Killing Floor 2 | Perk Tier List 2022

[@richardgibson2158]

They need to give support a passive that gives them a percentage of what players gain from them. That way they get some economy assist for helping players with ammo and armor.

[@JackOfHarts96]

I just have to correct you by the way. The HRG Stunner deals SMG damage despite shooting slugs. Which is why it's a very weak weapon against FPs and QPs.

[@ReapeeRon]

Has it always been that way?

[@JackOfHarts96]

@@ReapeeRon Yeah. It disappointed me because I was hoping to use it against Fleshpounds.

[@bentrieschmann]

I don't like the Stunner.

[@TylerrTazer]

As a firebug main, I think people hate firebug due to the chaos they CAN cause. Firebugs with little discipline, ie firepanicing 20 scrakes and all the fleshpounds are less than ideal. But some of these new weapons like the flare gun, a few well placed headshots make FP/QP and Scrakes seem really trivial

[@ReapeeRon]

Totally agree.

[@ItzLoona]

I tend to play solo HOE and whenever I have to rank up Firebug I always can't help but groan. I find the class very boring and underpowered in solo, and as a Demolitionist main I really know what DPS actually is. As always, I find the first few waves easier with Firebug, but after about wave 4 or so, it becomes more of a chore.

[@TylerrTazer]

@@ItzLoona I think at some level gratuitous damage falls off in terms of "real dps" It's really irrelevant. I think the point of firebugs isn't to do everything like the demo can and I believe thats more of a design flaw with demo than it is with firebug. Perks that can do everything inherently are better than perks that aren't designed to do everything, I don't think that makes them underpowered I find that makes the perks that do and can handle really anything thrown at them with relative ease are overperforming in roles they probably shouldn't be.

[@ItzLoona]

@@TylerrTazer I don't think it's the class and moreso the weapons. The Kaboomstick can handle literally everything in the game with negative difficulty, the Seeker Six is absolutely insane on longer range maps and things like the M16 and Seal Squeal can do everything in-between. On HOE the only thing I really consider a challenge is starting out on solo, the Grenade Pistol is decent, yeah, but when you're facing down at least 40 Zeds on wave 1 with a Pistol and single shot medium reload launcher whilst being one of the squishiest classes in the entire game is daunting for anyone who's less than experienced. Firebug just doesn't perform imo, I've found Commando and Swat to be all around better in HOE Solo than Firebug, which is saying something.

[@thewulf777]

@@ItzLoona the only thing I can say as a new player, the only time i've done near my firebug damage was with locust launcher. Though, im also arse at aiming so higher skill perks always severely underperform with me. rn highest damage in a game (level 17 firebug, level 11 surv) is 162k using Flamethrower and Scorcher, 127k with just locust (but worthless against FP and bosses)

[@FurryEskimo]

I’ve been replaying all the classes and I was really surprised but I liked commando and swat more than I remembered. I think I used to spam their weapons, but when I slowed down I found that I had a lot of control and could get non-stop headshots.

[@manuelhernandez2017]

Same here with commando, it's nice, wish the weapons were a little bit cheaper to build quicker

[@shad74444]

Same, I realized how strong is being able to crouch and aim without any kind of movement penalty and the fire rate of Swat

[@ULTRA_CHEMICAL]

HRG incision on medic while having acidic rounds is insanely powerful

[@firstnamesurname2482]

Dude, Acidic Round is possibly the worst thing in the game, right next to Firestorm.

[@robjsmiles]

Haven't tested the skill much. The medic page claims the poison is 1.3x weapon damage per second for 5 seconds, which sounds like 6 and a half free shots over a slow period, but larger zeds tend to have resistance. People say it also works as cc for the 'scared' state it can put lesser enemies in This is obviously competing with a strong damage buff to others in multiplayer from weapons that can quickly throw out healing, it depends how you like to play

[@JackOfHarts96]

One Commando is fantastic. Any more than one isn't needed.

[@ReapeeRon]

I would agree with that Jack. Having more then one is kind of overkill for the mission most of the time.

[@vestrocity9561]

@@ReapeeRon Having more than one commando on a team is usually detrimental, in fact. The number of extensions is always capped at 6, regardless of how many commandos are on the team, so having multiple commandos competing for extensions will make zed time last shorter than it could with just one(as "zed time extension" just resets zed time, rather than actually making it longer).

[@nickrod32]

perfect timing Ron I just got 25 in all perks ! couldn't have come at a better time can't believe ive been playing KF and watching your content for a year now crazy time flies

[@ReapeeRon]

Thanks Nick!

[@synchronium24]

How much time do you have in the game, Nick? I'm on track to get level 25 across all perks in the pathetically slow time of 500 hours.

[@nickrod32]

@@synchronium24 Seems about right man Ive got 450 or so hours sunk into the game but the thing is I had a blast getting to that point which generally in life the grind is always the best part I likely will not play the game as much now that I'm maxed but it's an accomplishment ! wish you luck

[@roquemacias4616]

@@nickrod32 did you reach prestiege 5 on all perks?? I only have prestiege 5 on gunslinger and sharpshooter, and almost 25 on the rest. Some of them take way too long to upgrade, I'd never have the guts to go prestiege 5 lvl 25 for all of them hah!

[@nickrod32]

@@roquemacias4616 Yeah no way I don't see the point in prestiging i just like the passive perk bonuses

[@mcarpen89]

I think it's good that medic is overpowered. It can be hard to get people to play healer in a game like KF2 where cleaning up trash enemies or taking down large enemies is so fun and satisfying, so I think the strength of medic helps counterbalance that tendency.

[@ReapeeRon]

Kind of but it is really crazy how strong Medic can be.

[@Trivity_]

Survivalist with blast brawlers is one of my favorite things to do. Increased melee damage aswell as fast reload. You just shred EVERYTHING. It's funny how it's a support weapon but is a "melee" survivalists wet dream

[@ReapeeRon]

It is a lot better with Survivalist then Support!

[@LeftysRage]

Blast brawlers? Explain

[@Trivity_]

@@LeftysRage It counts as a melee weapon and a support weapon, so it gets benefits from multiple perks in survivalist. Faster reload, more damage, faster attack speed. Hits especially hard if you hit with both the punch and the shot.

[@quintinnowak-wolff7658]

I always liked survivalist, mainly with the latest "buff" if you can call it that, especially with make things go boom and medic training, as it'll make hans, patriarch and the e.d.a.r bombers much easier to handle

[@ReapeeRon]

Yeah that does help!

[@ShouVertica]

I feel like the KF team needs to make KF3 by now and learn from 2. KF1 still remains one of my favorites.

[@ReapeeRon]

That would be nice!

[@user-uq9se1nx9q]

No! Just because it wont run on my machine(

[@isaachunt6694]

Wish fulfilled

[@tysongallien8842]

I have always enjoyed using a level 25 Firebug with a fully upgraded Thermite Bore. In a team game or especially Endless in a choke point you can absolutely dominate!

[@ReapeeRon]

That is really strong.

[@manuelhernandez2017]

The explosive crossbow, Single M1911, should be sharpshooter weapons, and the perk needs something else, just a small passive or active given where all the other classes are at.

[@angelicalistic]

When i play survivalist, i always use the Frost Fang with Heavy Weapons Training and Melee Expert. Its the perfect weapon with the extra movement and melee speed boost, melee damage for weaker zeds, and since the Frost Fang is also a shotgun you have the faster reload speed. You basically turn into Doomguy.

[@ReapeeRon]

That is a very fun build too.

[@coffee0093]

Survivalist is the best! You can carry a full FPS arsenal, be a tanky boi, and with the melee perk you can do the classic KF1 knife sprint! I'm glad someone finally recognized how good the perk actually is, rather than whining about it

[@ReapeeRon]

They are really good as of right now.

[@coffee0093]

Yeah, I honestly think it's been good for a long while, but players never really gave it a fair chance

[@jose2D7735]

@@coffee0093 what other specific type of set ups you rock with for survivalist ?

[@ZkEcropucioVI]

Generally, multiplayer games are absolute chaos, but if you play with experienced people, there are 3 classes that stand out above the rest. 1st- Command: Is the most powerful perk by far. A good command can kill fleshpounds/scrakes single handedly and extend the zed time up to 7 times, giving 21 seconds of zed time. This is incredibly useful for a coordinated team. 2º- Gunslinger: Is the perk with the most dps in the game. It is good against small zeds and especially good against large zeds. You can fire and reload at real speed in zed time. This increases his dps enormously, being able to deal with anything. 3º- Sharpshooter: Is the useful and long distance version of the gunslinger. It doesn't have the dps of the gunslinger, but it's better at long range. He has the ability to start zed time and his grenades can freeze flespounds, preventing them from getting angry and giving you a few extra seconds to kill them. This is the triforce of kf2. Disruptive classes (firebug, berserker, demolitionist and survivalist) are not worth playing in games with experienced people. This isn't something that's going to affect vanilla hoe matches, but if you go into a server with controlled difficulty, you're most likely going to cause the team to lose. These classes simply don't provide the damage or utility to sustain these types of games, and the chaos they create will prevent your team from doing his job well, potentially causing you to lose.

[@xylem0195]

What do you mean by controlled difficulty? I’ve been doing a lot of HoE+ matches lately, and in my experience the precision perk only servers seem to have a noticeably harder time making it to wave 10, particularly if the entire map isn’t a shooting gallery like “Nuked” or something

[@sergeylukin9111]

agre.Even average 25 lvl Sparpshooter + 25 Commando bring INSANE impact in game. ZED time.Also berserk have opportunity to INFINITELY apply effect what prevent Big enemy to start Enraging.Static Strikers. Many ppl do not understand this weapon and do not know how cancel melee animations.And ppl do not understand how powerfull this weapon. Example of Damage on HoE. kzbin.info/www/bejne/i4isY2RtpZ1ghck now you can try imaging Berseker in 20s of zed time? yes he not so good in damage as gunslinger. But its same time zerker is front line,what can save teamates and take damage.

[@ZkEcropucioVI]

@@xylem0195 Controlled Difficulty (CD) is a mod that allows you to change game parameters. The usual thing is to use it to increase the difficulty. Hoe +/++, is essentially a CD with a layer on top to make it accessible to those who don't know the commands used on the CD. For some time now, CD servers belong to specific communities, which previously put together a group before starting a game. These servers are usually noticeably more difficult than the ones in hoe+/++. This doesn't mean that there isn't a good level on hoe++ servers. Precision perk hoe++ servers are ridiculously difficult for 99% of people who play vanilla hoe. Disruptive perks are much easier to master than ballistics, so it's easier to find a group of people who can go through high difficulties with disruptive perks, but a well-organized group of ballistic perks is superior. If you're interested in CD games, ask about "tamari's" discord server on hoe++ ballistics games. You will eventually meet someone who knows him.

[@xylem0195]

@@ZkEcropucioVI thanks for the information. when I saw "CD" on a server search, I thought that was some kind of region based abbreviation. Interesting. after watching some playthroughs using those settings I can see some good synergies that are not normally viable/dependable due to commando being starved for zed extensions.

[@ZkEcropucioVI]

@@xylem0195 commando with gunslinger and sharpshooter is the strongest combination. The sharpshooter will increase the zed time chance, the commando will extend the zed time, and the gunslinger will clear everything during the zed time. But it requires some knowledge. The gunslinger and the sharpshooter have to leave 6 zeds alive so the commando can extend the zed time, the sharpshooter has to prioritize killing the small zeds that can bother the takedowns of the big zeds so the gunslinger has a good line of fire . If the team is coordinated, this combination is very powerful. The map and positioning of each perk is also important. there are specific places for commando, or for a commando with a gunslinger/sharp. The best command lanes are those that spawn a lot of small zeds and very few big ones. An experienced commando can kill big zeds with 6 hp by himself, as long as they don't come constantly. If too many big zeds are coming, the command will need to be supported with a dps buff. So the command will focus on extending the zed time without worrying about getting pushed. Singleplayer lanes are often taken up by gunslingers due to their high dps and versatility, but there are times when you want more zed time, so you prioritize having 1 sharpshooter over a gunslinger, even though it suffers more from lane. Swat and support are often used when the team has enough dps to deal with the big zeds, but is having trouble getting a clear line of fire due to too many small zeds. They are also used eventually in round 1. If the team is out of ammo in the first round, it's common to take a support which will be changed in round 2 for other perk. Swat is also rarely picked in round 1 because its economy is good. You get a free armor and in the second round you sell your weapons and change the perk. You basically gain armor. The medic is only chosen when all of the team's needs are met except healing. Typically, the team can heal each other without the help of a medic, but if you find yourself playing a spawncycle where, for example, a lot of husks spawn, having someone focus on healing their teammates can be more profitable than having additional dps. It is very rare to see this level of coordination in a game of vanilla hoe. People are going to care more about being number 1 in kills than playing as a team. The experience of playing with a coordinated team is completely different and, in my opinion, much more rewarding. It's like playing another game.

[@sO_RoNerY]

I love Firebug.I always used him in Killing Floor unless the team needs a medic. Love the Firebug metal/logo/icon.

[@vortexstk2257]

Dude I agree with your medic placement, I had no idea how powerful he was.... Went from 0 to 13 in 2 games 7 waves hard mode... There was one point when I got cocky and got cornered by 3 corner flesh a monkey & zeds.... I threw gernades and sucked there blood and survived!!! Lol Med is a joke. Im a one man army baby

[@ReapeeRon]

They are really strong!

[@vortexstk2257]

@@ReapeeRonJust got kicked from a match for being to op..... unbelievable lol

[@stonedsour9140]

Sound like someone I need on my team.

[@drunkhusband6257]

On hell on earth medics are basically useless....

[@FunkyBananaBear]

Not putting Medic hands down top of S tier in team and solo was absolutely maniacal. They're SO IMPOSSIBLY STRONG AND UNKILLABLE!!! Great weapons too. Smg amazing most of the game for small zeds, and shotgun great for tough zeds.

[@Keycil]

I've never played KF2 consistently but because of that me and my friends have always gravitated towards the supporter roles to at least help the team. I had no idea how good the medic is until I tried it but I haven't played anthing else ever since. I haven't been keeping up with any meta at all but over the years this class has been the most consistent and fun for me. The whole reason I clicked on this video was to check out where the class would end up on a tier list and yeah, it's what I expected.

[@merimkastrat5846]

Survivalist has proven to be reliable. But Berserker and Medic is always S rank to me. Berserker because of hemoclobber and eviscerator combo, no matter how much its nerfed it still helped. For medic, Grenade rifle has proven to be OP if you manage to memorize any ammo boxes where they spawn. Use it when you are last man standing. Medic shotgun and medic pistol comboing helps for teammates. Also make sure you got all buffs to give teammates. It can also apply yourself, and with attack boosts it’ll help shorten the fight.

[@ReapeeRon]

That is fair.

[@couscousmagique3226]

Commando is actually more of a support role, it dosnt do well alone. I always play it with medic rifle for more support

[@ReapeeRon]

I agree with that.

[@manuelhernandez2017]

Same, or medic grenade rifle

[@Villicus]

On the contrary, with the right skills and weapons, Commando is ideally solo-ing or duoing a lane with their lane partner only to take out large zeds that the mando can't solo by himself.

[@xslowdeath420x]

I personally run Support with a medic shotgun, support boosts shotgun damage & penetration (giggity) so I just run the medic shotgun and the AA-12

[@ReapeeRon]

That is a good way to run it!

[@DarkNowInDachau]

Sharpshooter deserves more love. Gunslinger is extremely powerful but Sharpshooter is even more so with the right setup. I’m usually top 3 out of 6 in overall kills and always top the headshots and big zed kills with Sharpshooter. 3 headshots ends a scrake, 5 ends a fleshpound - and that works out really well if you have the stun bonus activated.

[@BrunoHenrique-gi1wd]

if you are playing sharpshooter alongside a comando/swat. and you are the one topping the headshots at the end of the game, then both you and the commando are playing the game wrong :v

[@Nyx_2142]

@@BrunoHenrique-gi1wd No.

[@Zenoferrum]

@@BrunoHenrique-gi1wd if you aren't running amr with akimbo 9mm and top killing then you need to rethink your freedom dispensers.

[@m2rtenA]

Idk as a swat myself i always end up 1st for headshots

[@Zenoferrum]

@@m2rtenA dude a buddy of mine recently picked up the game and has gotten most headshots as swat literally every game. And these are in games with gunslingers and sharpshooters, one of which being me and me having at least 200 more kills. Swat is just built different.

[@Sneakymatt]

babe wake up, new killing floor 2 tier list!

[@ReapeeRon]

Hope that you enjoyed!

[@tiocroc4814]

My would be: S (broken) Zerker: You can literally turn around, run with an amazing speed, and regain life. Also has great weapons. You literally only die when you mess up. Medic: Heal nades, faster seringe and heal nade launcher rifle makes you nearly unkilable. You are also really valuable to the team. A (Impactful) Gunslinger: Slowdowns big zeds, amazing DPS, great survivability with the speed, many options, OP upgraded D.eagles. Sharpshooter: Builds where you can one headshot Fleshpounds, greatest DPS of the game, Zed time generating, freeze nades save you a lot of times. Commando: Zed time reset. Seeing invisible zeds and killing trash is ok. Demo: Killing flesh pounds, explosive doors, trash cleaning is great. B (ok) Support: Ammo for teammates, holding doors. Damage is great, but you need to get closer (medium-short distance) to zeds; which can kill you. Survivalist: With some builds, you can be unkilable, or you can support the team, or you can deal decent damage; although you will never be the best at your role. Firebug: Amazing trash cleaning, there are some weapons it can use to assist on big zeds. It is a good perk, it's just that it shines on killing trash, something that every perk can do. C (meh) SWAT: Can't kill big stuff reliably, doesn't kill little stuff enough to outshine other perks. Even with all of the buffs and new weapons, I still don't see where this perk outperforms the others. It is a fun perk, but it is kinda just there. edit: for solo I think every perk is S tier

[@ReapeeRon]

That sounds fair enough to me.

[@DasMyBURRITO]

To be honest, I've been playing swat for a while and it's pretty alright. I got it half way through prestige 1 so far and it's fun enough. Just the start of it is annoying since it's a bit underpowered in my opinion

[@muatring]

SWAT is actually really good at killing Quarter Pound and Fleshpounds with a upgraded hrg nailgun. It kills them extremely fast. Swat is also really tanky with the Bastion HRG, Imo it's almost impossible to die if you have a Bastion. Only enemy SWAT suffers against is scrakes. No matter the weapon, your speed at killing them will never be as fast and effortlessly as against Trash/Pounds. Of course, this without using stun grenade.

[@GrubKiller436]

Swat has almost everything you would need. Move fast, fast reload speed, more ammo, more armor. Fast, with a bit of tankiness, and is self-sufficient. So to each their own. I can't stand being slow as that affects my evasive mobility.

[@zachwiseman9635]

My two main perks are Demo (prestige one, almost two) and Firebug. Just got into the game a week ago and your videos have been SO helpful Edit, maxed Kaboom Stick with Seal Squeal for Demo Helios Rifle and Fire Trench Gun for Firebug. Definitely need a better load out for both if I wanna solo higher difficulties

[@meatandcheesegaming3005]

I fully agree with you when it comes to your opinions about survivalist I don't know why people keep on holding on to the old stereotypes when it comes to this perk

[@ReapeeRon]

Yeah it seems really strange. It has been good for so long now.

[@ADR_JaiDe_N]

Ehhh... It's always been good . People are ignorant noobs. The ultimate setup was Hemoclober (pre-nerf) with a Tier 5 RPG or a 3rd kaboom stick. People NEVER took the melee expert skill or used the explosive skill . People never critically assess perk skills and try to make a build maximizing the benefits of said skills.

[@skepg3729]

firebug is def a tier once you have ground fire

[@xavierburger494]

I have played Endless on hell mode and can honestly say, that energy weapons will melt anything in their way. I personally feel like maxing how much damage you do with those energy weapons is key. You can solo anything.

[@YouTubeCensorsAndSuppresses]

Ron can you please do a foot race running test? You said Gunslinger was fastest. I believe Survivalist with melee perk is fastest, as I always outrun everyone.

[@ReapeeRon]

I could try that.

[@tobydammit6599]

Correct survivalist if you have the speed bonus perk with melee weapons selected is the fastest in the game. Faster than both medic and gunslinger

[@ADR_JaiDe_N]

How ? Survivalist only gets +25% speed , same as gunslinger and zerker. Medic has the potential to be the fastest in the game with Left side heal buffs build and can achieve+40% speed...

[@manuelhernandez2017]

Excellent idea!

[@AlmightyFO]

Survivalist or beserker currently?

[@AncientIdol]

I disagree with Commando being a C-tier perk. Sure, given how many times that class has been nerfed, it is still one of the best and most quintessential perks in the game. It is able to take down large ZEDs with relative ease (due to that broken FN FAL crossperk weapon that deals rifle damage instead of assault rifle damage), it can clear trash in a very effective way, and it can turn the tide of a wave by extending ZED time up to 6 times. Good Commandos can completely change and carry a game on their own.

[@BrunoHenrique-gi1wd]

you only notice how good commando is, when you dont have a good commando.

[@Zakillah]

COM is the best class in the game if the team is coordinated.

[@ricoryan3540]

The looped piano is driving me nuts.

[@ZeroSumGamer]

I would rank Demo higher because the Kaboom stick kind of solves Demo's untankiness issue. Just shoot it once anywhere if you are swarmed by small Zeds and you are safe. And you can push yourself back with the alt fire for large Zeds. I would rank SWAT lower for multiplayer because their weapons are weak at boss waves. Commando and Support weapons are also weak at bosses. I find picking Medic in solo a good way to start out higher difficulties. Also, why can't Survivalists pick freeze grenades?

[@dragula131]

IDK swat is my go to and even on HOE I still hold my own in 6 mans. Survivalists now I saw the other night have the ability to choose their starting weapon and grenade or go with random like it used to be. Medic is my second pick depending on what the team I'm goin with or joining has already

[@ZeroSumGamer]

@@dragula131 I always switch away from SWAT to another perk before boss wave.because bosses have 50% damage reduction to SMGs.

[@dragula131]

@@ZeroSumGamer I hear ya. I know when I'm on the boss wave I'm not dealing the big damage but I usually help by dealing with the trash that comes with so we don't get overrun. Lately I've been maining medic though lol.

[@Zenoferrum]

@@ZeroSumGamer on boss wave i usually go all in on swat tanking with the riot shield and max armor while continuously drawing agro so everyone else can go all in on damage without worrying about being insta killed.

[@reidtaylor8564]

Firebug is absolutely broken and I will stand by that

[@_2ribs511]

You should make a tier list of the best skills to run on every perk

[@Tomiyuuki]

As a firebug main, I rate it at A tier, it can protects the team from little zeds and even correctly hold big zeds with the husk canon and mostly 1st zeds killer with something like 1k+ zeds killed in long games if everything s okay 😳

[@razorblu3107]

Gah damn I had an ad every 4 min bruh good vid though but holyyyy

[@jesserimoniii6864]

You're awesome dude!!

[@ReapeeRon]

Thanks.

[@Planetrambler8735]

Can you please do another best builds series for the new update, or could someone show me a good place to find things like that?

[@OGxHxly]

So this being a yr old is it still valid still to this day, im new to the game and tryna find a new perk to run, I already have 25 firebug

[@thebestintheworld5098]

Hey reapeeron is there a version of this video without the piano riff in the background? I would love to watch the whole video just the sound track is annoying after a few minutes. Not trying to hate thanks.

[@ReapeeRon]

Sorry but no.

[@younggarde4797]

Sharp kill FP, SC and boss easy. Nade save you from trash units. M14 creates mayhem with zeds.

[@j_tha_panther]

Idk why people keep saying berserker is so good. He has to stay away from the team to make money, since all the teammates are gonna kill the seeds you’re clearly running at. And they get eaten alive by things like scrakes

[@spring7135]

If you don’t mind me asking. I just got the game today since it was free and I mostly want to play solo. What perk would you recommend me level up first? Now I know this video is pretty much solving my answer but I feel like there’s way to many perks to a new player like me to know which one is better at doing something then the other perks.

[@ryanbradleyrankin]

I started with survivalist. You can try every weapon in the game and get some idea how they work. The class has never been stronger than now.

[@hightierscrub7166]

Like what he said, I started with Survivalist, You're all around good, you get a good look at which weapons might fancy you, and around 15-20 you got a trial run of all the perks/weapons of each class, so THEN you can choose based on what loadout gave you the most fun

[@ZkEcropucioVI]

The game loses a lot if you play it alone, so although in the end I will tell you which is the best perk to play alone, I will tell you things that apply to team play. What makes perks unique is their play style and utilities, not their weapons. The only thing survivalist will do for you is to familiarize yourself with the weapons, but even with that, when you go to play another perk, you will realize that even using those same weapons, the damage and feel are different. Survivalist is not a good perk. It can do "everything", but being a perk that does not specialize in anything, it does everything worse than the rest. If you intend to play casually, you can opt for disruptive perks (berzerker, demolitionist, firebug and survivalist) They are perks with a low skill ceiling and require little to no aim to work, but don't expect knowledge of one of these perks to improve your game. If you're looking to play deeper, pick up a precision perk (commando, gunslinger, sharpshooter, swat, support and medic) over all commando, gunslinger and sharpshooter. The only reason you'd play swat over command is if there's already a command on the team. Support and medic are interesting perks, but with very specific roles that you won't be able to apply at first, which will lead you to play them in a disruptive way. That said, both commando and sharpshooter are team-oriented classes. They also work solo, but shine when played as a team. My advice is to start playing gunslinger. It is not a simple perk. It will take time to get the aim to take advantage of its full potential, but it is undoubtedly the most complete class in the game. It has the highest dps, a range of weapons that allows you to deal with any type of zed, and you can self-peel thanks to its movement speed and slow when you headshot.

[@burningblaise]

Anything but survivalist lmao

[@ryanbradleyrankin]

@@burningblaise survivalist is easily top 5 solo classes.

[@Matheus-wy4vn]

My KF2 tier list : S - Field Medic, Demolitionist, Gunslinger, Survivalist A - Commando, Firebug, Berserker, Support B - Sharpshooter C - Swat

[@ReapeeRon]

Fair.

[@Grimreaper67778]

Hey I know this is your list but commando is S tier for me for very specific reasons, cause basically out killing everyone with Assault rifle based weapons is a satisfying way to play cause everytime I play commando, Go for the STG44 and pop heads like crazy, hell even with a full server up against scrakes if you get atleast 20 bullets to the head, they go down easily, flesh pounds are the only problem due to them being resistant to bullet based weapons, but I combine that with the M16 with the under barrel granade launcher to deal with them easily, Quarter pounds usually take one, flesh pounds take 3 if all in the chest, hell even specific bosses such as patriarch and matriarch go down easily if accuracy is on point, but like I said this is your list on how you play, I'm just saying the way I play, Commando is broken half the time

[@SuperNova-nl5eb]

"supports don't do well with bosses" hold my beer *loads doomstick*

[@tobydammit6599]

Having been at max prestige on all classes for over years now. Very skilled and knowledgeable on all weapons and perks. So im just basing this on my skill which again i consider for this game (disgusting amount of hours on it) to be very high. Enough bragging but heres my two cents worth. S - survivalist, Medic, Sharpshooter, Firebug A - Beserker, Demo, Support B - Gunslinger, Commando C - Swat Basing this all on MP. I have carried so many rounds solo over the years with all S and A classes. But with anything B and C classes if you run out of ammo or get cornered? Youre dead. Firebug can run out of ammo, true but the husk cannon is so OP and has such a huge mag (especially if you have another weapon) youre unlikely to run out. And the rest of the classes all have weapons where even without ammo they can still do damage/parry. Sharpshooter has the second best grenades in the game. And since he has the bayonet rifle he can parry and do insane headshot damage plus melee stab. Demo has the boom hammer (forgot the name) that does damage even if you run out of ammo. And again the husk cannon is so OP for demo too that it does no self range damage like demo’s other weapons. Gunslinger is ok. But you kind of have to have either the deagles or piranna or glocks which make for a very uninteresting playstyle. Anything else simply isnt worth it and again if you run out of ammo in a bad spot, RIP. Commando even with the drone is still pretty bad although the drone/minigun combo is great for holding up in a corner. Swat is the worst. Just no real damage there. Great rate of fire on his higher tier guns and his level 25 battering ram is one of the funnest level 25 perks in the game. Also appreciate his passive buffs in terms of not really taking physical damage a whole bunch. But his dps is just too weak. Anything that he does the commando can do better.

[@ZkEcropucioVI]

Sorry to tell you Toby, but your experience hours are based on very low level play. You seem like a person who wants to improve, so I recommend you to look for CD/hoe++ servers You will improve in a week more than in the years you have been playing in hoe lobbies. I advise you to go into these servers with the mindset that you are most likely the worst player in the lobby by far. I'm not telling you this because I think you're a bad player. I'm sure you're skilled enough to consistently be a standout player in vanilla lobbies, but not CD lobbies. Disruptive perks (survivalist, zerk, firebug, demo) are banned for good reasons, and you'll be instantly kicked out of the game if you play them. The railgun, the sharpshooter's m99, and tier 5 upgrades are also often banned. Forget half the things you've learned. I will give you some examples. Something that is considered basic in these servers but that nobody does in vanilla hoe. when you hold along with a command, you have to leave live zeds for it to extend the zed time. In ideal conditions, the command will give 21 seconds of uninterrupted zed time, allowing things like the gunslinger to kill all 3 fleshpounds and 2 scrakes spawned at once. In a normal game, the command will never extend the zed time, but in a cd game, it will always. Here people do not fight for the kills. Everyone understands their role and helps each other. The sharp will always use his freeze grenades to save his teammates. Command is never going to initiate a scrake or flespound takedown if he has a sharp or gunslinger next to him. The medic will focus on healing. he's not going to poison the big zeds or use the hemgoblin because he knows that's counterproductive and because he knows his teammates are going to 100% kill the big zeds before they cause a problem. People are not going to get in front of your line of fire. Dps perks (gunslinger/sharpshooter) gets the agro. It's not uncommon for a single gunslinger to have killed over 90 large zeds in the match and dealt 400k+ damage. As a personal tip, play sharpshooter, gunslinger, or commando. Find one of these servers, explain to people that you are new to this mode, that you want to learn, and that you are sorry for any mistakes you are going to make. If you listen to what people tell you, you will find yourself surrounded by the best kf2 players and you will learn a lot.

[@tobydammit6599]

@@ZkEcropucioVI stopped reading the moment you started mentioning “banned perks”. Another reason although having a pc, literally never opting to play this game on pc. Head so far up people’s asses for a literal video game. “Ya you might be good but have ya used less weapons” get real m8. Also on console literally no one plays hell on earth. again this is literally my main game and HOE games are far and few. But id rather play sucicidal than play with stuck up twats like you. “This gun is usually instantly banned” Get real nerd. Been playing this game for literally years. Nothing like that has ever even come close to happening.

[@HupCapNinja]

Dude really put SWAT on C Tier?! It’s literally one of the best classes in the game.

[@ulreen6969]

this guy is a crab asf, ignore his opinion

[@VlIl]

S Medic, Demo, Gunslinger A Sharpshooter B Support, Swat, Berserker, Kommando C Survivallist, Firebug Ranked in HOE 6 Player matches and in my opinion From left to right, left being better and right is worst

[@tham3s24]

Survivalist in C tier? I won't questioning your skill or your understanding about utilizing the perk, but really?

[@bdute7890]

The sentinel makes commando so much better.

[@sL1NK]

Commando, Demo & Slinger are definitely S tier tbh.

[@j_tha_panther]

If I made a tier list medic would be in S++ If I got a dollar for the amount of times I’ve made an unskilled team get a win i could get all the dlc weapons😂 And a lot of times when the medic dies the whole squad dies shortly after

[@ReapeeRon]

That would be fair.

[@stonedsour9140]

Hard to find a good medic. Most don't do their job or do it enough.

[@j_tha_panther]

@@stonedsour9140 what’s too much health gonna hurt?😂

[@Zarrakon]

@@j_tha_panther love your pfp uwu

[@j_tha_panther]

@@Zarrakon thx

[@PrapalyFree]

Let’s go boy!!! Support Main for life. My shottie is my hottie

[@ReapeeRon]

Support has always been a really strong class!

[@manuelhernandez2017]

Same bro... 👍

[@svmuscle7677]

been playing a lot of demo and thought it was way too op, but I guess I must just be really good with it lol... also the sharpshooter has always been one I liked for the pure challenge of it

[@aBatwoman]

Gunslinger best class forever. Berserker was super broken.

[@davidmcrae4791]

Throwback to when commando was actually good

[@manoliss9554]

Killing floor in Playstation is unplayable today because has so much lag

[@ReapeeRon]

That sucks.

[@dragonwolfy7599]

I wish Commando was a scrake killer. You would think he would be since he specializes in bullet storms much like SWAT but nope, they are just a trash killer.

[@doobydoes4956]

The music made the video unbearable to watch. The same 3 to 4 chords gave me a headache :(

[@ReapeeRon]

Sorry about that.

[@jerichoasis2505]

Hello, just a question, how do you play this game with only 2 players?? Is it not possible? I've been trying to figure it out but I think im missing something...

[@ZkEcropucioVI]

If you want to play alone with a certain number of people, you have to create a game with a password

[@jerichoasis2505]

@@ZkEcropucioVI I've tried that but whenever i try to start the game it says looking for a match.. orr something along those lines..

[@ZkEcropucioVI]

@@jerichoasis2505 Sometimes it is difficult to find servers. Try letting the game choose the map. What interests you is that the game looks for any server in which you can put a password. You can kill yourself and change the map once you're inside. As a last resort you could open an external server, but that is much more complicated.

[@jerichoasis2505]

@@ZkEcropucioVI Oohh, okeoke Imma try that, thanks so much!!

[@williamhewitt7791]

I completely agree with this. Commando and swat are by far the weakest classes in the game in my opinion. There like a support but with worse weapons. Or a firebug but with worse perk upgrades. Damage medic is also really strong, build a locust and you can function as a firebug or commando late game. The locust just destroys all of the weaker zeds instantly.

[@icata12345]

everything else kinda got powered up while they are left behind

[@mizuyaki2236]

Eh? Survivalist got a buff? I thought it was the weakest... But then again I stopped playing a long long time...

[@ReapeeRon]

Yeah Survivalist is quite strong now.

[@djnotnice108]

Commando for the win with my god gifted SCAR-H

[@ReapeeRon]

Scar is pretty good.

[@JW20084]

Sharpshooter C tier??????? Whoa lol

[@ADR_JaiDe_N]

I know . Lol silly . Pathfinders tier list is more accurate

[@frostysimo1394]

static strikers still really good for berserker

[@ReapeeRon]

Yeah, not really my thing but good.

[@frostysimo1394]

@@ReapeeRon I'm a big fan of "rate of fire" in terms of berserker weapons like the katana for early game static stickers for end game and maybe ion thruster if I'm feeling it my favourite perk is field medic, it's the only perk I've promoted 3 times so yeah

[@Johnny-bj4sv]

Ive always felt like Commando has been a super lack luster play style. I dont feel impact and survivability seems whatever. I think you appropriately set the tier for it

[@ReapeeRon]

Thanks Johnny!

[@Villicus]

How the fuck are commando and sharpshooter bottom tier? Those two specifically offer team utility that the others cannot and don't sacrifice everything else just for their unique offerings to the team

[@Zarrakon]

Sharpshooter is in a bad spot and commando is definitely meh, they’re extension bots

[@meatandcheesegaming3005]

🤔Well I hope you like it when I play Commando🤪

[@ReapeeRon]

Sure! I am fine with commando.

[@-neuro]

My commando is still level 1 I never play it lol I am a firebug/medic main

[@zacharys6571]

I've been trying to do this challenge myself but I have not been able to complete it basically the challenge is to beat hell on earth (any amount of waves) as the berserker but you can only use the lawn mower blade maybe you could make a video about it

[@ReapeeRon]

Awesome, I have done that twice I think. They are older videos though, I also did it once as Medic.

[@attezirux]

support and swat 10/10

[@whyyoustalking.d0]

They reset my account 💀

[@nolimitcarti3539]

Pathfinder and I would disagree on this list how to is swat better than commando swat is pew pew pew yellow ki blasts commando is powpowpow blue ki blasts

[@Blntsmk4]

Really help a nigga out which perk is best going for late rounds wit a group of ppl??

[@ReapeeRon]

Medic. Take the Healthrower and the Hemogoblin. You can keep everyone alive and add tons of debuffs to enemies.

[@Killzone2867]

Wtf commando c 😂😂😂 never ever this perk is s tier

[@ADR_JaiDe_N]

A-S yes . These are just his opinions.

[@anandjames1212]

Tbh honest ur tier is very good and all the info u r giving is great but ur music is rlly annoying

[@ReapeeRon]

Thanks, and thanks.

[@zacpanich4013]

Glocks got me like 🤮

[@younggarde4797]

You are deluded. Sharp on solo kills all. And ice nade can save from everything. Support and Gunslinger boring most boring perks ever. I dunno how you create this list.

[@elwiwi4638]

S, demo, medic A, B, C, D, E, Support, berserker F, the other ones it is ranked this way because i do not like them !

[@milanfrags]

Honestly... this tierlist is a bad (didnt want to be rude and write joke). The fact that you put commando, one of the most important perks with one of the biggest roles which is zed extensions, proves my point.

[@Zarrakon]

Having multiple commandos is bad and you don’t even necessarily need 1.

[@chaelcanterbury8787]

This is all so wrong that it's not worth salvaging by criticizing particular details, the whole video and approach are garbage.

[@Zarrakon]

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