KF-21: Korea's New Fighter

Since 2001, South Korea has been developing a domestic fighter aircraft. This fighter will bridge the gap between 4th and 5th generation aircraft, giving Korea a multirole defensive and offensive jet.
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[@raafdocumentaries]

On the topic of Australian Made Aircraft, check out "Home Made Wings" kzbin.info/www/bejne/bIa1d4WDrtuCjqM And for those who seemed confused that Australia and South Korea have friendly relationships watch this part of our history kzbin.info/www/bejne/jHyuemiOeLZ3pbM

[@kuyre2239]

when s korea and australia become ally?

[@greg.peepeeface]

@@kuyre2239 how are they not?

[@joshuafalken3312]

As much as I'd love to see an indigenous manned aircraft, I'd need to see a series production uav/ucav first. (And a civilian nuclear power industry). Justify those immigration figures with some really desirable skills and Qualifications.

[@superheracross89]

Usa helped

[@raafdocumentaries]

@@kuyre2239 kzbin.info/www/bejne/jHyuemiOeLZ3pbM

[@Harry-nw2dl]

For Australia, the KF-21 would indeed be a good option. Currently, Indonesia has been delaying its 20% share of the payment for years, only demanding excessive technology transfers that differ from the initial contract. South Korea has requested that Indonesia at least submit a plan for the share payment, along with compliance with the contract, but the Indonesian government has even missed the promised deadline for the payment plan. In this situation, if Australia, one of South Korea's closest allies, were to cover Indonesia's share, it would be a very welcome move for South Korea too.

[@rullyrully1915]

It would be better for Indonesia to resign and cancel this collaboration. The Korean side got technology from the USA. "There are 129 key technologies, while the USA did not provide 4 key technologies to anyone, while 9 technologies were not provided to Indonesia, also Indonesia cannot export this fighter aircraft because the USA did not give an export license to Indonesia. It only benefits the Korean side.

[@ViolentCabbage-ym7ko]

The US will pressure Australia to buy its fighter jet instead, just like the French submarine deal

[@AthosRac]

Just get the Gripen.

[@Harry-nw2dl]

@@rullyrully1915 Then why did the Indonesian government make the contract? contract is contract.

[@visions91]

Well, Australia has a better credit rating, that's for sure.

[@kookie175]

Like how the S.Korea ship building industry has evolved to making some of the world's powerful Aegis destroyers, i won't be surprised if the later blocks of KF21 will evolve into something more spectacular.

[@shopoverload2]

Fun fact. Many of the KF-21 engineers are from the Korean shipbuilding industry. Many of these engineers moved to aviation industry during the downturn of the shipbuilding industry.

[@raj-hf4wb]

1st they need to be stealthy...

[@dna6882]

@@raj-hf4wb I would agree with you, but only to a point. In the past 12 months the aircraft that has secured the most new sales is the French Rafale. While it contains a significant amount of design features and tech aimed at reducing its radar cross section it would hardly be considered a "steath air craft". Therefore I would say that the KF-21 might benefit most by looking at "stealthyness" as one of the multiple elements that must work together to ensure the plans survivability in the modern battlespace.

[@raj-hf4wb]

@@dna6882 world of fighter aircraft has been in transition phase from BVRM to stealth.still, most of the countries lack these features but certainly all countries wud try to possess such feature rich aircraft in future.french rafale is successful cuz of that time gap in transition.stealth cud not be achieved only through ceramic coating,radar absorbent material and hidden inlet design or reduce curve on plane but a powerful yet silent(without after burner ) engine. All countries except US combined haven't developed such capacity...and Korea is heavily dependent on West or US for avionics,radar,design,wind tunnel testing,EW suite so, yes they trying too...but luk so distant in future.

[@kurosumomo]

If you saw this video and the word South Korea would be replaced with China or Russia, you'd be talking a different tune; Copy, stolen technology, worse, garbage. Yet if I show you this plane for a split second from a frontal side view, you would easily mistake it for an F-22, but again, since it's South Korea it's an amazing and spectacular and I'm not saying it isn't, but it looks like every other jet that tries to be angular and stealthy 5th Gen, from the KF-21, J-20, FC-31, Su-57, Su-75, TF Kaan all the way to the Mitsubishi F-X.

[@keurikeuri7851]

Philippines current latest jet fighters are Korean FA-50s so I believe that the next fighter jet that the Philippines should buy are the KF-21s because our fighter pilots are already familiar flying Korean jets.

[@user-zd3lj5gl9f]

한국인입니다. 필리핀에 대해선 늘 감사합니다 1950년 6.25 한국전쟁 때 적지 않은 파병을 해 준 고마운 나라입니다.

[@normanocampo4466]

If the deal falls through against the F-16 Viper, the Philippine Air Force might go again with FA-50 Block 20, and possibly also with the KF-21 Boramae

[@user-kx7rw3cv4q]

한가롭게 커피나 마시고 있는 유럽인들은 필리핀의 범죄소탕작전을 이해하지 못했다. 훌륭한 정책.

[@user-me4uv6pr4v]

@@user-zd3lj5gl9f 까지마라

[@user-zd3lj5gl9f]

@@user-me4uv6pr4v 배움 없어 보이는 M.E/E.VI 터진 못 난 색희 ^ㅡ^ 나중에 꼭 폐지 주우며 기초수급 받다가 독거4 하거라~

[@cipsahoy9639]

The fact several new aircraft mimic the F-22 design goes to show how ahead of its time it was. Still one of the sexiest planes of all time. Glad our allies in the pacific are re-equipping themselves with the industrial base to defend themselves 💪🏼 best of luck my Korean, Japanese, and Aussie friends

[@fredbyoutubing]

This reminds me of cars, smartphones and civilian aircrafts. As the years go on, they all look more and more similar since the design is the most efficient with existing technology. The F-22 was really ahead and just now other countries are catching up.

[@alexwalker2582]

I agree, it looks like an F-22 Lite to me.

[@motoKJ]

@@alexwalker2582 It was made with Lockheed Martin, so wasn't a surprise

[@Cam_Wight]

And the F-22 wasn't even as stealthy as the YF-23 it beat! that thing was light years ahead. Can't wait to see what the NGAD and F/A-XX programs looks like soon!

[@arnolddavisjr5951]

Because they are terrorist sorry

[@jimmyha1898]

Hoping the best for the KF-21. It looks to be a promising new airframe, and it is a beautiful looking plane. I think the domestication rate for the KF-21 in terms of parts is 65% or something (unsure of the exact number) which is already phenomenal. This starts off as a 4.5 gen, but fundamentally, it has the building blocks necessary for a 5th gen and possibly a 6th gen upgrade. Lockheed is an advisory partner, but did not give out any core technologies (AESA radar, IRST, EOTS, weapons/flight control software, stealth coating, etc) as someone commented in another post here, to the best of my knowledge. They were supposed to I think, when South Korea bought the F-35A, but they refused to transfer tech in the end. Lockheed helped guide the airframe design, but most core technologies were developed by South Korea which makes things more impressive.

[@henrihamalainen300]

The current development in USA seems to be making 6th gen into a stealthy flying control-center for small swarm of stealthy companion drones that carry all the weaponry etc.. As such every 6th gen might be comparable to a flight of earlier jets and so the cost will stay high and production numbers too low for economy of scale.

[@user-sz7cn3yd1j]

It's an exact replica of Americas f 35....tell me I'm lying🤔

[@johnhamm6127]

@@user-sz7cn3yd1j you’re lying and blind. Lol

[@KoreanAir001]

@@user-sz7cn3yd1j the concept is totally different.

[@meyenxhin6891]

@@user-sz7cn3yd1j that is China's new jet. F35 is single engine but KF21 is twin with out inner weapon bay. Even KF21 have no have air compression bulge in front of air intake but F35 did. Be compare F35 and China's. KF21 is not copy of F35. But it is down sizing of F22. That is more reasonable.

[@Iloveyounot]

If it's made in Korea, it is going to be good quality.

[@jimmylam9846]

Oh yea ! kzbin.info/www/bejne/qGPPdqWqjax0qbM

[@Aniki-0409]

Made in Korea is synonymous with inferior quality😂

[@sorimanzz]

@@Aniki-0409 Exactly which product is of poor quality?? Made in Korea is not made in China Even in Korea, competition is so fierce that if quality drops, the company goes out of business. What kind of crazy person would make quality so bad??

[@Iloveyounot]

@@Aniki-0409 You must have Korea mixed up with China. 😂

[@LongHUlove]

@@Iloveyounot 中国制造咋就质量不好了 你不喜欢可以不用中国产品

[@quarryryde]

Australia should get involved in the KF-21 project. Indonesia is a partner for only the first phase and they have been an unreliable partner. Currently Poland and UAE have expressed interest in becoming partners for the second phase. Australia should get involved in the second phase as well as Korea is much more willing to share technology and allow local production as opposed to other high end fighter producing countries such as US, and France. KF-21 fighter has a lot of advantages over other fighters not the least being cost per bang, including the maintenance costs.

[@ggoddkkiller1342]

The problem is KF-21 is not entirely South Korean and have American engines etc which was the whole reason why Turkey left the project. And you know Americans if you want something from them better get ready for giving privileges to them! If second phase is entirely South Korean a lot more countries would be interested..

[@AtticusZhivago]

@@ggoddkkiller1342 So the Americans should just give away all their tech that cost them billions upon billions of dollars for nothing in return, and no safeguards that the tech won't fall into enemy hands? @quarryryde If your concern is for local production over capability, just build one on your own and have complete control over every aspect. Think of all the jobs you would create to develop all that tech, and the corresponding weapons, all on your own.

[@ggoddkkiller1342]

@@AtticusZhivago Here your logic miserably fails as who is your enemy exactly, is it Turkey, Australia, South Korea etc or China? If it is China care to explain why exactly US has been investing literally TRILLIONS of dollars to an enemy which included even many technologies, huh?? Ridiculous and moronic ''we have to protect our tech'' excuse somehow only works against allies to force them follow US policies! While enemies both receive technologies + insane amount of investments as they wish. They could even hack US and steal technologies but nothing happens to them. US foreign policy reached so moronic levels no wonder even ''close allies'' are trying to avoid cooperation as much as possible..

[@Allin7days]

@@ggoddkkiller1342 I thought it was just the engines, GE.

[@ggoddkkiller1342]

@@AtticusZhivago If you are so worried about your technologies, care to share why US has been investing literally trillions of dollars and technologies into China? Tech excuse only works against actual allies somehow for obvious reasons ofc..

[@walle5972]

Indonesia has been making a fuss about not paying development contributions. Still, Korea accompanied them with great generosity. Nevertheless, Indonesia was caught trying to steal technical data this time. Why does Indonesia, which is moneyless, ungrateful, and even immoral, try to rely on Korea? I feel extreme anger at their uncivilized behavior.

[@nobelnbl6834]

bullshit, you talk like you know everything, i'm indonesian, i respect every comment but not with yours, you fvckin bullshit

[@pogogod6036]

Why so many Koreans are crying over this? Lmao.

[@lol-ie3rx]

@@pogogod6036 우는게 아니라 인도네시아의 신뢰 문제에 대해 이야기하는건데 인도네시아인들은 논점을 모르네. 인도네시아는 양심이란게 없어? 가난한 개발도상국이라그런거야?

[@JohnSmith-zh8yl]

Your attitude is why indonesia will always be in poverty. Sad.@@pogogod6036

[@user-to4iq4bq9g]

@@pogogod6036 Indoensian guys are so poor, the real beneficial owner is Indonesian politicians yet they made Indonesia spend 2x operational cost with 2 different fighter jet system (European and USA,Korea) but no one is realize that in Indonesia. Lmao god bless Indonesia! keep it up hahahaha

[@capnron65]

THIS, and other projects like this, is what the West needs. Congrats to South Korea on amazing developments like this!

[@jwpark4787]

Thank you so much. the West saved Korea before, from now on Korea will be the guardian of freedom and Democracy over the world.

[@RngBooger]

america litt has the f-22 and f-35 that were released way before this jet plane. You would wonder what america has that isn't released in the public

[@grimgoreironhide9985]

@@RngBooger Too expensive

[@neerajoshi5473]

When this Aircraft enters service. You know that Poland will be the first country to buy it just like how Poland bought 1000 K2 black panther tanks 🇵🇱🇰🇷🫡

[@YNL2004]

（🇮🇩）如果印度尼西亚人看到该评论会表示很愤怒

[@Maddog-xc2zv]

And it's a pretty nasty buy for all that are foe's to Poland and added valued to it's allies also some with very developed air forces, Rafales, Eurofighters, F/A 18 Hornets (not super hornets, which I believe will be replaced rather soon), F-16 (mostly being phased out on more developed countries), F-35's in great numbers considering the European Allies Air Force Size, and who knows F-15EX if the programme shows to be promising. Moreover 2 conglomerate of European countries are currently continuing the development of their 6th gen planes (2 different planes, one for each conglomerate).

[@neerajoshi5473]

@@YNL2004 they’re not gonna get mad. Poland is South Korea’s biggest military partner and customer right now Poland has bought so many things from South Korea their bond is unstoppable 🇵🇱🇰🇷🫡

[@vidarodinson5246]

@@YNL2004 why would we got mad? Respect to Poland from Indonesia

[@arya0794]

​@@YNL2004 why would we? If this is supposed to quip us for not being able to pay it then let me explain why we didnt do it in the first place. After the embargo the us had against us, we decided to partner with sk on this plane because we thought we dont have to rely on the superpowers. Now look at how it turned out, we honestly prefer to buy planes straight from them at this point since most of the parts are sourced from the us lol.

[@user-xg2qn1so8v]

It is scheduled to be upgraded to a 5th generation stealth fighter after 2030. Korea also began developing its own engines.

[@elviakerlick1163]

Australia could negotiate a co-production agreement with South Korea regarding the KF-21. That would be the most effective step towards developing an indigenous tactical aircraft manufacturing base.

[@ViolentCabbage-ym7ko]

Uncle Sam is not going to like it if Australia builds its own fighter jets. Who is going to buy F-35 if KF-21 is comparable to US fighters?

[@AtticusZhivago]

Who will fill all these needed jobs to make that a reality? The Aussies are already saying they are going to have trouble getting enough manpower to operate their nuclear submarines.

[@gaekodirector8134]

South Korea is also developing its own engine, and if we upgrade the KF-21 base platform step by step, it can become a 5.5th generation fighter. Currently, it is being developed jointly with Indonesia, and the development portion is 20%. I paid only about 1/6 of the 20% of the total. Among them, I bought a French Rafale fighter. And 3 days ago, I was caught trying to steal technology with USB. It is a country without trust.

[@JIRO-FX3150]

Are there any companies in Korea that can make jet engines? Come to think of it, a man who was involved in the design of the F-22 and worked for Boeing, Lockheed Martin, and Raytheon before returning to South Korea and founding Navionics Korea was indicted on charges of stealing military technology from the US government. What happened to the trial? If you export stolen technology to a foreign country without permission, you will be subject to sanctions from the US government. It's no good if you act like the Chinese.

[@user-wr8yv5eh7x]

​@@JIRO-FX3150 Hanwha Aerospace has been producing engines for the F-5, F-16, and F-15K for 40 years. This company is currently producing engines for the KF-21 and T-50 under license. The company is also developing engines to be installed on the KF-21 with the goal of 2035~2037.

[@animal4977]

@@JIRO-FX3150 Since the information came from that person's head in the first place, I have no intention of stealing it or anything.

[@user-ko3eu8mb6d]

한화. 그리고 니들은 거짓말을 많이 하지. 중국 피가 흐르나봐.

[@gaekodirector8134]

@@user-ko3eu8mb6d 한국에서 인도네시아에 원조하는 금액은 모르고 말하는 것인가? 그리고 KF-21 프로젝트를 시행하였을때 분담금을 일부 납부하기로 했으면서 납기일이 훨씬 지났음에도 하지 않은 이유는 무엇일까? 간을 보는 것입니까? 어짜피 인도네시아는 러시아 무기 수입이 안되기때문에 한국 무기 수입이 절실할 때입니다? 내말이 틀렸나요? 그리고 KF-21 분담급액도 납부 못하는 거지 나라에서 기술 유출은 왜 하는거지요? 거지에요? ㅋㅋㅋㅋ kkkkkkkkkkk wwwwwww

[@steponstep1230]

One aspect that should not be overlooked is ‘Korea’s production capacity.’ Looking at the production speed and production volume of the K-9 self-propelled howitzer, K-2 MBT, and FA-50, you can predict how fast and productive they will be. The delivery time of military weapons delivered by Korea to Poland and India was within the contracted time or faster. This fact is important not only for weapons production, but also for maintaining them and ensuring operational time.

[@honshin23]

For South Korea, which is close to North Korea, China, and Russia, the United States is too far away, and if a defect occurs in a fighter jet, repairing it takes at least six months to several years. South Korea cannot afford the resulting power vacuum. So they decided to make the KF-21.

[@user-wu9bi8ry5m]

In the South Korean National Assembly, South Korea's main enemy is Japan. Therefore, for them, China, their suzerain, and North Korea, their compatriots who are at war with South Korea, are not the main enemies of South Korea. The main equipment of the KF-21 is either existing technology imported from other countries or manufactured under license. The KF-21's engine and armament are imported, so even if it is possible to repair the aircraft in South Korea, the operating rate is low. Currently, South Korea does not have the budget to purchase machine guns for the F35 or to update the F35. South Korea must transport the broken F35 by ship to Australia for repair. Therefore, South Korea scrapped the F35 that had belly-landed.

[@jlee9652]

The South Korea's main enemy is not Japan but North Korea.@@user-wu9bi8ry5m

[@honshin23]

@@user-wu9bi8ry5m Haven’t you been watching the latest news on the East Asian situation? North Korea and China are preparing to start a war more than Japan. The F-35 is a stealth aircraft whose initial mission is rapid ground bombing. After the F-35 bombing, the KF-16, F-15K, and KF-21 can handle the ground bombing. There is no reason to operate many F-35s, which are expensive to maintain. The US is overcharging for the F-35 update, so KF-21 production will be increased by up to 300 units. If a country with a smaller defense budget than South Korea operates the F-35, its defense budget will be insufficient. GE F414 engine can be produced in South Korea under license, and weapons are gradually being developed in Soith Korea, so there is no major problem.

[@chosenasagao]

@@honshin23 Like South Korea, both Russia and China have huge debts. North Korea is on the verge of starvation. In an attempt to overcome this, they may start a war. (Russia has already started) At that time, their target is a country with poor military power. South Korea has that condition. It's not about the amount of weapons or the amount of soldiers. Its military capabilities. During WW2 and the Korean War, many Korean soldiers often abandoned their weapons and fled. The current weapons utilization rate in South Korea is said to be less than 25%. In other words, the South Korean military is the weakest in Asia. South Korean troops participated in the Vietnam War as American mercenaries. Their targets were South Vietnamese and North Vietnamese citizens, not North Vietnam. The reason why the Vietnamese government is indifferent to the Lai Dai Han issue is because most of the victims are former South Vietnamese citizens who were enemies. After WW2, a Korean general of the Japanese Army was executed in the Philippines by the Allied forces as a Class A war criminal. He was the commander in chief of POW camps in Asia. His crime was ``conniving in the abuse of Allied prisoners of war by Korean guards.'' Now and in the past, the Korean military targets only the weak, not the enemy forces.

[@GoogIe_UK]

@@user-wu9bi8ry5m South Korea's main enemy is North Korea, followed by China and Russia. And Japan is now in an alliance with the United States. The United States is a blood alliance with South Korea. There is no eternal enemy and no eternal alliance, but there is no chance that South Korea and Japan will go to war before the United States falls. In addition, KF-21 was created in collaboration with Lockheed Martin, but much of it is self-produced in Korea due to the rejection of technical alliances in important parts. What you know is a really stupid rumor, so don't worry.

[@user-xg2qn1so8v]

What Indonesia agreed to receive under the contract was production technology, not core technology. However, while demanding core technology, the business has been neglected for 3 to 4 years without paying any money. Indonesia says it is putting it off because it does not have the budget, but it continues to purchase expensive equipment from other countries. Koreans believe that Indonesia's presence is a risk to the KF-21 project.

[@pogogod6036]

Cry, girly boy.

[@leonardlee8652]

Indonesian aims to steal and sabotage the project from the beginning, which is why they've been neglecting to pay their contribution and kept asking for more time to pay the payment. So they can steal as much as technology possibly and sabotage the project. Indonesians have been doing it successfully so far!

[@dellyspice]

PH always keep their word unlike indonesia this is why PH is always so much better partener than indonesia

[@charlotte-qg5dn]

​@@dellyspice ur country bought 4 LPD's from us and yet u have audacity to said like that.

[@charlotte-qg5dn]

it aint about money dum*a*s, we literally got brand new 42 rafales and 36 f15s. its about the tech that korean could promised to indonesia as the agreement, but the fact is most of key technology in boramae are provided by US, so SK cant giving any without permission from US.

[@LooxJJ]

KF-21 is NOT a 5th Gen fighter. Its is considered 4.5, however, it can be 5th gen once internal bay is installed (which is planned for 2026/27). It bridges gap between 4/5th gen fighter niche market.

[@stupidburp]

I disagree. The bay isn’t required to be 5th gen. It has the same functionality as an F-35 in beast mode at lower cost

[@LooxJJ]

@@stupidburpI'm just regurgitating the plan recited by KAI on the public inquiry on KDFA last month.

[@toomanyidiots2820]

@@stupidburp they said that they will upgrade it to 5th(+@) slowly

[@TaiwanN0-1]

So block 3 is actually projected to be 5th gen+

[@tsz6993]

5代？掛彈在外面你是什麼5代？別說超機動性其他標準了，

[@rsoul7282]

South Koreans often are brilliant engineers, I would not be surprised if this aircraft turns out to be a very serviceable platform.

[@halfevilhalfgood2206]

With the help of Lockheed Martin.. maybe Japan can do better without any help of others.

[@rsoul7282]

@@halfevilhalfgood2206 I didn’t say they were totally acting alone, it makes a lot of sense to use the experience of your partners in any situation.

[@stupidburp]

Japan also got help from LM. The F-2 is essentially a derivative of the F-16 with significant differences that increase long range capabilities. South Korea meanwhile made their own derivative of the F-16 with the help of LM, the T-50 / FA-50. FA-50 is essentially a shortened and simplified F-16 for a lower budget point. Thus both countries got their own F-16 derivatives, Japan went for higher capabilities and much higher costs while South Korea went for lower capabilities and much lower costs.

[@JohnLee-db9zt]

@@halfevilhalfgood2206 The help from LM was minimal, more like consultants without designing anything for the Koreans. LM did not give out any core technologies like AESA radar, IRST, EOTS, weapons/flight control systems, stealth coating, etc. LM helped primarily in airframe design giving the nod the Koreans if they were going in the right direction. That’s why it looks like the F22 Raptor. The Japanese aren’t doing Jack. They proposed their own 5th generation fighter years ago and hasn’t gotten anywhere. Now they want a 6th gen fighter? lol. Koreans are playing it smart by starting at 4.5+ gen fighter and moving up to gen 5. I’m surprised how fast this fighter was developed and on budget.

[@Forevertrue]

It looks pretty good but that can be deceiving Look at the Chinese knockoffs of 5 gens. They are weak with less quality, shorter range, and dangerous to operate.

[@akreditifatih]

Nice fighter! Greetings from Turkey

[@jwpark4787]

thank you bro~! I'm a Korean :)

[@elricofarmer1561]

The Philippines should definitely be getting onboard with this aircraft build and developing closer ties with South Korea and its defense industry. This could add technology development to the local economy and help to build closer relationships with an important neighbor. This aircraft has a sexy look and appears to be highly capable as well. Having worked for Doosan here in the states, I'm familiar with Korean manufacturing and the progress they are making with sophisticated technology. I worked with their CNC machine tool division. I appreciate the opportunity and have trust that Korea will be successful. From America 🇺🇲 I wish the Korean 🇰🇷 military the very best!

[@Atrainsd]

Korea builds quality products, I wish the peninsula peace along with the world. I hope they never have to use those jets in combat. And they’ll remain an example of humanity’s commitment to technological development

[@keurikeuri7851]

For me, Philippines should also consider in buying a new jet fighter to be KF-21s since the current latest jet fighters of the Philippines are Korean made FA-50s. Making it more easier for the Filipino pilots to get familiar to the new fighter..

[@thomaszt6105]

whats so proud of building 4th jet when china and russia alr have 5th jet and developing 6th jet, cheap korean copy

[@elricofarmer1561]

@@thomaszt6105 .... LoL..... NO they don't. China and Russia have 💩

[@user-wu9bi8ry5m]

Peace in Asia has no bearing on South Korea, which is a Little Sino-ism, where China is the center of the world and Korea, which is close to China, is considered a noble race. Like selfish China, South Korea is concerned with short-term gains. The KF-21 prioritizes being an export product over home defense. Therefore, there is no unique Korean technology in the KF-21's main equipment.

[@gaius_enceladus]

I really like the design of this aircraft and the thought-process leading to it! The aircraft has an excellent balance of stealth, high weapons load, speed and range. I think it'll be an outstanding addition to the South Korean airforce!

[@cosmoray9750]

This narrator can't tell the difference between the number zero and the letter o. There is no such thing as C1o3. Try looking that up. It is korean C103 and google comes up with KAI KF-21 Boramae .

[@rickwhite4137]

The design is a F-22 replica.

[@kibathemechanic4967]

​​@@cosmoray9750 English-speakers occasionally say "O" in place of "zero." Fewer syllables, but they still get the message across. Me talking to a pilot: one-zero-three Me talking to mom: one-oh-three We definitely do so when we mention any of the Century Series aircraft between the F-100 Super Sabre and the F-110A Spectre - F-101 Voodoo: eff-one-oh-one F-102 Delta Dagger: eff-one-oh-two F-103 Thunderwarrior: eff-one-oh-three F-104 Starfighter: eff-one-oh-four F-105 Thunderchief: eff-one-oh-five F-106 Delta Dart: eff-one-oh-six F-107 Ultra Sabre: eff-one-oh-seven XF-108 Rapier: ex-eff-one-oh-eight XF-109: ex-eff-one-oh-nine OV-10 Bronco: oh-vee-ten

[@KoreanAir001]

@@rickwhite4137 since Lockheed helped with the base design

[@technocracy90]

@@cosmoray9750 do you even know that the famous movie 007 is called "double O Seven"

[@Ishikawa745]

Im glad that the Philippines is interested in the KF21 since the Philippines operates Sokor made fighter jets like the Fa50PH developed by KAI in South Korea in which helped the country's modernization program. Plus this 4.5 Gen design is as sexy as of those 5th gens such as the F22 and F35

[@medicalassociate1701]

They're most likely getting Grippens and F16s than the KF21

[@dellyspice]

PH always keep their word unlike indonesia this is why PH is always so much better partener than indonesia

[@tsz6993]

虛有其表，美國產線都沒移給你就代表你這架東西連F35還不如，F35都以經是失敗品更別說這個什麼k f21..

[@kanazef]

@@dellyspice keep dreaming bakla. 🤪👀

[@UnitedStatesofAmerica.858]

​@medicalassociate1701 Nah if they gonna pay their share in right time they will get KF21 for sure unlike Indonesia that guys already fucked up

[@jrtstrategicapital560]

Agreed! Australia should get involved with this new fighter program..South Korea manufacturers quality products .. 👍

[@captjinxmarine9832]

I remember when Samsung computers entered the US market and my first thought was they are going to give IBM a run for their money. At the time I was and IBM engineer. Also being a Marine reserve officer I thought we will have a most competent ally in Asia. Thank God it’s come in spades.

[@georgesikimeti2184]

….without apple and google operating systems and a bit from Microsoft,well Samsung should be thankful,again these technologies landmark achievements are u.s. initiatives and everything is possible attitudes.

[@captjinxmarine9832]

Actually George it was all Microsoft. Why did bug you. Being an Electro-Mechanical engineer I I saw a quality build@@georgesikimeti2184

[@powerupyo]

@@georgesikimeti2184 apple uses Samsung displays 🤣🤣🤣 try again, kid

[@georgesikimeti2184]

@@powerupyoFoxconn made iPhone not make a damp different to apple technology,iPhone can easily get another company to make Oled screen,but your point is way off, it’s the technology and initiation of mobile phones intelligent that put apple in the forefront and assisted Samsung no doubt.

[@georgesikimeti2184]

⁠@@powerupyoSamsung used android iOS operating systems on its smartphones and tablets,android iOS is Google,I hope you follow the narrative,Kid??

[@StarPony-dw3wv]

Simply, the KF-21 is what a modern F-15 would look like. It's a 4.5 generation aircraft. Stealth is not the highest priority. Instead, the focus is a balance between maximum power and armament with low observability as a consideration. It seems like a combination of an F-15 and an F-22.

[@evantimm6053]

It does seem to lack the extreme speeds the f15 or f22 are capable of though. But that makes some sense as they don't have a huge territory to protect.

[@Subzero-hh8ix]

@@evantimm6053 Could also be that US has an export ban on their tier-1 engines.

[@AndreKostolany.]

no. it is F18

[@technocracy90]

​​@@evantimm6053more like, it's never been designed to be "the best" or "the most". It's very nature is the gap-filling back up fighter with decent capabilities. Giving it the extreme speed is against its own goal because 1. That kind of capabilities can be found on the elite fighters KF-21 would back up and 2. It will only make KF-21 less cheaper, so you won't afford it as many as you need.

[@Pepe-dq2ib]

@@evantimm6053 Its why Indonesia went with a proven F15EX instead. Delivery dates are about the same, so its not an availability thing.

[@84erElessar]

Imo, the KF-21 is one of the best planes balancing capablilities and fly away costs (when numbers increase). The question is, how quick could those be produced, compared to other Western designs under war circumstances. In here I have a very good feeling with the KF-21!

[@michaellim4165]

It won't be operational until we'll into late 2020's. Also, it probably won't be available for export until the block 1 is complete and delivered to the ROK, which is 2032 at the current schedule.

[@Han-ws8he]

I can definitely say out loud that the production capability of SK would be one of the top in the world. The only matter would be the availability of some of the key parts from abroad such as engine. SK is a top tiered county known as industrial power house. Most machinery and industrial parts are developed and produced locally and logistics are well developed, many different types of human resources are also ready.

[@rosevitelli5814]

Absolutely we all know how smart and hard the South Korean people are when they are determined I have no doubts in the capabilities of the South Korean people may God bless there country and people a great people for the World and I hope we can stay friends oh I also enjoy quite a bit of movie's from So Korea keep up the great work

[@user-ce2rv3qh4d]

​@@michaellim4165 내년부터 양산이 시작되어 2026년에 첫기체가 인수될예정입니다

[@Pepe-dq2ib]

Then why did Indonesia go with F15EX instead? Delivery dates are about the same, so its not an availability thing.

[@MrTagahuron]

I will not be surprised if this is just a jump start to designing a stealth aircraft for South Korea. If they have gone this far in just a decade or two, they are on their way to creating their own 6th generation fighter aircraft. Very impressive!

[@georgesikimeti2184]

….not without America via Lockheed Martin know how and GE jet engine,at least South Korea acknowledged that cooperation!

[@coosmac]

They are going to develop this KF 21 into a stealth fighter in few generation down. All part of plan.

[@joncarolyn]

Lockheed Martin gave them the tech

[@coosmac]

​@joncarolyn That is T-50. They refused any help on KF-21. If you have any proof bring link

[@snowmochi1373]

@@georgesikimeti2184 well at least South Korea got those help legally. China just hacks US and copy American jets or reverse engineers Russian jets illegally

[@iyagicom5032]

South Korea will build its own engine Made starting from 15,000lbs. The KF-21 will fly through the sky with South Korean engines.

[@dexon777]

It’s really hard to build a better engine than f414. One of the perfect engines in business. Korea should focus on 5th gen engine.

[@iyagicom5032]

@@dexon777 The South Korean government and Hanwha have already begun preparations for production. It takes a long time, 2030

[@user-vd1nx5bh9q]

대한민국은 미국에서도 불가능이라 생각한 레이다도 현존 레이다보다 상위급을 개발 했습니다. 엔진도 얼마든지 상위버전을 개발할 능력이 충분 합니다. ㅎㅎ

[@tsz6993]

@@user-vd1nx5bh9q發發梦還可以

[@kfx3907]

@@dexon777한국은 세계에서 패스트팔로워의 역할을 가장 잘한다 봐도 무방합니다. 엔진은 한국의 새로운 목표이고 우리는 또다시 한계를 넘을거라 보고있습니다. 5세대~6세대 기체용 3만파운드 엔진 개발까지의 로드맵이 나와있는 상태입니다.

[@michaellim4165]

This platform will be the most widely adopting weapons platform having European, US and South Korean weapons.

[@daum2daum2]

Indonesia has continued to fail to pay for the promised KF-21 even after South Korea's ultimatum. In order to win the upcoming presidential election, Prabowo is buying French Rafale fighter jets at a cost of trillions in cash, not to mention the submarine contract with South Korea. The behavior is beyond comprehension. Most South Koreans are opposed to joint development with Indonesia.

[@pogogod6036]

Feeling is mutual. You must be so naive if you think there'e no good reason for us pulling out a little from this project.

[@user-to4iq4bq9g]

@@pogogod6036 Indonesia is the one who's not keeping the contract, not Korea. Feeling and reason are pointless when there's a signed contract.

[@pogogod6036]

@@user-to4iq4bq9g you clearly don't get my point.

[@charlotte-qg5dn]

instead blaming our gov, why yall dont blaming ur gov for cancel the project with us?, it would be grateful for us for not buying this goofy ass f22

[@sorimanzz]

@@pogogod6036 I accepted the poor kids who were begging me to participate in development, and I saw them at the level of a developing country that was trying to repay them with palm oil. That's why you guys are still at that level.

[@yongohkim1315]

In 2021, the President of Korea visited Australia and signed an agreement on space and air launch vehicles. Australia is a strong ally of Korea. The Australian Prime Minister shared various opinions with the Korean President about China's pressure. Korea has already suffered enormous economic threats from China due to the deployment of THAAD missiles, and numerous Korean investments have disappeared into thin air. Australia also recently shared this pain with Korea and agreed to close military cooperation. Recently, joint military exercises between Korea and Australia were held in Korea and Australia, respectively. Australian soldiers cooperated with the Korean military in Miles training at the Korean training range, and the Korean military practiced amphibious operations in the Australian area. There will be even closer cooperation in the future. Military cooperation projects with Australia have begun in the Army and Navy, and the Air Force will soon cooperate as well. The Korean people do not forget the sacrifices of Australian Korean War veterans. thank you

[@torokun]

it is obvious they will get to full stealth capability by the block 3 stage with internal weapons bay as well as some level of NGAD capability. It will get to gen 5.5 status in the years to come.

[@trinity1203]

1.AESA radar -Hanwha,, ADD (KOREA), 2.IRST -Hanwha, kai(KOREA), 3.Eotgp -Hanwha, kai,(KOREA) 4.RF-jammer-LIG Nex1(KOREA), 5.EWC-LIG Nex1(KOREA), 6.PWR-LIG Nex1(KOREA), 7.CMDS -LIG Nex1(KOREA), 8.MISSON computer-KAI,ADD(KOREA) 9.DIGITALCOCKPIT, Hanwha,, ADD (KOREA), 10. Ge Engine -Hanwha License (40% KOREA) 11. Avionics control system- kai(korea) 12. brake system -KAI(KOREA), 13.K-LINK communication system-Hanwha,, ADD (KOREA), 14 aircraft fuselage - KAI(korea), 15 Aircraft Wings-KAI(KOREA)

[@glamdring0007]

Truly impressive for a 1st fighter plane effort...well done S Korea 👍

[@briancrawford69]

They had help from a company with massive amounts of already building some of the greatest planes ever made so they definitely had a head start. Still good for them though

[@Maddog-xc2zv]

@@briancrawford69 no one does nothing alone. even individually, we all have our tutors and mentors who helped us growing and maturing our knowledge and many still keep those roles for years. so LM know is a conglomerate of how many bought industries, not only directly aircraft related ones? Soon the US will be a monopoly or a "binopoly" between LM and Boeing, if not there already. Cheers.

[@kfx3907]

​@briancrawford69 Even that massive company you just said doesn't make plane by its own lol. Do more research dude..

[@Maddog-xc2zv]

@@kfx3907 It must be real difficult for you to understand things. I said everyone, including individual people, never do things alone as they have mentors and other figures throughout their learning processes and even many times for their entire life. Same applies to even Big Corps. And I do my homework and many of those companies are subsidiary to the massive companies. Don't float on the unreal world you just want to see, be grounded and see the entire picture before spiting non sense. Redo classes of text interpretation and be objective and factual without cult based dogmatic truths you build in your no so sparkling head. Go bother people which, like you, imo are unable to think critical as he does it's not of their convenience or simply have some cognitive issues regarding learning and interpret what it's presented to them. Farewell, dear sir. I have more interesting people which whom to dedicate my time to from this paragraph on.

[@NeostormXLMAX]

its a copy of the f-22 lmao

[@bgshin2879]

Great contents. Here are my 2 cents worth; 1. The circumstances of Canberra re imminent military threat and intensity of those threats are different from SKorea. Hence the budgetary and socio-political priority is different shown by the size of the standing military. 2. The video refers ‘such smaller nation’. However, Skorea has larger GDP, double the population and much larger military. 3. SKorea has the world leading high precision engineering industry ranging from steel mills (world 5th), petrochemical (9th), automotive (5th), semiconductor manufacturing (2nd), display (1st), ship building (2nd by tonnage and 1st by value). The industrial and engineering might of SKorea is different from that of India, Turkey or Australia. Hence KF21 is 67% domestic (basically everything other than engines) whereas if you are to build all these engineering and industrial capabilities, it would be more expensive, will take longer and there is no guarantee it will succeed. 4. SKorea MoD acquisition program is very different from other countries. The intellectual property rights of any system developed under gov funding is kept by the gov. Hence, the budgetary allocation and development follow strict gov guidelines. This created many gov R&D institutes and brought in the entire academia to support such development using gov R&D funding. SKorean model streamlines and enhances the countries entire R&D efforts into its projects (which in turn leads industry innovation and competitiveness on the global stage). 5. F2 is largely regarded as a moderate success (otherwise there would have been exports) and FX (Shin Shin) was a catastrophic failure (hence the testing was cut short). There has not been a single sales of Japanese aircrafts on international stage after a concerted efforts from Japanese gov. Whereas T50 and its variants are operational in 9 countries. It is not clear if Australia has all these.

[@georgesikimeti2184]

Australia is a sleeping giant,it only awakes when under threat,$350 billion on nuclear submarines just like that,biggest reserve of lithium minerals just to name a few,the proper resources are there,just need little threat then …….

[@user-kz6fd8ux4y]

agree

[@snowlee-ml7rr]

As a Chinese, I agree with you. East Asian countries are generally undervalued. If South Korea were placed in Europe, it would be at least one of the top four countries in terms of overall strength, and its war capabilities would rank among the top three in Europe. Unfortunately, South Korea is in East Asia, and its neighbors are all the most powerful countries in the world, such as the United States, China, Russia and Japan. Moreover, North Korea is not as weak as the outside world thinks. The North Korean army is the largest in the world, and the number of artillery is no less than that of China and Russia.

[@user-vd1nx5bh9q]

반도체 제조기술 역시도 압도적 1위 입니다. 위탁생산 죽 euv에서 대만뒤에 있을뿐 입니다. 위탁생산 분야도 조만간 따라 잡을것 같습니다. 삼성이 EUV에도 집중투자가 2년전부터 시작됐기 때문입니다.

[@user-FULLJohnson]

@@user-vd1nx5bh9q 반도체 지금 뒤쳐진지가 언젠데 아직도 과거에 살고있네.. 대만이 지금 압도적 1위다... 기사좀 읽어라

[@tedzehnder961]

It`s very important for the USA (IMO) to have partners that don`t have to be dependent for their protection. They`ve come a long way in 70 years.Pretty smooth sailing as a trading partner as well.

[@chukim8012]

Korea doesn't rely on the US for defense. Not for the past 40 years. What we are now is a tribute paying vassal state.

[@Kampfgruppe9260]

The K-21 starts as a 4.5 generation fighter to avoid being criticized for overlapping with the U.S. stealth aircraft market, but its ultimate goal is a 6th generation fighter.

[@Bluewater78]

The Americans initially did not authorize the integration of the AMRAAM and the latest variant of the AIM-9X with the KF-21 because they said such systems are not provided to airframes under development. This is the main reason why Seoul opted for the Meteor and the AIM-2000. Since then the US did an about-face and said it will allow its air-to-air weapons to be used on the jet. Another development is that S. Korea has officially said it will produce its own short-range AAM and an indigenous fighter engine that may be used on the KF-21 and possibly next-generation jet trainer and light attack jet. News reports said the AAM will be similar to the AIM-9X with the engine being on par or slightly more powerful than the GE414 licensed-built in Korea for the KF-21. South Korea has been license-building jet engines for decades so it has the general know-how while a local company even started building huge industrial-grade turbines for thermal power plants that can be used on jet turbofan engines. FYI Seoul operates some 430 combat jets and if you count the jet trainers that can be used in limited air-to-ground and air-to-air roles, the total rises to around 500.

[@rosevitelli5814]

So let me ask you this my friend if this plane is so good why did South Korea just bought 20 more block4 F35 if they had confidence in this plane they would not be purchasing more F35 ✌️✌️✌️✌️✌️🙏💪💪💪

[@rosevitelli5814]

No but South Korea just purchased 20more F35 block 4 wonder why😂😂😂😂

[@stupidburp]

KF-21 provides large firepower, limited stealth. F-35 provides deep stealth, limited firepower. They complement each other. That is why they are buying both.

[@Maddog-xc2zv]

@@rosevitelli5814 different roles. have you even saw the video? nop, for sure. the kf.21 does not replace the f-35, but is somewhere between it and the F-16. Geez, slow minds...

[@JS-zv3yw]

F-35A and KF-21 are not in the same league. The F-35 is bleeding edge! It will do the precision bombing of air defense system and neutralize command and control and maybe sweep the skies of N. Korean fighters, at least in the early stages of a conflict. The KF-21 will do the heavy lifting and mundane tasks of existing fighters once the North air defense system has been degraded. This is important because the F-35 is very expensive to fly. If the Americans are struggling with operational cost think what it would mean for S. Korea and other smaller nations. It makes sense to buy the F-35 but for Seoul, these planes should only be used when it is really needed and for training the pilots. It would be folly to use F-35s as interceptors against antiquated N. Korean MIGs or maintain regular CAPs over Korea particularly in peace time. FYI S. Korea has always maintained some 120 top-of-the-line US fighters with the rest of its fighter fleet being less capable fighters like the F-16C/Ds, F-5E/Fs, and the soon-to-be phased-out F-4E. The KF-21 is eminently suitable for replacing the F-16s, F-5s, and F-4s once they reach the end of their serviceable life. To emphasize the KF-21 does not compete with the F-35 but acts as an affordable backup and I think most air forces around the world need this kind of high-low mix.

[@brealistic3542]

I bet this is a excellent fighter. South Korean engineering is outstanding.

[@Shadowboost]

Going from concept to flying prototypes and firing missiles in 11 years is insane for such a small aerospace industry. This aircraft very much is in the same vein of China's FC-31. Korea jumped a generation ahead in a decade.

[@floycewhite6991]

Insane as in you'd have to be crazy to believe this propaganda.

[@ThePrimordialArchon]

They are incredible engineers and they had help from lockheed martin so it makes sense why they just jumped ahead so quickly

[@floycewhite6991]

@@ThePrimordialArchon Apparently you never worked in an aircraft factory and have no idea how many thousands of parts come from hundreds of suppliers. All of those suppliers have R&D departments which rely on major universities for theoretical and practical discoveries. While Toshiba was happy to sell the Soviets its latest transistors in the post-WWII environment, Japan is unlikely to hand over cutting-edge research to Korea today. Same for Sweden, France, or other regional powers. And renting time at Lockheed's computer isn't the same as Lockheed surrendering all its proprietary or military secrets.

[@thunderpants0]

yeah copy and paste

[@Shadowboost]

@@thunderpants0 bunch of experts in the comment section. I actually work in this industry and know what it takes to design, test, and fly these things. Yeah, obviously it's "inspired" by the F-22. But there is not a single panel on there that's on a F-22

[@jorgemancilla1416]

Sur Corea is one of the most powerful countries now day, they had making extraordinary job!

[@samtani278]

The KF-21 Boramae's not a fifth generation fighter. But. It opened up the options for Korean Aircraft Industries to make his own fifth or sixth generation fighter.

[@stupidburp]

Boramae is a 5th gen fighter without an internal bay. Su-57 is a 4th gen fighter with an internal bay. Boramae has avionics directly derived from the F-35 under license. It has stealthy shaping that includes serpentine engine intakes. The choice of external weapons is a feature not a bug. It is essentially replicating the role of a “beast mode” F-35 with similar level of stealth and firepower but at lower operational costs.

[@stupidburp]

Put it another way: is an F-35 no longer 5th gen when the users opt to carry external weapons? No. It degrades the effectiveness of stealth but provides more firepower in trade off.

[@rgloria40]

And the little brother Korean KAI F50 has shot down a F22 in war games....

[@Techno_Idioto]

@@rgloria40 Which isn't an accomplishment considering the U.S actively stacks the deck against itself in order to purposefully lose, which gives it far more useful information than winning single-handedly and showing its hand to enemies.

[@SmoochyRoo]

@@Techno_Idioto precisely, a lot of people don't realize (because the media never tells this) that the US always does these exercises under the absolute most hideous conditions possible. Nerfing the F-22 to the point a freaking eurofighter can out-turn it and not allowing BVR. If it was an actual combat scenario the F-22 wouldn't even have appeared on radar.

[@user-km3oj7qu9z]

인도네시아는 공동개발이라는 계약을 해놓고 수년째 돈을 지급하지않고 있습니다. 더 황당한것은 인도네시아측에선 한국이 계약을 이행안한다고 오히려 한국에게 덮어 씌우고 있습니다. 이래서 개발도상국과는 거래를 하면 안된다는것을 이번에 다시한번 깨달았습니다. 호주같은 동맹국이자 선진국과 협력개발을 했으면 서로 win-win 하는 결과를 얻었을텐데 아쉽습니다.

[@unplugged123]

i really like the strategy the Koreans are implementing. The US builds the Ferraris of warplanes like with the F22and F35s while the Koreans builds the Toyota Corollas of warplanes. Small, affordable, competent, highly durable and abundant.

[@chiefkeef74]

F35 is a Pontiac Fiero compared to the F22

[@jhkim8573]

As many others have already mentioned, the KF-21 project does not place importance on having full stealth. Korea has already purchased a number of F-35s. And even if the KF-21 is successfully developed, it cannot replace the F-35 and was not developed with that intention. In fact, there has been debate about how effective the stealth function will be in Northeast Asia, where radar networks are densely located, and for this reason, the Korean Air Force seems to think that maintaining an air advantage at the risk of some casualties is a more important strategic goal than performing a stealth raid. Of course, this idea is not aimed at North Korea, but at the potential risk of dealing with China or Japan. KF-21 is a aircraft that reflects the requirements that are considered optimal given this strategic situation. For example, the importance of BVR is the latest trend, but KF-21 is designed with a focus on mobility, which is a close combat capability. It is doubtful to explain that this is simply because it was designed as an air superiority aircraft. Of course, some argue that mobility is still important in BVR combat. However, it must be pointed out that the mobility of the KF-21s, which has been disclosed so far, goes far beyond this necessity. And it can be understood from this perspective that the Korean Air Force insisted on choosing a twin-engine aircraft because survival is important. Of course, twin-engine aircraft require much higher costs than single-engine aircraft. Nevertheless, it seems reasonable to assume that Korea, which is sensitive to rising costs, chose this design for reasons. Unfortunately, the KF-21 was built on the assumption of a battlefield in which a desperate struggle was fought, and this assumption was established because it was difficult for Korea to dominate over other countries in Northeast Asia. Naturally, it looks very different from the US war, which begins with a war by driving an aircraft carrier to another country and hitting it from a long distance.

[@user-gr9ov3jb9y]

Recently, an Indonesian engineer was arrested for trying to steal technology without permission. Additionally, the Indonesian government has still not paid its share in full.

[@mhmdiqball9879]

Yes, and even now the evidence has not been found 😂

[@user-gu4cp2nu5d]

@@mhmdiqball9879 인도네시아에 대한 감정이 안좋다...분담금도 안내고..거지 국가 인도네시아

[@YantoHari-tn7lf]

​@@user-gu4cp2nu5dkami akan membayarnya dengan minyak goreng agar orang Korea bisa menggoreng daging anjing

[@leonardlee8652]

It's your fault entirely to be partner with Indonesians in the first place. lol

[@KWP-vu6iy]

​@@mhmdiqball9879 Yes, it was. The engineer was caught trying to smuggle a USB containing sensitive information through the security checkpoint. Another question is how that was possible, as USB devices are not supposed to be usable with any of the devices in KAI facilities. This incident also raised suspicion of an accomplice.

[@jeremymcguire7069]

Seeing the KF-21 for the first time, it looks like a hell of a fighter. Something like an f16 if it was designed today.

[@davidbeare730]

If Poland is interested Korean aircraft it sugests that they like their new Korean artillary. Good Post! Informative.

[@rickbase833]

The company I worked for in the early 2010s did a lot of business with ROKAF via direct commercial sales. South Korean companies like LG and Samsung have big defense units. Since the KF-21 has very striking similarities to the F-22 it's confirmed that the US State Department gave Lockheed permission to consult with ROKAF and provide engineering support via something known as an export license. Unlike China......which steals or copies data to build its fighters (just ask Sukhoi and Lockheed), ROKAF is building and indigenous fighter while getting the right support from low observable experts like Lockheed. The KF-21 needs to have internal bays though as external weapons loadouts increase the aircraft's radar cross section.

[@PiDsPagePrototypes]

Boeing was mentioned early in the video.

[@ggoddkkiller1342]

The aircraft is too small to have internal bays, for example Turkish version of KF-X is significantly larger with internal bays. I've never understood why they tried to keep a twin engine plane small and didn't make a single engine version..

[@justinski9763]

@@ggoddkkiller1342 phase 3 of the kf-21 is planned to have internal weapons bay.

[@7mmalltheway]

⁠@@ggoddkkiller1342Korea already has expensive 35A and 15K(will be EX equivalent)s. The country needs to replace F-5, F-4s ASAP and F-16s(early version) in the near future. The plane already has some empty capacity for the weapon bay for the future variant. But you are right, it will accommodate a small amount of weapons due to it’s nature. But Korea benchmarked flexible mission objectives of F-35’s. Full stealth mission is not always needed and KF-21 is not supposed to be Korea’s flagship fighter jet.

[@ggoddkkiller1342]

@@7mmalltheway If the goal is having a cheap work horse it actually makes sense. F-16 doesn't excel in any aspect at all but it can do everything and it has pretty much unmatched cost effectiveness apart from drones. And KF-21 is better than F-16 for sure so it would work but the thing i don't understand a single engine version could be even better for both having internal bays and more cost effectiveness. Perhaps it was adding too much cost for developing a single engine version..

[@himat007]

Many thanks for the excellent coverage.

[@bryanj3521]

What about repalcement of partnership from Indonesian to Austrailian? Austrailian is so much reliable than Inni.

[@Jordy120]

Yep! Keep uploading/making this sort of content as well as your regular episodes. Cheers.

[@brianv1988]

It is a very beautiful aircraft and it looks very capable remind me of a F-22 little brother it's definitely going to be a awesome jet

[@CircuitBoardcokr]

Austrailians came to protect our people. one boy, who lost his parents during the Korean War, had been included among them. the boy is my grandfather. thank you for all UN personnels who served in the theater.

[@matthewjones5289]

Excellent mini doc as usual. Keep it up :)

[@lukerickert5203]

It is often overlooked but Boeing (and presumably other foreign companies) has been training Korean companies such as KAI and their engineers in the process and details of designing and producing aircraft. There were many of their people cycled through Boeing in the US and cooperation on the ground in Korea. This was on the commercial side but much experience was gained in how to design and produce composite structure, and perhaps more usefully, logistics, organization and testing/certification which really are a huge part of the real world production.

[@bangmo7]

It was LM, not Boeing. When SK chose F-35 in 2013, LM promised to support SK to develop its indigenous 4.5 generation fighter.

[@lukerickert5203]

You need to read a bit more carefully, I didn't say anything about the current project, I am addressing the source of the knowledge and experience with Korean aircraft development in general. The same can be said about KHI, MHI and FHI in Japan.

[@lukerickert5203]

​@@bangmo7I would add calling a plane with foreign engines and likely foreign electronics "domestic" is stretching the definition a bit.

[@michaellim4165]

@@lukerickert5203 Show us your proof.

[@georgesikimeti2184]

Yeah,the engine in this jet fighter is GE F414 and the operating systems are also from GE tech.

[@sonofagun1037]

Considering how the KF-21 looks I do wonder how stealthy it would be if propperly coated in RAM.

[@user-vd1nx5bh9q]

얼마전 한국에선 현존 스텔스를 능가하는 스텔스 필름을 개발했습니다.

[@jimwinchester339]

It's actually very wise of South Korea to move away from dependence on US air assets. They now have a short line of external customers for the plane already, Peru being an completely unexpected windfall. As the US$ and the US government's reputation both decay, other countries are going to want alternatives that are not Soviet or Chinese. So I'd say S. Korea is very much on the ball here.

[@jamiemcbride4226]

As far as the reputation of the united states deteriorating is over blown BS ,sure the Biden administration has been one of the worst disasters in American history but our allies understand that , if we have some countries who only love us when it’s warm and sunny they will regret not having us when it’s cold and bleak

[@_Epsilon_]

This plane probably has tons of US parts though.

[@maadi77]

well S Korea is still US technology transferred, The koreans don' reinvent, just borrow and size-down. Same with the Turks also, access to western tech by virtue of being a NATO ally. A case in point is their alliance with BAE systems to develp TFX. Both koreans and turks are at the mercy of west when it comes to defense sale.

[@user-bx9bk8bj7t]

a nation with the nicest, bravest, smart civilization on Earth

[@bima155]

The rudest, rac1st on earth

[@user-jh7vw4zm2k]

Are you korean??

[@bz-om1pu]

America’s son, Japan’s little brother🤣

[@allenz2922]

call American Daddy for help ,no ,you lose you courage to your brother

[@user-bx9bk8bj7t]

You don't have manners in your parents' country?@@bz-om1pu

[@yongohkim1315]

nternational aircraft parts companies are participating in KF-21. Lockheed Martin has been involved since the T-50 advanced trainer. In the KF-21, Korea developed the four core technologies and 29 technologies that were denied approval by the U.S. Congress, and Lockheed Martin only plays an advisory role in the design. So Lockheed Martin is Korea’s official partner company. Joint marketing of the Korean T-50 was conducted for the U.S. Air Force's advanced trainer project, and the KF-21 was also mentioned in an interview with Lockheed Martin's vice president for Asia. Officially, the F-22, F-35, and KF-21 have Lockheed Martin design DNA, and other fighters are copies.

[@undaijoubunii-chan586]

Korea is truly incredible love from the Philippines

[@zerorisekie1638]

Among the contracts between Lockheed Martin and KAI are as follows. FA-50 has a constraint that it cannot exceed the latest F-16 specification. So the FA-50 has its limits. However, the FA-50 is a cost-effectiveness and has a full role to play. Very powerful as a 5th generation pilot training, proximity support, and small multi-roll fighter. It must be a very useful aircraft for both training and practice. Armed forces are also evolving. In Block 2 AIM-9 Sidewinder AIM-7 Sparrow AGM-65 Maverick IRIS-T KEPD 350K-2 AIM-120 AMRAAM It will be armed. What is unusual is that the Korean-made AESA Radar is better than the US-made Radar with performance limits. However, due to the inherent limitations of FA-50, it seems to be impossible to mount. However, KF-21 has no constraints. This is because Korea has developed core technologies such as AESA Radar, IRST, EOTGP, and RF Jammer. The interior armament is also under development and the MUM-T system is also under development. We're testing to control three drones with wingmen It is being developed as a multi-purpose fighter with more than five generations at the same time as the development of internal armoured windows. The AESA radar developed by Korea is a gallium nitride material and is powerful. It is currently used in Korean Aegis destroyers, M-SAMs, and L-SAMs. Gallium oxide materials that are much more powerful than gallium nitride materials are also being developed. Korea has strong EMP technology. RF-Jammer is also very powerful. It will reach NGJ-MB performance enough. IRST is currently on board the frigate and in use. EO-TGP is already applied to FA-50. Core equipment is constantly being upgraded with the development of new technologies. KF-21 Boramae is the name of a falcon when its young is raised for hunting. Boramae is called the Little Raptor, but in the near future, it will evolve into the fifth and sixth generation fighter jets that will shine on itself. I hope you will pay a lot of attention to KF-21.

[@justlim622]

People from Philippines are incredible

[@unplugged123]

I bet you anything that plane is more closer to a 5th gen fighter than you think. The Koreans are probably marketing it as "4.5 gen" to avoid stepping on the toes of American defense contractors such as Lockheed who is a key partner in creating this plane.

[@IbocC64]

Uhh, this looks more like an F22 than an F35. Very cool.

[@notanymore9471]

It looks kinda like a hybrid between the two to me……

[@tigerthyssen3313]

@@notanymore9471 Either way looks pretty nice

[@notanymore9471]

@@tigerthyssen3313 definitely the Koreans are savvy

[@AsianDudeX01]

The South Koreans had engineers from Lockheed Martin come over and help with the design so it's kinda' not surprising it looks like an F-22

[@user-oe3lo4rq8w]

@@AsianDudeX01 It's basically a copy then

[@garryclelland4481]

good video , clever , logical and well reasoned conclusion , liked and subbed

[@shanefanon]

Informative. Well done. Thank you.

[@maxasaurus3008]

Great video, it’s exciting to see what everyone is working on.

[@user-ji4nc6pv4c]

Could be an interesting aircraft for smaller European nations provided the KF-21 shows decent capabilities and has relatively low operating costs and purchase price. We in Switzerland have still 30 FA-18s C/D (from initially 34, delivered between 1996-98) and 26 F-5 E/F Tiger II (from initially 110, delivered in the late 70s) in service. These will be replaced by 36 F-35 A between 2027-2030. As per current plans, these will be the only fighter jets left in the Swiss inventory. But why not supplement the F-35 with a light fighter (e.g. 24 KF-21s) to bolster our air defence and take over some roles from the F-35? A plane like the KF-21 could have a niche market in such a role...

[@kfx3907]

High-Middle combination is a must.

[@technocracy90]

That also is the exact role of KF-21 for the Korean Ariforce. A lot of armchair airforce generals on the internet often forget you need to back up the high capability elite fighters with cheaper, but many fighters. F-15 was backed up by F-16, and in some countries F-16 was by F-5. Even the famous/notorious F-35 was designed to back F-22 up with its inferior-but-cheap^TM capabilities. KF-21 is not to replace nor compete with F-35, but to support them.

[@Pepe-dq2ib]

I rather get F15 to backup the F35, its proven and just as capable if not more.

[@technocracy90]

@Pepe-dq2ib if you do not consider low observability and a room for more evolution, sure. However, if that's your criteria, you don't even need the F-35 in the first place. F-15 would do everything that F-35 can do in much bigger volume at much lower cost. If you wanna back F-35 up with anything, that means you need stealth or at least low observability, which F-15 is inherently limited and barely has any room to be better. F-15 are a superb option to back F-35 up if you already have them, no doubt, but not a solid choice for those who don't have them yet.

[@Pepe-dq2ib]

@@technocracy90 KF21 is not a backup for F35 either, you are clearly overrating its stealth and cross section. Kai doesnt have the same paint, a weapons bay or heat deflectors like F-35. The upgrade ability you keep claiming means nothing without a weapons bay and theres no way to add it.

[@JS-zv3yw]

Since the F-5E/Fs in S.Korean service only has short-range AAMs and light ground attack capabilities only Block 1s are more than adequate as they will have BVR air-to-air capabilities. My guess is that as the platform matures and becomes a true multi-role jet they will help phase out the 130+ KF-16s built under licence in S.Korea.

[@user-ls5zb2dx5j]

They are going to do a weapons bay in block 2 aircraft and improved stealth, then in block 3 air to ground, they are developing this aircraft better than the f35 by doing everything all at once and look at all the problems they have had with the f36, over 800 tech problems, south Korea is doing it better and smarter.

[@meyenxhin6891]

Among 40s of180s KF16C/D has done upgrade to F16V. And 40s of KF16C/D would be upgrade to F16V now. No need to decommissioned soon.

[@user-cc9rx7oe8d]

The f-16c version held by the Korean Air Force is currently undergoing an upgrade to the f-16v version. In addition, all the f-15k aircraft will be upgraded to the f-15ex specification. Therefore, apart from the actual deployment of the f-21, there is no reason for the f-16 and f-15 owned by the Korean Air Force to be retired in the near future.

[@JessSimpson1313]

This is a really great video. I've seen a whole lot on the South Korean bill. I look forward to seeing what new models of 5th generation airplanes are capable of.

[@luckydp]

Very good report. Thank you.

[@TheHjjin]

UAE wants to join the development of KF-21 block 2, and Saudi would like to invest in the development of 6th generation fighter jet with S. Korea.

[@johnwatts312]

That was fascinating 👍

[@luckytronc2083]

I really enjoy this keep up the amazing work

[@PaulieLDP]

You have to respect the accomplishments of South Korean industry.

[@floycewhite6991]

Hmm... no I don't. Wasn't all that long ago South Korea was a tin pot military dictatorship.

[@cashcash5995]

A protectorate country does not need a super jet .

[@kfx3907]

​@@cashcash5995Are you Chinese?

[@kfx3907]

​@@cashcash5995That is just dumbest comment i've seen on the internet today.

[@niceguy76]

There was no problem between China and SK, instead North Korea. @@kfx3907

[@michaelw7800]

Looks close to the F-22. Great job S Korea!!

[@zerorisekie1638]

Among the contracts between Lockheed Martin and KAI are as follows. FA-50 has a constraint that it cannot exceed the latest F-16 specification. So the FA-50 has its limits. However, the FA-50 is a cost-effectiveness and has a full role to play. Very powerful as a 5th generation pilot training, proximity support, and small multi-roll fighter. It must be a very useful aircraft for both training and practice. Armed forces are also evolving. In Block 2 AIM-9 Sidewinder AIM-7 Sparrow AGM-65 Maverick IRIS-T KEPD 350K-2 AIM-120 AMRAAM It will be armed. What is unusual is that the Korean-made AESA Radar is better than the US-made Radar with performance limits. However, due to the inherent limitations of FA-50, it seems to be impossible to mount. However, KF-21 has no constraints. This is because Korea has developed core technologies such as AESA Radar, IRST, EOTGP, and RF Jammer. The interior armament is also under development and the MUM-T system is also under development. We're testing to control three drones with wingmen It is being developed as a multi-purpose fighter with more than five generations at the same time as the development of internal armoured windows. The AESA radar developed by Korea is a gallium nitride material and is powerful. It is currently used in Korean Aegis destroyers, M-SAMs, and L-SAMs. Gallium oxide materials that are much more powerful than gallium nitride materials are also being developed. Korea has strong EMP technology. RF-Jammer is also very powerful. It will reach NGJ-MB performance enough. IRST is currently on board the frigate and in use. EO-TGP is already applied to FA-50. Core equipment is constantly being upgraded with the development of new technologies. KF-21 Boramae is the name of a falcon when its young is raised for hunting. Boramae is called the Little Raptor, but in the near future, it will evolve into the fifth and sixth generation fighter jets that will shine on itself. I hope you will pay a lot of attention to KF-21.

[@sonnyburnett8725]

Great video!

[@JJANGLSKJFLAK]

2023 ADEX에서 실제로 KF-21을 보았습니다. 이륙거리가 굉장히 짧을걸 보면 추력이 굉장할거 같습니다.

[@honshin23]

기체 크기가 항공모함에 탑재된 F/A-18과 비슷해서 그런 거... 그만큼 기체가 작아서 내부 무장이 가능한지 아닌지 장담 못함... 미티어는 내부 무장이 불가능할거임.

[@HighAltitudesCO]

Good Job SK, that's a damn nice plane.

[@Homoprimatesapiens]

Bravo and congratulations for South Korea on this marvel a.c. All the compromises are just excellent. I am sure the price tag will be just as perfect.

[@grimreaper3576]

I like the documentary new sub here looking forward to watch more interesting topics from you

[@kwh1871]

Lockheed Martin has observed the development of the KF-21 but has not been directly involved in the development, according to my knowledge. A Lockheed Martin official reportedly praised Korean developers after the prototype was created, saying, "It's amazing. We didn't think you could do it, and we didn't know you would pull this off," as stated by the chief developer of the KF-21 after retiring.

[@jipark_2373]

KF-21은 록히드마틴으로부터 설계관련 많은것을 의존하여 탄생한 기체입니다.. 일부 핵심부품과 관련된 기술은 미국정부로부터 차단되어 제공받지 못했지만 스텔스기로서 항공역학에 관련된 기본적인 기체 설계기술들이 록히드마틴으로부터 이전된 것으로 보입니다.. 그것은 한국이 초기 F-35를 구매할때 록히드마틴과 맺은 협정과 관련 있습니다.. T-50도 록히드마틴으로부터 기술이전을 통해 제조된 것이죠.. 수십년간 KF-16을 면허생산하고 T-50을 제조하면서 항공기술력이 발전하긴 하였으나 아무것도 없는 상태에서 전혀 다른 형상의 스텔스기를 만든다는 것은 어렵고 특히 이런 단기간에 실패없이 계획된 일정에 맞추어 성공을 거듭할수 있는것은 KF-21의 제조에 록히드마틴이 관여했음을 증명해주는 것이죠.. 록히드마틴은 자신들이 전투기의 기본 설계기술을 전해주어도 이정도로 단기간에 한국이 개발을 할것이라고는 미처 생각하지 못했을 것입니다.. 즉, 기술을 줘도 너희들은 계획된 일정대로 절대 개발하지 못할것이라고 판단한 것이죠.. 그 판단을 훨씬 뛰어넘었을 뿐입니다

[@12733s]

Except for the fact that lockheed sold/transferred 24+ key F35 technologies to KAI, so yea their design team didn't work on the plane but they certainly sold them a shit load of design documentation that those engineers worked on.

[@user-vz8nx9ur1b]

@@jipark_2373 록히드마틴 담당자 관련 인터뷰는 많이 있습니다.. 엔지니어 및 관리팀장 인터뷰 찾아보세요.. 록히드마틴은 직접적인 관혀 할수 없습니다.. KAI는 각 파트별 최소 5년 이상 경력자를 요청 하였고.. 참관 & 문의[YES/NO] 답변만 했답니다.

[@jipark_2373]

@@user-vz8nx9ur1b 록히드마틴은 당연히 부정하겠죠.. 국방기술, 특히 최첨단 항공기 기술이전을 정부 허가없이 했다고 말할수는 없으니까요.. 한국이 4대 핵심기술을 이전해주길 강력히 요청했지만 미의회의 반대로 불허가 되었다는건 여러차례 언론에 보도된바 있죠.. 그렇다면 그 핵심기술 이외의 기술들은 일정부분 록히드마틴으로부터 이전되었다는걸 의미합니다.. 그건 한국정부와 록히드마틴간의 F-35 구매협정에 계약내용으로 포함되어 있던 것이죠.. 그래서 한국정부에서 록히드에게 항공기의 첨단 핵심기술 이전을 요구할수 있었던 것이죠.. 그렇지 않다면 기술 이전을 요구할 수도 없고 미의회가 허가 여부를 판단할 필요조차 없었겠죠.. 록히드 측에선 계약상에 기술이전이 포함되어 있었지만 미의회의 이전불가를 핑계로 핵심기술을 이전해 주지 않았던 것이고 나머지 기본적인 기체 설계관련 기술들만 이전해 줬다고 보는것이 합리적이겠죠.. 그러나 록히드측에선 그것조차 부정하는건 당연합니다.. 굳이 기술이전을 해줬다고 떠벌릴 필요는 없으니까요.. F-35 판매의 세부계약내용은 미정부가 직접 관여했던것이 아니고 록히드측에선 그당시 아무도 살려고하지 않았던 미완성 F-35를 팔아먹기 위해 한국에 기술이전을 해주겠다는 과대 광고를 했던것이죠.. 그러므로 처음부터 한국은 핵심기술 이전까지는 바라지 않았을지도 모릅니다.. 그것 이외의 기술만이라도 제대로 받을수 있으면 다행이었고 그게 현재의 KF-21의 순조로운 개발 진행의 주된 요인이라고 볼수도 있습니다..물론 KAI나 한국 항공산업 기술의 발전이 배경이 되었다는 것도 부정할수는 없습니다

[@kwh1871]

During times of peace or localized conflicts, militaries may find highly advanced weapons effective. However, in a large-scale, full-scale war, the quantity of available military resources becomes the most significant variable

[@JS-zv3yw]

Ultimately S. Korea will use the KF-21s as its medium-to-low tier fighter while employing the 60 F-15K and 60 F-35As as its top tier fighters.

[@stupidburp]

A very capable fighter to have as the low end.

[@bigt6665]

@@stupidburp capable nations use capable weapons

[@pdraggy]

I'll say this about S Korea, they sure make some pretty looking fighters.

[@DomenicNicosia-bs8qd]

Great Work well done

[@bryanrussell6679]

I originally thought this was just a baby raptor. But after further review, the overall look is very similar to the F-22, but the wings and tail closer resemble the F-35. Vertical stabilizers are still F-22.

[@tommyjun3895]

That because.. F22 flight program engineer boss was Korean and F22 designed and made by him. Now he working for KF21. and much developed from F22. It's a known secret.

[@j.a.3138]

@@tommyjun3895 wtf are you talking about? The F-22 was designed and developed by the U.S based manufacturing Lockheed Martin in the 1990s by the Americans. You are totally misinformed. Bot

[@thomascooley2749]

I believe the desin brief was build a current strike fighter Something stealthy ish from over the horizon and would allow for a low level strike platform A deep strike multirole is likey its future form

[@donlee4105]

한국 폴란드 호주 이 세나라가 차세대 전투기 공동개발했으면 좋겟네요

[@YantoHari-tn7lf]

Dasar orang rasis

[@HSS_yt]

this is surprisingly similar, in terms of how it started out, with the korean navy's FF-K program. from 1975. Just like the KF-X, the FFK program initiated with having construction experience with only a prototype patrol boat. they managed to produce frigates that met all the rerquirements and serve very cruicial roles for more than 30 years, although they were mechanically unstable and broke down quite a lot.

[@user-tu5vk7qr9b]

호주는 우리의 우방이니 적극적으로 지원해야함! ❤

[@Han-ws8he]

The block 1 (40 crafts) with A-A capability by 2028. And the block 2 (80 crafts) with A-G capability by 2032. And the block 1(40) will be upgraded to block 2 so total of 120 block 2 style will be done by 2032 since there is not much diff in h/w itself between block 1 and 2. It would be only s/w update for A-G capability.

[@bkthompson877]

Mate, well done.

[@pokjunam2163]

I know that the chief executive officer at the time of the f-22 development was Korean. He came to Korea after completing the development, and started a small company, which helped Korea a lot in developing fighter jets. That's why it looks similar to the f-22's. lol After being imprisoned in Cia, the U.S., he is currently being released from prison a year after being imprisoned, his whereabouts are unknown. Korea already has enough technology. It only takes time to implement the technology. That's why I chose a step-by-step approach.

[@jamisonmaguire4398]

If I heard that right that Lockheed is partnering in the design of this aircraft and the fact that it looks astonishingly like the F22 it is going to be a very potent 5th generation weapon indeed. This would also be the ideal aircraft for Canada to build under license after it fulfills its obligation for the induction and fulfillment of its original contract to buy F35's from the USA. The narrator holds out hope that Australia also picks this aircraft to build at home as I have always held out hope for Canada to finally update its aging fleet of CF-18's and do something similar.

[@scottcannell5584]

Thankyou for a great video. Australia should have already been producing it's own aircraft years ago. But policy makers and politicians all have their own engender and short sightedness. I believe we have the skills and technology to produce domestic produced multi role fighter.

[@zorbakaput8537]

We did produce out own fighter long before many other countries were still called 3rd world but manufacturing high tech low volume in Australia is a dead loss when when the primary enemies are overseas vested interests and short sighted local pollies.

[@scottcannell5584]

@@zorbakaput8537 I know we use to produce domestic produced fighter aircraft know as CAC commenwealth aircraft corporation. Produce great aircraft such as the boomerang and warriway. P51 mustang Under licence Beaufort and Beaufighter. And the vampire fighter. Just to name a few. Yes but that has since gone.

[@daniellarge9784]

At WW2s end Australia had the 4th largest airforce in the world. We had a good aircraft industry with excellent R&D. Then we got a Brit to head up the Commonwealth Aircraft Corporation and he said just by British and ruined the Australian aircraft industry single handed.

[@gvibration1]

Any tech resources that could start that up are going to nuclear powered subs.

[@jebise1126]

wait do you mean kangaroo just after ww2? that was kind of obsolete...

[@musico119]

In the fighter jet industries, It has been a common procedure to develop the air to air version first than the multi-roll version. I guess because it take time to integrate all weapon system including the air to ground weapons. I heard that the integration computer programming is an easy task.

[@youcantata]

The KF-21 may not be the best fighter jet on the market. But it is excellent alternative to US F-16, Franch Rafale, or Russian Su-35 in term of value vs total cost of ownership, just like Hyundai or Kia car. F-16 and other fighter jets are rather old design, expensive maintenance cost, no reduced radar cross section (semi-stealth), no sensor integration, limited range and weapon load, no future upgrade plan, etc. KF-21 was designed to address such shortcomings of F-16 once and for all, yet keeping availability high and the maintenance time and cost as low as F-16, suitable for sortie-eater and work horse fighter jet of world air force.

[@Pushing_Pixels]

It would be great to see Australia return to designing and building aircraft. Start with a smaller, cheaper, turboprop maritime patrol aircraft to supplement the big, expensive P-8s. Something that can be forward based on island territories (Xmas, Cocos, Norfolk, Lord Howe) with smaller runways and austere facilities, or just distributed across more of our coast. Then, move onto a light multirole jet that can double as a trainer. By the time its ready it can replace the Hawks. In the event of a war, we probably won't be able to rely on timely replacements for lost F-35s. Being able to locally produce a gap filler, or quick defense in numbers, would be good.

[@LordDigz12]

Ok, some engineer got them to approve As-Raam as the name of their missle. Well played sir