Kia EV6 77 kWh RWD 1000 km challenge

[@anthonyperini3352]

Just had my EV6 serviced and they have added pre-heating linked to charger destinations on the Kia map

[@hape4]

You actually had me laugh so hard while trying to eat the salty stuff… Its already a very good car as it is, and I love it, but if KIA keeps the promise to implement the preheat function it would be great. Wanna see the 230 in the display!

[@Crazypostman]

For the busy station delays maybe on your final results just note both times, the original time and then a Time subtracting the delays. That will also help us gauge how bad congestion is getting over the coming years.

[@bjornnyland]

It's not that easy. I spent a lot of time shooting video in two languages.

[@jasonblair4057]

Nice job. I watched a similar test on an Australian channel and it charged like a boss at every stop. So in warm weather this car performs as people expect but no so much when it’s colder. Let’s see the preheating update soon KIA before it gets too warm.

[@Bultish]

That torture session though 😂😂

[@SilverfoxThe]

Only the Scandinavians could make salted fish confectionary!! Nice video - an EV is in my future and an EV6 is definitely on my list.

[@benoitsigwald6383]

Hello Bjorn, Thank you for bringing so much tests and efforts to help us all chose the right EV. I have been driving a model s since 2015. At that time there were no choices but Tesla for relative long distance. In France where I leave, supercharger start to be installed near ionity and others. I see how much struggle non Tesla users have to get a charging session, like in this test. So my point is that if we want a realistic estimate of the time it takes to do 1000km I would suggest to had in your spreadsheet 2 extra columns one for total driving time (including session issues) and total minutes deducted. My car has free supercharger, so I even wonder why I should change it really...

[@_kj2]

Also had charging issues with Fastned/ Maingau two weeks ago. Fastned customer services and Maingau tell me the Maingau RFID works on the Fastned network. Charger says; RFID not accepted. Hate all these different back-offices that don't work with every freaking charger..

[@Marco_Dubbleyou]

Björn, a very important question here. The time you spend on dealing with the charger, was it 20 minxh/h?

[@MaurizioLattuada]

19:10 classic example of “2 unit tests, 0 integration tests”

[@JazzMachine77]

Software engineer? =) Classic example indeed!

[@MaurizioLattuada]

@@JazzMachine77 Software test engineer :)

[@JazzMachine77]

@@MaurizioLattuada Nice!

[@y_y_zed]

24:20-25:00 had me crying I was laughing so hard. I know I shouldn't laugh at your pain... but that shiieeeetttt was hilarious!

[@Jonathan-un4yy]

Hope the livestreams will be back soon!

[@ashton9699]

@@Pete856 man had covid so I imagine having to talk for 12+ hours straight isn't exactly pleasant while still recovering.

[@justcruisin109]

Shows you how important the user interface is in making your journey stressless. I guess I could do the mental calculations if I had to but it would annoy my wife. The charging process is almost seemless with the Tesla network. If using the other networks you often need their app on your phone or a linked RFID card for each network and that would be a pain. They should just implement a “tap and go” model. Cheers

[@demoniack81]

@@rogerstarkey5390 More importantly, contactless payments have existed for *15 years* at this point. How fucking hard is it to just put a POS in every charger, just like self service fuel stations? It should just be made mandatory by law at this point, because it's clear the industry doesn't give a crap. Starting January 2023 either you have a credit card reader in your charger or you have to make it free, and if you're found with non-compliant chargers you get fined 100€ per charger per day. You'll see how quickly they fix this mess. Also asking every charger to accept cash is unreasonable, but you should be able to buy anonymous prepaid "charge cards" in a store if you don't want to be tracked all the time.

[@jadziadax8658]

I really can't wait until the preheating software update is rolled out. It's promised before next winter.

[@Aier0]

Hey Björn, I think the EV6 and the IONIQ5 both have torque based sensors on the steering wheel. Therefore it is shaking a little bit in order to sense if you are holding the wheel. This seems like a bad implementation of the sensor, however if you put a slight amount of pressure on the steering wheel, the shaking will stop in my experience. Anyway thanks for the video!

[@bjornnyland]

Nope. It's the same even if I hold the steering wheel.

[@adrianguggisberg3656]

@@bjornnyland Nope, he's right. I can actually stop my I5's steering wheel wobble easily just by holding it with my thumb and index finger. Also stops the car from swaying and tumbling around and it will no longer bug you with "hold steering wheel" messages. Was exactly the same with my 28kwh Ioniq.

[@ndc5544p]

I have the same issue with that style of chargers in Germany (18:35) with my zoe. Some of them work, others just read the SoC and then just stop. Edit: 10h 15m is impressive in spite of coldgating.

[@bjornnyland]

*10h10m

[@LivinginNorthernNJ]

Your mouth sore portion!!! I’m rolling with laughter! That pain is the worst. You’re hilarious!

[@jumpman83]

I'm in tears over here 🤣

[@LivinginNorthernNJ]

@@jumpman83 ME TOO!!! HAH HAH HAH!!!

[@Crazypostman]

I do the same thing rub table salt right in it, the burn is so good! feels better afterwards.

[@Tanel3]

Ioniq 5 seems to suffer from the same autosteer micro adjustment issue. Kona is much better in that sense. I really hope they can sort it out.

[@luisPcordeiro]

I believe that the micro-corrections are the mecanism to detect you have the hands on the wheel.

[@Banzai83]

It’s not an issue it’s how it works. Just need to get use to it. Works perfect 👍

[@MihneaStoian]

On the I5 RWD I've noticed that for every 5C lower temperature you have to add about 1kW/100km in consumption mainly due to the heating, but probably also due to the lower battery capacity. The EV6 RWD seems to be about the same as the I5 RWD, which makes sense. Can't wait for the preheating update, will make taking trips in winter faster.

[@danedane6613]

I miss the live streams :)

[@MANdoesminecraft]

I'm not sure if you know but he has a dedicated livestream channel: kzbin.info

[@Jonathan-un4yy]

@@MANdoesminecraft but the problem is he is not live in the live Chanel anymore

[@danedane6613]

@@MANdoesminecraft I know, but there haven’t been any live stream from the EV6 and the EQB 🙂

[@RockyMountainTesla]

Too many EV’s to review!

[@samusaran7317]

@@RockyMountainTeslaNot really when most are clones of each other.

[@unas3000]

If you need an idea for a video. I'm going to drive from Finland to Sweden and Norway next summer. It would be great if you could tell what chargers you have there, which app do you need, does chargemap pass work, can you use a regular credit card and so on.

[@schunkelndedschunke6914]

The autosteer movement is a savety feature for not falling into sleep. 😅

[@commanderroddi7742]

also, as of 2023, I do believe KIA fixed the HDA2 that its pretty centered without adjusting all the time.

[@johnbev2336]

I love watching your videos, can the car not navigate to charging stops, if not familiar with area.

[@cypercharged]

My girlfriend is misophonic (can’t withstand the noise of someone eating loudly) so I have to wait for the night to watch your videos

[@nilsen39]

EV-charging station system with apps, sms and scanning codes etc... This exactly why I just bought a tesla model y. In 5-6 years, I will reconsider for my next car, but as for right now in Norway, the network for EV chargers, and the state of them (read: some are always broken), makes owning a non-tesla a horrible experience. The typical experience: You arrive to a place to charge: There are 2 EV chargers, and 20 Tesla chargers. There is a huge queue for the the EV-chargers, and one of them is surely out of service, and only 3-4 people charging their Teslas while enjoying life.

[@benoitsigwald6383]

I agree, the full ev experience is based too on supercharger time. Now that the Tesla SC are opening to other cars this will change maybe. Bit I see so many folks struggling to get their charging sessions on I wander why they don't chose Tesla even if I have loads of complaints on my 2015 modem s. I do enjoy the free SC for life. Even Electricity charges are going up.

[@ThePeterOlausson]

Regarding the charge issues in Kungsbacka, there are 6 150kW chargers at the OKQ8 stn some km away from this site

[@gianlucamucciarelli8848]

Hi Bjørn. Which cars can heat the battery? We always talk about the importance of cooling the battery and this is right especially in summer and in hot Countries but is equally important to warm up the battery in the winter months. Thank you.

[@alexhaddock4554]

Supposedly an update is coming for EV6 and Ioniq 5 that will allow this. Certainly Tesla and Taycan can preheat when navigating to a high power charger but I think BMW is doing it best by giving the option to manually preheat. Why they can’t all add that 🤷‍♂️. Even a 50kW is even slower if you battery is freezing and you didn’t have access to destination charging or a long drive to it.

[@marconrustNL]

Haha, I LOL'ed so hard when you ate that salty stuff that even my wife wanted to see what happened 😂😂

[@maxpionier5241]

Bjørn if you use zendium toothpaste you won't get those sores in the mouth, I used to get them alot but not anymore!

[@theb9902]

So, charge planning with an EV6 is basically solving a differential equation system

[@MrJanJunker]

Damm. (tesla owner) Impressing how bad the navigation for charging works. It is quite simple in a Tesla. This part is important for owners to move them to the EV world.

[@fubee8210]

Just bought me EV 6 today, now the waiting game starts. Estimated delivery time 6 month.

[@toomasargel8503]

22:06 How save power... Great there is Ferry !

[@fanimej]

Always go garlic sauce and spicy mustard! Its the way to go!

[@ufleyenlerkulubu8757]

this green color is amazing

[@elbilspektrum]

"I dont know if bimelim og bumelum".. "OK, we have been charging for 19 minutes now" Bumelum it was..

[@LowOnCash]

Great video I noticed at one of your stops 10:38 you mentioned the battery heater was on and it raised to 30. How did you engage the heater or did you just turn on the cabin heater? Also when charging in cold weather does that engage the heater on the EV6 Thanks

[@buddifar]

what is the songtitle of that song used in the start of the video 1:58 ???? love your content bjørn , keep up the good work 😉

[@jacoblerklint5770]

Dont stop by J.A.K

[@eirik500]

Windchill effect at 120 km/h, 33/ms at 3 C is around -11 C. No wonder why battery temp falls. But the BMW iX and Teslas do so much better, so a huge omittance by Kia at the moment. Good to hear them fix it.

[@denveroilers9458]

Wind chill will have no effect on battery, only on your bare skin, same reason a thermometer temp will not rise or fall with the wind.

[@eirik500]

@@denveroilers9458 How would you explain how an air cooled engine or a air cooling a computer works?

[@therandomtester9561]

I've had similar problems with Recharge/Fortum. Seems to be some problem with the payment/card registration. Can't believe how little userfriendly the system is. You have the app, used it before and think everything is good to charge again. Then suddenly you get problems and must mess around with app, card, maby call the customer service and get no good information. All that time spent NOT charging, and then you (hopefully) can charge afterwards.. Would be really nice if the charger at least started charging. As a registrered customer, if there is something wrong with card-registration, that can be sorted out during charging, or many many days after as they know who is connecting to the charger.. I wouldn't have any problems calling customer-service as long as my car was charging, but to have to call to make it work, when the charger is not defective... *facepalm*

[@sacharanc]

car of the year that cannot even manage its battery temperature!!

[@ventsislavkirkov]

Sad indeed...

[@sacharanc]

Soon it will apparently but then the power consumption will be how much and then the rapid gating that will happen?

[@tiesto1102]

Should have been megane e tech!

[@leeprevost7639]

Preheating is coming as an update on all models.

[@sacharanc]

@@leeprevost7639 yes but no octovalve ;-) si 10 years backs! 😂

[@RENAULTOlivier]

this car seems to be "not finished" : cold gate, bad navigation system, bad efficiency, etc. But it can charge very fast! Next generation of hyundai kia will maybe be the good one

[@sverreraddum456]

Great like always..best kind of infotainment.. 🙂Thanks Björn 🙂

[@jays3216]

Hey Bjorn. I love your videos and watch them as I await delivery of my EV6 GT Line-S RWD in June. One question that is bothering me (well actually several) that I want to ask you. Have you managed to track down the list of voice commands for the EV6? There are several posts on KZbin, especially from EVOdessy filling in the blank sheet in the user manual for voice commands. I was wondering if you, with your Kia contacts have managed to track down the complete list. I currently own a Volvo V90 Inscription Pro, and the manual for that I would rate 9/10, but the EV6 manual .. hmmm!

[@moonsapling]

Why did you choose the RWD vs the AWD. I like the RWD because it has more range and the AWD spends 90% of its time in RWD. What is your point of view?

[@puppet-head]

Not sure this is a none tesla problem, more to do with bad chargers. Ive never had a charger fail with a credit card, but then again card payment are mandatory for all UK rapid chargers, something europe is yet to catch up on. No more crappy apps.

[@hv7978]

9:45 with the weird positioning of the charge port on the EV6, you end up blocking TWO stalls at Ionity. EV6 drivers will get a lot of complaints from other drivers. Thats for sure. . This 'fast' charging car goldgates like a mothertrucker. The XC40 charges faster in winter.

[@KapitanBombaKopa]

24:15 hi, my name is Bjørn and this is Jackass

[@Chris060889]

Great Video Björn as always. Off topic, how is the song called you used at 1:58 and 8:08 ? Can't find it by Shazam but I like it

[@jacoblerklint5770]

Dont stop by J.A.K

[@Chris060889]

@@jacoblerklint5770 thanks mate

[@commanderroddi7742]

Thought you were going to discount an additional 5 minutes for a charger you had to wait and another 20 minutes for an issue or something (forgot what, but if you go back and watch one of the first charges, Bjorn said he'd discount 20 or so minutes for something) oh, well. THis car is a nice road tripper. WHat I'd like to compare would be between the AWD & RWD GT-Line. Is it worth it to loose the 320 hp for the 225 on the RWD in order to get extra range?

[@XeLu62]

Could it be said that if you have a wound in your mouth, you can reduce the charging speed so that you can eat calmly? You are a genius, greetings from Asturias (north of Spain)

[@thormeyer6198]

The 76 kW or 76.000 watts or 76.000 joules/sec. is the rate of which work is done. kWh is the amount of work done in a period of time, thus after 1 hour or 60 min, the amount of work done with the power available, would be 76 kWh. So if you need to done the same amount of work but in half the time, you would need 76 kW * 2 = 152 kW. Of course this theory.. ☺️ 26,1 /100 = 0,261 kwh/km. And 0,261 * 256,6 km = 67,97 kWh.

[@jandskov4420]

Bjørn would u do the test again now when the batterry preheat update has gone live in Norway Sweden and Denmark. Jost so we can see how much it will help on the travelctime.

[@73av8r5]

I’ve been going back and forth between this and a model 3. Your charging issues have me thinking M3.

[@snabbis]

Nice video! Seems like a nice car

[@jeanmichaelmistrot9394]

Hey Biorn what is the app dongle you are using to measure battery?

[@johnlovenhill1]

I was going to ask about winter mode!

[@jessonabike]

Is it always hot weather in Korea? Is that why their cars cold gate so much?

[@sacharanc]

no more live streaming? ;-)

[@sacharanc]

I will be scared too!!

[@jamesmoline4411]

Bjork, try Omicillon paste by Bristol Myers for that mouth lesion. Works amazingly well. Dr. Moline

[@berthogendoorn2133]

I wonder if Kia will make that a OTA update on the improved charging software to existing customers.

[@IanMcc1000]

Kia doesn't do OTA, it's return to dealer for an update

[@frans1522]

@@IanMcc1000 OTA is enabled for multimedia since last software update. The question is: will the preconditioning also be included in the multimedia OTA? Time will tell.

[@IanMcc1000]

@@frans1522 My understanding is that there is a separate dealer only software update. Which update covers preconditioning I don't know but I understand a dealer update was needed to cover some remote (interior) preheating problems early users were having.

[@IanMcc1000]

It's a shame the whole car can't be updated OTA, but it's better it gets bricked at the dealer instead of on my drive =D

[@feedrate1]

Don't stop making videos. I loved it 🤘🤘🤘

[@runehaugstad3331]

Har du link/info om det programmet du bruker på telefonen som du får opp volt, watt, temp osv? :) Kan man også feilsøke bilen og slette feilmeldinger/service intervaller osv med den? Veldig bra test og gleder meg og hente lik bil(GT-line RWD) til helga på østlandet :)

[@youxkio]

No such problem as coldgating here in Kaohsiung, Taiwan.

[@MrJanipapillon]

I ordered Enyaq60 7 months ago. Currently, production of Enyaqs has stopped. The Kia EV6 and Ioniq5 are an alternative to me. Without preheating the battery? Discharging and regenerative charging on the descent is not OK for a very cold battery. On some winter days we have -20 stC. The first part is a lot of descent. 500 m altitude difference. Which cars of this rank have battery preheating? Battery heating on demand?

[@RonRattie]

Came for the range test and stayed for the close up of the mouth wounds lol

[@sveinarildstiansen6155]

Ok tesla bjorn get ready for the New Nio EC6. it's look's a bit like the Nio ES8

[@Gaijin101]

Best tesla advert

[@chrisness]

That navigation software looks terrible for finding fast chargers. You have to zoom in so much

[@sebir.584]

I hope you can one day make the 1000 km challenge with the aptera. You would not even have to charge.

[@luisPcordeiro]

I have been getting 240 KWh on IONITY in Portugal and Spain with my EV6. Different temperatures ... :)

[@bjornnyland]

No problem to get 240 kWh in a Leaf either :P

[@c.b.jr.1539]

What app are you using?

[@skejpa]

EV6 have the battery preconditioning. At least my MY23 has it. So maybe repeat the test ? :-)

[@gaminggrandpa5562]

Deducting time for having to wait for a free charger is not reflecting what we would see in the real world. These issues with broken chargers, apps not working should be included. I have just taken delivery of my Ioniq5 and am looking forward to seeing how the charging system is in the UK. You really need to show the total time, problems included, to be representative.

[@luisPcordeiro]

But then it would not help compare the cars. The issues with chargers are not specific to KIA, are related with external out of control factors that depend on the time of day, location, etc.

[@poundfoolish2007]

Hi Björn and hi to Björns Community. Maybe you can help us. We are discussing what the maximum tow weight of the 77 kwh RWD version is. We are getting strange and different information on that. We would be glad to solve our discussion here. Thanks and have a nice day. Cheers from southern Germany

[@Aier0]

I cant say for the EV6 - but i would recon it is the same as the IONIQ 5. The ioniq 5 rwd is allowed to tow 1600 kg.

[@poundfoolish2007]

@@Aier0 Thanks for the info, but we are looking for correct info on EV6. I assume it is same as ioniq 5, but we want to be sure.

[@nickbloodh]

@@poundfoolish2007 1.600kg with the large battery

[@poundfoolish2007]

@@nickbloodh Thanks, where did you find this information?

[@nickbloodh]

@@poundfoolish2007 My KIA dealer told me. 750kg for the small battery, 1.6t for all large batteries (AWD and RWD).

[@TheEdmaster87]

Is the preheating and how much km /soc you will have at destination been fixed now?

[@mariueg]

Get yourself Corsodyl at the pharmasy, one treatment at evening and it is almost gone the next morning (the mouth thing)

[@J0hn1o1o]

Love the kWh/h jokes ;)

[@PaulNelsonphotography]

Interesting.... My Ev6 GT has winter mode that preheats the battery

[@johangoransson7768]

Nope

[@eirik500]

Math: h/h= 1. kW x h= kWh. kWh/h= kW x h/h = kW x 1= kW.

[@davidbutt406]

Yes, it’s the new joke; replacing the tow ring/bolt in the storage area joke.

[@sylvainjamais904]

Good news preheating is coming. I wouldn't mind it o nthe e-niro too. What was the issue with ABRP?

[@Bultish]

Is there not yet frequent enough charging stations so one can stay within the 10-80% battery range? To minimize stationary time?

[@ndc5544p]

10-80% is just a figure. While driving, sometimes it's better to charge only to 50-60% because it's faster than to wait for 80%. And no, we need more chargers given the influx of new EVs.

[@Bultish]

@@ndc5544p yup, just happen to be good charging speed in that interval if you watch the charge test videos

[@etoile2003]

9:44 What kind of parking is that!? Come on :D

[@MyInfotainmentFix]

I feel like we should keep both adjusted time and total time (including wait time, charger problems, coldgate) because it is part of the experience of owning these cars. Ideal world doesn't exist.

[@Nicoleinacio]

Yes I also think that u should consider two times. One were you deduct the time other when o calculate the amount of real time... Because the reality people will get bad charging in road trips....

[@gxlbiscuit]

Bjorn i hope you see this but seriously do a test similar to this with regen OFF. It may sound counter intuitive but on the motorway the regen compounds to the drag that is already present. Of course when you use the brakes you will get regen. These cars coast forever.

[@bjornnyland]

Lol, watch this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gprbgX2npJVqpsU

[@gxlbiscuit]

@@bjornnyland Man I’m such aBjorn groupie!!! I have a niro EV and my daily drive efficiency has improved by a lot coasting. Also others with EV6s on kiaevforum are reporting better effciency. Maybe we drive like weirdos, but the numbers on our clusters are higher when using less regen. We are getting better mileage so now i wonder if it is how we drive. Thanks for your reply, love your videos and I’m glad you are getting better after covid.

[@jensp277]

Is it possible, that the havac is not up to date? I drive with my 58Wh accu 230km with an average of 115km/h. Can you say the date of the firmware? Thanks.

[@bertrandgouverneur5638]

Hello, What application do you use to get the infos from OBD (I mean the one shown on your smartphone in your video) ?

[@EV_OBD]

Car Scanner Elm Obd2

[@MrBassaman]

:-D :-D the saltlakens was the funniest I've seen yet... 🙂But would you go for the EV6 or the EV6 GT-Line?

[@magnusstenhaug5817]

How much did this trip cost in supercharging

[@johanrooth4397]

Will it bee a softwere update to fix the coldgating? On the mod 2022 ev6.

[@sun1han5z]

I can't deal with this shit of not having an universal way to pay for the charging

[@peterrandall3369]

Why do we not get that colour in the uk

[@briise]

Maybe turn off wintermode, see if the are any differense ?

[@robev809]

If you turn off winter mode then the car talks to the world weather creator and the temperatures rise outside. If a lot of people do it then it will be summer :)

[@christiandressen3651]

Hi, which app are you using on your mobile to show the stats? i could only see scanmytesla in the links, but the app looks different

[@bjornnyland]

Car Scanner

[@christiandressen3651]

@@bjornnyland Thanks, was just looking different on my mobile, so perhaps its a configuration thing in car scanner

[@MalengWan]

Looks like it's hard to manage ... Is there a pillbox in the car for aspirin ? 😏

[@martyb4497]

Bonjella for the lip you'll be right has rain

[@MS-fo8vr]

Time to have two columns on the chart? Corrected time for busy charging stations and actual time taken? At least people can make up their own mind then and also allows tracking of charging hold ups over time.

[@wanderstudi]

kWh/h is the same as kW (h/h =1) edit: ok, it is the bmw running joke, right? :D

[@safetyguy14]

yes, Bjorn just pointing out how stupid kWh/h and Wh/100km are

[@micha8765]

watching not every video I was very confused about this "joke"

[@iskad74]

How much did this 1000 km cost?

[@patriklindgren8063]

Not one chargesession over 200kw? Al charger was 250kw chargers?