Kia Niro EV4 and E Niro 4+ comparison

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✅Thanks for watching, so what would you do? swap or stick? 🤔
Personally, the extra £20k to change to a NEW Niro EV4 for just the HUD , V2L , Summon ( via the key) is too much!
I also like the fact that the e niro does look 'bland', but is so brilliantly efficient.
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[@ivanbenstead8586]

I have the digestive 4+, best car I’ve ever had.

[@JonathanPorterfield]

Me too , not just my best EV , best car I've ever owned, period !

[@briangriffiths114]

Although both are far too big for me, I prefer the older car as I am an enthusiastic consumer of digestive biscuits.

[@JonathanPorterfield]

And our waistlines back this up 🤫🤪

[@palusisko]

The most good news is the Niro II has still battery from SK Innovation(better technology, low fire risk), Good Job Kia! :-)

[@richardhaywoodh]

Great side by side comparison. Personally I think colour makes a big difference on the original e-Niro, for me especially the Yacht Blue make the car look great and not bland or plain. The new models solid rear quarter panels compared to the windows on the earlier model limit the drivers view there. The new cars display in front of the driver looks nice but all in all there is nothing on the new car that would induce me to change my existing e-Niro 4+

[@stevensevume2311]

We need to invest in better sound for our beloved channel

[@JonathanPorterfield]

Ive since bought a sony vloging camera , sound is much better

[@colingoode3702]

Both are good but a bit too big for what we need as our 1st EV. Currently we are looking at a used 1-2 year old top spec facelift Kona Ultimate as a second car for my wife. It will only ever be charged from home & used for local trips & the odd longer trip within the range of the 64kWh battery. Personally I'm Hobnob man.

[@JonathanPorterfield]

Love a hobnob too ! Kona a fine ev , just a bit to small inside for me.

[@richardhaywoodh]

We have e-Niro & Kona Facelift, yes the Kona is a little smaller, especially in the cabin & boot area, but you can make the boot almost as big as the e-Niros using a custom flat boot floor

[@mikethecabbie8476]

My budget takes me to a 2021 e-niro 4+; doubt I could stretch to the new one. I got no need for towing, V2L would be useful for maybe once or twice a year, I've had manual boot lids for over 40yrs so I won't miss a self-closing one. The older model is perfectly adequate for my needs, so thanks to your video I'm not about to go lusting after the revised model...

[@JonathanPorterfield]

Smart thinking Mike , go for the 4+ , 11kW ac on board charging , 2 postion memory drivers seat , cooled front seats, and sunroof , the app is great too on all trim levels, 3 and 4, except the e niro 2 .

[@mikethecabbie8476]

@@JonathanPorterfield Most definitely. I'm not getting any younger, and I'm hoping this car will be the last I ever buy. My S-Max is shot and won't survive its MoT in January. Most of my driving is done round Dorset, with the occasional longer hauls to visit family in Home Counties, so the lane keeping, adaptive cruise, autonomous braking, blind spot warning of the 4+ is what I REALLY need to keep myself driving safely beyond the sensors God put in between my ears... As long as I can figure out the best way of using the regen braking, I should be in a happy place come 2025.

[@JonathanPorterfield]

@mikethecabbie8476 the regen braking is great on the e niro , especially the AUTO setting 👌, sounds like a future video topic for me then 😀?

[@stevemulroy1417]

I have the new one, i absolutely love it…

[@JonathanPorterfield]

The EV4 or the old shape 4+ ?

[@dphillips9641]

I prefer the looks of the new version but hate all of the piano black used on the interior.

[@JonathanPorterfield]

Yes , I agree , far too much piano black !

[@alanjenkinson7812]

I’ve had both & am now back in a 4+ because the 4 let me down multiple times with zombie mode. Kia were totally useless, the dealer couldn’t care less and Lex, my lease co, wouldn’t take responsibility, so I gave it back and am now a lot of money out of pocket because there were no other suitable cars in sock

[@chrisrowe22]

That’s the second time this year you’ve taken your jumper off! Climate change is real!

[@Timstravels01]

Either of those would do me fine. I prefer McVities digestives however. 🤣 Great vid mate.

[@JonathanPorterfield]

Thanks bud 👍

[@andyjdhurley]

The towing is make or break for me. I might be driving one now if the original had it (officially) but I could not get it then and ended up getting a used ICE to tide me over a few years. Maybe in a couple of years.

[@macduff1964a]

As you know JP, we have the slightly earlier 4 and I’ll stick with the torque….if only it came with a tow hitch….all them lb-ft would come in handy. Also after 2 yrs & 30k plus, she’s still a winner.

[@stevensanger]

It's nice to see EV’s are becoming more affordable for us poor folk

[@JonathanPorterfield]

Like any 'new' technologies, prices will be ( and are) falling over time. Think mobile phones in the 80's , flat screen TVs etc etc

[@AndrewEbling]

New one has a slightly bigger boot. I'd take the extra practicality, personally.

[@FancyaBevMate]

One great feature missing from the older vehicle is something I really miss from the leaf, the i pedal. My next bev might be the Mercedes EQB for taxi work. I’ve got quite a few issues at the moment (going in for warranty work in july) my steering is able to make slight bends without the self steering enabled maybe caused by an annoying centre dead spot (I’ve had new tyres and tracking) the electric motor has an awful whine when on trailing throttle and the clicking gear box mounts noise has returned along with the standard kia creaking suspension/mounts. I’ll report back when issues done. Personally I think the huge torque through the steering has caused one of my issuers hence the new vehicle has reduced amounts. Cheers

[@JonathanPorterfield]

The niro ev DOES have a 'i pedal' regen setting , i missed this out ! Hope you get the issues sorted ! Is yours the 1st edition e niro ?

[@FancyaBevMate]

@@JonathanPorterfield yes mate it is

[@NancyPickering]

I'm with you, Jonathan. I love my e-Niro and the fact that the Niro EV is bigger is not a plus for me. The Niro now must be at the lower end of similar cars in terms of maximum charge speed, so it's a shame Kia haven't addressed that.

[@elliottkeen9933]

Both fabulous cars enjoy your t

[@rupertwilson5928]

Nice comparison of the old vs new. I'm really pleased with my new NiroEV 4. The addition of auto lane change on motorway when using the adaptive cruise control is very nice, it also adjusts the maximum speed where variable speed limits are in force. Maybe use the new 4 on your next trip darn sarf and see what you think 🤔 Only downside vs my previous 28kWh Ioniq is the efficiency of the NiroEV can't match the #Windknife. But then the NiroEV will do 280 miles vs 150 in the Ioniq

[@JonathanPorterfield]

Nice 👍 I would like to take the new Niro EV 4 on a long test , but our customer wouldn't be best pleased if i put more than the 20 miles showing on the dash ! Good to hear of the new features you've found usefull , is it £20k more useful over a used 21 plate 4+ ?

[@davids9552]

Can't see any EV4+'s on your website? Would snap up a 2021 EV4+ for £21-22k!

[@JonathanPorterfield]

We offer 'buy to order' to keep costs low , please contact us on 01856 480008 or e mail [e-mail] for details of our service.

[@mellorij]

What about the Heat Pump? This is included on the old Niro, I believe it is an option on the new one?

[@JonathanPorterfield]

Correct , see my video on this subject ! kzbin.info/www/bejne/nJqrnWxmrpJkh8k&feature=share7

[@neilgillespie3223]

Thank you Jonathan another really useful video

[@JonathanPorterfield]

Thanks Neil 👍

[@jonathancullen1337]

Digestive. Maybe chocolate digestive in 2 years time once depreciation kicks in...

[@chrisp7839]

Where did the sunglasses holder go ?

[@JonathanPorterfield]

Dunno ! and the sliding cover over the cupholders has gone !

[@andrewrigamonti4144]

The new car doesn't take a roof rack. Fake roof bars. That's awful news if you surf.

[@fire_stick]

Err bit of a mic failure?

[@JonathanPorterfield]

Yes , i struggled with the sound , time for some shopping i think 🤔

[@richardh6756]

Love your channel.😊 I have just charged my new kia Niro 2 for the first time on a public charger 174 khw shellrecharge. when it started I got 46khw to 80%, then 27khw at 90% then 17khw at 100% full charge.does this seem right.did not warm battery.

[@JonathanPorterfield]

Thanks for watching Richard , I appreciate it 👍 . A number of factors affect charge rates , local supply to the rapid at that time period you where plugged in , air temp, temp of battery when plugging in, SOC when starting the rapid. All of the above will dictate the DC charge rate on all EVs

[@OraEtLabora0]

still 🥔cam without HD

[@solangenrk]

Why do u write Niro EV4 Niro and EV4 are 2 diffrent cars and the later one are not released yet. EV 4 gonna have 800v system.

[@JonathanPorterfield]

The old Niro was called ' e niro ' The new shape Niro is called 'niro ev' and the trim level on this was a 4 !

[@OraEtLabora0]

2:18 not testing 🎤 while "on the set"?

[@jeffreycooper8408]

Unfortunately I've lost so much money on my 4 eniro, I'll never be able to afford either of those 😪

[@JonathanPorterfield]

How come you're 'lost' money on the e niro ?

[@jeffreycooper8408]

@@JonathanPorterfield I bought at the wrong time - I paid £29K a year and a half ago (which actually was cheap at the time) and I'm only getting P/Ex valuations of £16K (if I'm lucky) - also, the PCP interest rates are now far worse, just to add insult to injury. Could sell privately to lessen the hit, but still not great, and scary !!

[@AdamPurcell]

Pedantry alert - chocolate digestives have the chocolate on the bottom not the top! Nevertheless I'd probably go for the top spec. Got to love those gadgets.

[@JonathanPorterfield]

Good shout re where the chocolate is 👍👏👏🤣

[@Timstravels01]

That’s top pedantry. I love it!

[@MarkAtkin]

If that is true then I eat mine upside down.

[@Anonymous-ib8so]

EV are NOT Eco cars! They are far more environmentally damaging than a modern diesel. Due to manufacture they use 100 to 300 barrels of oil in their production on average. The rare earths used in the battery are mined in new mines often by child slave labour. To make one 450 kg battery more than 300,000 tonnes of earth are mined to produce it. They are a far higher fire risk than a petrol or diesel car and fire services have to send twice the number of appliances to try to extinguish it. The crews using around 30,000 liters of water to control it whereas a ICE fire need around 3,000 litres so these EV fire will use more of the water we need to live

[@JonathanPorterfield]

What a load of rubbish ! You sir need to stop reading the Daily Mail and do proper research ! kzbin.info/www/bejne/nYnHfXRsaN-NfKc&feature=share7

[@richardlphillips]

No rare earths in batteries. ICE cars typically catch fire 20x more than Electric cars. Thes rest of your claims are also complete bobbins.