Kids don't really like comics made for kids

[@Chuckles_The_Echidna]

There are few things a kid likes more than feeling or being told their grown up. It's why they like being called "young man" or "young lady".

[@valeriemcdonald440]

I think kids like kid characters when they do adult things. Kids starting a business, kids in a survival situation, kids being secret super heroes, etc.

[@davidgantenbein9362]

Seems reasonable. Looking at typical kid toys, playing adult is a lot of that stuff.

[@TheMagnificentMongoSlade]

One thing I've learned is that kids don't look up to other kids, they look up to adults. This was the impetus for heroes to actually be heroic and for adults to actually he mature--children are watching. Over the years this has been lost.

[@smithryansmith]

I generally agree. As a youngster I never liked the "kid" characters, for instance I despised Robin and wanted Batman to work alone. I only started to like Power pack when I became an adult. I don't think kids like being pandered to. I never needed to "see myself" in fiction. Which always kills the argument that people need to "look" like the characters they read/watch. This has always been naive. I think part of it is knowing kids are never really in danger. Watching Jurrasic park, I was never afraid for the kids, theres no way they'd let dinosaurs eat kids. Adults on the other hand, were usually at risk.

[@Rak-Nay]

Me 2

[@shakurburton9358]

FACTS & TRUTH: Kids want to be treated like adults, hard as adult life is, too. Regardless, we need to do so anyway, when it comes to our entertainment in general, not just comics/graphic novels/manga, for example. Books, film, live-action, cartoons/anime, you name it - treat your audience with respect (something Western fare isn't doing enough as of late, hence why anime/manga are booming so much, as things stand right now.). Okay, take care.

[@galactica1981]

The Marvel GI Joe comic is a good example I can think of. It was popular with kids, but the writing by Larry Hama was never dumbed down. It certainly doesn't read like a kid's comic.

[@jean-yvesmead3972]

My children liked kid characters, but only when written for adults. They lost interest in childish stories and characters about the time they became able to read for themselves.

[@liljenborg2517]

This viewer has a total point. Kid's LOATH kid characters. That's why PJ Masks, Paw Patrol, Spidey and His Amazing Friends, Action Pack just can't get an audience. No one watches Ryan's World or Coco-melon on KZbin or Sophia the First or Doc McStuffins on Disney. They hate books staring kids like Narnia, Harry Potter, Magic Tree House . . . Oh. Wait. These things are all HUGELY POPULAR with kids in the age range they are aimed at. Kid characters have a LONG history of appealing to kids. Now, there is a line somewhere around age 10 (and this varies widely depending on the kid) where kids start finding _childish_ stories that worked fine for 5-year-olds, well, childish (and boring and beneath them). Books like Narnia or Treasure Island or Baby-sitters Club feature kids that get to _act_ like adults in their stories, and so a lot of stories about teens (whether its the old Hardy Boys stories or modern tales like DelToro's Trollhunter) become more popular even with pre-teen audiences because it's easier to imagine some 15-16-year-old kid getting to pull off some epic hero-who-saves-the-world sort of story (no one ever asks where the heck Shaggy and Velma's parent are). And that, I think is the problem with so many comics aimed at younger audiences: they come off as Barney-level-childish even to a 10-year-old.

[@LarryKingUndead]

They sure did in the past, with the likes of Donald Duck, Scrooge, Richie Rich, Casper, Little Lulu, Archie & Friends, comics made for kids were hot in the past, and you can still find Archie in grocery stores across the nation(and not in the collectible card ghetto like the big two). But since the industry has bottlenecked a few times that caters superhero/crime fighter-centric comics, and gone from the easily accessible newsstand to the almost never convenient direct market comic book stores, even if there kid/all ages friendly comics for kids they'd be too expensive. A kid could get a Roblox card instead of buying 3 comics(if they're lucky), and even if they were inclined to read American comics, they'd probably gravitate towards someone/thing they though was cool/neat not something that's trying to relate to them.

[@pavo1394]

The kid's comics you described reminded me of The Simpsons episode wherein Marge gets the violent Itchy and Scratchy cartoons replaced with ones where they're just nice to each other all of the time, and the kids stop watching television.

[@KageMinowara]

Throughout my childhood I always engaged with media that was notionally a few years too old for me. I have a theory that children do not want to be children. Instinctively they want to grow up into adults and are looking for stories that will help them figure out how to do that.

[@klaushenna6778]

I’d say a big problem with the comics for kids is the art. Sometimes it looks far too childish

[@SamuraiMotoko]

When I was a kid, i remember liking shows with grown people, and noticed how after many years, shoes started to feature more kids as protagonist, and they are not as engaging Don't know why producers said "we include this kid character to insert themselves in the story" but they add the dumbest kid around

[@kosmosXcannon]

When I was a kid, I grew up watching older cartoons on Cartoon Network and Warner Bros like the Looney Tunes, Animaniacs, and He-Man. If I had watched anything meant for kids it would have been on Nickelodeon with things like the Rugrats, Hey Arnold, and Rocket Power. Even then, outside of the Rugrats the characters tended to be older than myself. Outside of the older animated Disney movies, I generally didn't care for their channel. Then Toonami got me interested in anime with Tenchi Muyo and Outlaw Star. Toonami actually had a midnight slot before Adult Swim became a thing. There was Dragon Ball Z and Sailor Moon, but I considered those to be cartoons because I was younger and didn't know better. When the networks started their pivot to live action, I started to abandon the channels. Thankfully with the internet, I was able to keep up with watching anime and the best part is that there was never any real shortage of what to watch.

[@michaelhawkins7867]

You're right. Kids aspire up.

[@zenvariety9383]

Kids want to see characters that they can aspire to. Most people don't like goofy nonsense unless they have a warpped perception of reality.

[@terracannon876]

I think the thought that goes into kids media has always been underestimated. Kids, from what I remember when I was younger, enjoy stories meant for adults that have more of a "fun" focus, which can mean anything from more flashy art or fighting scenes to less dialogue-heavy sitting around in a room and talking scenes. However, I think this most heavily translates to a show that in general has more positive emotions such as hope, passion, confident characters, etc. Of course, there is death and sadness and some intrigue, but it never wallows in that. It's treated as a moment of sorrow, an obstacle to overcome, and a character growth moment. Maybe my shounen and shoujo manga influence growing up is showing. I don't think kids really care if the characters are kid or adult. They just want them to be strong.

[@FOLIPE]

I'd guess most mangas have main characters that are around the same age as their intended audience, though, or at least a character of that age in the main group. Most shonen main characters are teens but there's an ample supply of kids too, from Naruto and DB through many sport mangas (Inazuma 11 and Captain Tsubasa) to most of those kid franchises associated to a game like Pokemon or Yokai Watch or Beyblade

[@terracannon876]

@@FOLIPE Yeah, typically you have the main character being around the age of the target audience because they're easier to relate to. It's why I think kids can be interested in watching kid characters; you just have to write them to be characters and not "they're kids so they're silly or stupid."

[@dicenster]

I agree, it's not a matter of main characters are kids or adults but stories themselves. When I was a child I often read manga like main characters were kids but they were in heavy and harsh situations or surroundings, and those stories were like how they overcame the obstacles and had happy endings, but sometimes, in horror manga, they were getting more and more worse situations and never saved or had bad endings, and that often got me traumatized. They were scary for kids though but many kids liked scary stories in my classrooms (we shared those manga) even though some of us could not go to the bathroom at night by ourselves. Since manga for children often had had decent plots, they were also enjoyed by grownups. I remember that my aunt used to read my manga when she came over to my house with her kids (my cousins) when I was in elementary school.

[@dicenster]

Another thing what I remember is that my school teachers in Japan often restricted us to bring manga to the classrooms since some of the students read manga during the classes. My elementary school teacher once confiscated manga from one of our classmates but she ended up reading the manga and asked the classmate for the next volumes.

[@the-blackManic]

I think it has more to do with the quality of the writing, as you said, than the fact that the characters are kids or not. The Amulet series did quite well and has many fans.

[@bobgoblin7733]

Kids don’t like comics. Kids like manga. Period.

[@thegodofalldragons]

"Kids don't want to watch kids." - Mr. Lunt, Jonah: A VeggieTales Movie (audio commentary)

[@AlucardNoir]

Perch, it's 2022, they're not yuppies, they're hipsters.

[@illithidlore]

When TV shows are written about younger characters, but in a family friendly way, the viewers will largely be younger than the characters. If you look at something like Saved By The Bell, no one in high school actually watched it. It was kids younger than high school age who did, who thought that's what high school would be like.

[@clonegeek3317]

Kids like adventure and action

[@benevolentremnant2949]

I think kids--and everyone else--like characters that are written well, and there are few authors who can write young characters well (because a lot of those authors don't understand kids' expectations around stories, because they don't understand kids in general. It's a vicious circle.) There are two main problems with writing kids: the psychology/naivete, and the slang/speech patterns. It's easy to overemphasize or totally screw up both these elements. And (also like the rest of us) kids also like protagonists who are better than us in some way, so if you try to write the most "realistic" kid possible you're probably going to fail anyway.

[@LeeroyPorkins]

Same with Board Games, I'd love to shop at a local shop, but my disability progression, gas prices, and game prices take me online.

[@InfamyOrDeath-__-]

I always loved that word “yuppy”, there’s an English TV show called Only Fools and Horses and that’s where I first heard it. I love that show.

[@drewtheunspoken3988]

I think it's because one of two things writers do when they write kids. They're either written as obnixious know-it-alls who constantly do stupid things and blame adults for those mistakes or they're written as far more mature and wise than all of the adults. It's rare that a writer can actually write realistic kids. Also, when I was a kid, I wanted to be Batman. I never once thought being Robin would be cool. In fact, I preferred Batman without Robin. Maybe I was too serious as a youth? I don't know. I think kid characters are from the prospective that kids actually want to see themselves in their entertainment which, I believe, no child has wanted ever. I'm not talking about diversity, I'm talking about kids. They would rather read Black Panther than, say, a Patriot comic.

[@ferrarriohh]

Agree with all you said here, i sorta loathed Robin as a child. About Patriot: why is he even a thing? Patriot is like knockoff Cap wearing white (“Why?”) while he could be a male Black Widow type of black ops character. So many small things at Marvel id just wipe from existence …

[@drewtheunspoken3988]

@@ferrarriohh I used him as an example but is he still even a thing? I haven't seen around in a while.

[@ferrarriohh]

@@drewtheunspoken3988 i really think he’s been set up in the Falcon & WS show… same with a new Falcon. Yawn

[@drewtheunspoken3988]

@@ferrarriohh embarrasingly, I haven't watched that yet. I just moved to an area where I can get decent internet this last week. So I have a lot of Marvel shows to get caught up on. I finally get to watch Daredevil.

[@ferrarriohh]

@@drewtheunspoken3988 Now thats a quality show. I wish they could all be DD, but for SOME REASON, doing an in-depth character study over 3 seasons with complete arcs and side character development is off the table

[@aaronanglea]

when i was a kid, i NEVER bought a kids comic

[@lilformersmatt]

It's always been true. Young kids want to read stories about tweens and up. Tweens want to read about teenagers and up. Teenagers want to read about adults and up.

[@ink-cow]

Funny how the same stuff kids find boring in comics is the same kind of thing (most) adults find boring in comics. I happened to be looking at some old Charlton/Hanna-Barbera comics the other day, and one thing you have to give them is that they get right to it. No pages of wasted dialogue and filler, just straight to Fred and Barney sneaking out to go bowling when they're supposed to be babysitting (Dino'll watch 'em!) followed by a kidnapping where the goons get roughed up by Bam-Bam. The dialogue wasn't particularly good, a lack of good jokes, but the story at least knew what it was doing and got there.

[@ThW5]

Yes, they do... Provided that those kids are written well, are likable and have interesting adventures, and open new worlds or aspects of the real world.

[@Rak-Nay]

When I was a kid I rented the Riders of Lost Arc and call all the gang from the neighbor to watch. We just loved every second, it become a party. Then I did the same with the Temple of Doom. Untill today I remember the hate most people have against Short Hound, that to some "ruined" the film. I dont remember any kid who liked historys with children.

[@lucymiau5700]

When I was a kid, I only liked kids stuff if there was a kind of an adventure or action story behind. And the Story needed a constand progress to a mostly happy end. The stories had to be escapistic. Western, SciFi Fantasie or Crime. No scool, no everyday stuff, no endless discussions and no visible educational message.

[@greggoat6570]

It’s cool you used that thumbnail because I specifically remember reading those Power Pack kids comics as a kid.

[@deadpilled2942]

"It's for kids." = "The quality is shit"

[@wildcardproductions6010]

Ben 10 worked. That worked REALLY well actually. But like you said: plenty of action, cool alien/superhero stuff and the main characters were engaging and interesting so yeah. Good one

[@commonsense5199]

You rang, Perch? People have different interests. There's Kids that like kid characters some like adults characters. Kids like Billy Batson as he's a kid can transform into an Adult. So it works both ways. Even manga have kid characters, Gohan start to be a Z fighter when he's 5 years old after a year with Piccolo. Saoirse from The Last Witch(I highly recommended it, Perch) is 12 years old, she a kid wants adventure, her father forbid it until he was killed off screen. I remember Red Hood Guild manga, Velou is a kid protagonist. Even in novels like Percy Jackson, Cirque Du Freak and Spiderwick Chronicles have Kid Protagonists. Everyone enjoyed The Super Sons, Jon is younger than Damian Wayne, right? Damian is 13 In the beginning of DC Rebirth. Is he is still 13? or he grew by a year? He looks taller. And where there's other 13 year olds joining Teen Titans, I might misremember that Kid Devil was that age in the original young justice comic, right? I also remember Molly from Runaways' she started out as a kid hero. Now Most Runaways like Nico, Chase, Karolina and Alex are adults now, Victor is adult too and Gert still same age cause time travel stuff and Molly is now a tween. I remember Shilo Norman in the Jack Kirby's Mister Miracle start as a kid, then he grows up organically and respectfully(not how DC did with Jon Kent) to become the 3rd Mister Miracle. Oh god, are you talking about Vecchio's art on Danny Lore's Champions? I agree that art make it looks unpleasant. All characters look like they have collagen lips. This is from someone who read Champions back when it started. Humberto Ramos' art do work well In the beginning of Champions. *"And Ramos' Strange Academy deserves to win at this year Eisher Awards". It is a best comic that can be enjoy by both kids and adults* And Vita's Children of the Atom is also that trope too. Even when Bubby is jealous at Carmen for being an actual mutant but apologize and made that speech about her identity and yadayada.

[@FOLIPE]

Goku himself starts the original Dragon Ball as a kid. On american animation, who can forget the huge popularity of things like Ben 10 and Avatar? Kids don't like kids, give me a break.

[@dicenster]

Kids can understand mature and complicated story lines, they can enjoy stories which are aimed at older demographics.

[@tbynlogan]

The Japanese film BATTLE ROYALE is about high school kids who are around 15-17 years old. I think you should show it to your kids, they'd love it. I liked the Power Pack Gurihiru stuff, especially the one where they fight Kang.

[@commentarytalk1446]

Well it is one of the best stories FOR "kids" ever made, but should be used for early-teens at soonest and not before for best effects and is good for all teens and twenties also. As previous comment by terracannon876: For younger than this, more challenges and adult settings but more focus on fun and positive emotions overall. Guillermo Del Toro said something good about kids and stories: They are able to recover from set-backs more than adults are (though there's a cost still) and darker stories for children eg some monster that eats some of the more foolish class-mates and shows the gory grabbing said children and swallowing them, is actually good fare for children's stories eg The Brothers Grimm original stories were quite dark in this way: All the more entertaining and serious!

[@jk6919]

My kiddo (special needs) does love Damian Wayne. I think he relates to Damian being a wild child. He'll let me read Lil Gotham to him, but the images are more than he can see visually. (Not a know on the adorable art. Nguyen is one of my favs.) He really LOVES the Williamson Robin run, and will have me read multiple issues at a time. My niece is 4. Her favorite character is Wonder Woman. I get her super power girls, but I've already picked up Legend as I think she would enjoy it more. She says she lives Super Power Girls, but likes us to read the Wonder Woman pages the most. It would be nice if there were comics with real stories, but age appropriate material, simplified art and new reader vocabulary.

[@tomjones4921]

Good video...You're no Zack or anything, but I did like this.

[@thehmc]

I've literally had to tell every spergo that reads Bleeding Cool that a million times. Kids don't look down the ladder, they look up. I get that we're supposed to revere Sesame Street and all, but when I was a kid, I didn't give a crap about Sesame Street and damn sure turned the TV to Thundarr the Barbarian when given the choice. Diaper comics like Dogman aren't the future of comics. Kids deserve good stories and action adventure comics like we had.

[@sssspider]

Counterpoint: YA books and Shonen manga almost exclusively star kid/teenage characters and seem to be doing well for themselves.

[@FOLIPE]

Exactly! Its all about the content not whether there are kid characters in it. Like, take the best selling mangas in history, kid characters are all over that list, both in more recent successes like SpyxFamily and classic hits like Astroboy

[@KasumiKenshirou]

When I was a little kid watching Scooby-Doo, I didn't really think of "those meddling kids" as as kids at all, despite the adult characters calling them that. Kids my own age or younger were frequently written as more annoying characters, so I didn't like them. I despised "Zak, the fifth Turtle" in the Ninja Turtles cartoon and "The Junior Ghostbusters" in "The Real Ghostbusters". I learned later that the "Junior Ghostbusers" were the result of executive meddling and the shows writers also hated them. That actually seems to be very common with cartoons, where an executive is the one that is demanding a kid character to appeal to kids, and the writers saying, "I remember being a kid; kids don't want this". An extreme example of people putting kids into shows to appeal to kids and failing is "Doozy Bots", the pilot film for the wisely aborted plan to introduce SD Gundam toys to America. It proudly brags about having "lots of kids". (And one of kids is basically just Webster. Were they trying to get funding from Michael Jackson?) kzbin.info/www/bejne/m2nYnmSEbJ10nrs

[@mikescott9012]

When I was a kid I hated kid characters I liked the adults.

[@ferrarriohh]

I liked Power Pack as a young man BUT its because they’d tied them to Wolverine and Mutant Massacre properly. Plus it was interesting having an analogue to Fantastic Four (intentionally? Idk) who also were friends with Franklin when he was a child. Remember when Franklin had a friendship with Kitty Pryde? Yep, but does Marvelle Comics…nahhh

[@artfire28]

I let my kids see shows from Blues Clues to anime (some are really not for their age) so we do our best to put lock in our streaming. Its even getting harder to protect them from woke shows these days and its getting exhausting.

[@kidicarus2215]

Part of the problem is the writer patronizing the audience. In some of my favorite YA books, they challenged you, taught you something new, and gave you a different perspective on the world. I learned about tesseracts, iron maidens, and Welsh mythology from these books. I was a fourth grader at the time. That's why I find it baffling/disappointing that many writers seem to talk down to younger audiences.

[@folly6682]

The problems with kids comics are basically the same as those for any other comics. The difference is that kids have less patience for bad writing and they aren't invested in comics. The point about the difference in story telling between kids books and modern comics is very true. If you compare any good kid oriented graphic novel with a kid oriented comic (say baby sister's club and the IDW my little pony) the comics are slower, have way more dialog and aren't really focused like the graphic novels. The comics also tend to use a lot more big words, and they use a lot of narrative devices like flashbacks that younger readers will have trouble with.

[@TheHairopia]

With the kids sometimes they overemphasis the topic and not the story( America Chavez and riri Williams) and other times like in young justice with Peter David, they did a wonderful topic about kids and what they are going through with sins of youth. But other times it’s just they want them there to speak the modern dlang

[@skytowergnome4664]

Have your daughters ever seen Johnny Quest?

[@brianbordon6419]

I was 10 or 11 when Power Pack debuted, but was not interested. The only thing with kids I liked was Lil' Rascals.

[@ChaosPod]

I remember reading some Power Pack comics when I was young and I enjoyed them. Especially when they teamed up with Franklin Richards from the Fantastic Four, or with Wolverine.

[@davekolan862]

I never wanted kid based stuff as a kid; I always read adult superheroes or more mature fiction

[@danielsherrier7236]

When I was nine or ten, I went straight to Batman, Flash, and Superman. It didn't even occur to me to look for comics starring kids or branded as being specifically for kids. I did enjoy the Robin miniseries and series by Chuck Dixon, but that felt more like a Batman spinoff than a kids book. Superheroes are supposed to be aspirational figures, not audience surrogates. And any "Hey, kids! Comics!" signage in stores tended to annoy me even when I was a kid.

[@drewtheunspoken3988]

Vita is trying to show how people should communicate properly in a healthy friendship. Edit: I should have added: but real people only talk like that in sacharine Disney or Nikelodeon shows or those " family" sitcoms that used to be on ABC' TGIF line-up.

[@commentarytalk1446]

The bottle labeled "medicine" but actually the liquid inside is "poison".

[@CaptainTae]

I was the target demo for Power Pack when it came out. I was never drawn to it. I had 2 or 3 issues.

[@smithryansmith]

Me too. I like it now. Didnt want to read it then.

[@drewtheunspoken3988]

I was surprised by the few Power Pack issues I've read. Theye were parts of various X-Men crossovers and they were pretty dark.

[@chrisbaker8533]

All people want is a good story. Doesn't matter if it's a 'kid' or an adult.

[@Lazarus1095]

Well, Perch, from what you're describing it sounds like Vita Ayala spent a significant chunk of her formative years sitting in a child psychologist's office, and she picked up the lingo.

[@BitingComics]

When you write for kids, I've always been told you want your characters to be a couple of years older than the target audience.

[@MayanFrighter100000]

I have noticed that many comics meant for kids lack any entertainment for kids, also the high price of comics is also making it harder for kids to buy comics.

[@MutantGenius]

A bit aside from comics, but two of horror fiction's biggest authors, Stephen King and Clive Barker, have each successfully written and marketed books aimed squarely at the kids' demographic. ('The Girl Who Loved Tom Gordon' and 'The Thief of Always', respectively) It all boils down to the talent of the writers.

[@MutantGenius]

Perch, good topic... But since we're talking about a medium that was born strictly for children in the first place, don't you think a better one would be: 'Adults don't really like comics made for adults'? Seems like a lot of that goin' around nowadays, what with all the fun being sucked out of them continuously...

[@jimdetry9420]

I think it's more accurate to say, Adults don't like comics made for woke twitter.

[@earthdog7900]

If there was a PJ Mask comic, my son would have loved it from the age of 4-6.

[@jackratscratpack9323]

i remember getting my first iron man comic at my schools book fair

[@blacktionjackson7133]

Kids want to be adults. The reason Captain Marvel (Shazam) was so popular was because he was a kid who said a magic word and turned into an adult superhero.

[@chrisjefferson2439]

I liked the Super Friends cartoon as a kid but hated the Wonder Twins.

[@theplaguedoctor5773]

Please tell me Marvel doesn’t still have Power Pack running around without having aged a day. I remember these kids running around with the New Mutants who has grown up.

[@michaelhorning6014]

I didn't mind kid characters, but not smartass kids who are constantly outthinking adults. In high school I very much identified with the New Mutants, feeling weird and out of place (as all teenagers do).

[@nathaniellee2263]

But I think the real question is do young boys like kid comics more than young girls? Yes and no because there aren't many kid comics for boys as there are for girls and boys like comic books with a lot of action and adventure in them and there aren't many of those.

[@blacktionjackson7133]

If you're holding your wife's purse, you're not holding your wife's purse. You're holding your husband's purse, because you're the wife now.

[@epicortez666]

Hi perch quick question, what’s your go to beer?

[@ComicsPerch]

In Texas here it’s been blood and honey. In mainstream places with limited supply blue moon.

[@JuliePascal]

Is this all just another manifestation of "people can only enjoy reading about people (or super-heroes) just like themselves?" I'm more convinced every day that (far more) comics should be written for kids. Not once do I mean "baby Superman." I mean somewhat sanitized adults-having-adventures. I recall too many conversations about weird Americans who assume that comics (graphic novels!) or cartoons are for kids (No. Do NOT take your 10 year old grandson to Watchmen! OMG!) compared to anime and manga not having that baggage and how we would be better to admit that comics and cartoons aren't just for kids. Maybe it would be better if some of them were. So Superman is given the dilemma of choosing to save Lois or a school bus full of children (he figures out how to do both) but he never ever just breaks the neck of the evil villain. Batman is dark and gritty but he doesn't kill his villains either. They all go to prison or the mad house so that they can get out and do it again. Even Wonder Woman outsmarts the bad guy and gets them arrested instead of just dispatching them. Spiderman has innocent girl-friend angst and sticks the criminals in webs. Etc. etc.

[@prufan]

" Even Wonder Woman outsmarts the bad guy and gets them arrested instead of just dispatching them." that's not exactly true, look at the Snyder Cut for example

[@JuliePascal]

@@prufan I was thinking more in the terms of LInda Carter. ;D

[@HonduranHoneymoonhon]

Wonder Woman was never for Kids. As for Superman, Batman, Spider-man not killing I don't think that has much if any affect on kids liking them maybe that's dependent on the age Killed or Arrested

[@EatWave]

Stories made for children with child protagonists have to contend with the problem of a Fleeting Demographic even if they are successful. If they characters do not grow and age with the audience, the series risks being left behind by those who have aged out, forcing them to continually win over new audience members who only last for a year or so at the most.

[@FOLIPE]

Well, I think naturally both things can happen, depending on the franchise. Like how Harry Potter has aged but Ash Ketchum from Pallet Town hasn't.

[@Drixenol86]

Just like kid characters in 80’s cartoons made for the kids to relate to.

[@priestmorrison6564]

!!UH, DUH!?! that is WHY, lil super man lil batman was EPIC. feikken THREW away....moneeyyyyy.....

[@AL-ws5yi]

I only liked the kid characters if they weren’t whiny or annoying or always needed to be rescued.

[@nowlwane9623]

Anime is better than comics. Why do you think that is?

[@WTSD850]

I don't have a job and even I know that you make something too expensive peopel will be lesss inclined to buy it

[@jimdetry9420]

I don't know what age range you assign to "kids" but, and correct me if I'm wrong, weren't the Harry Potter books about kids and written for kids? I haven't read them but they seem to have been well done and popular.

[@FOLIPE]

Do kids really not like kids in comics? There's plenty of successful franchises of comics (even more when it comes to books) which are clearly geared towards children and are centered around kid characters. I am thinking here of the abundant franchises from Japan (Pokemon, Doraemon, Digimon, original DB, Shin-chan, etc), but even some from Europe like Spirou et Fantasio, or even here in Brazil the most popular comic franchise by far, Turma da Mônica. Kid characters might not be enough to attract children, but they don't seem to be universal kid repellents.

[@cliffwoodbury5319]

But they like manga made for kids. Comics just can't win.

[@Icanonlycountto4]

So could it be possible to make a story that involves kid characters but not advertise it that way and get kids interested?

[@dcamaag709]

I loved the marvel adventures series growing up which helped me to graduate into mainstream. Never read power pack tho. I like bud lite which is really the soda of beers, that or wine.

[@kennytodd7192]

I never really liked kid characters