Kidde/Edwards ECG Genesis LED Fire Alarm Series Overview & Test

[@nics-systems-electric]

Nice review. The reduced current draw is not a saving money concern when it comes to the draw on the electrical service. It it would be very minimum as the voltage is already being stepped down to 24DC. You would likely see less than you would have on a large outdoor light fixture. Where the lower current draw is saving is reduced battery demands, less voltage drop from higher current, therefore smaller conductors which means smaller pipe as your pipe fill will be a lesser and in large cases less NAC booster panels will be needed. That is where you see significant cost savings. if you were to do some calculations a building with say 100 devices at the average milliamp draw of 50 MA xenon horn strobes. That gives you 5 A at 24 V now you can roughly calculate that gives you a step down of five times which also takes your current down to 1 amp on the primary side. That equals 120 W that gives a average cost of $.23 per hour that is $5.52 per day for 100 devices that is in CAD so you would see a lesser amount converted to USD.

[@joeycaridi3030]

Thank you saying that, I always want to know better about NAC current draw and LED fire alarms

[@briantrettin6775]

Love watching your videos. I have a KZbin channel to and it’s a about pole station fire alarms my channel is called safety and medical . Go check it out.

[@lguthrie8607]

That is exactly right and on point. These devices, just like the newer generation of exceeders and such, pay themselves off in installation costs, and continue to do so by requiring less apparatus. Not only that, but it also means much more by reducing the amount of NACs themselves which is extremely useful if you have an open NAC line for whatever reason and need to investigate. I like these LED devices more than the xenons for that reason, and we switched entirely to EST devices last year for installations because of how good EST has become.

[@tronicsterspeaker9946]

nic does that mean that you can have moredevices on a nac if the draw less current?

[@TokkiLiin-p1z]

:D

[@CGray1234]

That speaker mesh design is awesome. Even though I'm not a fan of EST, I do like those alarms.

[@firealarmsofnorthwesternmi799]

Cool alarm! My school has these alarms in the newer parts of the campus, though I assume voice evac since that’s what the rest of the system is

[@themexicanmerc]

I've seen the same white led strobe in the middle but they're speaker strobes and they have the alert lettering in some rooms on a building in my college

[@HJCF0520]

Very nice and thorough review! I just got a GCAVWF installed outside my office when I complained to building facilities there wasn’t a fire alarm in our hallway. I like the look of it!

[@Syncere-ig3mu]

Wow you are smart and anything

[@LiamFire17B-R-qz2xr]

8:23 I love how you add these type of meme sound effects. After “packs of ten” then the HUH? meme makes me laugh! 😂

[@joeycaridi3030]

Many things I want to point out of this device and other stuff 01:58 Other LED fire alarms do have an updated strobe coverage range even if it has one LED light like the System Sensor LED L-series which does say that all LED fire alarms have better strobe coverage than Xenon strobes due to the modified strobe reflector and magnifier designs 02:52 What makes it more effective during a new install or expansion is that it reduced the amount of NAC power supplies saving you money on NAC power supplies in order to have the NAC functional as it should because a NAC power supply branches the NAC from the panel into new NACS and repeats the circuit to prevent any voltage drops when all the current is being consumed by the alarms more than the system can generate that can be repeated to create even more branches of NACS 04:43 It's kinda useless for Edwards to make horn only ceiling mount devices as that's just a waste of manufacturing materials as the EST G4ARF or G4AWF (double gang sized wall mount remote horn) should be manufactured instead because they use no strobes and would work with other wall mount horn only models on ceilings and vice versa because the sound will output in the same direction 05:46 On Xenon EST Genesis devices you had to cut a jumper to set the horn to continuous or lower the volume by 5 dB unless if it's an EST Integrity which can be done many times using jumpers that you can move around but both of these are really hard to do 06:56 It does have another volume level but in reverbarant areas (low volume is 80 dB and high volume is 85 dB) where's in anechoic areas it's 86 dB on low and 92 dB on high which is counterintuitive because sounds in reverbarant areas tend to be louder in anehoic areas but it's not because it's a high frequency sound and has shorter wavelengths which can easily create a simulated volume drop due to the reflected sound wave created from hitting a wall (because high sound frequencies reflect off of wall more easily than low sound frequencies) creating a different phase of the sound wave that interferes with the main sound wave causing a simulated volume drop because the reflected sound wave is slightly out of phase and also the sound this alarm makes by the way is an amplitude sweep sound with a carrier frequency of 3.2 Khz with a modulation rate of 50 Hz (40 Hz for Xenon models) down to 0% Amplitude, however with some other fire alarms that shows it in the data sheet and install manual that's a newer alarm made by the same company like the System Sensor L-Series, the manual and data sheet shows that it has only one volume level for all spaces which 90 dB for high volume and 84 dB for low volume (6 dB range) which means that they've improved the sound from the SpectrAlert Advance as it does show volume levels for reverbarant and anehoic spaces and they've must've done it by having the peak amplitudes be a high pressure wave to have anti-reverbarant distortion, the peak frequency of the L-Series is 100 Hz lower than the Advance is the L-Series is around 3,050 Hz as it does have the same frequency sweep range and modulation rate and carrier frequency however the overtones and undertones are slightly improved to make it more buzzing and there's no slight static sound with slight volume variation of the peak volume which all done to remove the reverbarant distortion from the L-Series that makes sound lower in volume in a reverbarant area and if you want to know the audio synthesis of these alarms watch this video here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hna3aaapebeUhKs 07:39 Plese be prepared for the loud jumpscare as you should turn your volume down 5 seconds before this part 08:08 All LED fire alarms should work on FWR power like the LED L-series as it shouldn't fry the device as I heard many criticism about that the LED L-series won't work on FWR because it's not listed in the manual or data sheet but it will work because of many UL electrical tests for it to work on FWR just like with other System Sensor fire alarms but I think why probably the FWR listings are not there is because on FWR it will consume the same current as Filtered DC 08:25 The reason why the LED EST Genesis devices don't come with a mounting bracket for wiring is that they're sold separately in order to make money due to their business model which is just like Apple as they sold their products separately in order to make money because they're greedy which is another reason to not like EST 10:13 Testing the alarm on code-3 please turn your volume down again 5 seconds before this part 10:23 And yet again but on continuous 10:30 And yes there was a sound difference between the LED EST Genesis horn strobe and the Xenon EST Genesis horn strobe as they both use the same exact carrier frequency that's 3.2 Khz and does an amplitude sweep down to 0% however the modulation rate of LED device is 50 Hz and the Xenon device is 40 Hz and also that the sound level in an anehoic room for Xenon models are 92 dB on low volume and 97 dB on high volume and for LED models are 92 dB on high volume and 86 dB on low volume which is likely done to improve power consumption or to also make sure that multiple devices placed 10 feet of each other on high volume only reach 100 dB where's the Xenon ones reach 110 dB which is good as they're still loud to get your attention and make you leave the building but not 110 dB where the sound level is so loud that it can hurt your ears very quickly while this level of 100 dB will hurt your ears but not very quickly than 110 dB as it appears that there must've been a new code established that the alarms should not exceed 100 dB because any level higher than that is very dangerous for your hearing which is why many fire alarms from 2007-2017 have like the Xenon EST Genesis or the System Sensor SpectrAlert Advance have been criticized for being too loud at 100 dB and too many of them per 10 feet makes it's 110 dB as that's ridiculously loud but thankfully it's now improved and fixed where many fire alarms on high volume only reach 90 dB and only cap to 100 dB when they're spaced apart per 10 feet and it should be unless if it's an outdoor model as the high volume setting should be 100 dB so it's heard at an extremely long distance Sources: 1. 01:58 Data sheets and install manuals and common knowledge about strobe coverage ranges 2. 02:52 Data sheets and install manuals and common knowledge about fire alarm panels output in amps and the alarm's current draw 3. 04:43 Common knowledge about horn only models 4. 05:46 KZbin videos and manuals about other EST products 5. 06:56 Data sheets and manuals about the sound levels, common knowledge about sound waves and my audio synthesis videos of these sounds from the function generator Xenon EST Genesis Xenon horn sound: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bHuvkJaAapubb7c LED EST Genesis horn sound: kzbin.info/www/bejne/b5KpY6J6g9eoq6s System Sensor SpectrAlert Advance and L-Series horn sound: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hna3aaapebeUhKs 6. 08:08 Data sheets and manuals about the DC and FWR capabilities 7. 08:25 Wheelove Fire Alarm's video about the EST G4 pinned comment: kzbin.info/www/bejne/j3rTcnydf99krtk 8. 10:30 Common knowledge and sound volume levels of different fire alarms from manuals and data sheets

[@Earth_Number_12]

You should get the system sensor led fire alarm

[@keithpierce8458]

Cool video and I like those est kiddie genesis fire alarms

[@jzzhang726]

Cool video!

[@Northern_Fire_Security]

Great video

[@treystewart544]

The strobe lights and the horn sounds awesome when you’re testing the fire alarm 🚨 😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎

[@HunterLaflamme-d3y]

Wow!

[@That_2_guy2T]

Cool!

[@centurionempire4180]

Those caught my eyes when I 1st noticed them some time ago, I wonder if they have any alarms similar for this that are placed on walls instead of ceilings.

[@homerjay424]

Please Do Another System Test With The Ms9200udls And The Wheelock Spmns Voice Evacuation Panel I Miss It

[@ACAAllertor125]

Dang. I sure wish I watched this Video before Buying an LES Genesis Speaker Strobe.

[@coned-man]

Your voice is so asmr worthy

[@officialnewyorkfirealarmtech]

The company that I work for started using these in late 2022 when they switched from using Fire Lite to Kidde systems.

[@Neptunesalad12]

Awesome video make more

[@Quandaledingle23102]

So well meanwhile with my dad at carmax the fire alarm went off at a random building for the ENTIRE time

[@lilsteppa7471]

WHY THE ENTIRE TIME 😭

[@Quandaledingle23102]

Idk like someone pulled it or a alarm

[@Noodlethetherianhere]

@@Quandaledingle23102idk probably

[@lilsteppa7471]

5:39 why is the rock Johnson here?😂

[@NewEnglandAviaton987]

i mounted an SCWH- Spectralert advanced strobe on the wall

[@CAT40troupevr]

You mean p2cw

[@NewEnglandAviaton987]

No it’s not the L SERIES

[@NewEnglandAviaton987]

It’s the old version

[@CAT40troupevr]

@@NewEnglandAviaton987 the l series has a model like this p2rl

[@jayc.landgraf6828]

The advances are dual-listed for both wall and ceiling (all models), so it technically doesn't matter except for aesthetics.

[@jzzhang726]

Where has he been?😅

[@SodiumInduction-hv]

cool

[@FonixVR_]

I know it's probably not the content you normally do, but if I was to want to have a system simular, though for personal home use, is it possible? Have you tried the X-Sense wireless interconnected smoke alarms, and if not, could you? I want to maybe get them for my house, but if they're trash. I want to hear it from an unbiased opinion that isn't being paid.

[@OklahomaStateSirens]

Hey SER, The emergency light mounted on the ceiling in your garadge, is it hooked up to the house or two a outlet?

[@TBGD724]

Can you have a system of the Wheelock as😊

[@slowskybby]

the white four strobe one with voice evac is my school fire alarm

[@TheRedViper86]

10:13 it has different tones

[@fireandsecurity6359]

nice

[@jeep3robloxRoblox]

SER come back we miss you

[@michaelfmarek]

Can you do a system test using only fire bells

[@COLTHEGORILLAAAA]

W vid

[@Pro_gamers183]

I bought I simplex addressable t bar on eBay and I got it wired it to a sounder. And I just found out that you need a panel to use a addressable pull station but I don't have a panel. My Addressable one has no strict board, so I don't know how to change it too conventional. Please help me. Btw I love your vids.

[@TEAMWHIRLWINDINTERCEPT]

They had these at my school

[@FOSK-lc9op]

I have these alarms in my high school

[@qpzrlol1078]

Hi do you still have the custom Fire alarm boards

[@andrewdye7881]

Can you do a video of your fire alarm collecting story?

[@becca1000-o9w]

In my school have that fire alarm

[@godgamer1710]

does anyone know about a fire alarm witch you dont have to wire in {battrey powerd} and has a horn and strobe

[@ZacharyHappy366]

Hey ser safety, how do you wire a fire alarm to a light switch cause I wanna get that one working

[@77ts2.05]

Nice love it

[@Glassyquiz733]

I think it was a speaker strobe but I'm not sure

[@Georninja]

Bruh wtf why would the mounting bracket be sold separately

[@Nate-vi8pj]

On my house system that I built

[@Tiny-One]

Why do you keep beating the edge of it on the table???

[@robinmoylan662]

went to hard rock in 2022 and the voice alarm went off the whole time. And a second alarm was playing too.

[@Glassyquiz733]

I seen a 4 strobe one

[@jp-alarms]

We've been using led in the uk for over 15 years lmao

[@jaxrules2892]

Please come back

[@vipfarooqui2861]

How to wiring for GCS VWF

[@firesafetyclass2903]

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[@firesafetyclass2903]

When are you going to upload?????🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

[@NolanPatterson-m5n]

w channel!!!

[@jaxrules2892]

Let’s get Grant to 100K subs

[@Redbird45]

Do they make speaker strobes for voice evac systems?

[@Neptunesalad12]

3rd

[@majesticcrane9962]

Where have you been?

[@jzzhang726]

idk where he has been, probably his job or something

[@sarahmclaren7202]

It kind of sounds like an est genesis

[@PeanutVR19016]

My fire alarm broke so I’m crying 😢

[@MonsterjamHotwheels112]

8:25 it said a meme

[@NyxKemo]

I have the white horn/strobe with no lettering version (GC-AVWN) and i absolutely despise it, the strobe are dimmer than they should be and the horn is very quiet, absolute failure of an alarm

[@Quandaledingle23102]

Why memes?

[@McNuggets-e2507]

I love your vids can you put my comment in one of your vids I’m a big fan.

[@Duckyhelper]

Do a kiddie before I leak a message to the fbi

[@DevoFavoYT]

First