J. Krishnamurti - San Diego 1974 - Conversation 8 - Does pleasure bring happiness?

[@nicfromearth]

i love that there are people out there watching these videos and implementing the essence of them in their life

[@kamaurahamukti5919]

"freedom is not at the end, but at the beginning" BRILLIANT this whole conversation is BRILLIANT. THANK YOU for posting the conversations. in deepest gratitude from Kenya 🙏🏽✨

[@srikotiaryan8888]

such a profound conversation. no doubt about it. it is true , no one talks about these things.

[@JohnCollettVox]

Possibly the BEST video this pit of KZbin has to offer.

[@WhiteMetal_]

And i am saying this here again Interviewer's eyebrows are enlightened 🐼

[@kevinhise9802]

I turn this on an listen to it til I sleep

[@Thought-is-Time]

The way Allan W. Anderson said at the end “Thank you so much” sounded so warm and honest. Beautiful conversation

[@EddieAndMum]

The joy of freedom from something by learning about it is so beautiful. Thanks K foundation for the videos. They are treasures that you've made freely available. The only videos I get to watch without advertisements.

[@ab0ve521]

I replayed this over 15 times

[@elenol1310]

True i even made notes,so important !

[@chrisc9869]

I can play these dialogs for hours and days

[@sushantgoswami9149]

I don't understand one thing JK said we should watch with tremendous attention with all our nerves but how to do that because there will be effort in that can someone please explain????

[@xdude57]

@@sushantgoswami9149 by attention/watch I understand means 'to perceive things' fully. As an analogy, when you open the tap water flows. there's no effort in it ..you just open the channel of perception. That's how I understand it

[@saketsagar2156]

I live that way all my life

[@TommyEfreeti]

With deep gratitude I thank Krishnamurti and his legacy. The man has through sheer wisdom spoken every beautiful observation that has arisen within my mind lately, as thought finally left it in peace.

[@mirzaanas5618]

"Personally I NEVER CONTROL A thing but I watched " Priceless words ❤️❤️

[@priyagunaraj6919]

Such a beautiful conversation ❤

[@AnthonyHoward-ru8su]

To have my desire to listen to Krishnamurti satisfied has become conditioned as a pleasure which is always new

[@Anonymous-the-band]

Allan Anderson's Eyebrows are Marvelous.....!!

[@Neti-Netti]

Thank you 🙏 it’s a rainbow 🌈 Krishna Ji is so sharp and going along with the two of them is a delight 🥰

[@smile4today1]

Wow 🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼understanding our thought function and how thought movement leads us into creating pleasures, and steals genuine enjoyment, joy of simple things. Thank you for sharing K video , for all us . ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🌎

[@elijahpetrov9346]

Why is it so hard for me to act adequately and remain sane when there is somebody around?

[@srikantramasubban3777]

One of the most profound conversations

[@siddhartha0]

'Why is there so much noise about nothing' Marvellous!

[@Absolutely-nothing80]

JK sir says “ personally I have never controlled a thing but I have watched it. The watching is its own discipline and its own action. When you see something why should you control? Why do you control when you see a poisonous bottle in the shelf. You don’t control it. You simply don’t touch it. It’s only when I don’t read the sign properly, when I see and think it is a sweet I then take it. But if I see it read the label I don’t touch it drink it. Whats is there to control. To see appetite see desire to see the implications the structure of pleasure and there is no relation to enjoyment and joy, to see all that to see, it is not verbally but actually through observation through attention through care, through seeing that brings an extraordinary quality of intelligence. That intelligence comes in observation.” This Is by far the best dialogue I have ever heard. Thank u 🙏

[@jom8592]

One of the best Videos out there🙏. I dont know what it is but as soon as i started telling people around me about the facts, i realized through K's talks, i feel like they think iam crazy and turn away from me. How can one not want to explore the nature of all of this. Everyone uses the words like love and relationship and so on but rarely one questions the meaning of it.

[@potaraju92]

I had a strange notion that the man who was conversing might not be paying attention to what JK has to say, but after watching this video, I must say that the man understood the depth of what JK has to say more than I.

[@elenol1310]

So true! He is one one those rare people, along with D.Bohm , that truly grasped the significance of Ks words. I love how is actaully eager to learn smh new and to cast off old ideas.

[@radhakrishnanmanickavasaga124]

Very profound and beautiful conversation

[@weaamkhalid2478]

THANK YOU🙏💞🌷

[@shamsuka-bx2vf]

Thank you

[@Olga8888]

Thank you.

[@sooryas3125]

Thank you, priceless 🙏

[@satgurunarayana9911]

No words for such intelligence. In very simple straightforward. Why peoples saying that j.k is hard to be understanding. And if it is ,it means you yourself are very hard to understanding yourself.otherwise,j.k is not other . He is like our parents siblings friends and more than that a real human being . A true sage . How can I stop me to call him master,even it is against him. Master!!!

[@pratik6342]

Thank you 🍀

[@CertifiedPsychiatrist]

Spirituality, blah blah blah; his (Alan) eyebrows are magnificent. Obviously I thought and think these conversations are fantastic and maybe one should start a discord for conversations like these to be had today.

[@oshozen5730]

World Class from krishnarmuti

[@thewayofbeauty5731]

Beautiful!

[@renukatandon7463]

so beautiful

[@kantrajk277]

So profound!!! Thank you ❤️

[@hajeradli3464]

Wonderfull 🙏❤️

[@mariechong7280]

When the seer becomes the seeing ; intelligence flows !

[@gagak1557]

I listen to krishna ji, I want to listen him more and more, is it the demand for pleasure which I feel while listening him

[@kowsarragee7357]

I don’t think that is,if you’re learning about your self while listening.But that was a great question.

[@jiteshbhojwani6581]

Have you changed?

[@shubhamagarwal5181]

It's a form of discipline as you are learning the movement of thought.

[@BamBhole1]

Jolly good 😀

[@maheshkb9781]

21:23 Unless mind understand the nature of thinking mere control has nothing to do. 31:26 Development of capacity and perception.

[@purohitchintan66]

Truly magnificent

[@jeffdavis1780]

I love these talks. But I feel badly for Dr Anderson.

[@dawidwenderski9097]

Why badly? Im at this time going to part 9. I watched out many o K things, but only with this converstaion i finally understand what "watching without creating observer 'I must watch' " means.

[@JohnCollettVox]

I am envious of Dr. Anderson. In fact I feel he was able to absolutely digest K in a very real well. These are some of the best conversations i’ve ever witnessed.

[@ritesharora6032]

feel bad for yourself first

[@sylviagung1007]

K says, "Start from freedom. Attention is not to be practiced, cultivated. Do we attend to anything at all? To read this extraordinary map of our life -- Responsibility, Relationships, Order, Fear, Pleasure ... To see what is as is, including myself, to see what I am, I have to understand myself, because the whole history is within me. And in pleasure, there is infinite lot to learn through attention... with care and affection ... a jewel in hand. And it is right to live with the company of wise...." ... Do I? ... Am I ...? A says, "We say things we don't know what that means..." ... We are talking machines. A brings in the goddess of speech from Veda, who never appears except among friends." .... ! ... Talking to could be only among friends, and the rest is communicated through simple observation ...?

[@alcosmic]

These dialogues need to be performed by young actors in a modern, interesting context

[@bhuwan.chaturvedi]

❤

[@sophiyapoudel9164]

😍

[@maludabuddha4507]

When intellect is concered there is no man like him 🤔🤔

[@saytas8302]

His eyebrows distract me😂

[@beezee7691]

Where the place in the universe we are in it

[@anjusagar5659]

🙏🙏🙏

[@theuofs]

Pleasure brings happiness for as long as the pleasure lasts for the moment pleasure wanes (and perhaps pain takes its place or, more likely, returns), we are unhappy. Ultimately, however, neither is sustainable because the human body is incapable of maintaining pleasure sensations indefinitely.

[@OrdinaryPersonah]

i feel like when i draw or animate, i seem to have no self awareness sometimes while i draw. so there is no observer(analyser) there to register. and it never becomes persuit of pleasure for me even though i enjoy it alot. is this what he is talking about. but krishnamurti is actually talking about being that attentive in all aspects of life, where there is no registration, therefore no pleasure and no pain. but we are not full attentive all the time because most of the times , the observer is there.

[@taracair]

So it turns out thought is a product of the past. 10:49

[@rickeshpatel4025]

Go and investigate apply to your own life! Otherwise this is just a plaything

[@annhaglund2624]

☺️

[@nvxiada4360]

i'm a little bit inpatient when the Dr. talking, because he always say things with unrealated words, i think he was a little bit nervous about if he don't know how to ansewr K's questions

[@hydragamermv3052]

yeah me too, but then i just beeing attentive and listening.

[@whocares6218]

same... he was thinking of something wise to say.. i wish he just listened and shut up..

[@ThomasMayer123-f8f]

You can follow? guys

[@Light-kp3re]

Je ne peux-être que moi-même.

[@JazevoAudiosurf]

I think I had an insight into death. I believe what happens is that your superficial desires for e.g. food or sex are NOT the cause you are reborn. for the simple reason that your body is gone and that desire can't be transferred to your 'soul' or your deeper, bodyless identification. the reason you are reborn is the sum of your deepest identifications, which is for me the desire for company, the belief that there is true purpose in feeling joy with others, in contrast to feeling joy alone. there is no way in hell that the desire for food is the reason you get reborn. so the desire IN life can be completely decoupled from the desire that you STILL have without a body. so the desire in life hinders the awareness, but it is not the real problem to solve. the real, deepest problem to solve, is the desire that you have without the body. so find out what that is.

[@Manuel-zz1nz]

29:30 45:44 54:35

[@whocares6218]

hearing dr anderson's comments was painful. he was all over. not the right interviewer. he only disturbs and does not add anything to the conversation.

[@mehdishishehbor5945]

He has satan eyebrows and an angel heart. :)

[@freedomorder9707]

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[@uelideschwert8914]

❤

[@ramongomez8849]

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[@preethikrao]

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[@Shunya_Advait]

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