KIA XCeed PHEV review | The 201mpg fuel economy is staggering!

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Earlier in 2019, I reviewed the KIA XCeed 1.0 petrol (link here • Kia XCeed review | The... ) and it was a decent hatch but a little underpowered. This PHEV version has a bit more power but how does the car handle the extra weight of batteries? What sort of fuel economy does this car do? Find out the answers to that and heaps more in this review!
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[@craigchapman6613]

Great car, had mine for 3 months now. Fact check though please Nobby - This car does have the usual regenerative breaking re-charge system that I had in my Kia Niro 2 Hybrid for 3 years, in addition to the PHEV. The PHEV battery is 10 times the capacity of the normal hybrid and without charging the car via a cable, it keeps itself charged between 8-18% quite efficiently in Hybrid mode, based on driving style, it just doesn't have the new flappy paddles on the steering wheel. A lot of people don't realise that the Kia hybrids are computer controlled to mix electric and petrol input and that the mix is rarely below 40% electric and it happily slips into 80% - 100% electric around town, reacting to the driving style. Regularly driving over 100 miles a day for work, I tend to use Hybrid mode on motorways and switch into Auto (Auto is another Hybrid mode that favours mostly electric drive) in built up areas. Regarding the "lard arse" comment, yes it has downward weight and slows much quicker when coasting than my Niro 2 ever did, but its not flabby to drive. I haven't noted any oversteer nor body roll due to weight, it handles A roads nicely and hugs the surface well. The suspension compensates well. Another great thing about Kia cars is that you can drive a long way and get out feeling as fresh as when you started, the pedal angle, seat and door angles correspond very well (note - Vauxhall, Ford, Audi, BMW, Volvo, Peugeot, Renault, Citroen, Toyota, Lexus etc all fail to achieve this, in their lower to mid-range cars). This seems like a basic logic, but having all manner of back & hip problems, I agonisingly (literally) check out a lot of cars before settling on a new company car. The VW T-Roc is the only none Kia I could enjoy driving, but there is no hybrid option so far, and the company car tax is much higher. The ComCar rating for the Xceed PHEV has made a massive difference to my tax rate, even compared to the Niro 2 Hybrid. One thing none of these 1 week exposure reviews of hybrids never mention, is that electric car batteries are so much more efficient in warmer months. Below 10'C in hybrid mode, the Kia cars with 16" wheels can achieve little more than 55mpg up to 70mph. Over 16'C, you can easily add 12-15mpg hybrid mode, possibly a bit due to less use of lights, heating etc, but mainly due to battery performing much more efficiently when its not in a damp fridge. I look forwards to seeing what my Xceed PHEV can achieve in a couple of months (its Feb now). Widen and enlarge your wheels and say goodbye to efficiency, road friction is a major killer of all the clever electrical assistance the Hybrid and PHEV technologies can offer. Lastly, the Slovakian manufactured Kia cars have better paint jobs than the Korean made cars.

[@NobbyOnCars]

Yes, afterwards I was made aware of the auto regen in the car.

[@Id3fornow...]

Does you'r xceed have the 18" alloys? How do they affect efficiency? I am concidering one

[@craigchapman6613]

@@Id3fornow... - Hi Paul, the Xceed PHEV has 16" alloys as standard. The larger and wider the wheel/tyre, the higher the road friction (and noise) which makes a massive difference on fuel economy, and in turn, the emission levels. You can see the difference on the screen monitors when driving on different types of road surface. I tried the Sport mode last week and all the "Lard Arse" feel that Nobby refers to disappears, so I would assume the regenerative aspect is vastly less in this mode. My employer has not installed a charger at home for my (their) car, so I have to rely on public chargers and have found there are 3 main types of charge lead already, with quite a few access points not offering all 3 - this will cause chaos as chargeable car numbers increase and many houses can not have home driveway access for their charging. To calculate the percentages of electric assistance to the petrol engine, consider a similar sized petrol car economy. A petrol Mokka or Focus will mange around 35mpg when driven carefully, consider that alongside the average 60-72mpg from April-November in a Kia driving on HEV, or 80+mpg driving on AUTO.

[@Id3fornow...]

@@craigchapman6613 in Ireland i think the only option is 18"

[@craigchapman6613]

@@Id3fornow... - maybe, I'm in England so I can't comment on that.

[@willsmyth639]

Brilliant review again and very well explained with the battery and mileages gains 👏🏻

[@NobbyOnCars]

Thanks Will!

[@J.D.1.]

You can make the speedometer show digitally also. Use the menu function and scroll through. It appears.

[@andreoproprio]

Having lived in the 80s-90s, it drives me insane to hear 11seconds from 0-100km/h is slow, and it's even more insane when the major drawback of an EV is autonomy, why people even dare complain about acceleration. 15s-18s was perfectly normal 20years ago, 10s was sports car stuff, 5s is F1 stuff. Other than that, great review!

[@NobbyOnCars]

11 seconds is slow. A Volvo electric family car can do it in 3 days. The word is context!

[@markgriffinphoto]

Father in Law just got one, smooth plenty of room in front cabin, think he's going to love it with the low milage he does. thanks

[@NobbyOnCars]

Yes it will cost very little to run!

[@brec5879]

Great review. I did see on someone else’s review that the xceed does have regenerative braking n I think I saw it also has blind spot thingy on mirrors. Maybe that’s 2022 model?

[@superiorniall]

Baile Átha Kia is just genius

[@garyclarke3174]

I’m sold on this car so far, esp with fuel economy, I’m trying to see if it comes with CarPlay on that model you reviewed? Thanks, great reviews! Giving Mr Flavin a run for his money

[@NobbyOnCars]

It does! Thanks for checking out the vids

[@user-ku1tq3uk1o]

Good review mate. Does the battery charge while using the petrol engine or is it just by charging it at home or petrol station?

[@freedom2036]

I’d rather pay the extra and get the e niro but this looks like a nice car. Very good review 👍

[@NobbyOnCars]

Yep, totally worth it.

[@bbbbbbbbbbbefw1606]

I’ve got a 2015 Sonata and the engine blew up at 42,000 miles despite changing the oil every 3,000 to 5,000 miles.

[@irelandshistoricalspots]

Great review...interesting that there is no regen at all? Defo agree that charging options are need for the backseat passengers!

[@NobbyOnCars]

I'm reliably told it has some level of auto regeneration working away in the background!

[@irelandshistoricalspots]

@@NobbyOnCars ok great. Its a nice looking car in fairness. Do any if the PHEVs have a fast charging option do you know?

[@NobbyOnCars]

Not usually no. The battery in them is typically too small to sustain it. You can pay extra or it can be standard in some PHEVs for them to be able to take 7 ish kW but it's rare enough in my experience of different ones.

[@BennyMosesN]

Does the Kia Xceed PHEV (2020) Automatic has the Idle Stop and Go functionality?

[@kazimierznorejko5853]

👍

[@daveomeara2419]

You’re doing a really great job on these videos. I’m kinda stuck at the moment and looking for advice….I currently have a focus active estate 1.5TDCI and am looking to upgrade. Should I go for the focus ST-Line 1.0 125 estate OR the Kia ceed SW 1.6 PHEV ? I don’t know what to do…..

[@NobbyOnCars]

The Focus is the better car to drive but the PHEV will be cheaper to fuel, which is your priority I guess. I think the ST pack really looks great too.

[@daveomeara2419]

@@NobbyOnCars any idea what the focus would be like on petrol ?

[@NobbyOnCars]

@@daveomeara2419 kzbin.info/www/bejne/lZLdqoaFZtGsgKM

[@eoincasey5461]

I’m interested in the plug in hybrid Estate version of this. Any chance of a review of that or would the two cars be basically the same?

[@NobbyOnCars]

Not sure it’s on their fleet but I wounding see the range etc differ to any great extent

[@aakeister]

Can you pre heat the car?

[@MrWhelts]

The Xceed 𝓭𝓸𝓮𝓼 have regenerative braking. This video confused me but my local dealer showed me.

[@NobbyOnCars]

It’s automatic. You’ve no control over it.

[@TheBeautyOfTheWorldWithDrone]

Is that model has navigation?

[@gramar7514]

Hi. Whats the difference between a ‘first edition’ and the 2022 Xeeds, in particular the economy. Also can you drive a ‘first edition’ on EV on the motorway say 60 mph, my wife does about 18 miles on the motorway each day plus s but of urban

[@nothought108]

Does it charge the battery whilst running on petrol?

[@NobbyOnCars]

Can if you like yes

[@panpuhacz9949]

I owned this car a week and it's very bad at short trip to work in winter time... It's -2°C and I have 4 km to my work the car should go in EV mode but somehow the Bensin engine take a lot of fuel (like 30liters on bar computer show) when I drive 1-20km/h. It's also happened after 10km trip in a traffic. Maybe my car it's buggy or every kia Xceed phev it's like this, I don't know and let me know about it in comments below please. For now I am very disappointed of this car. For 4km trip with AC/air flow on car fuel consumption it's 9L/100km and it's take electricity as well in same time!!!! Because it have no heat pump! The problem it's gone when I put AC/air flow in cabin to completely OFF.... Can someone explain me that phenomena????????

[@NedNew]

Ja, sehr gut. Ich mag diese Auto aber der Batterie ist ziemlich schwer (300 kg).

[@NobbyOnCars]

Es ist manchmal einer der Nachteile von Elektrizität.

[@fritz8619]

Stimmt! 300 kg Batterie für nur max 50km rein elektrische Reichweite ist zu viel. Wie so dass die Batterie so schwer ist und so wenig Leistung hat? Bist du sicher dass die so schwer ist? Wie immer super Test! Weiter so! 👍

[@NobbyOnCars]

Es gibt verschiedene Modelle des Autos, also habe ich versucht, alles mit bis zu 300 kg abzudecken, aber im Allgemeinen würde das in und um dieses Gewicht liegen - die Peugeot PHEVs sind ähnlich. Manchmal sind sie so tief im Auto, dass es offensichtlich hilft, aber in diesem Fall fällt es im Vergleich zum Nur-Benzin-Modell auf.

[@miszatomkowicz2853]

What is that color ?

[@NobbyOnCars]

Dark penta metal

[@bordersw1239]

6K more than a Corolla hybrid - pays for a lot of fuel.

[@twicfall]

AFAIK the Corolla is not a plug-in but a HEV. Huge difference.

[@TheBeautyOfTheWorldWithDrone]

Show me Corolla cheaper by 6k then this model.

[@dnatuner1984]

Corolla Hybrid isn't a plug in hybrid, and the Corolla will cost more to fuel

[@AlbertoGianmariaScotti]

Regenerative braking is not present in this car? Really? Weird!

[@NobbyOnCars]

Alberto Gianmaria Scotti it’s automatic so it’s there but there’s no level input, no selector for B etc

[@AlbertoGianmariaScotti]

@@NobbyOnCars Understood. Thanks for the clarification :-)

[@mmrko1]

yeah it's automatic, not too strong. And when you press brakes gently it regenerates more and only on strong braking it uses the brake pads.

[@NobbyOnCars]

@@mmrko1 clever car!

[@jetpigeon8758]

Regenerative braking IS present on this vehicle.

[@Bond2025]

MPG is the measure of how far the car will travel using 1 gallon of fuel by using it to continuously power the engine *excluding when the ECU reduces fuel injection during continous driving* until that 1 gallon is used up and the car engine stops. No car will travel 201miles using 1 gallon of fuel in this way. One car in the 80s did 100MPG and 100MPH, the famous Daihatsu Charade. The bit about trying to get commission from selling chargers is a very misleading thing you have tried by stating charging is somehow "dangerous" using the lead and plug provided by KIA. I am sure they will dispute your false claims over their products being faulty and being a risk to customers.

[@NobbyOnCars]

I don’t sell chargers, you don’t have a real photo. Now go back under your rock because using a plug to charge a car isn’t the safest way to charge them. Touch the socket and charger next time and feel the heat from it.

[@eliasbartos]

Hi, I have a KIA CEED PHEV 2022. I'm very disappointed how the hybrid system works. If it low temperature outside (below 10 C) then the petrol engine always starts if the so if im driving under 10km it never runs purly on electricity. Or if the AC is runing the petrol engien starts. So the petrol enginen is always running when heating or cooling... My advise, dont buy a KIA

[@ryszardgorazda1580]

Also disappointing is that there is only one trim with OLD 8" 2gen infotainment system without any connectivity. C'mon, its 2022 and simpler cars have more connectivity. charging status only by looking into cars dashboard? this could be sorted out by push notification. Unless Kia Ireland is pushing cheap trim for premium price :/

[@panpuhacz9949]

I know your pain... Unfortunately I bought the car last week and went very surprised when it showed me 9L/100km fuel consumption on a short trip in city to my work.... It's 2024 year and I need to turn off my damn AC to get properly fuel consumption on my half electric vehicle car in 3km trip!!!! That's awful. Do you have some advice how to avoid/help this problem????

[@blairpoll287]

Risk of fire from using a 3pin lol this guy has no idea.

[@NobbyOnCars]

Cars are not meant to be charged using domestic sockets. You know better though, of course.....

[@NobbyOnCars]

Some more light reading for your superior knowledge www.electricireland.ie/news/article/5-frequently-asked-questions-about-charging-your-electric-car-at-home#:~:text=There%20are%20a%20few%20options,in%20to%20a%20standard%20socket.&text=It's%20also%20important%20to%20point,power%20for%20a%20long%20time.

[@blairpoll287]

@@NobbyOnCars if your sockets are in such bad shape any high load would maybe cause an issue it's not the cars fault!

[@NobbyOnCars]

@@blairpoll287 and I'm providing information about charging to masses - I don't go into their houses and check so the advice stands. Even in a new socket with perfect wiring, with the load and duration needed to charge a car, an outdoor socket or a proper charger is still a better fit for the purpose. If you don't agree, that's your choice but please don't come onto my channel and tell me I haven't a clue simply because you disagree. I've carried out extensive research on charging and have sought advice from several qualified electricians.

[@blairpoll287]

@@NobbyOnCars you are still implying in your video that charging an electric car on a 3pin is a fire risk which to many people would put them off an EV. It is not the cars fault!