Khotun Khan - Why Did He Fail to Take Tsushima?

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@CynicGTA
@CynicGTA 3 ай бұрын
Apologies for the late upload. I hope you all had a great Father's day! Norio's video should be up tomorrow, if not the following day! In the meantime, maybe watch another Ghost Video? The Tale of Jin's Father is quite interesting: kzbin.info/www/bejne/i4KspKGdhZd8b9ksi=bS6wSQy8dTUZhOxS if you want to chat with me directly maybe join our official discord: discord.gg/qzwCDbt
@the_jingo
@the_jingo 3 ай бұрын
why did he fail? simple the game is called "Ghost of Tsushima" not "Grandson of Genghis"
@randombush3031
@randombush3031 3 ай бұрын
Imagine a grandson of Genghis where you play as a Mongol general.
@StuckTrippin
@StuckTrippin 3 ай бұрын
​@randombush3031 the world is not ready for a realistic mongol experience. Lots of r*pe, disembowling, torture, and genocide.
@sepvanharten9102
@sepvanharten9102 3 ай бұрын
@@randombush3031war crime simulator
@Kruppuchino
@Kruppuchino 3 ай бұрын
"Not really much of a milestone now." But seriously, Ghenghis and Ramses are probably reminiscing about how much they fucked in their times
@imnotabotiswear3276
@imnotabotiswear3276 3 ай бұрын
​@sepvanharten9102 so... a mid 2010's cod game
@Spartan117210
@Spartan117210 3 ай бұрын
“To defeat an enemy, you must know them… Not simply their battle tactics, but their history, philosophy, art!” - Grand Admiral Thrawn
@white0thunderwhite0thunder71
@white0thunderwhite0thunder71 3 ай бұрын
And making friends with all of THEIR enemies...
@Ravioli718
@Ravioli718 2 ай бұрын
Thrawn is such a good character
@navyhusky2020
@navyhusky2020 3 ай бұрын
What I liked about Khotun Khan was that he rarely gave in to angry outbursts, and relied on mental manipulation in regards to Ryuzo's betrayal and Shimura's capture. It made him much more interesting as a villain to me
@markelscott100
@markelscott100 3 ай бұрын
Yeah he only got angry is when jin cut him
@OverLorD768
@OverLorD768 3 ай бұрын
I dunno. According to one of the notes from the monk who followed him, Khotun was so furious after Shimura's escape that poor dude was worrying about his life. Only later he calmed down and admitted that this changes nothing, since Shimura's honor and samurai code would dictate him to fight like a moron.
@xytech7432
@xytech7432 3 ай бұрын
​@OverLorD768 "Rarely." I feel like getting angry at Shimuras escape is justified. Considering who he is.
@loserinasuit7880
@loserinasuit7880 2 ай бұрын
​@@OverLorD768 I'd be furious too, imagine a fucking geriatric samurai escaping from a fort of like 30-60 well fed adults in their prime.
@AlguienCualquieraDelMundo
@AlguienCualquieraDelMundo 3 ай бұрын
Kothun Khan was a very badass antagonist, had a brilliant characterization, he stole every scene he was in and you can see how much of a treat he is across the game, doing everything posible to secure the conquest of the island by any brutal mean imaginable, like the real mongols of the time. Maybe he failed in conquering Japan in the end, but still managed to effortlessly ruin the lives of everyone in Tsushima, including the vengeful ghost one that he unconsciously created.
@white0thunderwhite0thunder71
@white0thunderwhite0thunder71 3 ай бұрын
Perhaps if he also tried to make allies to share his conquest rather than just subjugating the populace and enslaving the warriors, he could've won the propaganda war and been in a better position.
@UnifiedEntity
@UnifiedEntity 3 ай бұрын
He was ok. Not enouhh presence of the actual character, but we saw more of thr aftermath of his actions but thats not enough for us to say we know him and been apart of our journey. The records do help his character
@PolloBondEnAccion
@PolloBondEnAccion 3 ай бұрын
​@@UnifiedEntityWell, he's in charge of taking Japan, so it makes sense that he isn't always present, since the conquest of an archipelago is.... well complex, he was prolly busy making plans and stuff
@UnifiedEntity
@UnifiedEntity 3 ай бұрын
@@PolloBondEnAccion Yes but we could've at least had a couple head to head battles with him and either lose at or fight to a stalement, OR get the upper hand and drive him back to one final confrontation on top of Takas death as the ultimate build up
@AsifHossain-fr5dn
@AsifHossain-fr5dn 3 ай бұрын
@@UnifiedEntity fights dont go to a stalemate lol
@Soulthief4056
@Soulthief4056 3 ай бұрын
Honestly all kutos to Kahn. He learned the language and culture of Tsushima and didn’t underestimate them. Jin was the reason for his fall. Hope in a hopeless situation
@white0thunderwhite0thunder71
@white0thunderwhite0thunder71 3 ай бұрын
His second mistake was never trying to make allies, just used horse breaking tactics to make slaves and servants.
@azr_Ħ
@azr_Ħ 3 ай бұрын
He literally could’ve killed Jin, yet let him go. That’s underestimating.
@Soulthief4056
@Soulthief4056 3 ай бұрын
@@azr_Ħ I don’t think so. He even pointed out Jin was the ghost. I think that was him playing with his food
@digivagrant
@digivagrant 3 ай бұрын
​@@white0thunderwhite0thunder71 Did the Genghis Khan stick part But failed at the carrot. The Khan Dynasty really fell off 3 gens in.
@auroa9854
@auroa9854 3 ай бұрын
@@white0thunderwhite0thunder71 Wdym he never tried to make allies? The straw hats? He tried to sway Lord Shimura to his side? The one inn and monk sided with the mongols, theres a lot more that I dont care to remember but he made plenty of allies, just not powerful ones
@lendleguanzon4753
@lendleguanzon4753 2 ай бұрын
Fun fact: The english VA for Khan is the same actor who played Genghis Khan in the Night of the Museum films
@juuliuscaesar6107
@juuliuscaesar6107 2 ай бұрын
Actually he played Atilla the Hun not Genghis Khan
@josetomascamposrobledano4618
@josetomascamposrobledano4618 20 күн бұрын
Which is extra funny because ITS NOT ENGLISH VA! This is an American game! The English voices are the actors! With their real faces used to model the in-game characters (with some obvious improvements cause it’s a game). The Japanese audio are VA’s since they are dubbing over the original audio!
@ericshun2552
@ericshun2552 3 ай бұрын
Bro studied the meta but runs into a rouge player
@white0thunderwhite0thunder71
@white0thunderwhite0thunder71 3 ай бұрын
And he couldn't adapt afterwards.
@h.w.4482
@h.w.4482 2 ай бұрын
Jin was the equivalent of a youtuber making a gimmick loadout for a game and it ends up dominating everyone else using the more popular ones
@eafasfwasgwg
@eafasfwasgwg 2 ай бұрын
best way to put it lmao
@burghleyimeanberdly6513
@burghleyimeanberdly6513 2 ай бұрын
Khotun Khan's greatest blunder, and the one that cost him his life, was looking down on the Japanese. If he had properly earned Tomoe and Ryuzo's trust and not their fear by treating them well, he would have had an easier time with the war. This also manifested with the way he dealt with Lord Shimura, or rather how he didn't. Khotun knew Shimura was honour-bound to never surrender, and should have executed him the first chance he got. A lack of thoroughness in the aftermath of Komoda beach also allowed Jin to survive and we know exactly how that turned out, the lack of diligence was probably caused by his knowledge that Samurai are too honorable to play dead but he failed to consider that someone may have been left on the near side of death's door and survived, even barely.
@jumpingmoose5554
@jumpingmoose5554 3 ай бұрын
Getting ghost of tsushima videos this long after release is evidence that we gotta have a sequel. One that reaches greater heights than the original.
@VEV-cu6no
@VEV-cu6no 3 ай бұрын
I mean what kind of story would it even be about. Id like it to be a different protaganist in a completly different era of japans era
@markelscott100
@markelscott100 3 ай бұрын
​@@VEV-cu6notheres a second mongol invasion in japans history
@VEV-cu6no
@VEV-cu6no 3 ай бұрын
@@markelscott100 was that the one that got wiped out by a tsunami
@jumpingmoose5554
@jumpingmoose5554 3 ай бұрын
@@VEV-cu6no it could be jin trying to deal with the aftermath of the ghost becoming a legend that the people of tsushima follow
@CEO1992
@CEO1992 2 ай бұрын
A sequel was announced. Personally I think it will be be good if Jin will help in the second invasion of Mongol Army but this time it's on the Main land. Bigger Map. More Samurai Clan to help.
@t5hammer871
@t5hammer871 3 ай бұрын
If Khotun wasn’t so determined to subdue Tsushima’s people by diplomacy and guile (essentially emotionally and mentally beating the people into submission), he could have won handily. He just NEEDED to force a surrender to prevent a martyr which may or may not manifest
@white0thunderwhite0thunder71
@white0thunderwhite0thunder71 3 ай бұрын
Mercy, alliances, and negotiations can be just as useful in conquest as combat and tactics. No matter how strong your army is, no matter how sound your strategies are, you don't win a war without logistics and its better to make friends with the people around you than risking they all come together to kill you before you kill them.
@Mukation
@Mukation 2 ай бұрын
He just needed to kill Jin when he had him tied up, then his legend would have died eventually. He got obssessed with killing the legend and not the man, that's why the man could kill him.
@SouthernRam
@SouthernRam 2 ай бұрын
​@@Mukationexactly
@TheAwesomeDarkNinja
@TheAwesomeDarkNinja Ай бұрын
The Khan needed his story to be remembered. I think that's why he was so adamant to bring Shimura and Jin to his side.
@lvlup3173
@lvlup3173 13 күн бұрын
You never studied war and conquest.. that's why you are saying Hard Power is only way of winning..
@Achernus411
@Achernus411 3 ай бұрын
I was so confused because I thought the title said “Kotal Kahn” and I was about to be like woah wrong game, Cynic
@CynicGTA
@CynicGTA 3 ай бұрын
Lol. The amount of times ive said the wrong name too. Its all a setup
@samreyes8913
@samreyes8913 3 ай бұрын
Kotun clearly didn't consult the Elder Gods.
@Kruppuchino
@Kruppuchino 3 ай бұрын
​@@samreyes8913likely a lack of actual sacrifices
@thenethralking6032
@thenethralking6032 5 күн бұрын
I remember making the same mistake when I first played the game 😂
@inquisitorgarza312
@inquisitorgarza312 3 ай бұрын
Kyotun Khan really is a failure in the terms of the Mongol Conquerors as he wasn’t able to use the Allies he had to the best of his abilities. What made other mongol conquest’s successful was the fact that they were able to divide and conquer their foes by creating the divisions that their enemies had and literally help growth does divisions to the point of actual civil wars erupting within the enemies nations.
@white0thunderwhite0thunder71
@white0thunderwhite0thunder71 3 ай бұрын
An olive branch can be just as destructive as ANY sword could ever hope to be.
@ccc34678
@ccc34678 3 ай бұрын
khotun khan never went to tsushima or japan though..?
@CynicGTA
@CynicGTA 3 ай бұрын
@ccc34678 youre right. It was actually Kublai. Khotun is a fictional character
@digivagrant
@digivagrant 3 ай бұрын
Khotun had terrible spies.
@arthas7
@arthas7 3 ай бұрын
That's in the 2nd invasion where mongols got Chinese and Koreans to fight with them
@vermas4654
@vermas4654 3 ай бұрын
Every time he offered the main character to surrender, i was saying in my head "Sorry but the game doesn't give me the option to do so"
@semilianooo
@semilianooo 3 ай бұрын
That would be shitty ending😂
@dorime3031
@dorime3031 3 ай бұрын
The main issue was his ambition was not limited to tsushima otherwise he would have won easily. His main ambition was conquering main land and defeating kublai kahn by aligning with shimura and ghost. He had chances to kill both.
@vandeheyeric
@vandeheyeric 3 ай бұрын
Exactly. Khotun was so obsessed with overthrowing his cousin in the war after next he didn't focus on winning the one he was in now.
@destroyercreater98
@destroyercreater98 3 ай бұрын
Honestly Jin was both the best and worst thing that could happen to Khotun Khan. Cause on one hand. He was such a threat that if it wasn’t for him. He would’ve steamrolled through Tsushima without any competition. But on the other. If he could just reach the mainland after gathering up the poison he learned from Jin poisoning his men. The fight there would’ve been a SLAUGHTER.
@dalcomaroni9837
@dalcomaroni9837 Ай бұрын
but the reason why Khan couldn't get the poison to the mainland is because of Jin himself.
@TartagliaThe_11th_McDsEmployee
@TartagliaThe_11th_McDsEmployee 3 күн бұрын
​@@dalcomaroni9837if only they made the poison thing a secret weapon they used at the final battle they could've surprised the ghost and his army with it. Instead, they revealed it too early which motivated Jin to push on harder to beat the Khan as soon as possible
@Anbuninja840
@Anbuninja840 3 ай бұрын
This game aligns with the book art of war by Sun tzu. Which argues in order to win a war was to Subdue your enemy without fighting in such that you have to gain them into your side. That’s why I think Khoton learned his enemies’ tradition etc. at the end he said “u kill me now and another will come” which mean jin won the battle but not the war since mongol or samurai hasn’t joined any side or philosophy. It wasn’t how big the army , kill count but how u can convince your enemy to join u
@akramrahim369
@akramrahim369 Ай бұрын
Taka forged the best armor for Jin. The plot armor.
@whiteoutwater6367
@whiteoutwater6367 2 ай бұрын
I honestly would love a dlc for the game or just a whole new game where you play as a mongol. That would be fun for sure
@fatguy4137
@fatguy4137 3 ай бұрын
The issue in his Eye was the hope that came with "Legends" the flame set by The Ghost, but we see how it wasn't just Jin. They kept going for Icons, breaking people, attacking temples, destroying Fox dens, killing them, spoiling graves, it still didn't work properly, we see other people besides Jin, breaking through his tactic, doing their most to supply hope even when they fall. Taka, is a great example, the Cedar Temple high monk, the Warrior monks. We see sacrifice for hope. I would mention Cedar... But every turn they chose to not help so...
@justincarter1217
@justincarter1217 3 ай бұрын
Honestly i think he leaned a bit too much into diplomacy he shouldve ended jin and shimura the second he got them compromised
@randombush3031
@randombush3031 3 ай бұрын
I don’t know about Shimura as his prize was the mainland, so having him at his side would be excellent for the conquest of it. However, by the time he captured Jin, it would’ve made sense to kill him as jin was an insurgent who held nothing for capturing the mainland and was only a problem. I think it was also evident that Jin would never turn on his people so having Jin escape from a mere hand ties was a bit of an issue from me instead of being in like a max guarded prison considering how dangerous he was.
@HeyyyJude
@HeyyyJude 3 ай бұрын
@@randombush3031Khan is aware of the influence the Ghost has as we saw when he had Jin and Taka tied up and he reiterates that if Jin told his people to follow that they would. I guess he was looking for compliance and not domination. More resources, people familiar with the country and bodies to throw at the mainland. I think that would be his driving force. There were still strong fighters like the Yarikawa who I think they could’ve swayed to their side if not for Jin
@GYCLIPSESY
@GYCLIPSESY 3 ай бұрын
​@@HeyyyJudeI agree because at the time the ghost is more trusted in the general Japanese populous on the island than any Samurai and perhaps even the Shogun. If the ghosts were to endorse the Mongol leader either everybody would give up or just submit. If his plan were to work it would have cleared up what little job he had left to do on the island before sailing to the mainland but it failed as a Gamble and I'm sure he knew the risk.
@LordHydrik
@LordHydrik 3 ай бұрын
Not much of a choice, he aimed at conquering all of Japan and needed a Japanese Army to do it. With said allies he could get more in the mainland plus, supplies, troops etc as well as be able to hold the country. If he killed everything he wouldn't be able to win, Jin was just a wild card and unexpected problem
@white0thunderwhite0thunder71
@white0thunderwhite0thunder71 3 ай бұрын
That would've just created martyrs to inspire more people to stand against him. Khotun knew that they would've been more useful to him as pawns to quell the populace into submission, but no he NEVER used diplomacy when dealing with Jin and Shimura. He always made conversation with them as the dominator, the man who gives and takes at his pleasure. This automatically creates a hostile negotiation position that seeds distrust and defiance from the get-go which in turn makes negotiations with prideful people impossible. Had the Khan showed he can be reasoned with and merciful then perhaps things could've gone in a different direction.
@manuelacosta9463
@manuelacosta9463 3 ай бұрын
One aspect of Khotun Khan that is interesting is his apparent open frankness behind closed doors, particularly his conversations with the monk Daizo. Yes it has elements of manipulation but given the personal tidbits Khotun talks about, from the symbolic release of his golden eagle to his origins. He's quite the antagonist for sure.
@ajizel13
@ajizel13 3 ай бұрын
1:02 most disrespectful moment....and at the same time...this was the moment we, the players, knew that this dude was NOT phuckin around.....he came here to win, came here to conquer....he didn't give 2 shits about honor.... "Lord adachi died with honor" YES THE FUCK HE DIDNT....
@RandomGuy-mw5mw
@RandomGuy-mw5mw 2 ай бұрын
I read somewhere that in Khotun Khans eyes, it was Lord Adachi who tarnished his honour. In Japanese culture they believed that power came from the blood and family name, in mongol culture it was the opposite, with many commoner rising through the ranks because the Mongol culture valued personal ability over blood. For Khotun khan to be challenged to a duel by a small lord who was only lord because he was born into the clan, while Khotun Khan had to claw his way to the top through personal ability, to be well, insulting. And yes Khotun Khan was born into the Genghis lineage, but that doesn't mean that he automatically was some super important person who got all the privileges. No, he led a life of constant warfare to prove himself worthy to be a Khan. Lord Adachi was absolutely spitting in his face when he challenged him to a duel.
@ajizel13
@ajizel13 2 ай бұрын
@RandomGuy-mw5mw this gives an entirely new context to the whole situation....🔥🔥🔥
@thsxi
@thsxi Ай бұрын
Lord Adachi fought with honour, Lord Adachi died
@Cursedmanplays4631
@Cursedmanplays4631 3 ай бұрын
Now with AC Shadows announced and all its controversy and its inevitable comparison with Tsushima, I will write down my thoughts on how GoT could have been an AC game. So, the story is the same, but Yuna, is an assassin (by GoT timeline, they are already called assassins, not Hidden Ones), and it would introduce a new character, Yuna's master. Yuna's master is chinese, and came to Tsushima because he learned of Khan's plan to take the island. His attempts to warn off Yarikawa failed because of his dishonorable ways. So he focused on recruiting non-samurais to the cause. Yuna was his first apprentice (lets say there are a few more assassins, but they are all non-samurai, possible farmers or thieves that have been recruited and trained). When Yuna rescues Jin, she sees the potential of recruiting him. Having a samurai become an assassin would be a great asset for the brotherhood's cause. A samurai, with thgeir skillset, learning the ways and skills of the assassins? That's a horrible combination. So the story goes around the same, Yuna recruits Jin, Yuna and her master train Jin, but her master is then killed during one mission where he sacrificed himself to save both Yuna and Jin. He did it because he knew with Jin recruited, the odds would be on tsushima's and the brotherhood's favor. SO the story continues on as normal. Jin meets up with everyone he does in the story, just with the twist that he is an assassin now. And thus, has a new toy, the hidden blade (he doesn't need to cut his finger since Altair already resolved that). Ofc, The Khan is a templar, Jin becomes a master assassins at the end, and the choice to kill or spare Jin's uncle is left to the player. He becomes the Ghost of Tsushima, but instead of the head bandana, its a hood lol
@Stillbraixentho
@Stillbraixentho 22 күн бұрын
🔥🔥✍
@MrJuninho11
@MrJuninho11 3 ай бұрын
Khotun sounds a lot more menacing with Japanese dubs
@david21289
@david21289 3 ай бұрын
Everyone is better with japanese dub, Kenji sounds more like Kenji in Japanese dub 😂
@westym8935
@westym8935 2 ай бұрын
You should hear SAKAI JIN with japanese dubs😤 makes english speaking Jin sound pussy lol
@westym8935
@westym8935 2 ай бұрын
you should hear SAKAI JIN😤 with japanese dubs lol makes english speaking jin sound pussy
@white0thunderwhite0thunder71
@white0thunderwhite0thunder71 3 ай бұрын
The fool was too arrogant and prideful from using the carrot and the stick to recruit slaves and servants to understand that you can also use an olive branch to make ALLIES.
@jaysanj152
@jaysanj152 3 ай бұрын
He may have failed on taking over Tsushima But he sure as hell exposed the fatal flaw behind the shogunate/samurai's system and how deluged they were,unironically opened jin's eyes to see the bigger picture and overall broke spirits of the people of the island.
@UnifiedEntity
@UnifiedEntity 3 ай бұрын
So basically had the Khan actually treated them as human, even if enemies or an obstacle for conquest but as people and not doing shit like sparing Taka, he wouldve had more leverage and maybe genuine allies of Tsushima. Ryuzo and the Ronin Samurai were his best chance. They were the result of "dishonor" among the samurai who needed to find a means to make a living when no one else would help them. But things like "earn it" by making him burn his own people etc just made him and the Mongols at the end of the day.......their oppressors.
@G4meb0y19
@G4meb0y19 3 ай бұрын
He only leaned the ways of the samurai so when jin uses ghost methods he is unprepared jin uses those methods to the dismay of his uncle but in the end it yields results
@Poja_0811
@Poja_0811 3 ай бұрын
Dude, i've been playing tbis game without music for 2 years (half of my whole playtime) and i forgot how good it was
@AverageSensei
@AverageSensei 3 ай бұрын
On an unrelated note, we gotta appreciate the power of the PS4 because that PC gameplay is choppy from time to time
@dazerrazer3018
@dazerrazer3018 Ай бұрын
PC version has a memory leak issue.
@7xprototype
@7xprototype 3 ай бұрын
I love your GoT lore videos bro! I've been watching them ever since I got the game on PC and completed my first playthrough
@thanhtuanoan1409
@thanhtuanoan1409 3 ай бұрын
I find it hard to hate Khotun. He's brilliant, ruthless, manipulative, and patient. He divides and conquers, he knows what to say to everyone, threatens the weak, entices the strong, rewards submissions, and punishes resistance. Had Khotun killed Jin when he was captured, the Khan would have won, since the Ghost was not what he learned about Japan. He should have been more brutal then.
@Clkr3
@Clkr3 3 ай бұрын
Khotun: "I had a goddamn PLAN!"
@Hell_diver1
@Hell_diver1 3 ай бұрын
I was playing GoT on stream and I mentioned the fact that he has HUNDREDS of ships. I said “if each of those ships has at least 10-20 people on it and all the people on those ships went on land at once then Jin and everyone else would have been overwhelmed and defeated”
@Crippledsasquash
@Crippledsasquash 3 ай бұрын
This is one of the best ps4 games of them all and there were a lot of great games that generation id put this just behind Bloodborne and ahead of god of war and spiderman. I loved the story and loved your video than you for taking me back to that great story.
@LostWallet
@LostWallet 2 ай бұрын
Khotun tried to take over with half baked knowlege. his plan was sound, but failed in practice because he didnt think it was importaint to know about them in a deeper level than the surface level. from the beginning, he believed that he is above them, so he never cared enough to learn about them properly.
@bammac69
@bammac69 3 ай бұрын
Because the people opposed his forces, as they could kill civilians with impunity, take their crops, disarm them, rape their women, and basically deny them any rights whatsoever. Oh…wait. No. That was the Samurai. Must have been the language barrier, then…
@Editor_Brad
@Editor_Brad 7 күн бұрын
The best way, and why i love this game, my friend explained the game to me is "this is a game of a samurai turning into a ninja". Jin was always going to win because he was fueled by rage, revenge, vengeance. He needed to become something more than a prideful warrior because his enemies know the samurai code. Jin becoming The Ghost wasnt dishonorable because the island saw why Jin changed. He did it for them and in turn they accepted him without shame.
@blackice7050
@blackice7050 2 ай бұрын
Besides Kothun Khan underestimating of his enemies His soliders were raiding villages , robbing and killing people Kothun Khan didn't understand his enemy well enough , why even keep Lord Shimura as a prisoner if all the samurai warriors were wiped out on Komoda's beach? The Khan could have gotten both Shimura's castle and Yarikawa's support just by having Shimura as his prisoner If Khan killed Shimura then he would have won the approval of the people in Yarikawa and destroyed the legend of a Samurai besides Jin of course Khan didn't learn from his mistakes when he captured Jin If he killed Jin right there , he would have destroyed Tsushima's hope If Shimura and the Shoguns knew of this , they would charge blindly at Shimura's camp and Khan could have killed them all with his traps
@Gamfluent
@Gamfluent 2 ай бұрын
Before even watching, it’s obvious Khans biggest flaw was adaptation, he was expecting a honorable and noble enemy but Jin’s desperation led to a evolution and khan didn’t have a plan for that
@NotoriusMaximus
@NotoriusMaximus 2 ай бұрын
He is Bond villain who telegraphs his plans and let his enemy escape, that's why
@ajizel13
@ajizel13 3 ай бұрын
12:08 crazy point out....this wouldve been a harder game to play if yarikawa had been recruited into the mongol army...ooof
@cenationofjnu
@cenationofjnu 3 ай бұрын
He lost because he didn't act like mongols. His insistence on making shimura an ally was a huge mistake..
@petetrc9671
@petetrc9671 2 ай бұрын
He didn't fail to plan.. he got the samurai figured out, etc. But he didn't count on the Ghost.
@TheOriginalNyxie
@TheOriginalNyxie 2 ай бұрын
dude this video legitimately deserves more views
@manhunter433
@manhunter433 15 күн бұрын
Khotan Khan had the right idea with Shimura and the Straw Hats. If he had extended that to Yarikawa and the newly formed group under Lady Hanna, the Khan could've beaten both the remaining resistance on Tsushima and the Shogun's reinforcements.
@jdp3578
@jdp3578 2 ай бұрын
Alright, so Jin is probably a conduit. For anyone unaware, conduit is a term from the inFamaus franchise by sucker punch that describes a person with supernatural abilities. Those games actually describe that conduits show signs b4 ever getting powers, like surviving severe injuries. Also their powers can activate without ray-field technology, it just takes extreme focus, and some kind of ouside stimuli. Jin survives 2 near death experiences, then somehow the wind guides him, the animals aid him, the island hot springs heal him and give him strength, and he literally learns advanced techniques mid-battle and ends the duel using them perfectly. Not to mention the charms that allow lightning strikes to aid him, or hornets to protect him as he recovers. Jin is a conduit, and the island and its creatures give him strength.
@Oracle1126
@Oracle1126 2 ай бұрын
It’s called inspiration from Japanese folklore
@bristleback3614
@bristleback3614 25 күн бұрын
He's actually charismatic war genius, the reason he fail simply because Jin aka the "ghost" is very unpredictable
@midnight_yota
@midnight_yota Ай бұрын
Yuna was really his downfall. Had she not been a survivor the way she was, she would not have been there to save Jin and nurse his injuries.
@Thegentleman6832
@Thegentleman6832 Ай бұрын
I hope in the sequel there’s a civil war basically fighting over honor is a good system or not. Maybe it becomes chaos, maybe they find a middle ground or maybe the ghost had to step in to organize things
@Bread_Garlichouse
@Bread_Garlichouse 22 күн бұрын
Lovely insight, but ultimately kinda like a commentary of how Ivan drago could have beaten Rocky, or how the Predator could have killed Arnold if he was more ruthless.
@aconfusedshoe6240
@aconfusedshoe6240 Ай бұрын
I think a big part of why Jin was able to overcome the Mongol forces was because Khotun Kahn secretly let him live multiple times purely for entertainment and curiosity in how far Jin could go before being slain. He initially throws him off the bridge because at that point Jin is a nobody. But after the legend of the Ghost starts to build, it makes less and less sense why the Kahn clearly lets Jin live especially when he had both him and Taka captured. It's only during the final battle does he realize he let Jin go way too far and for the first time ever shows emotion when being confronted by Jin. It's like how the Joker constantly toys with Batman and his no kill code only to find out Batman has had enough of the games and finally decides to kill him once and for all.
@eagleye2893
@eagleye2893 3 ай бұрын
Khotun’s Downfall was primarily because of Jin. Lets get that out of the way, The Ghost is praised for saving Tsushima for a good reason, and its not because that without Lord Sakai’s personal sacrifice, Lord Shimura would have been better off.
@sierra118boy
@sierra118boy 2 ай бұрын
Well when you're fighting a guy with a third person view and can heal cut wounds instantly then you're almost bound to fail
@TheGhostOfTK
@TheGhostOfTK 2 ай бұрын
Ironically, he beat himself the same way he beat the samurai at first, he used their own weakness against them and relied heavily on his plan, til one man became the pure opposite of what his plan took advantage of
@parthbhatt2839
@parthbhatt2839 3 ай бұрын
He studied About Samurai Ghost came out of syllabus
@meeeeperbob
@meeeeperbob 2 ай бұрын
If he was dealing with strict samurai, he probably would have won. No one expected jin to do what he did, not the khan, not the shogun, not shimura. No one predicted that a samurai would break their code and still fight.
@ItsMix90
@ItsMix90 3 ай бұрын
Can you please make a video on my theory that in rdr2 Dutch left Aurthur to die so many times because Dutch wanted Aurthurs pain from TB to stop 🙏
@CynicGTA
@CynicGTA 3 ай бұрын
Don't get me wrong. I love making videos on other's theories and ideas. Its great for building a community. But, I just don't see how that's even possible. Dutch, straight up bullies and makes fun of his TB before ever "leaving" him intentionally to die.
@vandeheyeric
@vandeheyeric 3 ай бұрын
Khotun Khan was tactically gifted and shrewd, but he was too busy on focusing for his next war rather than how to win the one he was on right then. He was so obsessed with planning to overthrow Kubiai that he forgot that in this war, Kublai was his ally and master, and he had more immediate problems to worry about. His obsession with trying to recruit Shimura and/or Jin doomed him in a way the historic Mongols that all but depopulated Tsushima were not. One thing I not: Khotun is described as the conqueror of Korea, which I think adds some interesting flavor. The Yuan were able to beat the Koreans into agreeing to basically become “Allies”/Vassals/Puppets with a Mongol Queen essentially ruling over Korea and Korean sailors and soldiers fighting alongside Chinese conscripts and the Mongols themselves in the invasions of Japan. Perhaps Khotun hoped to force Japan into a similar position to Korea for his ultimate showdown with his cousin. But ultimately Khotun’s biggest problems beyond Japanese plot armor was that he spent too much time faffing about and not enough time getting down to it, as well as Colossally misjudging Jin and Shimura in spite of supposedly having a masterful grasp on Japanese culture and politics. Shimura was a liability waiting to happen even if he had agreed and the Khan should have known this, unless he wanted an “ally” who would endlessly complain about every unchivalrous or dishonorable thing the Yuan did. Which would be a lot. As soon as Shimura refused on the beach the Kahn should have taken his head. Ditto with Jin (rather than trying to make Taka take it).
@notarobot3531
@notarobot3531 2 ай бұрын
Since there historically a storm destroyed the Mongol fleet it could be possible that the khan already knew he lost before he set foot on tsushima in the game. Khotun might of had a food supply problem since japan's agriculture is different from the mainland and makes farming hard so he had to resort to stealing from the villages but that is only a temporary fix. He had a hard time limit because without reinforcement and with limited food supply it was only a matter of time before the shogun or emperor sent an army to destroy the mongols.
@SILENTASSASSIN12
@SILENTASSASSIN12 2 ай бұрын
Khotun Khan expected to face Samurai but instead, he faced The Ghost. 🥷🏻
@blaznsoccer3997
@blaznsoccer3997 3 ай бұрын
Khotun Khan failed to conquer Tsushima because the Samurai Clans were better. The Mongols just pillaged and razed towns, where the Samurai actually worked with the locals.
@ImAgentK
@ImAgentK 3 ай бұрын
He failed for plot convenience
@ironblue4593
@ironblue4593 3 ай бұрын
Great video to watch
@TylerSmith-om1cr
@TylerSmith-om1cr Ай бұрын
All he had to do was kill Jin when he caught him and taka? But he wanted to break the ghost, mentally, and when he escaped that was his last chance
@ATribeCalledLegion
@ATribeCalledLegion 3 ай бұрын
Why did he fail? Because he made the very understandable mistake of not taking into consideration that there was a fucking Japanese super solider on the island protecting its inhabitance named Jin Sakai. Khotun was intelligent enough to capture his uncle, the other super soilder, but shimura was clever enough to keep yapping about honor instead of telling him how he gave Jin Batman levels of combat training.
@TheACTIONZ
@TheACTIONZ 3 ай бұрын
Jin can take a whole mongol camp with 50 people and make it out of there without a scratch, he doesn't even need to be stealthy
@LinayatIlyas
@LinayatIlyas 3 ай бұрын
He could have just killed Jin after he was caught lol
@sharronbrennon899
@sharronbrennon899 2 ай бұрын
Well technically Khotan didn’t fall to take Tsushima. He just failed to hold on to it
@LatinW321
@LatinW321 Ай бұрын
Ghost of Tsushima but Hungary fighting the Mongol
@ssj-rose4572
@ssj-rose4572 2 ай бұрын
All he had to do was kill jin and shimura when he had the chance
@northernseeker1822
@northernseeker1822 2 ай бұрын
Because Jin Sakai is a legend in flesh.
@Branon8
@Branon8 3 күн бұрын
R.I.P TAKA
@Lukas_craft_hd
@Lukas_craft_hd 2 күн бұрын
Jin was just saved by plot multiple times thats why kahn failed
@peteybakedziti8908
@peteybakedziti8908 3 ай бұрын
Plot contrivance: the character
@crawford4140
@crawford4140 3 ай бұрын
Unfortunately as kings and generals commentated in his own video the mongols ran into fierce resistance further inland on the mainland Japan invasion
@arushamshafeeq9428
@arushamshafeeq9428 10 күн бұрын
Khan failed because the ghost wasn't part of his plan
@Zetler
@Zetler 3 ай бұрын
I would rather play as the Mongols. Got tired of being trapped in this Disney Samurai theme park real fast. It’s just this constant Japanese are noble good, Mongols are bad narrative all the way through.
@SouthernRam
@SouthernRam 2 ай бұрын
he failed prob cause he let the Ghost live multiple times cause he wanted to convert him
@stickfigurewithahat8860
@stickfigurewithahat8860 2 ай бұрын
Well this is because of plot armor
@benfrank9622
@benfrank9622 2 ай бұрын
Khotun Khan failed because of Jin Sakai. End of summary.
@ElMarcusR
@ElMarcusR 2 ай бұрын
I love how the intro goes like "if the khan had planned all of his invasion how did it fail? How would it happen" ..like...how do you fkin think happened? The game its called Ghost of Tsushima, i mean 😂 he wouldnt have thought that a single samurái ninja was gonna solo his whole army
@abreezyistrashbb118
@abreezyistrashbb118 22 күн бұрын
why ur graphics look so amazing😂
@brothers_of_nod
@brothers_of_nod 3 ай бұрын
Subscribed.
@siyeezy1
@siyeezy1 3 ай бұрын
To be fair, Jin pulls off some incredibly ridiculous feats that shouldn’t have been possible, otherwise Khan would’ve won
@emonkhan1443
@emonkhan1443 2 ай бұрын
khotun did everything right. Some may say that he should have killed Sakai but killing Sakai would have been counter-intuitive to his main goal since he basically became a head of tsushima. Bro got unlucky that he was in a game, irl he would his winning chance would have been 95% at least. He failed because this is a game
@robert23456789
@robert23456789 3 ай бұрын
Any videos about the real battle of tusumi
@RepentForYourS1ns
@RepentForYourS1ns 3 ай бұрын
Bro thought he was pro before fighting a better pro player 😭🙏
@craptastraphy7805
@craptastraphy7805 3 ай бұрын
Fine. I’ll go play ghost of Tsushima again
@chimera_43
@chimera_43 3 ай бұрын
He failed because he threw Jin off the bridge 💀 had he ended Jin there, Shimura would have thrown Tsushimas remaining forces at him on that very bridge 💀
@Whitelisted_Productions
@Whitelisted_Productions 3 ай бұрын
Why is the contrast so high?
@_Mouth
@_Mouth 2 ай бұрын
Why did khotun khan fall? Well you see it because of something called *plot armour*
@nickwong2525
@nickwong2525 3 ай бұрын
Without Jin, Khotun Khan would have taken Tsushima easily, look at what Shimura has done... Oh wait, nothing. I have more respect for the Khan than for Shimura.
@Heisen_burger-dude
@Heisen_burger-dude 3 ай бұрын
Khan murdered multiple innoocents
@david21289
@david21289 3 ай бұрын
Shimura would sacrifice the whole island just for upholding his honour and traditions. He's a slave to honor.
@VSN-wb2ly
@VSN-wb2ly 3 ай бұрын
Khotun khan is a far better leader than shimura, if jin never rebelled against shimura's stupid honor then it'd turned out differently
@blackice7050
@blackice7050 2 ай бұрын
Shimura at least called for the Shoguns and helped Jin in the final battle Even after all the people who followed the ghost , they didn't have the numbers to defeat the Mongols up north
@potato_duud6166
@potato_duud6166 2 ай бұрын
He failed because an angry japanese man wanted to protect his small island
@LoloLesaoana
@LoloLesaoana 3 ай бұрын
Hulagu invasion of Egypt 👹
@SpaghettiNachos
@SpaghettiNachos Ай бұрын
Shikanoko NokoNoko Khotun Khan
@markelscott100
@markelscott100 3 ай бұрын
He didnt make sure jin died he foolishy thrown jin in.the water expecting him to die
@kaydens6964
@kaydens6964 3 ай бұрын
Dude, he didnt kill a captured Jin. Its plot armor diff
@elperrodelautumo7511
@elperrodelautumo7511 2 ай бұрын
There could’ve been another mongol based game. Somewhere in the Golden Horde. How the mongols took the Russian principalities. Kiev etc,
@CEO1992
@CEO1992 2 ай бұрын
Game's name should be Ghost of Tsushima ft. Home girl Yuna
@fryingpanwhyno
@fryingpanwhyno 3 ай бұрын
maturing is realising what jin did is the only way. the mongols would've conquered tsushima without the ghost
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