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[@GrowlingSidewinder]

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[@MississippiKid96]

F-35 strike behind enemy lines?

[@Anarchy_420]

Please create a scenario with NGAD, SR-72, and B-21! All three 6th gen aircraft in one vid!🙏👍

[@burhanilyas]

There should be a J10 vs Rafale

[@jadedragonfilms8784]

Can we see some more merge fights? Love you too

[@davidmckenzie1695]

Do a KF-21 vs SU-57 BVR?

[@urielmanzone1772]

Fun fact, the boramae actually also carries meteors

[@nythawkfpv]

well it will carry meteors

[@urielmanzone1772]

@@nythawkfpv yeah sorry i mispelled it

[@georgesakellaropoulos8162]

That would definitely have changed things.

[@Takamiya_Mio]

Actually, AIM-120 is not integrated yet, but Meteor is. They should have carried 4 meteors.

[@kerviuskuroshiba5120]

omg....Can we request a re-match with the Boramae equipped with Meteors? 😅

[@mr.unepic8426]

Once again thank you for another entertaining video! My daughter and I love watching you fly. Only videos she’ll watch

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Thank you both for watching, much love. And please pass my thanks to your daughter as well.

[@brandondugger2754]

You should take her to the "Air Zoo" in Kalamazoo , Michigan. It is a U.S. Navy fighter museum , they have a simulater you can fly that goes °360

[@michaeld1170]

Boramae literally translates as Baby bird of prey like Hawk or Eagle. If you remember Bird of prey is the definition of the word “Raptor”. So the Koreans literally named their jet Korean F-21 baby Raptor as a homage to the F-22 adult bird of prey

[@kbm2055]

Yes it's surprising the amount of people who think the F-22 is named after a dinosaur, the Velociraptor.

[@traviswalker8933]

​@@kbm2055I mean, the eagle motif for the F-22 made it pretty obvious.

[@stinkyfungus]

​@@kbm2055 When in reality... it's the other way round, velociraptor was named after the modern predatory birds. Veloci = fast, Raptor = Avian predator. Velociraptor = "fast avian predator"

[@kerbalairforce8802]

"Just like a bird. Even the word 'raptor' means 'bird of prey'"- Dr Allan Grant, Jurassic Park

[@RC-cv4lw]

Well, theory that KF21 was named boramae aa homage of f22 raptor is interesting, but boramae was used a symbol of South Korea airforce since 1952

[@joelcueto2460]

From what i understand regarding the KF-21s main air to air missile, is the South Koreans chooses the Meteor missile instead of the Aim-120 Amraam because of the range that is superior to the Chinese PL-15s. The Koreans also i believed develop 5 of the technologies involved in the Boramae.

[@happyface4234]

pl15 has operational range from 200-300 km, definately not more. the metror has 200 km max.

[@doit185]

One of why KF-21 has been designed to be compatible with Meteor air-to-air missiles is that Meteor is appropriate to the anti-stealth tactics that both South Korean F-35A and KF-21 will carry on together. This needs long explanation...

[@yuny2023]

你们还服役了比pl15更强的导弹？😂

[@theamericancommie727]

@TOP10-tasterange is pretty cool and all until the other guy activates their ECM

[@johnsullivan8673]

@@theamericancommie727so people can home on jam you?

[@robertswan742]

KF-21 Boramae: If an F22 and an F35 had a baby

[@culloden23]

And named it Kimchi

[@im-a-mexican-knockedout-snorin]

And a little down

[@traviswalker8933]

All these new "stealth" aircraft like these are heavily influenced by the F-22 and the F-35.

[@BARelement]

@@traviswalker8933Geometry, Aerodynamics, specific FBW technology, and A Country’s engine technology limits the amount of variety you could ever have in a “stealth fighter” even if Russia did it first. America wouldn’t be copying them as it would be a massive limitation set. Gen 4 allowed tons of more room for “uniqueness”. I’d say the most Unique of the 5th Gen’s has to be the YF-23. It’s superb FBW, and nutty engines it had allowed it to be the way it is though. Idk if we will get another aircraft like that in a while. Everyone so stuck to the more conventional F-22, Su-57, F-35 looks. The second most unique design has to be the J-20, it’s the only stealth aircraft rocking a delta canard config, and the only non American aircraft to have legit looking stealth coatings.

[@ObiWanShinobi917]

​@@BARelementlegit stealth coatings? Doubtful. I'm sure it's a coating that the Chinese consider "legit" but in comparison to U.S. RAM coatings? Doubtful

[@cshan2313]

I was expecting to see meteor missile from the KF-21 since it was shown doing test flight with meteor mockups

[@charlesrichardson8635]

Great to learn a bit about other nations' aircraft with your commentary.

[@productamadeus8745]

That middle dodge into the ocean was sick.

[@trentvlak]

It's interesting to me that two seemingly simple ideas are really hard to implement - internal weapons bays for fighters and carrier catapults.

[@ThePubicBeards]

@@teeanahera8949 not only that, these parts need to be able to operate without failure under any condition. imagine your weapons bay door not opening or losing the ability to launch planes from a aircraft carrier, it would render the both crafts useless

[@Eluderatnight]

​@@teeanahera8949look into cheetah hunt at busch garden or Hulk rollercoaster at universal. They both use the same tech.(linear accelerators)

[@torokun]

In KF-21’s case, it’s more political than capabilities. It’s already ready yo have an internal weapon bay.

[@trentvlak]

@@teeanahera8949 The void isn't the problem homie, it's opening and closing the doors at mach eleventy reliably.

[@Trades46]

The PL15 is a huge missile (compare it to the PL12 on the J-11B) but they can fit them inside the J-20.

[@oggearhound2242]

The close-up kabooms! are fantastic on this video!

[@TheOriginalFaxon]

Okay now redo this video with Meteors on the Boramae because it can also carry those already (at least that's the plan)!

[@traviswalker8933]

Carrying those already and having that as a plan are two different things.

[@gohkhohgobovk9083]

In fact, KF-21 hasn't integrated AIM-120 yet KF-21 is using Meteor now

[@Of_Your_Volition]

Didn’t think I’d see the KF-21

[@MiG-31893]

Nice! Id like to see you in the KF-21, if possible

[@Anarchy_420]

Please fly The F-15EX with AIM-260's VS The MIG-31 with R-37M's! Please fly The F-16I Sufa with Python 5's VS The Gripen with IRIS-T's! Please fly The Rafale VS The Typhoon guns only! Please fly The F-4 Phantom VS The A-4 Skyhawk guns only!

[@Ghoster311]

Those all sound good. Especially the first one.

[@Anarchy_420]

@@Ghoster311 thanks!✌

[@left_ventricle]

Rafale vs Typhoon has been done tho.

[@Anarchy_420]

@@left_ventricle nah he flew The Typhoon against The Rafale! Lol I've been trying to get em to do the opposite since before then ;)

[@ytn00b3]

J-11 shooting down KF-21? 🤣🤣

[@johnsullivan8673]

KF21 only had first flight last year

[@subjectc7505]

The KF-21 is an interesting fighter jet i must say

[@ObeyNoLies]

I'm in love with the Boramae, it's just such a cool project and plane.

[@EdgeR2]

Now do the same matchup but fly the KF-21 with meteors, since that's what it's carrying in every picture

[@Najman1910]

Id love to see some more night operations like you did some time ago in the f16 i think

[@m.andrews5578]

Funny how stable the canopy mechanism on the third KF21 was, after the seat ejected 😅

[@khoatran-sv7je]

Didn't expect to see ROKAF's KF-21 here, what a surprise! The next thing we know GS is going to do a video on Turkey's "KAAN" 5th gen fighter.

[@VonGoth]

Havent heard of that one.

[@khoatran-sv7je]

@@VonGoth Search it up, looks exactly like the F22, similarly like KF-21.

[@zebimicio5204]

didn't both south korea and turkey shared some tech for both kaan and boramae? I'm also sure they did it first with the k1 and altay@@khoatran-sv7je

[@truthseeker9454]

I have a question for this astute body of commenters: Instead of flying in formation -- any formation -- if say, a three ship (like the Boramaes in this video) weaved in and out among one another, constantly changing places, would that make it more difficult for an adversary to get a radar lock on any of them? Just curious. Thanks in advance for the tactical insight!

[@Raptorofwarbbc]

not really

[@jonathanpfeffer3716]

That would actually possibly increase the radar energy they would be returning if the radar waves reflected from one reflected off another back to the adversary radar.

[@kerbalairforce8802]

At range, radar sees the group as one contact anyways. If they split up on missile launch, the missile will just pick whichever one is giving the strongest contact. You're close to something though, some fighters have towed decoys that the pull with a long cable. This way an incoming missile tracks 500ft behind you or so.

[@truthseeker9454]

@@kerbalairforce8802 Thank you for explaining that! I've read about those decoys, at least some developed by Israel. They are reportedly very effective, and can be retracted and reused, unlike disposal countermeasures. Merry Christmas to you, and may you have a prosperous New Year!

[@Santi-792]

Omg , very nice ❤ , i was waiting for you using the KF-21 hehehe , i wanted to see the inside but i guess the plane Is very much new for DCS

[@nac2713]

As a korean, I am so glad that our fighter jet is in this channel. Can you fly boramae once please?

[@icun2212]

As an Indonesian, i request the same

[@LEgacy0811]

@@icun2212idk why Indonesia is in the project like ur country is not paying most of bill for the project like wtf (Poland will do better then that)

[@screwthis3151]

​@@LEgacy0811 let's not bringing it up here even though its not going well

[@user-hm7vz2me3h]

​@@LEgacy0811 That is the Government's interest. You should not be arguing personally.

[@_Vocado_]

Very fun video i honestly just started watching but i know that i will love it

[@DIVeltro]

I miss the "old school" jets...loved the MiG19 vids, the Phantom vids....the old school of fighting for the kills...

[@baur1238]

I'm now serving in ROKAF. It's interesting to see Korean aircraft in GS video XD

[@brandondugger2754]

KF-21 is primarily armed with the Euro-produced Meteor air to air misles. I have not studied Chinese air Force misles , I wonder if they have a equivalent to the MBD Meteor. Is anyone here an expert on the Chinese air force ??

[@kether1]

The PL-12 missile,a Chinese missile, is a missile made by imitating Russia's R-77 missile and is expected to have worse performance than the R-77.

[@dvjvbv]

You mentioned at one point that you couldn't help your wingman. I'd be interested to see the strategies involved in doing that. Maverick throws his fighter in front of the missile - pretty sure that's not usually an option. lol

[@craycap6325]

KF-21's look cool

[@DairyCat]

GS: "I think my PL-15s are my advantage" Me: "I think you piloting the jet is your advantage"

[@Blakelysworld358]

The decals on the side of the Boramae look like they got Pepsi as a sponsor.

[@AdalbertSchneider_]

8:29 WTF ? Since when is my mouse cursor so small ? 👀 few seconds later... oh, its not mine 😋

[@cozz117]

Nice to get immediete notification on a sidewinder vid 😂

[@bitkarek]

its like F22 and F35 had a baby and its not really grown up yet to have internal weapon bay :)

[@ItzRetro2019]

YESSSSS, i totally asked for this!!!

[@pwindle]

What do you think of trying a scenario with the new Sky Warden or Super Tacano? US Air Force and SOCOM recently bought some of these modern prop driving fighters.

[@anaesthesia3571]

As always,great fight👍❤️

[@TMouse-hd5jb]

. . . . . . . 10:47 "It has been a very long time since I have landed a Flanker." 12:08 *Insert best Bob Uecker impression* "Juuuuuuuuuuust a bit outside. He tried to mow the grass on that one."

[@ace_raptor]

Boramae means baby goshawk. So glad that I can see KF-21 in thin channel

[@HypoceeYT]

"It's been a long time since I landed a Flanker..." (Lands...technically on the runway) :P

[@qxexe1502]

Can you do a rematch fight between the F-35 and Su-57 but this time its just plane VS plane no SAM's or AWACS?

[@timsullivan4566]

What an ending!

[@kerbalairforce8802]

Something thats bugged me for a while: if a stealth jet has its lowest RCS from the front, would it not be better to fly straight at a radar missile, and maybe fire a decoy?

[@Aeroman08]

It's a good question but most likely not. The reason is stealth doesn't mean you're invisible tor radar, it just means it makes you harder to detect and only at closer ranges than normal. As a missile closes in on you, it will get past the range where your stealth, even from the front, prevents detection. If you're still headed straight for the missile at this point, it will almost certainly hit you. This is why notching it and forcing it to bleed its energy is still the best option. But, as I mentioned, your stealth would theoretically allow you to get much closer, and even get the first shots off before your opponent can fire, giving you a higher probability of kill (pK).

[@FrostYT4444]

What song do you use in the ending cinematic scene?

[@qc_ploum-zoum2]

Battlefield 3 or 4 trailer song

[@dan725]

It’s the battlefield 3 main theme song.

[@FrostYT4444]

@@dan725 Much Thanks

[@Daniel-jq4qk]

Where did you get the KF-21 from???

[@truthseeker9454]

Suggested Video Subtitle: "Flanker Clones vs. Fat Amy's Cousins."

[@curtlarson2585]

Those Flankers may be the prettiest jet aircraft ever ever produced. Imagine what they would look like if the vertical stabilizers were configured like an F-18? I am curious to know if you also fly in msfs 2020? If you do, you should try out the A2A Piper Comanche 250. It feels like I own the real aircraft and if you don't operate it properly you can break it or damage or destroy the engine. Its worth every penny it costs.

[@bishopoftroy]

Can you do with maybe older planes, Mig-15, F4 Phantom or even Mosquito?

[@alexeyguskov8153]

So as I understand, it was fight between Chinese SU27 and Korean version of F35?

[@user-ov2hp9hc5m]

As a south korean subscriber, Little suprised boramae has shown this channel😮

[@dennisfalzon8946]

As Rooster said to Maverick, it's not the plane, it's the pilot!

[@kosher4418]

Before landing, GS left a place for his dead wingman...

[@RedBananaBlueApple]

What version was AMRAAM? It's a little bit weird match that RCS didn't make much difference in range... and why don't KF-21s defend low?

[@suspiciousobscurity9886]

Hey, I would love to see a jf-17 vs f-16 bvr fight sometime if you haven't already made a vid like that

[@zebimicio5204]

still waiting for a j10 v eurofighter/raffale.

[@jtrx753]

This shall be interesting

[@jparkhku]

There is a gap between 'declared' and actual capability. A simulation dogfight depend a lot on the input capabilities.

[@silvanoryu5973]

KF21 will carry Meteors and AMRAAM hasn't been integrated yet. You can see that all test flights of KF21 has 4 METEOR missiles on the under carriage. That might level the playing field a lot. But anyway, great video as always!

[@davidball.]

The kf21 was also in development with the us.

[@jaxlad2447]

i want to get into dcs but i have no clue where to start, should i get a hotas? vr? what do i need

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

I made this video for people just like you kzbin.info/www/bejne/mZu1l5Rtp6ylaq8&ab_channel=GrowlingSidewinder

[@NoneyoBisniss]

We've got Hawks fighting dragons now. Great. 😄

[@joelzinho4600]

KF - 21 looks like a Mix of F35 and F22

[@gdelta6226]

boramae means juvenile hawk in korean. young, bold peregrine hawk is ready for ganing experience and become veteran. just what koreans expect from boramae, replace kf-5 tiger II& f-4 phantom - good old veterans of ROKAF and become new spine of future air force

[@craigwycinsky3889]

GS, I’m not sure I would want to be your wingman. They all end up dying… 😮

[@GrimReaperOG1]

Great videos, but at the end of the day, we don't know how stealthy these jets really are.

[@kerbalairforce8802]

Even the exact specs of the missiles are classified. The whole exercise is based on guesstimating

[@EagleFighterJet]

Great videos

[@parhamaboulhassani6208]

hey man love your work plz do some F35c from navy carrier strike group missions thanks ❤

[@HotRod-gv4zt]

Sadly enough, DCS pilots have more dogfight training than the actual Chinese or Russian pilots 😂

[@stevemc6010]

We shouldn't underestimate them tho

[@subjectc7505]

Don't know about China, but Russia ye

[@_jaegerboy_]

I'm 90% sure my country (Indonesia) is definitely not getting the KF-21. Why? Because we haven't paid for it-

[@_jaegerboy_]

Which is a shame really

[@z5170]

yall stressed the koreans so much with the spendings 😂​@@_jaegerboy_

[@_jaegerboy_]

@@z5170 fr dude 💀

[@Captain_Echo]

interesting, so the KF-21 is close to a 4.5 gen? not a stealth focused aircraft but stealthier than a 4th gen?

[@Schimiter89]

It is 4.5 gen and will be 5th gen in block 3. At least that's their plan.

[@Captain_Echo]

@@Schimiter89 noted, i thought it was given he was saying it was between 4 and 5

[@torokun]

It’s 5th gen ready.

[@Captain_Echo]

@@torokun i see.

[@jimmyha1898]

It has a 5th gen airframe, but currently lacks internal weapons bays and stealth coating. That will be introduced later in its development cycle. It is currently 4.5 gen to the best of my knowledge.

[@Rufus6540]

Is home on jamming source still a thing (if it ever was)?

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Yes it is.

[@ssssss7112]

it's the defeat of amraams and awacs

[@jasperboleyley9659]

please do fa-50 too please

[@timbaskett6299]

Okay, so try this one again as a DRK MiG-29 pilot.

[@sgt.grinch3299]

Can we get the YF-23 against any and all foreign fighters? Thanks

[@41641]

Plz make video jf 17 block 3 vs Tejas fighter jet

[@erikcourtney1834]

The kf-21 looks like a raptor knock off. The fixed wings are slightly shaped differently. But the rest looks close. But far different aircraft thankfully.

[@nestorarcilaosorio2457]

Lockheed help them, maybe thats why. Also no compromise in the design like with the F-35.

[@jimmyha1898]

It's developed with Lockheed Martin as the advisory partner....of course it's going to be similar. If you want your aircraft to have good aerodynamics and RCS, the designs are going to be pretty similar.

[@kertaspaper94]

So when will someone make a mod of the T-50/TA-50/FA-50 ?

[@josephmelchiore3464]

You should do a su 57 vs kf-21 boramae dogfight

[@turleyelectric8136]

I would never be your wingman...I'd die for sure😅

[@theiceman447]

We need a F-86 bandit unknown vid

[@ivandieguez5996]

Definitely need the J-11 vs the F35C!

[@looseleafomega]

10:46 "It's been a very long time since I've landed a Flanker." Read: "It's been a very long time since I haven't been SHOT DOWN in a Flanker." 😂

[@NationChosenByGod]

It is stealthier than the Su-57.

[@derroneverest4511]

The KF-21 looks quite similar to the F-35.

[@OumuamuaOumuamua]

Thought it looked more like a f22 personality

[@Schimiter89]

They look quite similar to F-22 because F-22 has one of the best structural configuration for stealth to this date, if not the best. I wouldn't be suprised if other nations develop 5th or 6th gen fighters and they would look just like F-22 as well.

[@Shadowboost]

It's way closer to the F-22

[@ryanrundell8538]

I thought I saw something like this being developed by Japan that is heavily inspired by the F22.

[@zevynozevyn4102]

You did its the FX or it could be the Mitsubishi X-2

[@HabouLan1937]

@@zevynozevyn4102 sinsin

[@sweatybotfn9982]

Are we not gonna talk about the fact that this guy 1v3d KF-21s in a J-11(SU-27)? I think what aircraft he put against has no difference. First bro beats F-22 with a F-16, then he beats J-20 with an F-15 and now this😂

[@seonwooKIM77]

오... 보라매도 DCS에 등장했나보네요 😀

[@SV001R]

국내에서도 KF-21 만드시는 분들이 계신데 그분들한테 제공받은건 아닌거같아요

[@theprogamers4948]

do the Australian f-35 vs the chines 5th gen fighter

[@Anarchy_420]

J-10 VS SU-27 AV-8B VS F-35B MIG-29K VS SU-33 F-86 Sabre VS A-10 Warthog MB-339 Aermacchi VS MIG-15 Mirage F-1 VS Panavia Tornado P-47 Thunderbolt VS SU-25 Frogfoot F-111 Aardvark VS MIG-27K Please fly Planes on the left, all guns only!🙏👍

[@dontknodonno1783]

More kf 21 please

[@Neverforget343]

Day 38 ME-109 K4 vs the F15C Eagle

[@terryweedon8431]

KF21 is a partnership with Korea and Lockheed Martin. It's literally a baby raptor lol

[@StEvEn-dp1ri]

Do a reverse of this flight.

[@michaelargent6865]

the KF-21 Boramae looks like a F-22 and F-35 hybrid ngl

[@coachwilson5967]

The J-11 got airborne? Nice!

[@johnsullivan8673]

Only when GS is flying.

[@bkbaughn]

Ok time to reverse the roles. I wanna see more of this Korean jet

[@tv-pg4kc]

Good

[@felixgaede6754]

Never heard about the KF-21 before, but it looked quite familiar to say the least. So i looked it up and it said it was made in cooperation with Lockheed Martin… Yeah, how could you tell?

[@jimmyha1898]

Lockheed Martin has been contributing as an advisory role. I think it has potential to be a great fighter :)