Khyber Pass Martini Pistol

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Forgotten Weapons

Forgotten Weapons

9 жыл бұрын

The Khyber Pass is a well known center of arms production, with gunmaking there going back at least 100 years. The quality of craftsmanship varies greatly, from excellent and safe weapons to thoroughly unsafe guns made with little more than hand files and drills. In the last decade or so, much of the production has centered around making guns for sale to Western soldiers to take home as souvenirs. Since antique guns can generally be imported to places like the US and UK with minimal paperwork, gunsmiths build copies of the arms used by the British in their last occupation of Afghanistan - Martini Henrys. This particular one is a .303 caliber pistol, adorned extensively with decorations and with a laughably crude copy of British service markings.
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@thesturm8686
@thesturm8686 4 жыл бұрын
"Hey friend, i want a pistol, a rifle, a flashbang, a flamethrower, and a grenade, but i only have 10 american dollars" "I got you friend"
@christianwaldrup7121
@christianwaldrup7121 4 жыл бұрын
I can do it for 6 my friend
@slumpinrx
@slumpinrx 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry im late use my promo code and we can get it done for only 4.99 today!
@joelerk6298
@joelerk6298 4 жыл бұрын
@@slumpinrx deal!
@hgrunt100
@hgrunt100 4 жыл бұрын
Dont forget all that combined with a hand dandy suicide machine
@massimothetrog7111
@massimothetrog7111 4 жыл бұрын
I would put it in a vice and fire it, it it survived a few Mk.VII ball rounds, i would shoot it. looks like they hacked up a Bren barrel to make it.
@acklan3
@acklan3 8 жыл бұрын
That is not a pistol, it is a hand grenade with a trigger.
@ryanehlis426
@ryanehlis426 8 жыл бұрын
+acklan3 LOL, right might work ok, if a person loaded it light like .38 special pressure and used 110 gr bullets. but yes kind of a silly piece of junk.
@hisdukeness3037
@hisdukeness3037 8 жыл бұрын
Like the movie killing them softly, the sawed off shotgun scene.
@Porty1119
@Porty1119 8 жыл бұрын
I think I'd go with a sized buckshot pellet and a couple grains of pistol powder for the ultimate low-pressure mouse-fart experience, lol.
@WAQWBrentwood
@WAQWBrentwood 7 жыл бұрын
+Ryan Ehlis I'd be afraid to crank off a .22 Short in that thing!
@swiggityswag1034
@swiggityswag1034 7 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't fire a 22 cb
@drmaudio
@drmaudio 8 жыл бұрын
"The bore is almost centered in the barrel, which is a nice touch." Yes, I agree, I do view a centered bore as a nice, thoughtful, little extra on a gun.
@austinm.9832
@austinm.9832 3 жыл бұрын
Then you wouldn't like the sterling s11
@Karl_Kampfwagen
@Karl_Kampfwagen 3 жыл бұрын
It's not MANDATORY to retain function... But it sure is helpful
@joostdriesens3984
@joostdriesens3984 3 жыл бұрын
Personally, I feel centered bores are overrated.
@Karl_Kampfwagen
@Karl_Kampfwagen 3 жыл бұрын
@@joostdriesens3984 Ever see the Beeman / Feinwerkbau Model 2 air pistol, with a barrel that spirals AROUND THE ACTION? Really slays the "my barrel isn't straight" defense 😂
@joostdriesens3984
@joostdriesens3984 3 жыл бұрын
@@Karl_Kampfwagen I just checked it out, what the effing eff??? 😂
@todorkolev7565
@todorkolev7565 7 жыл бұрын
Aaah, a reproduction of the good old British classic: The EnfieldEnfieldEnfield model 3333333 :D
@falloutghoul1
@falloutghoul1 4 жыл бұрын
How does it compare to a BrowningsBrowningsBrownings?
@igiveup12
@igiveup12 4 жыл бұрын
@@falloutghoul1 Which model though?
@falloutghoul1
@falloutghoul1 4 жыл бұрын
@@igiveup12 1944.
@billyjoe9084
@billyjoe9084 4 жыл бұрын
PopcornParatrooper model 19hty6
@giarenella
@giarenella 4 жыл бұрын
@@V4-_- r/wooosh
@polygondwanaland8390
@polygondwanaland8390 7 жыл бұрын
"1561 is not an appropriate date for a Martini Henry"
@vasilipanin8978
@vasilipanin8978 6 жыл бұрын
charwhick don't even know if its appropriate for a match lock.
@alphabloodhawk
@alphabloodhawk 5 жыл бұрын
@@vasilipanin8978 Some people say Matchlocks have been around as early as the 1470s.
@vasilipanin8978
@vasilipanin8978 5 жыл бұрын
@@alphabloodhawk will split the difference and say 1561 is a good date for a wheel lock.
@thulomanchay
@thulomanchay 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe the Afghan gunsmith was looking at 1921upside down.
@tharqal2764
@tharqal2764 4 жыл бұрын
@@thulomanchay That's not an appropriate date either though.
@Jacob-yg7lz
@Jacob-yg7lz 7 жыл бұрын
Basically a sawed off rifle. What could possibly go wrong.
@AmericanHandgunner44
@AmericanHandgunner44 7 жыл бұрын
Jacob Furrow Nothing if it was built right in the first place.
@SwampSurgeon
@SwampSurgeon 7 жыл бұрын
Not a sawed off rifle. It's a handmade copy with fake proof marks.
@Jacob-yg7lz
@Jacob-yg7lz 7 жыл бұрын
momo fuku​ I know it's not literally a "sawed off rifle", but it basically is in terms of practicality.
@firepower7017
@firepower7017 7 жыл бұрын
Jacob Furrow It looks more like the Mauser c96 deformed brother
@T3hderk87
@T3hderk87 7 жыл бұрын
Nope, nothing at all lol. I'd definitely wear a good set of chainmail cutting gloves while firing this thing, not that I don't trust it...nope not at all....
@notmenotme614
@notmenotme614 3 жыл бұрын
The more times you stamp Enfield on the firearm, the more authentic it is.
@beargillium2369
@beargillium2369 10 ай бұрын
Yeah, idk, I'm no historian, but I'm pretty confident this was made by Enfield Enfield Enfield 🤔
@Optatius
@Optatius 7 жыл бұрын
Love how the bore being nearly centered in the barrel is a nice feature.
@a_Minion_of_Soros
@a_Minion_of_Soros 3 жыл бұрын
It's a bug. it's supposed to be a SeeThru barrel for a chamber check (and hand amputation).
@SeaDog337
@SeaDog337 8 жыл бұрын
1561, eh? Must've been Queen Elizabeth's personal sidearm fighting the Spanish armada.
@amperzand9162
@amperzand9162 8 жыл бұрын
Queen Victoria*
@SeaDog337
@SeaDog337 8 жыл бұрын
Queen Elizabeth**
@amperzand9162
@amperzand9162 8 жыл бұрын
MosquitoHunter I was making a joke about the gun having a proof mark specifically referencing Queen Victoria.
@WinterCedar
@WinterCedar 7 жыл бұрын
"It's not an appropriate date."
@SeaDog337
@SeaDog337 7 жыл бұрын
You don't say :P
@keitheckensviller250
@keitheckensviller250 9 жыл бұрын
Actually saw one of these on my first deployment to Afghanistan in 2007. One of my buddies called me over and asked me if I knew what it was. I exclaimed that it was totally Kybered and was not something that ever actually existed, but that it was a Martini action. Funny that it's 303 British as the round would take up most of the length of the barrel.
@A-G-F-
@A-G-F- 5 жыл бұрын
Heh, maybe it was built by the same gunsmith
@eugeneoliveros5814
@eugeneoliveros5814 5 жыл бұрын
Keith Eckensviller I thought it was a bit short
@williameaton9058
@williameaton9058 4 жыл бұрын
You "exclaimed".....
@adude8424
@adude8424 4 жыл бұрын
"kybered" is an actual word.
@ianmangham4570
@ianmangham4570 3 жыл бұрын
@@adude8424 Here in England we call one's arse/back passage Up the Khyber 🤣
@LoneWolf051
@LoneWolf051 7 жыл бұрын
"Answer that damn phone!!!" - Uncle Leo
@stefanforrer2573
@stefanforrer2573 5 жыл бұрын
"jerry! hello!"
@iany.8567
@iany.8567 5 жыл бұрын
I was just looking through the comments to see if someone said that
@doc_matter
@doc_matter 3 жыл бұрын
Vibrate mode! Lol
@ellisgill1940
@ellisgill1940 3 жыл бұрын
@@iany.8567 lmao same. hello year old commenter XD
@thelegendaryklobb2879
@thelegendaryklobb2879 7 жыл бұрын
"...the bore is almost centered in the barrel, which is a nice touch" Love your humor
@maxphilippi9944
@maxphilippi9944 7 жыл бұрын
Dice, bring this into Battlefield as the ultimate LVL 100 unlock
@Fridgemasters
@Fridgemasters 7 жыл бұрын
It would be a nice troll weapon.
@polak.7144
@polak.7144 7 жыл бұрын
Egg Pickles basically the new jeep stuff. Without jeeps.
@thegoonies5599
@thegoonies5599 7 жыл бұрын
Egg Pickles Nothing beats the kolobri
@Wolvenworks
@Wolvenworks 6 жыл бұрын
*by the gods what matter of abomination have we created?*
@meowmeowmeow594
@meowmeowmeow594 6 жыл бұрын
Batman colonel 100
@Wolfstanus
@Wolfstanus 8 жыл бұрын
That fookn cellphone!
@freshcancer713
@freshcancer713 6 жыл бұрын
Wolfstanus his mom wanted to know if he is playing with another gun
@theinstitute1324
@theinstitute1324 5 жыл бұрын
@@justinhatch4096 fook outta 'ere ye fookin enfield shet
@joycewheeler968
@joycewheeler968 5 жыл бұрын
Wolfstanus fookn laser sights!
@jimmyrustler8983
@jimmyrustler8983 7 жыл бұрын
The thought of having an Obrez'd Martini sounds awesome, until you realise you have to fire it.
@TheArklyte
@TheArklyte 4 жыл бұрын
Well, if it had been done by same manufacturer as actual Martini-Henry... In that case this thing(with better quality obviously) looks like a good sidearm for your soldiers. Since: 1)you're too much of a cheap ass to give a revolver to anybody, but an officer and even they likely bought it themselves; 2)it shares ammo and parts with actual rifle so you can use it as a repair kit and have no trouble with running out of ammo; 3)you have 2 shots of Martini-Henry ready at all times. There was another video on similar gun that was submitted for german trials and shared ammo with Dreyse, if I recall right.
@thesturm8686
@thesturm8686 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheArklyte that reminds me of that swedish mauser that shares ammo with the heavy MG the troop carry, i pity them if they also have a pistol with those design feature in mind
@user-um3jj9bk7j
@user-um3jj9bk7j 9 күн бұрын
I am from Peshawar Pakistan 🇵🇰 it's name ,,Lindi mara ,, pistols
@TheRogueWolf
@TheRogueWolf 8 жыл бұрын
I don't think 865 is a serial number. I think it's the number of tourists's fingers the maker's guns have blown off. And the "3"s are for each time one explosion has taken three or more fingers.
@96dukeboy
@96dukeboy 6 жыл бұрын
And Enfield is just a misspelling of where all the bodies are haha
@mercoid
@mercoid 9 жыл бұрын
Next time you do a video, sit behind an empty table and say, " welcome to Forgotten Weapons. I'd love to show you a weapon now but I have Forgotten it"
@sefrautiq
@sefrautiq 4 жыл бұрын
It would be nice episode for an april fools though
@raphaelrae8186
@raphaelrae8186 4 жыл бұрын
He's a historian, not a comedian.
@manishbhat8570
@manishbhat8570 4 жыл бұрын
@@raphaelrae8186 kzbin.info/www/bejne/pZ2vm4uPgMuIj6M
@raphaelrae8186
@raphaelrae8186 4 жыл бұрын
@@manishbhat8570 It's a link right to my own channel. What do you mean by that?
@manishbhat8570
@manishbhat8570 4 жыл бұрын
@@raphaelrae8186 uhhh it's supposed to be the link to Ian's video from April fools day last year. The one on the Municion LMP
@dndboy13
@dndboy13 8 жыл бұрын
"Barbour, there is no way you'll get someone to buy that piece of shit" "haha wanna bet"
@dndboy13
@dndboy13 8 жыл бұрын
alternatively it coulda been made by some super avant garde gunsmith at the front of a odd firearms fauvist movement or something
@dannylamb456
@dannylamb456 6 жыл бұрын
"No, no, it's supposed to look like a piece of shit."
@filmandfirearms
@filmandfirearms 3 жыл бұрын
This is actually genius. Imagine you're on deployment and you see this abomination. It's so ridiculous, I think most people would be begging to take it home with them
@dassmith
@dassmith 5 жыл бұрын
My God man! You've got a 1561 Martini Henry on your hands! That's the most incredible find in recorded history! And you can tell it's real because they wrote backwards back then.
@kevinoliver3083
@kevinoliver3083 10 ай бұрын
So you mean it was actually made in 1651! Clearly that makes it much more believable 😅
@BallisticBBQ
@BallisticBBQ 8 жыл бұрын
I've been enjoying the hell out of this channel. I too am intrigued by these strange, crude weapons.
@okduckslayer13
@okduckslayer13 8 жыл бұрын
+Ballistic BBQ One of my favorite channels commenting on one of my other favorite channels!
@BallisticBBQ
@BallisticBBQ 8 жыл бұрын
+okduckslayer13 Thanks!
@zxbzxbzxb1
@zxbzxbzxb1 6 жыл бұрын
Ballistic BBQ Calling this particular ghastly monstrosity a weapon is perhaps putting it a bit strongly but agree it's totally a great channel!
@siddasgupta679
@siddasgupta679 5 жыл бұрын
This channel should teach everyone that making guns illegal is just foolishness. Its really not too hard to make a gun.
@CarterG4Y
@CarterG4Y 4 жыл бұрын
Tourist: "I want an Enfield" Local: "I hear that shop sells one" Enfield in that shop:
@svrona7696
@svrona7696 3 жыл бұрын
''Mom can we have Martini Henry?!! ''No we have Martini Henry at home.'' Martini Henry at home:
@Voltaic_Fire
@Voltaic_Fire 3 жыл бұрын
"Gunsmith" is an extraordinarily generous way to refer to the people who made that eyesore.
@sambakich7494
@sambakich7494 4 жыл бұрын
I unironically want a safe to fire version of this
@sampointau
@sampointau 4 жыл бұрын
Funnily enough, I have seen a pistol very similar that dates from the Early 1900's but designed to fire a 410 shotgun cartridge! It was used/sold as an anti bandit gun.
@johnmcclain3887
@johnmcclain3887 Жыл бұрын
I've had a single shot derringer that fires a 45 long Colt or 410 shotshell for about forty years. I've killed several dozen snakes with it on our creek-side home as my wife and I cleared decades of overgrowth from the woods on our land. Mine was made in the seventies or eighties, quite good quality even if a bit crude looking.
@wolffpup245
@wolffpup245 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like a cut-down Greener Shotgun, potentially. They were used all across the British sphere in the Middle East and India as police shotguns, converted from Martini-Henry rifles.
@clownworld4655
@clownworld4655 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like a shitty anti bandit gun. .410 is a terrible shell for anything larger than small game
@hungryburger1170
@hungryburger1170 10 ай бұрын
For when you want to blow someone's mind with pocket pump action
@rejmons1
@rejmons1 9 жыл бұрын
I suspect, a seller in Kabul or in Kandahar said: "Och sir! This is the remains of 66th (Berkshire) Regiment of Foot taken straight from the field of The Battle of Maiwand on 27 July 1880! Look here! All those brands are poore British! Afghan warrior from Mountain wept tears bitterly when he sold me this pistol! And I do not know why I wont to sell you this treasure for such a low price! My children will curse me to the end of their days!"
@1r0zz
@1r0zz 5 жыл бұрын
@Max Wylde I do not think a 1870 autentic rifle would cost 300 €...
@1r0zz
@1r0zz 5 жыл бұрын
@Max Wylde well, yeah, in awful condition you can get them for that cheap. but they are in awful condition so it's not a great deal. unless there are plans to restore the gun to shape, but then it's not "original" anymore (but it could be used for shooting without much remorse or for display). on the RIA website a Enfield Martini-Henry Mk I (should be from 1873) in good conditions have an estimated price from 2500$ to 4000$ (2200€ to 3500€ circa)... you could get a cheaper price buyind directly from a person or a shop tho, but if he/them knows/know what he/them is/are dealing the price goes obviously up...
@AgentTasmania
@AgentTasmania 3 жыл бұрын
A true Dibbler
@johnmurdock3471
@johnmurdock3471 3 жыл бұрын
In 1976 I visited the Imperial War Museum in London and they had one of these Martini Henry "pistols". It was, of course, actually made from a Martini Henry rifle back in that era. The lever had been shaped like this one to fit the simple wooden grip that had been fitted to the mechanism. I'm sure it would have been safe to fire--if you make sure your head isn't in the way of the pistol as it recoils backwards. I've fired a Smith & Wesson 50 cal revolver and I'd imagine that a 45 cal black powder rifle cartridge would have an equal or greater kick to it. What surprises me is that the Khyber Pass fake weapons production has done a copy of what was most likely a very unusual conversion (rifle to pistol) done back in the late 1880s.
@andgalactus1
@andgalactus1 7 жыл бұрын
Is it just me or does this gun look bent, like it would shoot downward if you fired it.
@c0leslaw922
@c0leslaw922 7 жыл бұрын
yea... it kinda does
@professionalpussypetter2929
@professionalpussypetter2929 6 жыл бұрын
andgalactus1 no that's what it supposed to like. It help deal with the accuracy.
@billt7283
@billt7283 6 жыл бұрын
andgalactus1 if you’ve ever shot a handgun, a lot of these old ones especially, shoot high. So it is supposed to help with accuracy
@michaelbritt7609
@michaelbritt7609 5 жыл бұрын
Compensates for recoil ;)
@CAESARbonds
@CAESARbonds 5 жыл бұрын
That is to compensate recoil. With the right training you can’t miss
@EchosTackyTiki
@EchosTackyTiki Жыл бұрын
5:08 I don't know, Ian, the idea of a Martini action chambered in .303 Brit in a pistol format is definitely an idea I've never seen from anyone else before. It may be the answer to a question that no one asked, but _original_ it certainly is.
@sevenpointsixtwo
@sevenpointsixtwo 9 жыл бұрын
a .303 pistol made in the khyber pass,no thanks i like my hand.
@Snandra66
@Snandra66 9 жыл бұрын
sevenpointsixtwo I like my arm... And my face... Preferably on my body...
@raptorcell6633
@raptorcell6633 5 жыл бұрын
At least it isnt BMG....
@patriotenfield3276
@patriotenfield3276 4 жыл бұрын
Wanna try country made .303 katta
@TWiGsADV707
@TWiGsADV707 9 жыл бұрын
For me.. my love of guns comes from the fact that firearms are amazing machines.. all these often tiny moving bits, one working with the next, all in sync, to activate and contain an explosion from a super fast chemical reaction, meant to propel a chunk of heavy stuff far far away.... all while (hopefully) keeping the user safe. You bring to my screen a whole slew of these wonderful machines that I would never get the chance to see, let alone be shown how they work. I thank you greatly for that!!
@fordhemi789
@fordhemi789 6 жыл бұрын
TWiGs ADV - Keep Off The Pavement Same here!
@FoxHoot
@FoxHoot 4 жыл бұрын
Nobody: The guy who stamped Enfield on this: So anyway, I started Enfielding
@jk-76
@jk-76 7 жыл бұрын
Soldiers were clamoring for these things. I LOVE the Dura market guns. I've seen some fantastic guns built by people who can't even read...
@jk-76
@jk-76 7 жыл бұрын
Dan Volkov I was last there in 2011. Pretty sure I do have pictures, but who knows where.
@tjp353
@tjp353 7 жыл бұрын
+Name Surname Just search yt for Khybar Pass firearm production videos. The presentation quality of their workmanship is sometimes outstanding, although the strength & durability of the materials used is anyone's guess. You see these shoddy little backstreet workshops in action, tribal villagers sat cross-legged on a dirt floor next to a vice, each filing or polishing different components. An old man with his long beard dangerously close to an ancient lathe, turning barrels. Etc. It's fascinating to watch.
@tjp353
@tjp353 7 жыл бұрын
+Name Surname "Light Engineering In Darra Adam Khel, Pakistan amazig" - is a title of one video of a Khybar Pass workshop.
@jk-76
@jk-76 7 жыл бұрын
JCBAirmaster73 you have to see them shooting these things to believe it. The master gun builders there are insane. They come up with the coolest shit...
@jk-76
@jk-76 7 жыл бұрын
JCBAirmaster73 to tell you the truth they don't make half bad barrels. Understand, they were never told they couldn't so they just figured it out...
@shdowhunt60
@shdowhunt60 9 жыл бұрын
That's actually pretty cool from an artistic perspective. You can tell whoever made this that they had fun with the stampings.
@a_Minion_of_Soros
@a_Minion_of_Soros Жыл бұрын
The Bob Ross School of Markings...
@Arthurzeiro
@Arthurzeiro 9 жыл бұрын
Enfield Enfield Enfield, almost as good as the Chinese Brownings Brownings Brownings .
@sumvs5992
@sumvs5992 3 жыл бұрын
I prefer the FN FN FN FAL
@DavidCowie2022
@DavidCowie2022 3 жыл бұрын
Wauser make the best pistols.
@ianfinrir8724
@ianfinrir8724 3 жыл бұрын
Like my Sorny stereo
@epauletshark3793
@epauletshark3793 3 жыл бұрын
I now crave brownies.
@AtlasJotun
@AtlasJotun 2 жыл бұрын
@@DavidCowie2022 Cold hard fact.
@Incredible_username
@Incredible_username 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I’ve come to expect from these extinguished gentlemen of kyber pass
@brianross5417
@brianross5417 3 жыл бұрын
If you ever come across one, I'd love to see an episode examining a Kabul Arsenal martini - which were made in 303. British tooling, engineers and trainers for the local techs. Definitely not junk copies.
@orrebiff
@orrebiff 9 жыл бұрын
i like how a bore thats in the center is a nice touch xD
@mosinnagant7800
@mosinnagant7800 9 жыл бұрын
ALMOST in the center. LMAO! :D You couldn't pay me to fire that thing unless it was with a really long string, and I was behind a really big tree.
@Xc31
@Xc31 9 жыл бұрын
Mosin Nagant I would pay to shoot it with a string from behind a tree as long as it has high speed camera's pointed at it. I think you could make a nice bet out of it, will it blow up on first shot, and if not, how many can it take?
@oz_jones
@oz_jones 8 жыл бұрын
+Xc31 Somebody call Mythbusters
@Bluith
@Bluith 9 жыл бұрын
Man that thing looks so dopey would love to see it blow up in a vice in slow motion, you must buy it for science Ian.
@fratercontenduntocculta8161
@fratercontenduntocculta8161 4 жыл бұрын
Khyber Pass guns are truly my favorite type of obscure guns because of the crazy mashups of features not found on the originals. I once saw an underfolder AK-74 copy. If you didn’t already know, they were never made in Russia with underfolding stocks, but side folding triangular ones.
@confusedaxolotl7833
@confusedaxolotl7833 3 жыл бұрын
"Welcome to Khyber Pass, where guns go to die and be questionably reborn."
@madgeordie4290
@madgeordie4290 9 жыл бұрын
I can honestly say that that thing looks like one of the most dangerous items I have ever seen. It is more of a pipe bomb than a pistol and looks like it was made, not in a machine shop, but a blacksmiths forge. Just the thought of firing a round like .303 British out of a contraption like that is putting chills down my spine.
@paulfabrique5055
@paulfabrique5055 9 жыл бұрын
For students of Khyber pass weaponry, I recommend a film made after these fine weapons called "Carry on up the Khyber"
@JayGlascoe
@JayGlascoe 11 күн бұрын
9 years later... For some reason KZbin has been putting this video at the top of my feed for a week now. So like a pop song stuck in my head, Imma watch just to make it go away.
@masonblackmon7756
@masonblackmon7756 6 жыл бұрын
I’m so glad you’ve upgraded your sound equipment since this was filmed
@SkidinDingo
@SkidinDingo 9 жыл бұрын
i was grinning through this whole video, then i just lost it at "the bore is -almost- centered in the barrel, a nice touch."
@professorpewpuew
@professorpewpuew 9 жыл бұрын
Look at that wide headspace!
@ForgottenWeapons
@ForgottenWeapons 9 жыл бұрын
To be fair, that is the space for the rim of the .303 cartridge, and is appropriate.
@imajeenyus42
@imajeenyus42 9 жыл бұрын
Forgotten Weapons Speaking of which, maybe you can enlighten me on something I've never quite understood with Martini-Henries: is the entire rear of the cartridge face fully supported by the face of the breechblock when the action is closed? As far as I can tell from photos, the breechblock pivot is pretty much on the barrel centerline. Yet, for the breechblock to rotate downward around that point, the upper front would have to be relieved to clear the cartridge rear, which means it's not fully supported. I hope that makes some sense! I'd really like to see an original CAD drawing (well, alright, not exactly CAD in those days....) of a MH action.....
@ForgottenWeapons
@ForgottenWeapons 9 жыл бұрын
***** www.rifleman.org.uk/Martini-Henry_action.htm
@imajeenyus42
@imajeenyus42 9 жыл бұрын
Forgotten Weapons Thanks for the link - that's the best diagram I've seen so far. So it looks like the "knuckle" is level with the _top_ of the chamber, rather than the middle - that would explain how the block is free to rotate downwards. However, it looks like some fraction of the force would then be transmitted down through the locking lever. Probably not much, given the small angle it's at. I really want to make a model of this action some day ;-) Just saw you had a video on the Lee 1875 - will go and watch that now.
@imajeenyus42
@imajeenyus42 9 жыл бұрын
Forgotten Weapons Have you ever come across a Peabody rifle?
@johnsamu
@johnsamu 7 жыл бұрын
Manufacturing date "1561"?? A little bit early in the history of firearms ;-)
@benhughes6090
@benhughes6090 7 жыл бұрын
Henry the 8th had a revolver before this date
@vanargrand3199
@vanargrand3199 7 жыл бұрын
Didn't he also invent air?
@theoldehandgonne2503
@theoldehandgonne2503 5 жыл бұрын
And it's rather strange to think that guns existed over 350 years before that!
@gregb6469
@gregb6469 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe it means 15 June 2001.
@userequaltoNull
@userequaltoNull 4 жыл бұрын
This very well might have been the date from a different starting point than the birth of christ. What that date is I have no idea.
@jonnyrenfrow6216
@jonnyrenfrow6216 7 жыл бұрын
Answer your phone Ian
@elektro3000
@elektro3000 9 жыл бұрын
That thing is hilarious! Sort of a Khyber version of an Obrez pistol, except made by a long lost twin to the guy who built that Chinese BrowningsBrowningsBrownings pistol!
@WeWillAlwaysHaveVALIS
@WeWillAlwaysHaveVALIS 9 жыл бұрын
Forgotten Weapons Fantastic stuff dude, I've been fortunate to see a couple of Khyber Pass weapons that have been brought back by friends of mine in the service (hush hush, it's a lot more grey than it is stateside) and I've generally been very impressed with the craftsmanship on them. One was a Enfield MK5 copy (God knows what one of those was doing in Afghanistan to begin with!) and it was seriously on par with the quality of the pieces I have seen in the Royal Armoury Museum (somewhere that I'd highly recommend a visit to if you ever come to the UK, there are some pieces that'd likely make you shit a brick) or the Imperial War Museum (another location I'd highly recommend, doubly so if you've an interest in military vehicles as well, they've Monty's command tank, a HE 162 Volksjager and a daft amount more). Of course I'm not sure how i'd compare it's innards with the actual article as I'd dare not take it apart and I've had no opportunity to do so with the official article, but it really did seem on par. Please keep posting interesting and peculiar items, it's the main reason I like your channel as much as I do. Curious items from 19th century Europe would deffo be appreciated (like those harmonica guns). So yes, thank you for allowing someone who has no access to firearms whatsoever continue to explore them as a hobby.
@ryanphillips4123
@ryanphillips4123 4 жыл бұрын
Even this guy's 5 year old videos are genuinely entertaining.
@SgtKOnyx
@SgtKOnyx 8 жыл бұрын
This was one of my first videos from this channel. I'm glad I watched it!
@mcopado
@mcopado 7 жыл бұрын
I know this is old... but I kept waiting and waiting to hear the magic line "I wouldn't recommend you fire this." And when you finally said it I totally burst out laughing.
@robertgonzales8478
@robertgonzales8478 7 жыл бұрын
Did you ever answer the phone?
@eicdesigner
@eicdesigner 4 жыл бұрын
"The bore is ALMOST centered in the barrel, which is a nice touch." Man, that just made me chuckle.
@MazeMaker4Life
@MazeMaker4Life 2 жыл бұрын
Whoever stamped that gun was high AF
@kpsadventures
@kpsadventures 5 жыл бұрын
"The bore is almost centered in the barrel which is a nice touch." LOL
@alkestos
@alkestos 3 жыл бұрын
"Bore is almost centered in the barrel... which is a nice touch." Yeah we've been so badly spoiled here in the west, having the gull to expect centered bores and all...
@piatpotatopeon8305
@piatpotatopeon8305 3 жыл бұрын
This video put visiting the scenic Khyber Pass on my bucket list.
@aggie427
@aggie427 6 жыл бұрын
I like all the crude handmade guns you show.
@NJPurling
@NJPurling 9 жыл бұрын
That pistol makes creating an 'Obrez' pistol from a damaged Nagant in a Stalingrad basement seem like the heights of technical sophistication. At least the action of the Nagant is hardened steel. Will it chamber and eject a dummy .303 round? It is totally obvious this pistol is not to be fired.
@PKPK-rr3rs
@PKPK-rr3rs 5 жыл бұрын
4:51 "The bore is almost centered in the barrel, which is a nice touch." Lol
@RiflemanMoore
@RiflemanMoore 7 жыл бұрын
The markings are great! If only the proof house at Enfield had really been this artistic...
@alexjohnson280
@alexjohnson280 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting comments here from a lot of folks who probably have never picked up a metal file in their lives. Considering that piece was largely handmade by simple hand tools in primitive condition I would say the craftsman who built it was not some unskilled hack, give them a little credit where it is due. Would I shoot it, no, but I can certainly appreciate the effort that went into building it.
@lesbiansaregoodandch
@lesbiansaregoodandch 5 жыл бұрын
I would love a shootable version of that gun. I love the idea of having a rifle cartridge in a pistol, the idea always intrigued the shit out of me.
@HalfWolf2
@HalfWolf2 2 жыл бұрын
A multitude of such weapons exist, from stuff like the original sawed off obrez to newer stuff like that one single shot tank piercer in 50. BMG to midline stuff like the AM III
@baroque4days
@baroque4days 4 жыл бұрын
Me: Mom, I want Enfield Mom: We have Enfield at home The Enfield at home:
@anthonyhertlein4629
@anthonyhertlein4629 4 жыл бұрын
I find myself coming back just to listen to the intro music more often than I'd like to admit
@forestchicken3302
@forestchicken3302 7 жыл бұрын
that was very informative. I did a couple deployments to Afghanistan and there were a lot of firearms like this. thanks for great video
@electronicdawg
@electronicdawg 8 жыл бұрын
Give ya 10 bucks for it.
@whatisthis839
@whatisthis839 8 жыл бұрын
+Electronicdawg Thrift store would be a better home for this thing.
@electronicdawg
@electronicdawg 8 жыл бұрын
+Asher Davis Might make a good door stop.
@Nukle0n
@Nukle0n 8 жыл бұрын
+Electronicdawg I'll pay you 20 bucks to fire it.
@exJacktar
@exJacktar 9 жыл бұрын
Haha I remember seeing crap like this at the bazar at Kandahar Airfield. There was always something in the "antique" line, be it coins or guns etc. And yes, I did see more than one happy coalition serviceman buying and walking out with junk like this on a Saturday afternoon. BTW, Ian. Your pronunciation of "Regina" is slightly off. Try Ree-g-hi-na instead of Ree-gee-na At least, that's how we pronounce the name of the capital of Saskatchewan, Regina. And it was named in honour of Queen Victoria.
@joshuakuehn
@joshuakuehn 3 жыл бұрын
Saskatchewanis have frogs for tongues, listen not to their pronunciation.
@johnbarnhardt3425
@johnbarnhardt3425 5 жыл бұрын
I have one that a gunsmith buddy re-barrelled in 45LC. It now sports a 10" bull barrel and a rear, adjustable aperture sight. It shoots very well.
@disgruntledgames
@disgruntledgames 3 жыл бұрын
He kept getting a call during filming. I bet it was the gunsmith to say this was 100% legit antique Enfield 333333333333
@CaptainScorchMane
@CaptainScorchMane 9 жыл бұрын
Well. I found my next holiday destination. Better pack sunscreen, body armour, and a small militia.
@Tezipezi
@Tezipezi 8 жыл бұрын
the phone going off lmao
@kentuckyboy541
@kentuckyboy541 6 жыл бұрын
Dale Gribble you sir are my nemesis....
@merajkhalidkhan
@merajkhalidkhan 4 жыл бұрын
I used to have two of them. I can't forget that strong powerful sound.
@thomasborgsmidt9801
@thomasborgsmidt9801 5 жыл бұрын
I really like the band aid on Your left thumb - indicating a somewhat unsafe weapon - likely to turn and bite its owner rather than the nasty enemy.
@PhuVet
@PhuVet 8 жыл бұрын
seen one of these in Afghanistan, was used by a kid to try to put a hole in a buddies body armor., never went off but had a 303 in the chamber... no firing pin.
@floo1465
@floo1465 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your service.
@raphaelchagas1676
@raphaelchagas1676 7 жыл бұрын
I sense Battlefield 1 DLC with this coming.
@luansagara
@luansagara 5 жыл бұрын
As accurate as the game itself!
@falloutghoul1
@falloutghoul1 5 жыл бұрын
Ottoman Empire exclusive!
@viagrabuffalo5141
@viagrabuffalo5141 2 жыл бұрын
Took me a few minutes to realize just how insane this demon gun really is.
@blaisems
@blaisems 4 жыл бұрын
This is the gunsmithing equivalent to the "All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy" scene in The Shining
@doyouhavegainsonyourphone4507
@doyouhavegainsonyourphone4507 5 жыл бұрын
“1561 is not an appropriate date” LOL
@alharthy50
@alharthy50 9 жыл бұрын
i can imagine the recoil on this one
@turdfurg47
@turdfurg47 4 жыл бұрын
Dude the khyber pass is awesome i got an antique enfield and a pair of air jorbams all at the same shop
@TheGuy030770
@TheGuy030770 5 жыл бұрын
0:12 Your intro of the bolt coming out of battery on that rifle scared the hell out of me!
@DingoAteMeBaby
@DingoAteMeBaby 7 жыл бұрын
were breech locks phased out within 10 years? Lever action with a tubular magazine seems way more effective
@fdsdh1
@fdsdh1 7 жыл бұрын
Conner K Ward militaries didn't like tubular magazines so these sort of one shot rifles lasted for quite a while. Tubular magazines are pretty unreliable, you can't have spitzer bullets either, but that was an issue later on the 19th century. most lever actions with tubular magazines use quite small cartridges, not sure why this is, the odd shape of early rifle cartridges particularly like that of the Martini wouldn't work well in a tube mag
@jasonkoestner4630
@jasonkoestner4630 7 жыл бұрын
fdsdh1
@FUBARGunpla
@FUBARGunpla 7 жыл бұрын
oh my god random person stop phoning ian he's teaching us about bootleg guns!!
@conmcgrath7502
@conmcgrath7502 5 жыл бұрын
'the bore is almost centered in the barrel, which is a nice touch....' that's sarcasm right there, at it's finest.
@gnarshread
@gnarshread 7 жыл бұрын
whoever made that must have one hell of a sense of humor.
@barrymccaulkiner4232
@barrymccaulkiner4232 7 жыл бұрын
battlefield 1 DLC????
@alimax1653
@alimax1653 7 жыл бұрын
Ian Pemberton
@gmg921
@gmg921 7 жыл бұрын
no stop
@Fridgemasters
@Fridgemasters 7 жыл бұрын
gmg921 It will never end
@freddieelohopea6961
@freddieelohopea6961 7 жыл бұрын
its time to stop
@zainrizwan2144
@zainrizwan2144 7 жыл бұрын
Ian Pemberton that would be awsome
@thegermanstromtrooper197
@thegermanstromtrooper197 4 жыл бұрын
I'm going to the khyber pass to tell them if they could make me a Hellrigel M1915
@wildwyatxbox
@wildwyatxbox 3 жыл бұрын
Just show them the very few real images of it's internals. Then let them do their thing.
@23t22
@23t22 5 жыл бұрын
I know I can't be the only person who really only watches Ian's videos at 2 or 3am
@DMX-PAT
@DMX-PAT 5 жыл бұрын
that thing is crazy man, seriously cool stuff!!!
@segua
@segua 9 жыл бұрын
Who's calling?
@Raguleader
@Raguleader 9 жыл бұрын
Jose That would be the fine people at the Khyber Division of EnfieldEnfieldEnfield, trying to contact Forgotten Weapons about a safety recall involving one of their pistols...
@NoirPooperBR
@NoirPooperBR 8 жыл бұрын
wow, that's some nice junk
@richardklauke2418
@richardklauke2418 3 жыл бұрын
Nor_Ktm Now that sounds just like a lustful comment made by the wide-eyed starlet of a grade D port flick as she pulled Ron Jeremy's shorts to his ankles.......
@taylorrhodes1895
@taylorrhodes1895 5 жыл бұрын
The sound of Ian opening & closing that breech sounded so satisfying lol idk why.....it just sounded crisp and good lol
@EnriqueJColl
@EnriqueJColl 7 жыл бұрын
I like your videos. Professional and clear.
@eangdaniec8515
@eangdaniec8515 7 жыл бұрын
Why exactly would the gun blow up? Would the recoil and inner explosion be too much, break the breach, and then what?
@ForgottenWeapons
@ForgottenWeapons 7 жыл бұрын
Either the breech ring would be unable to hold the pressure of firing, or the unsupported section of the case between the chamber and breechblock would rupture on firing.
@eangdaniec8515
@eangdaniec8515 7 жыл бұрын
Forgotten Weapons Thank you, are tourists notified of this on purchase?
@ForgottenWeapons
@ForgottenWeapons 7 жыл бұрын
Probably wouldn't get a good price if they did...
@flatjoker600
@flatjoker600 7 жыл бұрын
Khyber Pass Copies are made with what ever local materials are available. That Includes Bad Quality Steel unsuitable for anything Else. Obviously those things cannot handle the Pressure of the guns firing. Now for Tourists being informed, officially only Tribal People and Pakistani Citizens can Buy those guns. But If you give the Tribal Police some "TEA MONEY", they look the other way and a collector can be on their merry way.
@crazypath573
@crazypath573 7 жыл бұрын
I am guessing its becaue the BARREL IS CROOKED lol
@LexieAssassin
@LexieAssassin 7 жыл бұрын
Please tell me I'm not the only one bothered by the phone vibrating...
@loupiscanis9449
@loupiscanis9449 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you , Ian .
@MrEvanfriend
@MrEvanfriend 7 жыл бұрын
I love the upside down ENFIELD stamping.
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