Killer Move - the Wigan Grobbit

View complete film online at www.riverhorse.... - Wigan's very own move! A brutal catch as catch can submission hold meant to immobilise opponents. Clip from the documentary "Catch: the hold not taken". DVD available for purchase - www.riverhorse....

[@pyeriotsquad]

He's almost in it! He's mentioned in the original 90 minute version, and also briefly caught on camera in the background.

[@Sifuben]

@judopathoftruth This would be Judo which is A) much younger than catch wrestling and B) heavily influenced by catch wrestling in it's early development (many of the first and second generation Judo guys were also catch wrestlers)

[@riverhorsetv]

Hello Elementa2006 - the documentary is available/ there's more information on the production company's website 3w(dot)riverhorse(dot)tv

[@antowalk]

Was training in wigan yesterday and found out that Alan Latham had passed Couple years ago, Rileys Boys were the Best and still are the best. End of story

[@AmericanCombatAssoc]

Guillotine is a choke, Grovit or frontfacelock is a neck crank. Two different moves applied from the same position.

[@pyeriotsquad]

He said it was a Wigan move - not invented in the last 50 years - so grip yourself. There have been 1000 mines in and around Wigan over the last 400 years - sure, the Welsh were in the mines, but they are more famous for Rugby and choirs than hardcore shooting. Recognise and Realise - this is some Lancashire ninja artform. I have the DVD and I recommend it to anyone who needs an education in the evolution of Catch and pro wrestling.

[@thetenia]

it isn't a headlock. It is however a front facelock, which has pretty much been around since socrates.

[@runningsuperska]

A black belt in philosophy

[@Suriel1981]

Well said. Sadly there's always going to be some Americans who have a hard job dealing with the fact that Britain was so influential to professional wrestling.

[@pats1972]

jack dempsey was his ring name, his real name was tommy moore, you couldn't meet a nicer fella he used to come down to the snake pit with ernie riley

[@pyeriotsquad]

Many of the moves were developed around that region - that's why it was called 'Lancashire Catch as Catch Can'. Sure, it shows miners in the 1920s, believe it or not, there isn't much footage of the miners from the 18th century! The history of catch wrestling goes hand in hand with towns like Wigan. And you may call it a head lock, but round these parts it's either known as a neck crank, or 'The Wigan Grobbit'. Maybe you can tell me where the move originated then, if it wasn't from Wigan.

[@antowalk]

Many of us are not educated enough on catch us can wrestling. Glad iv found out about it as it can be blended with my bjj to make me a better grappler.

[@Wavemaninawe]

Small world. I learned the same move from eskrima and Indonesian silat. Good techniques are often somewhat universal. There are only so many ways to skin a cat.

[@pyeriotsquad]

Wow, you really should've concentrated more in school, that way you could've written something legible,

[@pyeriotsquad]

just to let you know, Wigan is a town, not a person. Hope that clears up the confusion.

[@Gazzjuk]

ive just found out im distantly related to Jack Dempsey is he in this documentary?

[@Elementa2006]

I like to see that documentary

[@jblive1985]

he was a boxer not a wrestler

[@antowalk]

@Elementa2006 Same here i wanna see it

[@whoisbrucewayne]

This is a front facelock(neck crank). It differs from the guillotine because it hurts alot more and you will get an instant tap.