We Need To Talk About Bama Rush...

[@arin999]

the complicated and high stakes social theatre that wealthy people put themselves through is mindboggling

[@CatBarefield]

So well said

[@hannadeeh]

Lol good way to put it

[@alvamind5286]

Honestly, though. Too rich for my blood, I say. If I can't make friends without all these theatrics, I guess my only friend is my dog. Lol

[@haleytruslow7200]

Beautifully stated

[@susannasolis2864]

Yes, thank you for putting into word what I was seeing. The money on outfits alone is crazy. Don't get me wrong, I love clothes but, the parents must spend at least $5000 on clothes for the week.

[@mckenzieh5873]

Vividly remember asking my roommate why a certain sorority was considered "bottom tier". Without missing a beat she casually says, "because their girls are ugly." But sure.. it's about grades and character.. 😂

[@ButterscotchBlonde]

Yep, it's terrible but that is truly how it seemed sororities were "ranked" when i rushed 12 years ago. The "less attractive" girls, or the girls who don't fit the stereotype of what a typical sorority girl is thought to be get pushed to the "bottom tier" sororities. I started to rush, got bad vibes from the whole process, and dropped out after a few days. I'm sure it's a positive experience for some people, but it definitely was not for me.

[@pri.sci.lla.]

I’ve seen ugly girls in “highly ranked” sorority’s

[@Dannydefeato25]

Attractive based on White American standards lol

[@surfsup4019]

I heard that ugly is also code for diverse :/ really terrible

[@samday414]

@@pri.sci.lla.they were probably rich. You can get away with being ugly if you are rich.

[@krux3759]

Trying to get into a sorority sounds like an introverts worst nightmare! I can’t imagine having to talk to strangers for over a week lol

[@KorenKlein]

My friend got into a sorority and wanted me to try too. When i found out they all slept in a large room with bunkbeds, no alarms, no phones, no personal bedroom, I was like "nope"! I need my personal sleeping space. This introvert can not do sororities!!! 🤣

[@Veggieblondie]

I know right. Sounds like hell

[@kalpic11]

exactly. college life is stressful enough.

[@NatalieMarie917]

@@KorenKlein I’m so glad my sorority wasn’t set up like that! I just had to share a room with two other girls, and one of them was barely ever there 👌🏼

[@Annie_Annie__]

Right? I’m an introvert, plus I’m disabled, grew up poor, and am not very “girly”; all of this is almost like watching an alien species. I can’t understand how they’re all so chipper when that looks like hell to me, lol.

[@gretanicolosi5283]

as a non-american, the whole concept of sorority houses sounds like they took the concept of friendship, girlbossified and yassified it and then turned it into a competition (of course)

[@CaulkMongler]

Add a dash of cult-like mentality~

[@livmashupmansen191]

As an American, I couldn't understand the sorority and fraternity mentality. 😂

[@pattyfranks7855]

Yep!

[@Mojojojo85757]

sororities and fraternities are very old. Has nothing to do with friendship and everything to do with secrecy and connections .

[@Puddleduck1]

My little UK brain is frazzled by things like this 😅 it just seems culty, cliquey and cringe! 😅

[@constancedanilis2209]

I feel like a sorority drama show would do so well

[@caitlingill]

It's fictional but watch scream queens

[@Piper.King3]

"Greek" was actually pretty entertaining too

[@BlendedBarbieDoll]

MTV had one years ago called Sorority life It only lasted a couple of seasons like 20 years ago 😉

[@TheSmokey420247]

@@BlendedBarbieDollcame here to say this! I remember it being a decent show🤷‍♀️

[@tashababyyy]

@@caitlingillI came here to say this! Such an underrated movie.

[@lorifrederick2367]

Then they graduate, become a "girl boss" for a MLM, and when that fails, they become a "life coach"

[@StephanieGould]

Then they become a Karen.

[@oceancitynutrition2125]

Dead on.

[@HughMadBro]

YEESSSSS OMFG. They're the worst of the world hustling mascara & body stuff & they've been skinny since they were like 13 😂🤦🏼‍♀️

[@painexotic3757]

LMAO so accurate

[@julil3021]

Someone got bullied by a blonde in high school

[@ninaj3662]

Can we also talk about how problematic Greek life is? Racism, classism, cult-like behavior, hazing, etc. Absolutely terrifying. Sororities sound like my personal hell

[@Feverm00n]

I feel better about thinking this whole culture looks lame as hell.

[@embera.1202]

Yes!

[@Ask8613]

Stepford wives meets skull and bones

[@alyaniellewilliams7419]

Living there was hell as a service industry worker. Serving sorority and frat parties is the absolute worst. I had two coworkers that were in one of the sororities and it's cut throat 🙃 they have so many unsaid rules that you're given after you rush

[@diamondgirl7519]

Especially the hazing.

[@lilswimgurl1]

As someone from Alabama, it's a culture that I try to avoid. Almost all of my school bullies have become sorority girls in college, and I've known about and heard from friends about the racism that goes on in sororities as well.

[@tangie06_33]

It's very toxic. I'd love to know how many women actually stay in the sorority for the full 4 years of college.

[@se2664]

Of course there’s racism! Throughout all the video clips I’ve only seen ONE BLACK GIRL. That says a lot about the sorority itself . It’s not easy to get in if you’re a first generation student and come from a lower economic status

[@EbonyTackie]

There’s a whole book about it that I read for one of my classes about it called paying for the party

[@bayprkr526]

I'm from Alabama too, lived right by Tuscaloosa and sorority girls are evil, not all but a lot.

[@tangie06_33]

@@se2664 to be fair, there are historically black sororities as well. The Divine 9. They are not exclusive, but neither are these. It's weird to me there is still a division there but there is and they are governed by two different councils. And I do think the Divine 9 sororities are less exclusionary to lower socioeconomic status as you mentioned. I do know those sororities/frats in the Panhellenic Association money talks. A lot of college students simply can't afford it even if they were interested.

[@pachadela]

“Pageant queens…they’re the strongest army that we have” “You’re going to break before them. And when you do, they will kill you with kindness” KILLED ME 😂😂😂

[@stinks7065]

Honestly as a European this is all so wild and crazy to me. Even just the scale of the university campuses and the fact that some even have their own sports stadiums is wild! The only touch I had on frats and sororities is from films and tv but even they don't go into detail about how insane the rushing process is. Utterly fascinating but I have to say I'm very glad our universities have nothing like that tbh

[@JessiMoonSix]

Even some of our high schools have elaborate sports stadiums. High school sports has its own counter culture here, in a sense. It’s all a bit silly to me, but to each their own

[@stinks7065]

@@JessiMoonSix Oh I'm not knocking it, it's just absolutely wild to me. Some of these universities and high schools probably have stadiums bigger than the ones the Finnish national hockey league uses!

[@bloodtypena]

As a fellow european I agree.

[@flutistnotflautist4740]

It’s wild to most of us Americans too. Ha!

[@ishathakor]

honestly it's really wild being here and having a whole ass stadium on campus (i don't go to alabama tho). the wild thing is i think it's actually easier to fill up university stadiums than regular sports stadiums (for sports games) because we have like thousands of students who are free on game day and it becomes a campus-wide event. it's also a lot easier to actually get to the stadiums because they're generally walking distance from even the farthest dorms (about a 15 minute walk from my dorm to the stadium and i live on the opposite side of campus from it). as someone who isn't really into american football (genuinely an extremely boring game to watch in full) it honestly seems like a waste of space to me. it also means they do graduation ceremonies outdoors regardless of what kind of weather we have which is horrible

[@indigoearthhealing4927]

The fact there are people going broke getting into college and working full time vs this excessive privilege is staggering to see… this is worlds different than my college experience lmfao

[@Annie_Annie__]

Right? I worked full time so I could pay for my community college degree out-of-pocket. It took me 5 years to get a 2-year degree because I often could only afford to take one class per semester. For a while I was mostly living off the food I could steal from the restaurant I worked at because I couldn’t afford rent, my car, bills, tuition, *and* food. Seeing the way these girls are experiencing college is difficult for me to wrap my head around.

[@pretelquetzal]

Seriously my college experience was class, lab, homework/study and work. I didn't have time for anything else really

[@ameliasandoval8663]

Many of these girls have tuition scholarships (rightly so, their GPAs are so high) so if they aren't from a wealthy family, they spend their tuition money on dues

[@chrissy9153]

I mean I work a job but I go to a 4 year private university and I’m still in a sorority there’s girls who have their parents pay for everything but I pay for my own dues, shirts etc

[@laurenbader1566]

@@ameliasandoval8663 its still inaccessible, because of the money on clothes, events, jewelry, etc.

[@lindsayann9856]

this is so weird to me… it’s like spoiled entitled brats transforming into spoiled entitled adults 🤦🏼‍♀️

[@Willowtree82]

Nah they are just young. I guess I'm getting old and judge young ppl less harshly

[@SweetNothing937]

These are the entitled brats that transform into Karans in their later adult life 🙃

[@HeatherwithanH]

1000%. When you come from a family that has that kind of money to throw at one week’s worth of outfits, the extra $10k per year, and Lord knows what else, you probably never heard the word “no” in your life.

[@avalonsignoraalmas6150]

I don’t understand why y’all are judging them so harshly. They didn’t do anything wrong.

[@guizhongs]

@@avalonsignoraalmas6150 for real

[@naturallyemily]

I was in a sorority in CA and we had a Disneyland consultant come in and tell us what the most welcoming scent would be to make people want to join our house to pump through the rooms. He was part of the team that said to use vanilla in the park so people will buy more food. Everything is calculated!

[@kaseylewis2859]

So, what is the welcoming scent?

[@trueshipsxxx2018]

@@kaseylewis2859 That's what i wanna know! 😅

[@lpm827]

The scent of money and privilege

[@amyc9155]

@@kaseylewis2859 vanilla

[@AlissaSss23]

😳😳😳😳😳

[@kingworm7168]

I was in the “ugly girls and lesbians” sorority at my college. Great group of ladies and very diverse. I went to a pretty small college so our groups were pretty small and all were different from one another

[@MeowQueen95]

SAME! Just not a great group of ladies...none of us speak to one another now. I wish I could go back and not join.

[@aspenbentley]

As someone who was in a sorority, I cannot emphasize enough how draining it was on my mental health. Yes, I met a lot of amazing friends who are still my friends today even though being in Greek life made me feel so bad. Even with the intensity and rejection of rush taken out of it, you still are constantly forced to do events like meetings, formals, philanthropy, fund raising, etc. Then you have pressure and judgement from your sisters and girls from other sororities. The positive is that it made me get a much stronger back bone because I was dealing with constant scrutiny from someone out there. I joined the Soroity my campus rated as “the kindest” hoping that was the case but even there everybody was hating on each other all the time. It’s like a constant war for no reason. Oh and I went to CU Boulder which isn’t even that into Greek life so I can’t imagine how much worse it would be at schools where being in Greek life means a lot to the people that go there.

[@HayleighPaige]

I wasn’t in Greek life but had a friend who had to keep faking sick to get out of meetings so she could study - so weird to me to have to fake sick to the point of having a chronic illness to get out your sorority meetings because you actually have class obligations?? Isn’t this a college sponsored thing? Don’t studies and grades matter? Hello?? 😂

[@holigatis7588]

How were your grades?? It's so fascinating to me that girls are supposed to have time for all this plus school work.

[@cece14444]

boulder is a city full of wealthy mean people. doesn’t surprise me as a resident. i’ve never met a city with ruder people.

[@tiffanypriore9220]

What’s crazy is men have a completely different experience. My husband loved his fraternity & still acts like it was his glory days 🙄

[@dierdriu]

@@holigatis7588 they keep files of tests, it's all good.

[@CAsaidit]

I hate so much of what goes into Frat/Sorority pledging/rush. I'll never forget when an acquaintance of mine came to my room at 5 am crying because of how horrible he felt. He was put in a basement with 11 other pledges and made to drink 6 handles of vodka over the course of one night. If someone puked they were out for the "game" and the remaining pledges still had to finish the 6 handles. My friend happened to be the "last one standing" and ended up drinking the most. We wanted to call the ambulance or take him to the nurse, but he refused and begged us not to. It was such an unnecessary event for everyone involved.

[@sydastark]

Yeah I think it’s mostly weird and gross. Making good little robots. Do what we say , because we say so,, has never and will never work for me.

[@bethewalt7385]

OMG that is literally deadly, your acquaintance is lucky he's alive, so ragingly irresponsible of the Greek yoked up men boys, what Neanderthals, flash forward, their son dies of alcohol poisoning doing the same thing...

[@bridgettepierce7144]

poeple need to learn to think for themselves and be confidant in who they are

[@Conscious.Consumer]

Some frat did this with water years back and end up killing a pledge and if i recall at least another was hospitalized.

[@musicrinda]

My room mate at USC rushed and was cross cut from Alpha Phi and tri Delt. I didn't like the Greek system, but that made me despise them for making her cry 😢

[@xXxAngelicKratosxXx]

I actually went to a college that NEVER had Greek life because they believed it was exclusive and classist, which directly contradicted the mission of the university. This is freaking BONKERS.

[@keisakura9014]

I like that. Sororities and frats have always seemed exclusive and classist to me, and this video didn’t disprove that.

[@Feverm00n]

Classist as all hell

[@UdoADHD]

For the record, it IS exclusive and classist. That’s the whole point of it. So good on your school!

[@whalium889]

What college?

[@StephanieGould]

Same here.

[@graceellison118]

Sitting in bed watching this while doing my community college homework, eating some queso chips, and hitting my wax pen. I literally cannot believe that I exist in the same world as these girls. Good for them but also I feel like they cannot be human! The outfits? The polish? The pep?

[@hellobirdie0617]

Make no mistake, you are the normal one. I went to community college, paid for by me and me alone.

[@margaretwallach7200]

@@hellobirdie0617 2

[@annavillarreal8584]

in a sorority and doing the same shit..

[@pachadela]

Same…I rushed in college LOL. I reached my limit on the second day when a senior (in the sorority) asked me if Brazil was an island…

[@angieeena4848]

​@pachadela being brazilian that just hurt my soul. 😭 i honestly don't know why people pay so much just to be in these cults. like i get u have more help or friends and experience, but isn't that literally the whole point of school itself? and they also have the people with the lowest gpas in there and if a poc comes in with a good GPA they don't allow it...doesn't make sense to me.

[@bradynconrsmom]

I was in a top tier sorority at a SEC school, and I can honestly tell you, it is a lifestyle. That is sincerely the only way I know to describe it. I ended up transferring at the end of my freshman year bc I was so over the sorority monopolizing every single aspect of my life, and when I transferred to another gigantic SEC school, I didn’t affiliate to that school’s chapter of my sorority bc I needed to live my life, not the life the sisterhood had mapped out for me. I was so much happier after that.

[@LivinLargewithLCruu]

its because greek life is very similar to how cults are run

[@heyybabyy2012]

The coaching aspect is absolutely bizarre to me. Don’t get me wrong, I LOVED being in a sorority in college but I signed up like 10 minutes before registration. The fact that Alabama rush stars have COACHES to help them prepare the entire summer before is CRAZY!!!

[@MadeleinePetti]

Most girls going through Bama rush don’t have coaches! Just rec letters

[@koinwonderland4309]

That’s what I thought too! My sister was a Zeta, but didn’t decide to rush until she had already moved on campus. Applying a year before and coaches is crazy to hear about!

[@earthchild21]

We had to practice for 2 weeks before at UGA too. It was intense…

[@ThatGirlJD]

@@MadeleinePetti Legacy and money will get you far in life.

[@doreengreen3287]

You need a coach if you don’t have connections (IE if you’re from Ohio). Not if you have your cousin who did it already and can vouch for you + have a letter for each house lined up as a junior(forget senior year) in high school. Yes this is a thing, my sister had to have them lined up that early for rush at a non-Alabama SEC school. She did add a few when she knew where she would be going to school, but that’s it.

[@keisakura9014]

I’ve always felt that sororities and fraternities were exclusive and classist. After seeing how much money they put into this, it didn’t disprove that theory…at least in this case. I know there must be other ones out there that are more inclusive and not as expensive. It still seems so loud and exhausting, though.

[@Willowtree82]

These are tomorrow's politicians and people who run the world not just in this college but across the country. Telling children to give up on college for the trades seems to me like you are sentencing them to a life of mediocrity.

[@Grayyy__]

As someone who was in one and my cousin also was in one at Bama it is a social club to meet and mix with people in your same social class & then date the frat guys who are in your same social class so that you don’t have to mix with people below you should you not want to.

[@gabriellegay4097]

@@Grayyy__ that’s sickening

[@Grayyy__]

@@gabriellegay4097 Most won’t admit that. I had tons of friends outside of it but could definitely see it for what it is. I think when you are use to a quality of life style your parents want you to end up w/ someone who would be able to take care of you or share that same standard you’re use to living. Where If you date outside that it’s really unknown. Also, to have friends that are on your same financial level makes it easy for whenever you want to do something you don’t have someone saying, “oh I can’t afford that” so it’s all a convenient little community you can stay in should you not be a person of more depth.

[@matthew.m.stevick]

It is dumb. I always saw it as buying friends. Being a part of a club with similar interest is significantly better (for me it was the Rugby club)

[@KanadaJin]

This feels like stepping into an alternate reality. Like uncanny valley.

[@Can-rd2ft]

It actually looked like her delay was due to her struggling to open the envelope. Can tell the moment the card is visible by the friends reaction next to her. Both their reactions are almost at same time

[@Nizhonibearcreek]

I said the samething they clearly show her struggling to open the envelope. Ppl just love creating misery for others .

[@jaclynroth1440]

That’s what I saw too

[@bronya7642]

I went to a large midwestern state university on the mid 90s, & the summer before college, all the girls I worked with were older sorority girls. They were super sweet to me, & convinced me to rush... after orientation, I walked home with another girl from my dorm, & convinced her that we didn't need to rush, because "we didn't need to buy our friends", which is how orientation made me feel. I dropped out, but I did get invited to a post rush dinner at one of the houses. It was so awkward, & definitely not for me. I made some amazing friends in college, that I'm still close to, despite the distance, & had a ton of fun, including going to a couple frat parties a week for the free beer when I was underage. At this point in my life, I think Panhellenic sororities & fraternities perpetuate the power of the entitled children of wealthy white people, & are bad for our society. It's much more valuable to get to know people who AREN'T just like you. You gain a much more realistic & compassionate point of view by getting to know people from different socio-economic & cultural backgrounds, & from different countries.

[@megsley]

I worked in the ER of the small rural hospital in my college town - seeing all of the horrific injuries pledges went thru was insane! one girl got so drunk she fell and basically curb stomped herself, knocked out all of her front teeth. one guy got frostbite on his hands from having to eat a gallon of ice cream with his hands. and one dude literally died from combining a bunch of booze with pills. I'm so glad I stayed GDI in college!

[@jadered9514]

In college a girl told me it was pretty common for girls to bust there front teeth due to tripping after a Greek party 😭 like she was crying about it happening to her & her big sister was like that happened to me & x y & z too 😭

[@Docypher]

Hazing is so insane and dangerous. I can’t believe it continues on, especially with all the stories you hear about people dying from alcohol poisoning or getting into accidents.

[@kaiceyy]

This sounds like my worst nightmare! It’s wild to me that people actually fight to be in these organizations when I couldn’t be paid to join. I vaguely remember one of the door videos from last year or something and it was the scariest, Stepford Wives vibe ever! Didn’t realize there was even more to the story or a whole side of TikTok I haven’t stumbled upon yet. Thanks for giving us the run down! I can only imagine what would happen to my fyp if I went looking this up myself lol.

[@Chamomile369]

Omg I know what video you’re talking about I think 😂 literally the most viscerally terrifying thing I’ve ever seen

[@StephanieGould]

Seriously. So crazy. And I was led down a rabbit hole of stores selling dresses, skirts, whole outfits, to be "Rush Week Ready" and it's terrifying.

[@junecleaver748]

Is is when a door opens and there is a huge group of girls screeching and waving? UGh. I felt embarrased just from watching it.

[@deanimegemas71]

Please keeping making videos like this! It’s light hearted drama that is fun and isn’t filled with awful themes! Plus, we have the same humor! I’ve been watching since 20k subs! Love you’

[@beautybox1502]

You have a bid lmao

[@deanimegemas71]

@@beautybox1502 that was a good one!

[@racheltrafford1]

Was thinking the same thing. Made me feel so happy

[@DivyMoon]

I was in one of these sororities in college. We prepped for weeks for rush week. All of our outfits were coordinated and planned. Every step of rush week was incredibly calculated and PRACTICED. I attribute excelling in all my sales based careers after the fact to being in a sorority 😂 We were literally selling memberships.

[@prtdiva]

OMG! Same! My bestie and I (both former sorority girls) always joke about this. We became really great at public speaking and we think it’s because we perfected our house tours 🤭😂

[@FirstNameLastName-js2ul]

UA literally puts the women’s dorms on suicide watch bid day. It’s insane. Last year I remember someone saying it’s common for girls who don’t get their desired bid at Alabama and they literally transferred to ole miss because their rush is a week later. BRUH

[@briannahjewel]

I’m a master’s student at University of Alabama, but my program is entirely online. Even when I was an undergrad and physically attended my university, I was never into Greek life whatsoever. I have zero idea about this saga, but the fact that you made a whole video about it has made me curious. What’s up UA? 😅 Pour the tea Kiki, I’m thirsty ☕️ 👀

[@bulbasaurevolved]

Briannah! I watch your videos and I often see you comment on other creators videos I also watch. I love knowing we have the same taste lol! You’re awesome 🤩

[@se2664]

Hey bri!! I hope you’re doing well in your dietitian program

[@Alina-ci3fb]

I was in a sorority in college, like totally obsessed, wore letters every day, was recruitment chair my sophomore year and president my junior/senior year. My chapter had 300+ girls and it was literally my entire life. With all that being said Bama rush scares the shit out of me I don’t think I could ever be in Greek life there.

[@RaquelAlbaBeauty]

Same here!! I loved my time in Greek life but omg Bama is a whole different world. It’s horrifying. Rush at my college was nothing like this

[@emilymahan9735]

Saaaaaame! I was also super involved in my sorority, letters every day, served as chapter president…but my alma mater is super small and Greek Life is even smaller. Averages about 10 - 20 girls each in the two sororities on campus. It was also SO CHEAP, basically free compared to the Bama fees. There’s no way I could’ve afforded to go Greek at a large school. I’m not sure I would’ve wanted to anyways because…..wow.

[@elisekate1754]

Pleaase can someone explain what a sorority is? It's just not a thing where I'm from so I have no idea what's going on

[@Alina-ci3fb]

@@elisekate1754 a sorority is a social club that you join, it is a way to make friends and find people that are similar to you. Each sorority has different charities that they fundraise for and put on different events throughout the year to raise money for those charities. Basically it’s a way to make friends but also give back to the community.

[@dillanconrad]

@@elisekate1754 the quickest way to get boned by the quarterback. Basically.

[@shonna4545]

Im 45 yrs old....recovering from a total hip replacement...its 5am....why am I so enthralled in this video?! 😆

[@softwaifu]

Watching her call it "Lululemon TIMES Alabama" may have actually broken something inside of me 🤣

[@missrosemua]

I thought my HBCU sororities were ridiculous but this is outrageous and so interesting. It’s like campus gossip but none of us are on campus 😂

[@rissarys25]

I just made the comment Black sororities don't do this, lol! We have our stuff don't get me wrong but, I've never seen this. I'm obsessed...

[@prtdiva]

@@rissarys25Black fraternities are more secretive so no one is supposed to know you’re even pledging. However, black fraternities and sororities also have to get jumped in so there’s that. No judgement, just another perspective. Also, I forgot. Y’all get hazed hazed. My friends from the fraternities couldn’t go to sleep for a week. Had to be on call 24/7. I knew girls in different sororities that had to do wild stuff like their big sister’s homework, hold their jackets at parties, one girl got a nipple burned off and her chapter got kicked off campus. The guys get paddled. I can go on (and this information is from the people in these black organizations). Black sororities/fraternities aren’t much better. They’re just more low key. The one good thing about the divine 9 is the cost. They aren’t as expensive as white sororities.

[@rissarys25]

@@prtdiva I am aware of the unfortunate incidents that have occurred over the decades with hazing both black frats and sororities....it's ridiculous and dumb. The worst thing we ever did was try to outlaw pledging in the light. It just gave you g people with brains that haven't fully developed the chance and power to think up dumb and dangerous shit just to prove ones dedication to the organization. I'm very aware of the differences, that's why I'm so interested in all of this. Truthfully for me it's the idea that one can de-pledge and then go on to become a member of another house! Or that membership isn't lifetime. Every time I hear "I was a Kappa Kappa Gamma" , it trips me out! But like you said, we're blood in, blood out frfr

[@julesrm4945]

Oh PLEASE HBO do a documentary for this. Oh that would make my whole life. I love the internet and how it’s exposing terrible people. I feel bad for people who got burned by these sorority sisters ANDDD the poor people who wanted a college education but got rejected for an alumni’s screeching banshee spawn. Enjoy real life and the job market in 4 years ladies…

[@doreengreen3287]

Dude, I know plenty of people who were in sororities who are now lawyers, dentists, doctors. The rules of other college social clubs are just as stupid, they just don’t get broadcast.

[@whalium889]

According to a NY times article, vice is doing a documentary about this

[@kaseylewis2859]

Real life, and the job market will come easier to these girls. It is all society based. One of the reasons people put up with the hell, and the parents agree to pay for them to do this, is because it is amazing networking. It all goes on their resume. These people are getting internships from alumni, they are being hired by alumni, and being recommended by alumni. I’m not saying it is fair, but that is a HUGE part of it. (Oh, and I’m not in one)

[@julesrm4945]

@@kaseylewis2859 I’m not saying sororities are bad. I think they’re good for all of the above you just mentioned. Many colleagues of mine are in AKA and are absolutely wonderful. None of those women I know, however, act like the ones In this video.

[@doreengreen3287]

@@kaseylewis2859 I know someone who had the smarts of a rock. Got into a highly paid VC job using his Dartmouth fraternity connections.

[@ellingtonfeint13]

I love it when Kiki finds niche rabbitholes for us.

[@theelletrain4775]

Girl, same. Exactly this! 😁

[@jalapeno1119]

This might be a good place to share my experience with rushing. I rushed at my small college (which only had 4 sororities to choose from). There was one in particular I REALLY wanted to be in. There was another that was okay, and I didn't like the other two very much. The one I wanted to get into, I tried my best to put out a good impression. I was nice and socialable to everyone and bonded with the president of the sorority herself (we were both in color gaurd and had actually completed against each other at one point!). I joked, made people laugh, got compliments, talked about how I was passionate about their philanthropy. thought for sure I would get in. Nope. I was dropped. Didn't even get a bid for my second choice. Most girls got 2-3 bids, and I only got one. I felt so rejected, and I have no idea what I even did wrong. And I was kind of on the fence of Greek life to begin with! I can't imagine how devestaring it is to be rejected by something you put your whole entire life into like that.

[@Jennifer-lz8nf]

I'm sorry that happened to you. They get the info on everyone before rush so they kind of know who their top people are already. It really may not have been anything you did or said. And depending on when you rushed, spring or fall the number they took on would have been different.

[@FransceneJK98]

It’s a horrible place to be. You’re better off finding friends around campus where people share individualism. Not uniform behavior and looks and no policing.

[@kholtz10]

I was in a sorority in a midwestern state school and now as a 30 year old woman, Bama Rush sounds like my personal hell. I can also speak from experience that even at a school with smaller Greek Life that the system itself is so incredibly problematic. I remember getting made fun of for the sorority I joined because it was the "fat ugly girls", even though it's the place where I felt most comfortable and at home.

[@surrayadawnaziz4484]

“Guys we cannot fight them, we just have to join the pageant queens” I almost spit out my water that was so funny

[@jessicafox3378]

I've moved to TN, but my family lives in Tuscaloosa and I'm SO glad this is being talked about. I hate the University of Alabama because it's nearly entirely people like this. Not just the sorority girls, even grown men and kids. I was followed and harassed as a 5 yr old for wearing a Tennessee Vols cheerleader outfit. On a gameday in high school, the back of our car was bashed in where we had a Vols sticker on it. Football season was miserable living there. They're hateful people.

[@madmax8949]

And they all love trump!

[@AngelGrl135]

10000% accurate. Nothing in life is that serious it’s gross.

[@ChristopherSadlowski]

I would never step foot in Alabama. Just seems like a bunch of lawless white people running around causing havoc. I'm perfectly content in my sleepy little New Jersey Shore home where the biggest local news is a kid falling off his bike.

[@stephanielodge5978]

Wow, that’s too far. I live in Louisiana close enough to Baton Rouge lsu to be a big deal but not that crazy.

[@madmax8949]

So true. I have a buddy that lives in B-Ham and is from Arkansas. At least half the state is eaten up by BAMA fans that are just plain ignorant. It's football, god, trump. At least one person had told him he wouldn't live in a state that had a sorry football team, referring to Arkansas at the time wasn't very good.

[@Unofkystudent]

Literally, as a grown woman who now teaches small children, it’s amazing how many kids grow up and do every single thing we teach them NOT to do when they’re young. I’m so glad I never wanted to be a part of this culture.

[@nafeesanaz]

Literally. Like “Don’t judge people by their looks” IS KINDERGARTEN LEVEL KNOWLEDGE. Yet these sororities often openly admit to being looks based

[@ollie-ollieoxenfree]

This is such nostalgia in a weird way - I was never in a sorority, but I went to a school in the South with a VERY active Greek life (FSU) and one of my college roommates was in one of these sororities. Poor girl slept through every alarm for her classes, I honestly don't know how she was still enrolled as a student. It's also funny how much emphasis is on the outfits - I have very vivid memories of watching the girls at the end of rush walking barefoot in the florida heat with their heels swung over their shoulders and their lashes coming off due to all the sweat. On a darker note, this was right before schools started cracking down on Greek life for hazing and underage drinking. One of my roommate's sisters was at a party with a fraternity where they all got drunk and someone got ahold of a shotgun and was playing around with it. She was shot blank, and unfortunately didn't make it. Imagine being a young adult, first time on your own, and your life is cut short in such a brutal way. As you mentioned in the video, the finances are run by students, all of this is run by students, and that's not always a safe environment when alcohol is involved as it inevitably is in college life. Not to mention my school had a well-known history of r*pe and SA, to the point that they had to put advertisements in the bus saying "93% of FSU men would say something if they saw their friend doing something non-consensual" ...or something like that. It just drew attention to the percentage of men that didn't, and it really made me worry for a lot of these girls.

[@Chamomile369]

Fraternities should be abolished nothing good comes from them

[@leena1880]

Omg I plan to attend FSU 😨

[@ollie-ollieoxenfree]

@@leena1880 it's a great school! I never got involved in Greek life - most of my time was spent at the Student Life Cinema tbh. I would recommend it just because of the variety of programs (we have our own acrobatic circus???), just stay wary of anything greek related or college football related. The rivalry between FSU and UF can get violent, and if anything the main concern is alcohol abuse. Make sure you always have a designated driver, and if you ever feel uncomfortable, leave the party. Your safety is more important than the pride of others.

[@OliviaCrews]

Omigosh I will never forget those terrible bus ads

[@daniellechicoine5119]

I was in a sorority at FSU.... Go Noles! I will say that Bama Rush reminded me so much of my rush experience.... I didn't realize until I became a sister how planned everything was and how everything was specifically manipulated to make sure you got the girls you wanted… Being a sister was harder for rush I think and it cost a lot, but I don't regret a single minute of it and I loved it. But I imagine if I was in a different sorority, I might've had a different experience! ❤️ in PKE

[@ElizabethTheUnicorn829]

Those houses sound classist like if you don't have money you're screwed

[@suzannecoe4347]

I remember going to some seminar when I was in high school (in Florida) where sorority alums were instructing us how to get in a sorority. I thought it was insulting. They told us how to dress and “sell ourselves”. Not only did it repulse me, but I could NEVER be part of any organization that was not based on merit whose “exclusivity” was solely based on turning down other people. So I went to an all- women college that had NO sororities. By the tone of my post, you can tell what I think of sororities. And I became a lawyer and fight against entitled people like this. It’s only “their world” if you let them trample over everyone else.

[@suzannecoe4347]

@Alex Korova I know that, to a degree, every one of us “sells themselves” daily. But being told specifically what to wear (“wear designer items that are colorful and memorable”), what to say and not say - all so people will want to be friends with me struck me as a poor start to the “real” friendships that the seminar was allegedly fomenting. The seminar, itself, was by “invite only” - just like the sororities themselves. I couldn’t IMAGINE myself turning away a girl who just wanted to feel included. Entry that is not based on merit (which most sororities do NOT judge “merit”- unless “merit” means looks and money) are just pretexts where their “exclusivity” is solely based on turning away people who want to belong. I just think it is cruel and shallow.

[@HayleighPaige]

Right!! I’ve learned to “sell myself” in my profession, but that’s completely different to this (at least in my profession.) I sell my expertise, my knowledge, my honesty, and intolerance for bullshit. I never would have made it in a sorority. I wear what I want, I have the tattoos that I want (very visible), and I aim to let my talents speak for me. And so far, it’s worked! It’s wild to think that a person could be turned away from a sorority just because of how they dress or brands they wear is WILD because what the hell does that say about their talents and qualities and perspectives?? And sororities are supposedly for community and friendship and philanthropy? Ew. Yikes. Also I’m Mexican, so I don’t think I would’ve made it anyway, but that’s a whole other point 😂

[@emmalee7861]

I remember over work week as a sorority member at Bama years ago (10+) prepping for rush week and we were required to get approval on our outfits that we chose for the week. We were lined up one by one and told in front of our peers if we were ok to proceed with the outfit or not. I remember hearing them tell some girls they had to wear spanks under their dresses . It was so uncomfortable. I dropped after a couple years in and I still think back to how much of a high control group they were and it’s baffling to see this is a coveted practice. I take some good things from my time in a sorority, but overall, I’d say it’s overhyped and my best years were out of the sorority.

[@allisongarcia2159]

I was in a scholarship program that started 2 months before freshmen year, and we spent the whole summer together so I came into college with a tight-knit group of 25 people. When school actually started, nearly every girl joined a sorority and I was left in the dust because they were so stressed and strapped for cash and spending every moment with their sororities. I never ever felt like I wanted to join because I didn’t think I would fit in and they seemed like bullies. I have no regrets about not joining; the appeal of rushing or being in a sorority just never clicked for me.

[@oceancitynutrition2125]

My cousin has VERY CLINICALLY BAD bipolar 1 disorder. She was stable for a very long time until she started rushing for sororities at University of Georgia where she went completely manic. She ended up not getting in any of the sororities and tried to jump off a building to commit suicide but was stopped by a police officer. She was expelled before classes even began and spend a year in and out of psych units trying to recover. Obviously she has her own issues but the pressure from the sorority culture destroyed her mental health.

[@Kiki-ix5bn]

You can clearly see how she is STRUGGLING to open that envelope! That’s why it took so long and she stared down for a bit, she wasn’t able to open it as fast as the others 🤣🤣 it’s just that

[@chaosbulldog]

I'm happy to call myself a sorority dropout. It was more pain the fun to be honest because there's so many rules to follow and you honestly have to spend so much money to maintain an image. And I distinctly remember the one year I was a part of "rush week" on my campus I was actually relegated to the kitchen with our house mother to "help with food and drink." I think it was because they didn't want the sight of an overweight girl to be portrayed to the incoming pledge class. I had more fun in college after I dropped Greek life.

[@poetrymafia27]

That’s really nasty, I’m so sorry you experienced that. You deserve to be a part of groups that are proud to have you there

[@ChristopherSadlowski]

I'm glad you realized you weren't having fun and dropped it. At least the last stretch of your time in college was better. Here in NJ we don't really do this kind of thing. Watching this video all I'm seeing is sorority life looks like a bunch of screaming, skinny, pretty white girls and it honestly looks like hell to me.

[@alicat95]

I relate to this SO much! When I did rush week while living in the house, they didn’t let me get to talk to other girls 1:1 and made me a “floater” that just had to walk around and say hi briefly. I was pissed. They all thought I was socially incompetent just because I have social anxiety and they never gave me a chance. I’m actually very talkative and fun once you get to know me 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@honeylis7]

Yeah we really need to talk about how they all look the fucking same. White, thin.

[@spacedoutsprout]

That’s so disgusting to do to another person, I am glad you got away from that.

[@hannahk9310]

Former sorority VP and Rho Chi / Gamma Chi (disaffiliated member for rush week) who went to a different school in the south! To explain the matching process there's a couple of things to know. Every night between the rounds both the sororities and the PNM's rank all of the houses, this data goes into a computer algorithm and matches for the next round based on these rankings. Its very much a mutual process and sororities spend hours on talking through each PNM's potential fit for their house talking through the conversations they had etc. Prior to rush starting sororities will research the PNM's to see who to pair them up with when they come through for different rounds based on common interests and home towns etc in order to make the conversations feel more natural and the PNM to feel like they 'fit in.' This gives the illusion to the PNM its pure coincidence that they talked to someone who also was a cheer captain in high school... Its also important to be aware that Panhellenic (the governing body of these sororities) oversees sororities that were founded for white women and this is why you may see at some institutions bama included may lack diversity. The NPAC (National Pan-Hellenic Council) is the overseeing body for traditionally black sororities and fraternities which were founded mostly at HBCU I waited until sophomore year to rush and was able to grow as a leader, friend and college student and despite being from the UK found a place in southern sorority life! I was fortunate my schools greek life system didn't have big houses so the dues (fees) were a lot less expensive so could easily afford to be a member $300 per semester. Many big schools still use manipulative tactics to recruit based on looks and privilege, and issues such as hazing are real, not all greek life is what is you on the movies and in bama rush Tok! Thanks so much for an amazing video Kiki :)

[@tula_lula2662]

I'm from the UK and fascinated that you are also from the UK and attended an American University. Did you enjoy your time there? Did you stay or just go for uni?

[@jaelamt]

It’s NPHC not NPAC ❤️

[@desiree7633]

@@tula_lula2662 same here

[@alexisp621]

My little sister is recruitment director for her sorority at a university in IL-her bedroom, and their sorority house in general look prison-like compared to these houses. So extravagant for such a microscopic part of a lifetime. Also the LululemonXAlabama clothing line is BLOWING MY MIND!!!

[@amanda_of_house_dracarys]

I rushed Junior year at Illinois state and it's not as hardcore as this.. similar but not as many rich hot people haha.

[@Bonserak23]

The clothing line is probably owned by old soriety Alums so all the hype is probably contracted in as a way to provide free marketing, increase sales to fund the couffers. Because if Stephanie is wearing it so do you.

[@claireschroeder8224]

“I don’t know that sisterhood day like are you a sister like do you watch James Charles I don’t know” straight up spit out my water

[@zubin8010]

LOL

[@herdyzinhaa]

God, i’m simply OBSESSED by this. Note that I’m brazilian, with a college degree already in hands, so it definetely has nothing to do with my life, but i can’t be nothing but simply obsesssed kkkkkkcrying

[@adriennehilll]

As someone that was in a sorority at a south-eastern school, this video was soooo funny and had so much truth to it!! Looking back I can’t believe I took it all so seriously. Oh and about the treasury $$ management thing for all their money!! - sororities do elect ‘treasurers’ but the actual huge sums of money are managed by the advisors who are alum members 30-50yrs old. The advisors usually have to approve all of the money delegation that treasurer (student) makes!! All sororities have advisors that attend most of the chapter meetings so they’re basically extended members that are just way older and not students anymore

[@Luna_tia]

I went to a college where almost 70% of the student population was Greek life affiliated (including my sister though she was in a very small Greek org.) My freshman roommate at college ended up being a *legacy* Zeta (her mom and grandma were also Zetas.) And from my perspective, they take their symbol of the crown 👑 as part of their identity...a little too far. There were several times I wanted to say "... yall know you aren't actually princesses... right?" 🤔 just my perspective. I'm sure there are great Zetas out there but they didn't leave the best impression on me. Overall, especially I with the larger orgs, it just felt like a way for the rich kids at school to join these expensive and elite group and perpetuates on campus classism...again just my opinion. All in all, not at all suprised at the cost associated with this kind of lifestyle.

[@Kayin2626]

School in Texas perhaps? I went to a private school my first year of college where about 60-70% of the student population was Greek life affiliated as well. After a year, I realized it was so not my vibe. I transferred to a huge state university where only 10% of the student population was involved in Greek life and graduated from there and had a much better experience and so much more fun.

[@megsley]

my college had the alpha (founding) chapter of zeta tau alpha - they got kicked off campus for hazing lmaoooo

[@megsley]

fun fact also about zta is that they call themselves a fraternity and not a sorority.

[@emilyalbert7910]

Kylie I just want you to know you're the only person on the planet that could get me to watch a 45 minute video on something I care nothing about 😆

[@no.6377]

A whole _coach_ ??? I love watching these types of videos because it's like looking into a completely different world that I genuinely can't even fathom sometimes. The priorities, the desires, the "challenges" are completely foreign to me and just fascinating.

[@kajkas2528]

I am from Europe, this is madness 😂😂😂 I cringe looking at it. I do not remember ever acting like this at this age😱

[@Sdytb]

As an european, this is surreal!! Last year when it became popular on tiktok I thought it was fake. TBH it seems so unnecessarly over the top and pretentious but definitely worthy of a reality show

[@kaisla_onerva]

SAME! I'm Finnish and so confused by this sorority stufff!

[@hobisdimples94]

I'm American and this is the weirdest bullshit I've ever seen lmao. I can't believe people actually put their time and effort into these glorified beauty and popularity contests....just sad tbh

[@mail4dodi]

I have THE BEST story from when I rushed!! It was in Colorado, and first round was open house which consisted of a quick house tour while you talk to a member or two. It was crowded, so I was handed a scrapbook to look at while we waited. I shit you not, I open this scrapbook and it is filled with pictures of MY BROTHER, who was a couple years ahead of me. I looked up and was like, “is this a joke?” The girl talking to me was like, “what do you mean?” So I said, “whose book is this?” The girl told me whose book it was and asked why. “Because these are all pictures of my brother. Here he is running down the street. Here he is walking down some stairs, here he is in the library - is (name) here? Can I talk to her?” The member goes, “oh, ok. Umm, hang on.” She left me, I see her go up to this one girl, whisper in her ear, and then they both run off. I didn’t get a house tour, I didn’t get to talk to anyone else - nothing. And then this house fucking DROPPED ME. Those stalking bitches. 😂😂

[@lawsome2068]

That is seriously creepy, did you tell your brother about it?

[@adan9925]

I am sorry but that is hilarious, oh I wish your brother dated who ever that was and have like a creepy library of scrap books made about him. 🤣🤣 Again, sorry.

[@israa.6375]

in an alternate reality, you don’t tell them you’re related to him and you slowly infiltrate this place, confused as fuck and wanting to get to the bottom of this. like your story sounds like the start of a YA book omg..

[@AlissaSss23]

WTF????

[@tiffanygodfrey8674]

Would it be out of line to ask to see a picture of your brother? Lmao

[@leslieatthevampiremansion]

I’ve never heard of this in my life and it is seriously hilarious as a 35 year old with actual life issues to worry about 😂 I love that your covering this lol

[@rosadyke6349]

Oh that’s amazing!! I was just thinking the same 😮 in the name of everything- what the actual @&£k

[@sassagrass7095]

@@rosadyke6349 seriously like people have real world problems and these people spend tens of thousands to live in a bubble....🤦‍♀️

[@rosadyke6349]

@@sassagrass7095 you said it !!!!!!!

[@HeatherwithanH]

Literally same

[@marinaabbate3586]

My brain can't comprehend but I find it so fascinating. Philanthropy and I were not friends when I was a teen. I went to a 4 year college but sororities were not a thing. I wore a lot of sweatpants. This all sound purely exhausting. On a side note, I am glad I graduated college in 2011 and am not a college student now. Seeing everyone making tik toks all around me would have driven me nuts. That is all. Great video!

[@alexaproffitt4640]

I was in a sorority at Bama in the 90s…it was pretty nuts back then, but I see things have gotten absolutely CRAZZYYY. Loved this video- you are hilarious and adorable! :)

[@lifeisbutadreamsodreamon]

As a non American i finding this whole thing wierd and fascinating. Completely a different world out there. This hasnt encouraged me to watch anything either... this video summary has been enough for me 😅😅😅

[@emilygardner]

I toured bama for college, and the student guide was in heels and red lipstick on the tour bus... I quickly decided they weren't going to be my people, and I went to Auburn where I met my husband!

[@KitKat2742]

War Eagle, I just graduated in 2020 💙🧡 So many girls I graduated high school with rushed at bama and ended up in sororities, and I wasn’t surprised when I realized it was almost all the girls I couldn’t stand 🤣

[@emilygardner]

@@KitKat2742 war eagle! I was class of 2017. Such a great 4 years

[@georgiariordan6109]

Is sorority culture still strong at auburn? I have a friend who goes there and is in a sorority. Is bama just a whole different level.

[@arthurgearheard4701]

@@georgiariordan6109 That's what I was wondering!

[@kiarasoldano7246]

@@georgiariordan6109 bama is a whole different level - from an ex bama sorority girl. i wasn’t from a wealthy family and not everyone i met was either. there are definitely some that are loaded but its a decent mix

[@jennifer2185]

My friend joined a sorority for 1 year in WI and hated it. She lived in the sorority house - there were so many rules, curfews, mandatory meetings, mandatory "hangouts" with the other girls and so much more that I don't remember anymore. Getting in wasn't as serious as Bama but it's all just a whole different world that I'm glad I was never apart of lol

[@anniea683]

That is exactly why I avoided Greek life. Who wants to spend the first time you have any freedom after leaving your parents home having other people give you rules, tell you who you have to hang out with, AND you have to pay them for it??? Lol no thank you!

[@Shirumoon]

@@anniea683 This might be far fetched but maybe that's the appeal of it? Those girls look and act like grown women but many of them are probably still kind of immature and childish and really need structure as some sort of security blanket.

[@alicat95]

Yep it’s true, there are SO many rules. If you were caught with a boy in your room (even if it’s your bf), caught with alcohol anywhere on property, posting pictures online they deem “inappropriate”, or break any other rules you can get scolded or fined. I had so much more fun after I left

[@se2664]

Where in Wisconsin? Madison ?

[@midwestbadger2503]

@@se2664 probably. Sounds about right. Sororities in Madison are intense

[@kelsxoBaBii]

I was in a sorority myself and have always been so fascinated by bama’s rush process. My younger sister ended up in a sorority at bama and their rush process was so much more serious and insane compared to mine, even though I went to a large college in the south as well. We both agreed (after graduating) that sororities really aren’t worth the $ and time you end up putting into them… I made a few great friends and overall enjoyed most of the events/parties, but other than that there’s just a lot of rules you have to follow, meetings to go to, and fakeness you have to deal with. Oh and I absolutely hated going through rush as a member. One thing that’s not really spoken about is the whole ‘old row’ vs ‘new row’ sororities at alabama, so that’s another rabbit hole you could go down if you wanted to. Thanks for a great video!

[@UdoADHD]

I wish you could make a video about this!

[@Jennifer-lz8nf]

Dang girl, I just looked this up. Super interesting. I agree...especially when you make the executive board. Managing all of those girls was great experience but tough.

[@susanalfieri4487]

In my experience, this is every big state school in the South. I just opted out. Who needs that kind of drama? But I had roomates & friends who rushed. In fairness though, I attended college in pre-internet times. I can't even imagine the pressure now in the Tik-Tok/Instagram age. It must be crazy. CRAZY!

[@Lia_Lenny5]

"do you watch James Charles" at 21:52 got me ROLLING

[@MMarch831]

I’ll try to simplify this.. as the week goes on you write down a max # of certain houses in order of preference, it gets smaller as the week progresses. With each day day/round that passes someone from your choices has to also choose you in order to go back to that house to continue rush. So by pref day she had to narrow it down to 2-3. If all 3 want you, your top choice gets you. If your top choice doesn’t but your 3rd does.. that’s who gives you a bid. As long as there is a match up between your choices and the houses’ you continue. If not, you get cut/dropped the first time there isn’t a match. Does that make sense? lol

[@redhood686]

Yes thank you for this

[@xmilkshakesx]

All I ever cared about in college was finding time to study between playing video games, my next meal, and my next sleep (I also went to Community College). This whole situation seems relentless and exhausting. As a INFP personally type I couldn’t imagine being in a big sorority.

[@floatingsmiley]

This is so weird. I never have heard of this being like a reality show for college girls rushing sororities lmao. Anyways, I just need to say, sororities were never appealing to me because if not everyone can be a part of it, it’s exclusive and not inclusive and costs as much as it does (I have a lot of friends who have been in a sorority and my bf was in a fraternity so I know all about their dues), then I don’t want a part of it. That girl reminds me of the blonde princess from Princess and the Frog. 🤣 I mean, she seems sweet 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@spanglelime]

MTV made a Sorority Life reality show, 2 seasons. The sororities that participated were locals (not national sororities that are part of the National Panhellenic Conference, which is the big governing body for the national fraternities and sororities with chapters all over the country at different colleges and universities). If you can find episodes, it’s a fun watch and a total product of its time, which was very early 2000s.

[@StephanieGould]

@@spanglelime The episodes are on KZbin. I was in college when Sorority Life was on and it seems so tame compared to what goes on now that things like Tik Tok and Instagram exist. I'm so glad social media didn't exist when I was in college, at least it was in it's very very early stages if at all. I hated sororities back then and 20 years later, it's still horrible.

[@lindseymuse1591]

As a sorority alumni it was so interesting seeing you explain this from an outsider explaining 💕

[@skyler7372]

“You guys know I love to live in the past” 🤣🤣🤣 real

[@thxwanderer]

So I went to UGA (my god why...) And sorority life is also MASSIVE here. I was in Greek life, not a sorority, but I witnessed so many shenanigans from those in Greek life that made my skin crawl. And Greek Row made me feel absolutely uncomfortable and out of my body. It very much gave multiple plantation houses all on one street lmfao

[@shinyumbreon696]

I was a student bus driver at UGA! I remember taking a charter for bid day, where they went from the stadium to the houses, and the amount of money that went into it was insane. They did the whole door-opening thing and everything. They also screamed the whole time on the bus? I don't mind people being excited, but my ears rang for the rest of the day. That was years ago and I can still recite the chant.

[@Anonyname313]

My sister did Greek life at UGA. Seeing her go through that whole life made me content with going to KSU and avoiding Greek life like the plague 😂

[@thxwanderer]

@@shinyumbreon696 I specifically remember one night I was heading home from down town and a bunch of KD (pretty sure) girls who were newly indoctrinated (and most likely freshman) drunkenly got on the bus. It was one of the last running ones around midnight-1am and they were screaming their heads off the entire time. I felt so bad I apologized to the bus driver on my way off because it was just so overdone and rude as hell.

[@thxwanderer]

@@hereforthememes It always made my skin absolutely crawl whenever I had to pass by and then some of the frat houses were also downtown.

[@thxwanderer]

@@Anonyname313 Oof. I'm so sorry to your sister 😂 and I'm glad you went to KSU. UGA sucked-

[@pnwgirl4]

As a 25 year old married woman going to online school I live for this stuff lmao I never had the college experience but I can live vicariously through these girls 😅

[@finnegan1657]

I must be too lazy to be in a sorority. Just watching what these girls do to get in was exhausting. Not to mention the money spent 😱

[@CheesePoutine]

In Canada we don't have frats and soroities, so it's absolutely insane to me and I cannot get enough of watching rushes. I do question how these women get their schoolwork done (if they do). I was (obvi) not in a sorority and could barely hold on in college/uni ... the workload was so crazy, I barely had time to sleep and eat let alone rush or be part of sorority activities!

[@instructionsunclear7953]

Love ur username lol

[@CheesePoutine]

@@instructionsunclear7953 thank you ❤

[@DS-qw1tp]

I thought Western Uni did have a sorority when I was there. Can’t verify

[@CheesePoutine]

@@DS-qw1tp they might! some schools in canada do frats/sorieties but it's not the same. it's nowhere near the same calibre and they don't look the same. most schools don't have any official ones (attached to the school itself) but people moving into houses and calling them frats. I should have been more specific in my first comment, sorry!

[@CheesePoutine]

@@DS-qw1tp we definitely dont have rushes and nothing as intense as bama (id die LOL)

[@aivlysplath]

“So bananas that Gwen Stefani couldn’t even spell it” lmaooo. Love it. Stealing it.

[@leahsims5607]

Ok so I’m a black girl who was in a Bama sorority who graduated this past May! I honestly loved all 4 years of my sorority experience at Alabama, but it’s interesting to see people be so intrigued and curious about the recruitment process since to most of us it’s just the norm lol

[@sasha3817]

Ahhh! As someone born and raised in Alabama and also having attended UA for undergrad and graduate school, it’s so crazy this is finally getting attention. It’s ALWAYS been this crazy y’all lol. Parents love pushing their kids into it too! If you guys think it’s crazy to see online.. it’s even crazier in person 😂🥴

[@dedoubecool]

I'm from France, never been to the US and I've never really understood what fraternities/sororities even are but I still watched this whole thing. That's how much I enjoy listening to Kiki talk :)

[@donalpaccio4233]

Same!

[@gansz_lol]

it's like..... visiting classes and finishing as soon as possible isn't the main focus. I'm studying and need another year to finally finish my degree but i wouldn't have time for getting a tan, waxing my legs, do my makeup every day just to be in a toxic environment

[@orsikocs]

Same, grew up in Europe where this is definitely not a thing lol. Just love to see her talk abt stuff she enjoys haha

[@pinklotus2443]

I think that's why I enjoyed this so much, it's fascinating! Here in Australia we don't have them either

[@Mary1337]

Lmao same (Sweden), "when will i ever have use of this info" haha. But it is interesting, otherwise I wouldn't watch to the end :D

[@Osage80]

Ok, so my daughter was in a huge sorority while she was in college. She always complained about how expensive it was. And she really kept those secrets! Even now, years after she graduated college, she won’t teach me the handshake. lol 😂 They take that stuff seriously!

[@bagel_bitez1]

I'm proud that I'm someone who was born and raised in Alabama, but managed to avoid the state college + sorority pipeline lol. I went to an arts university out of state with zero Greek life. This has always fascinated me, but now Gen Z is taking it to a whole other horrifying level 🤣

[@PrincessPowerUp]

Same, but im black so not same. Thanks for sharing

[@angiefan2481]

I was in a sorority. The recruitment training they did is very similar to the recruitment tactics taught on MLM zoom trainings. There's not the shady MLM pyramid scheme thing obviously, but it's not hard to see why MLMs are so attractive to former sorority members

[@UdoADHD]

But don’t y’all have arbitrary sometimes unfair rules, lots of secrecy, and mind games/politics?

[@angiefan2481]

@@UdoADHD sort of, but probably because greek life isn't that big of a deal at my school. I found the rules annoying, especially around dress codes for events and stuff (ie must wear a white dress for day 2 of x ceremony) , but they weren't unreasonable. I left bc I couldn't afford spending the time to participate. There was no shunning or awkwardness after I left either.

[@justmaddy3388]

I was apart of greek like my first 2 years in college. Honestly, in the sorority I was apart of, the girls were super genuine (which is why I joined) but I ended up hating it because they literally force you to attend socials and events even if you don’t want to go and then end up making you pay fines for not attending on top of the money you’re already paying to be in the sorority… I felt very icky being apart of greek life so I got out of it and honestly can’t believe I stayed in it as long as I did 😬 it’s not for everyone… and yes, to answer your question about pref. day, your top sorority has to put you as well, and if you you both choose each other then you get a bid from them👍🏻

[@avataranime101]

Sounds a lot like my experience.

[@christinaleclerc6080]

There’s a reason why fines are issued and functions mandatory. As a student who held several leadership positions including Recruitment Chair and as a Chapter Adviser the entire system feels very broken to me!

[@CHloE748]

It sounds like a terrible system if both parties can only pick 1 top pick.. What if you really liked two houses but only your second pick chose you as their first pick? There are obviously only so many spots so it seems like there are much greater chances for there to be empty beds and girls with no bids who would love to have one of the empty spots on her second favorite house.. that means many girls wasted money to audition and the sorority girls having to pay fees for the empty rooms.. sounds ridiculous

[@sasamafrass]

@@CHloE748 I was thinking the same thing, it's like they are creating the problem to make girls pay more on purpose. It seems completely ridiculous to me that you can't just join whatever organization you want since you are paying to be there, blows my mind.

[@NatalieMarie917]

@@CHloE748 the sorority doesn’t actually do a ranking in that same way. They are just limited in how many people they can offer bids to. If you, the PNM, didn’t make the cut (e.g., you weren’t in their top 60), then you won’t receive a bid from them, but if your second choice offered you a bid (you were in their top 60), you’ll end up in their house. If they both offered you a bid, you go to your #1 choice.

[@Razhali]

I was in pageants growing up and won lots of awards. Older I got, the more I realized that the more money you give to the pageant, the more youll get noticed and the more fake awards you'll get. I was sponsored in my elementary years but not in my middle school or high school years so the completion's just got worse and worse. I remember telling my mom I hated them and didnt want to do them anymore. My mom pushed me to do one last one since I was aging out anyway (I was 13 or 15 at the time.) My last one sucked. I was absolutely humiliated on stage. I had clothes sponsors but no one paid the tuition so they let me go on with my sponsored outfits (which I was supposed to return) but when I put on my hand-me-down Kimono, they told me I couldnt go back on stage. I even had my friend of 10 years come. I was so embarrassing. I even was supposed to win a prize since all the others had voted for me but they wouldnt give it to me due to being poor. Another one I had gone to around my teen years was also sponsored clothes only and the girls who were rich got way more trophies then the ones who were not. I. Hate. Pageants. I havent been in on this Bama rush trend cause apparently I live under a rock, thank goodness. From this video, sororities seem like a massive cult. The thrive on unsuspecting individuals who have just become legal adults. Plus, those sorority houses are big enough to be schools, hospitals, charities, or even homeless shelters yet its shelter for rich kids instead. 32:56 Its definitely a cult. These kids or their parents are paying whoever actually owns thoses house rent and helping those owners keep those mansions as well as putting tons of extra money into the owners pocket. Its like a daycare for very rich immature adults. Supposedly each Bama sorority has up to 70 or more members and supposedly Bama has 24 sororities. Thats $661,500 per year per sorority house. How much do you think goes into the actual school? I actually feel like the school make more profit on the non-live in students because $9,445.00 is around 9 months of average monthly rent. As for non-live in students are not paying for rent in a dorm or sorority house so want his their $4,000.00-$5,000.00 a year going towards? It's almost like the sororities get free education as long as they can pay their annual rent in Bama Capa house and the non-live in's help pay for the sororities missing tuition costs. I went to this horrible HORRIBLE nanny college in 2010 and dropped out due to medical reason but still had to pay the whole tuition, which was like $6,000.00 for 1 year (it was like a 9 month course and I left after 3 months.) The first thing I was told by students was that the teachers (and founders) had renovated their houses the prior year and were renovating their houses again. The books were outdated, the teachers picked favorites, and the teachers couldnt even teach without looking at the books we were learning from. Just horrible! Theyd take the class out to eat as if it was to make us feel like we were getting our money worth buuut it was OUR money they were treating us with in the first place. All we were doing was making these 'teachers' rich. The school was co-founded by 2 woman who were teachers and there was another lady who was also a teacher (the better of the 3 since she was actually paid as a teacher and actually knew houw to teach. The other 2 co-founder teachers were just taking all the tuition money and blowing it on their houses every year.)

[@alisonkitchin7581]

I went through recruitment at a small northern school in 2000. It is a whole different world at Alabama. Their new member classes are bigger than my whole chapter! (And our cost for recruitment (rush) was $10… no recs… no big flashy outfits. We also didn’t have the mansions… )

[@thesammielee]

This is hilarious because I auditioned and got into 2 A Cappella groups (1st one was Co-ed and 2nd one was all female) and I was still able to party, get into all the good parties, and be just as popular as the people in Greek life at my college without paying a whole bunch of money. Plus I got to perform and sing! The only thing I paid was 5 bucks for a group t-shirt. Definitely happy I went for music groups during my college experience 🥰 (I miss it)

[@claudiabernardi2695]

This is just unbelievable… Imagine using this amount of time, money and commitment for something useful!

[@lizzmae4560]

I was in a sorority at a CA state school and it was not this insane. We had a 3 day rush (sisterhood day, philanthropy day, and pref day). No letters of rec needed. It was fun and chill. This looks scary and like if you don’t have money/followers they won’t even consider you.

[@se2664]

Exactly it’s nothing but a popularity contest

[@jakzine540]

@@se2664 With finance-hunting tossed on in; make no mistake, these groups are involved in moving and shaking.

[@averyc.8447]

Yeah that's how it is at my school too, I would NEVER rush at a big state school like Bama. Wayyy too much pressure, money, and time! No one talks about how much time these girls dedicate to their sorority.

[@kristenclark82]

Obviously I’m a year late to this party but you are cracking me up in this! Even more than usual. I appreciate you. 😊

[@StephanieGould]

This is exactly why I didn't go to a certain college that was one of my top choices. An insane amount of people were in the Greek system and I was like, "Nope." I also went to an All-Girls High school and I didn't need 4 more years of pettiness. I hate the Greek system so much.

[@Sportsgirl128]

My aunt was a florist near the University of Arkansas and told me about the alumni gifts. They would send super extravagant floral arrangements.

[@_carolinecook_]

There’s a computer program that uses an algorithm to place you in your first or second option house based off how you and the sorority rank each other. Same one that “drops” you or the sorority after each day based off the score sheet you and the sorority fill out for each other. ETA: the reason someone might end up with a house on their schedule that they already dropped is because that house ranked that person extremely high.

[@hailyjohnson407]

Yeah, I wish I would have known prior to recruitment that your house is basically picked for you. And most sorority members don't know this, and that's why bid promising happens. The girls are going to vote for you super high and think that they can guarantee you a bid but they can't.

[@ThatGirlJD]

How does that work with Legacy rushes?

[@ThatGirlJD]

@@hailyjohnson407 In a bid to be fair it's sad they take so much of the human element out of the process.

[@alicat6085]

Former ADPi here I got you: So after preference night, we as a chapter meet and come up with the names of girls that we want (those would be #1), and then we would have backups (#2). So in a perfect world, all of our #1's would put us as #1, but that doesn't happen. So if one of our #1's decide to rank another house above us and that house puts them as #1, then someone in the #2 slot who put us as 1 will move up to #1. I hope that helps!

[@Piper.King3]

Not even halfway into your video and you are HILARIOUS! Omg I'm so glad I found your channel

[@anym7849]

“You watch James Charles” 😭😭😭

[@TheArbitraryObserver]

That girl from Ohio said her dress was from Henri's Cloud Nine. That was THE place to get your prom and dance dresses when I was in high school in Ohio and very expensive. My parents told me that whatever I put toward my prom dress they would triple....and I STILL hardly found any there that were in my "budget". 🤣

[@Sarahxxxxxxx]

“Are you a sister? Do you watch James Charles?” 😂😂😂