jade

[@alvinsimbillo7017]

Hi sir, is it possible to recover lost ronin address?thanks

[@CryptoGuide]

How did you lose an address? Do you still have the wallet you got it from?