Kilowatt Half Hour Episode 36: Seven seaters, Cybersters, Fords and affordables! | Electrifying.com

[@TIHIR1]

Your channel has converted a total petrolhead, I collect my e:Ny1 Monday. The reviews and explanations of tech and cars etc and the plain quality of your videos is excellent. Thank you! :)

[@TIHIR1]

Edit a little review :) ​ OK I picked up my new e:Ny1 Advance yesterday. First impressions are really good, especially given as it has such poor reviews on KZbin etc. Build quality is usual Honda, very good and well though out but also has a few Honda quirks such as the rather pointless rear sunroof shades lol (who thought that was a good idea??? lol) Ergonomically and visually the interior is almost perfect and so much nicer than many Korean or Chinese and similar BEVs with their 'starship' designs (OK maybe I'm getting long in the tooth and old lol). It feels surprisingly roomy (especially in the back!). Well appointed does not cover half of the goodies that come standard in the Advance model and even the usually 'intrusive' driving aids are not too bad! Now that Honda have slashed £5k off the asking price of this car and allowing for the insane level of goodies fitted as standard, it starts to make quite good value and a far more sensible purchase than on its original release. One worry was the range, many testers stating very poor real world results... I have been getting around 3.8-4km per kilowatt, admittedly that's in Eco mode, only light use of the AC and fairly sedate driving, but not without some fun occasionally in sport mode trying out the power 🙂 This is pretty close to the stated 256 mile range. Of course no heat-pump, so winter will see this drop a good amount, but it has eased my fears about winter range considerably! Performance is really quite impressive given its a family small SUV although as some testers did report, 200BHP with a linear torque curve of an EV does overpower the front tires quite easily, but nothing scary and rather good fun! I'm struggling to understand the lack of love for this car, yes its no Type R, nor is it a high end luxury wagon, but for a solid all rounder, family SUV with a stylish if understated look and great features baked in as standard I am super happy with my purchase (and I tried a LOT of cars before I went for the 'Erny' lol) I hope this might be of use to anyone thinking about this car... Try one, you may be surprised :) ​

[@anthonystevens8683]

Congratulations for recruiting Vicky, one of the very best car reviewers online. She is a no nonsense reviewer and that's what we need. Cracking video all.

[@coogycoogman3715]

Another great podcast. I always look forward to them. You were the reason for me going electric👍👍👍👍👍

[@stephenmuddell1383]

Welcome back podcast!!! You were saying you'd like to see larger EV's with smaller batteries - I'd like to see a small affordable EV with a huge battery! When you can't charge at home, or at work, a range of 400+ miles would reduce the number of times sitting at a pubic charger.

[@timrothwell33]

It's interesting that part way through the video the team talk about the need for smaller battery cars and how that should be possible because of the improved EV charging infrastructure. Plus, they said, it's daft to have 80kWh battery packs you hardly ever use. And then when discussing the comparison between the Explorer and Mach-E they chose the Mach-E even though the Explorer has the smaller battery and is much more efficient.

[@CarlosFandango1975]

Top Tip, I use a £15 Wi-Fi smart plug adapter with my dishwasher, hot tub and electric heater in the winter to turn them on during the cheap nighttime tarrif. Washing machine I set the delay setting to end at 6am. Over the year it probably saves a fair bit of money

[@w-wanderers]

Loving seeing Vicky as part of the team, her comment about the usable capacity was spot on! I wish the kilowatt half house was a daily release, can we make that happen? 😂 Great team, great vibes, great work! 😊

[@stevejordan4299]

My unsung hero is the original 28kWh Ioniq. A very efficient car and well equipped.

[@sbomorse]

I've done over 42K miles on my 2021 Kona Electric and it's been an amazing car. Hyundai hit the ground running with EV's. I had the Ioniq Hybrid before my Kona and it was a nice car.

[@BMWHP2]

Yeahhhh, my favorite EV program, thanks to all for the work. We have been riding cabrio's and coupes for all our live, but dont have the $ for the Cyberster. So, we are anxiously awaiting our ë-C3 Max, (11kW AC charger, black with white roof) We will have to be patient till end October .😁

[@johnskinner7989]

I really enjoy your videos and related articles about everything EV. One thing I'd like to request; as more controls are buried deep in the infotainment menus could you try the voice controls to see if they actually work whilst driving. Some things like changing the temperature, radio station, and making a telephone call. Some cars fail dismally, a friend of mine used to have problems calling her husband Dennis using voice commands, did start a call - 'calling dentist'...

[@Jaw0lf]

We do need the cheaper cars that are also slower 0-60 to help keep the insurance costs down for drivers. Not that long ago a 0-60 under 6 seconds was in supercar territory. Another great episode thank you!

[@rogerfinch7651]

E golf is my unsung hero. Efficient as anything and it’s a golf!

[@riaz8783]

The thing against short range cars is that so many of us live in flats and homes without home charging options. Long range isn't just about going long distances

[@karlInSanDiego]

Out of Buzz, Ioniq 5, etc you listed, I'd have the ID7. Bring back cars as the norm. We need to dump crossovers, which as the name suggests, were supposed to cross over SUV buyers back to cars, damnit. Yes welcome Vicky. Great to see you join the team.

[@karmanline2005]

Manufacturers will make whatever sells. Ordinary hatchbacks are not so popular these days

[@izwizbiz3471]

Tariffs - Also worth considering, specially if you have home battery storage, is Eon Next Drive V3 at 6.9p/kWh for 7 hours. I use no peak rate electricity as the house runs from my batteries all day.

[@rogerwilliams7234]

Unsung hero - MG5! The first and only estate EV for too long. A great car.

[@TassieEV]

Glad the podcast is back, was worried you had wrapped it up but not had any posts as to why. But yes had a lot of new car reviews and nice to see ALL of the team involved not just a single reviewer getting to go around the EU doing car launches while everyone else got stuck in the UK.

[@snootbritton]

E-golf for unsung hero. Drives beautifully, cheap, well built, and doesn't look like a bloated mess (ID3/Born!)

[@1234tohw]

I just got a used 2020 e-up! this june. Have been very impressed with how nice it is to drive and how far I seem to be able to make it go. Generally using the eco modes I get an estimated 250-300+ km range mixed driving. Now going out on highways changes things, but so far I have been easily able to get where I need to go and back with no hassle. I would say driving lots of highway stretches around 100km/h I probably get near 180-200km maybe. Will be taking my first longer trip this summer, about 600 km to a neighboring country, I will get a good feel for how long it goes on non-stop highways then. Personally can't wait for the Inster, if I am in a good position to do so, I could easily see myself upgrading from the e-up to that one as I feel the drivetrain, infotainment of the Hyundai/Kia line seem to be some of the best in the industry. On top of all that plus the super practical shape and interior, it has Vehicle to Load.

[@sbomorse]

I've just ordered an AWD bZ4X to replace my 2021 Kona Electric. Also managed to finally convert my Mom to an EV - she just bought an 18 month old DS3 E-Tense with only 10K miles for under £15K! It's lost £20K in value in 18 months. Now is the time to buy a used EV!!!

[@jamesmccormack3229]

Just sitting minding my own business listening to the podcast on KZbin and boom, I heard my name as you read my comment. I nearly gave myself whiplash checking if I had heard right! Haha 😂 as always, I love the channel and the reviews, guys!

[@thelaserhive3368]

Oh thanks Ginny. Dave here again! Just stunned to hear my comment read out. At the moment I’m driving an eGolf and we can still get wheelchair, me, partner and dog into it. But in the future the Alpine Renault 5 derivative is on my wish list ! Though I’d love to be able to get everything into a Cyberster, I don’t think that’ll happen.

[@evkx]

Great podcast. Just wanted to add reasons to buy Q8 over Q6 - Better seats. You get indivudal countour seats with massage and ventilation. Probably one of the best seats in the market, but it is an expensive option (Q6 can only massage OR ventilation depending on seat option) - Better rom in second row. - Interior quality. More expensive material and options. As en example you cant get the Q6 with full leather dashboard

[@CarlosFandango1975]

Really informative chat today. Love the leaseing chat too Keep up the non propaganda honest ev chat

[@sunnyd6291]

Yeah right on guys cars are being released so slowly glad your back!!!!! What's happening with the situation with tariffs on cars coming into the uk??? Lol Tom your normally not enthusiastic unless it's a nissan leaf!! Ginny please don't paint mustard on your walls seriously start a poll about it on this channel...Tom totally agree with your points on the inster

[@AlistairHughes]

Tom seems to be forgetting all the people like myself who can't charge at home. We need to carry cable with us at all times so that we can charge at work, or while shopping, or eating out, or staying at a hotel, etc. We don't want to be rapid charging all the time. We want to slow charge to protect our batteries and occasionally save a bit of money. And none of the slow chargers (officially fast - but we really need to review the names) come with cables attached. Having a frunk (no problem with using that term, as a trunk is a form of storage), means you can keep your cable separate from your shopping, luggage, or whatever you're carrying in your boot. This is especially important in the UK, as you don't want to be sticking a wet, dirty cable into the same compartment as your shopping or luggage. I appreciate a frunk is extra cost to the manufacturers. Hinges, gas stays, and packaging will add cost and effort to their products. But, since 40% of the UK cannot charge at home, and that's not going to change any time soon (I've been speaking to my council for 3 years now, and while there are signs of progress for certain properties it still looks likely that around 1/3 of the UK will never be able to charge at home), then carrying cables will be necessary unless every charger becomes tethered. So, while your cables might still be in their wrappings, anybody who can't charge at home will use their cables on a regular basis. And we want a place to store them.

[@urbanstrencan]

Another great podcast, great to see you back talking all things EV 😊❤❤. And MG Cyberster is what Lotus should be doing instead of big heavy SUVs.😅😂 Audi should give us A6 E-tron Avant first we need electric station wagons 😊❤❤❤.

[@timscott3027]

Im really looking forward to the inster, i cant wait to see one in person. The interior space and practicality is amazing for its size, sliding rear seats honestly it looks to be an amzing small car (despite it unfortunately being a crossover) Its like a European kei car, its the first car ive seen in a long time that im actually genuinely excited about.

[@karmanline2005]

The Kia Soul is our unsung hero. We're getting another one while we can!

[@johnkellett7797]

As we are not in the EU WHY will the UK have to put the extra tax on Chinese EVs. Norway has a closer 'relationship' with the EU and won't be adding an extra tax to Chinese EVs. Also, people buy SUVs because they are the only ones for sale!

[@vp272]

Love this podcast episode, great to see these experienced reviewers ❤ Tom, are you able to give more cheap cash purchase discounted EV’s? Autotrader do a lot of offers.

[@neil300zx]

Hi Tom, octopus intelligent go has 6 hrs of cheap rate between 1130 and 0530 @7 ppkwh. Plus when the grid is green outside of those time octopus still allow you to charge at the cheap rate outside the 6 hour slot 😊

[@markbennett6658]

A couple of points. Tom should have referenced the Octopus Agile tariff. I have solar and battery as well as an EV but don’t have a compatible charger or car for the Intelligent tariffs. If you use the Octopus Compare app which I recommend it seems that I’m still better off with Agile than either the dumb Go or Flux tariffs. Secondly for Ginny if her tumble dryer, which will be much hungrier for electrons than her washing machine, doesn’t have a built in delay put a plug-in one into the wall socket, program it for midnight to 5am and plug the dryer into that! Lastly I agree with Tom that neither the latest Kona or the Inster are easy on the eye. The latter has a face like Farage😂

[@joolsmorgan7032]

As Tesla hardly gets a mention on Electrifying I'm going to nominate them as my unsung hero. Their offering 0% interest PCP on new Model 3's at the moment! Enjoying the channel, keep up the good work.

[@Wheelchairuser90]

Please don’t choose that mustard colour sample on your wall. That with all that dated orange pine will be too much! (The spooky door opening was a highlight!)

[@mikeburgess8801]

Great episode! I love the look of the Inster, looks a great, roomy, affordable car. Not sure I. The name, but looking forward to the Mercedes Facebo. The Vauxhall Threa abd the Ford Tikto . Keep up the good work!

[@karmanline2005]

Reg service plans. The manufacturer backed ones are portable between dealers (within the franchise of course) whereas dealers' own plans are not valid at othe dealers, which causes problems if the dealer loses the brand or goes bust. Id say a manufacturer service plan is the best compromise between cost and peace of mind, especially when they are subsidised.

[@Pottery4Life]

Thank you. I would go with the explorer. Ginny - Don't your ghosts know when you are filming?

[@ObiePaddles]

I agree on battery size. Very efficient small cars would be awesome. Need an easy 6 miles / kwH and then dont need more than 40 KwH. We even survived with the original 42.5 kWh on the MG ZS EV and that was fine for 150 miles with no effort which was great for us until we did much more regular journeys > 150 miles.

[@FFVoyager]

I'm still 'surviving' with a 28kWh Ioniq - 150 mile range in this weather, 6mi/kWh achievable, charges to 80% in 15 minutes. (They are also stupidly cheap currently - the Premium SE with all the goodies is an absolute bargain)

[@dewarmc]

Another great Kilowatt 43 minutes team, it's lovely to see Vicky again, love her car reviews, oh and Ginny, was there a ghost in the house that opened your door, or a cat we couldn't see, and Tom, could I ask how is the "L" is doing, did you resolve the issue, still curious, hope you didn't mind me asking. :-)

[@Clar-K.T]

Ionic 5 would top my list if not the security issue. Since it’s not been resolved as far as I know and I don’t want my car stolen, it’s Ariya for me today. Maybe the Inster when it’s out.

[@markcornwall8132]

Unsung hero would have to be the Kia Soul.

[@stephenwensley9328]

The insta reminds me of some of the beige cooking gadgets my grandmother used to have from the 50s. Wouldn’t be surprised if it came with a tobacco faded yellow floral wallpaper interior decor option

[@thelaserhive3368]

Advance Payment on Motability cars went up quite a bit on 1 July ( for the 3 months to September). My feeling is that this is a “try it on” tactic that precedes a drop in September when all manufacturers are looking to try and meet their ZEV mandate targets. Definitely agree that the bargains will be here in the last quarter of 2024.

[@StevePowell]

My unsung hero would have to go to a second hand I-Pace, such a gorgeous car and amazing value now, get a high spec model which cost somebody £75k - £85k and can now be had for some teens of thousands. Real drivers car, and practical to boot.

[@RobVerleg-mf9hx]

I enjoyed this podcast, again 🕺

[@brummiesalteno-81]

The Spanish word for frunk/froot mixes frente (front) and Maletero (luggage holder) maleta is a suitcase. I like it. 😊

[@karlInSanDiego]

People learn by the second EV they own that they don't need to be so afraid of not having 300+ miles range.

[@PaulMeier-cu3ds]

Great to see you back after a bit. A thing you touched on is that we do not really need huge batteries and tremendous range for most driving cases - and not just in cities. Your problem is you all do a lot of mileage so range matters to you and gives an unconscious editorial bias. My first car, a 1970s Mini, would go between 150 and 200 miles between fill ups, and usually I did not leave it till near empty. That worked perfectly well in the 1970s and I am not sure what has changed so much since. The 10 to 80% EV charge is probably not realistic. If I go back to Mini 1970s days something like a 40 to 80% charge time would be more like my lived experience. 40-80% in most cars you review will not take too much longer than an ICE fill up, loo stop, and a coffee. Why the anxiety?

[@niallf1054]

Hi all, thanks for another great podcast. Looking for some expert advise. We are strongly considering upgrading our 15 year old second car (diesel) which is used for ferrying our 3 kids around,....school runs, kids training, trips to the shop etc....mostly within 15-20 km of home. We have driven the Ioniq, Leaf and E-golf. The e-golf being our favourite so far in terms of how it drives and practicality of the boot space...however the Leaf is very hard to ignore in terms of used prices here in Ireland. We are likely to keep the car for at least 5 years due to limited mileage so my question is which one would you buy ? Thanks Niall

[@Stephen-fs5rj]

Intelligent Octopus is 6 hours (11.30-5.30) at 7p per kwH

[@synthmaker]

Not quite, it's 6 guaranteed hours but I often charge during the day and get the same lower tariff I get during those 6 hours, not only for charging the car but also for any other electricity I use in my home. As I don't have a home charger and just plug to the 3 pin wall socket and charge at 2kW, almost all electricity I use is at the lower rate, a lot more than just the 6 guaranteed hours. That's why when they said Ovo was cheaper than Octopus it was not true as they use a different system that doesn't give you the cheaper rate during the day.

[@stephenappleby7897]

Also Intelligent Octopus works with a wide range of EVs not just certain chargers.

[@AlanTov]

Great stuff.

[@nr5494]

I do enjoy these KW0.5hs! My unsung hero. BMW i3. Carbon fibre & aluminium construction, 170bhp, RWD, clap hands frameless doors, real character, and an absolute hoot to drive. And if it wasn’t a hybrid, I’d also say the i8, which still looks incredible. Oh BMW, how did you lose your way so badly with your current lineup of ugly bloaters?

[@bennettcooper8739]

Shame that the slide-in additional battery of Fiat Panda concept hasn't progressed. Home battery or car battery which you can add and subtract as desired is so sensible.

[@julianheritage6436]

Enjoy your video content, very down to earth and real world. Of those choices, don’t like Hyundai’s or either Ford, would take the ID Buzz even with the range. I went for a Mercedes EQB 250+ AMG Line Premium for a very good price on salary sacrifice (far cheaper than those prices)

[@philgalpin9284]

Unsung hero, has to be the Smart Fortwo. Perfect for small families (aging population) with enough autonomie without taking public transport (global warming). Cheap to buy, second hand and enough space for all the shopping. Shame Smart lost their way

[@karlInSanDiego]

If Polestar had dealerships, you might amble into a showroom seeking Polestar 2 and get interested in a Polestar 4. But alas, Geely completely screwed up treating Volvo and Polestar separately and the later gets no support from the Volvo dealership network. You can't swing a cat without striking three Tesla's here in SoCal, but Polestars are noticeably underrepresented here in San Diego. I see BMW i4s here all the time, but no Polestars. They're failing to make an impact here.

[@robsmith1a]

The people who really need help with EVs are those who can't charge at home. It's still much easier to have an ICE in that situation. My home charger isn't tethered. I don't use it at present because I went back to a cheap convertible (12 year old SLK) and that's not currently an EV option

[@kevinbarriball4049]

I'd definitely go for top of range Ioniq 5 with those lease prices

[@MrGMawson2438]

Electric car sales worldwide grow and media has melt down (or just lies) The Electric Viking 221K

[@rio8677]

ID7 all the time❤

[@neildolan7177]

Affordable electric cars are great, but if the companies making them are losing money, it's not good.

[@thelorax9622]

That MG's biggest hurdle is the name. It sounds like a five year old named it. I'd be embarrassed to tell people my car's name and that's not a good start.

[@MrGMawson2438]

Zeekr are part of geely and they're great

[@martinwray7001]

Poltergeist at 15:35

[@simonevans8979]

Stellantis have just killed my aftermarket for the E208. My car just lost 5k, in advance of the Election and resultant changes. Great time to buy, mind...

[@mikadavies660]

Need to keep pushing forward on affordable cars. The Microlino is very very cute but is still way too expensive.

[@karlInSanDiego]

MG4 might be a good smallish car for a wheelchair user.

[@MrGMawson2438]

Cheers

[@brummiesalteno-81]

Perhaps a frunk should just be called 'BS' bonnet storage. 😉

[@Guinnessisgoodforyou]

Is Tom one of these people who goes around switching of lights behind everyone and forgets to put one on when he needs it 😂 why is he always in the dark? Can someone’ shed some light’ on this 😂

[@Electrifyingcom]

The shine from my head upsets the camera sensors.

[@DavidPlayfair]

Spooky door! :)

[@garybarham3992]

Maybe it was Casper the friendly ghost

[@MrGMawson2438]

Afternoon all

[@rogerfinch7651]

Hi patchy wall. 👍😉😂

[@MrGMawson2438]

GM posts record EV sales in America - offsetting big losses in China The Electric Viking

[@gonzaloleviatanh]

Hope Volvo parent company brings the Zeekr to the UK

[@judebrown4103]

You missed the point of that question about dealers going bust. I'm pretty sure the question was about a garage no longer being an MG dealer. He has a long term, maybe three year service plan, so not talking about a warranty. He's paid for three services, possibly along with MOT's, in advance for a supposed discount but now has nowhere to redeem them.. He wants to know what his rights are. I only clocked it because my Huyndai dealer keeps trying to get me to sign up for their package when I get it MOT'd or it goes in for a recall. For all their clever video health check I make a point of never trusting dealers so I have Cleevely come and service mine at home. Oh and I only get it MOT'd there because all my local garages are EV phobic! Unsung hero is our Ioniq 38kWh, fantastic range, great spec on the Premium, add leather cooled seats if you like that sort of thing on the Premium SE. Shame they stopped making it but now my wife has designs on the Ioniq 6! Enjoyed the chat folks, cheers👍💚

[@CarlosFandango1975]

I left the original question. Howard’s had several mg garages across the south west but have recently lost the mg dealer status. My new MG came with 4 years free servicing from them but now they are a Vauxhall dealership I can’t transfer the services to another mg garage. I assumed I’d got free mg servicing but alas it’s now gonna be a Vauxhall one 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@judebrown4103]

@@CarlosFandango1975 oh dear I was only half right😄 Strange it's non transferable under the circumstances but I guess it's not quite as bad a loss as I was thinking. At least it wasn't a paid-for plan, small mercies and all that eh? Annoying if that was one of the benefits that persuaded you to buy the car...hope you can communicate that to MG and get it settled fairly. 🙏

[@CarlosFandango1975]

@@judebrown4103 I’ll have to carry on having non dealer full service history but without updates I guess. Warranty problems are now a 2 hour drive away now there’s no mg dealers in Somerset. Thankyou though

[@MrGMawson2438]

Geely is good

[@mikadavies660]

Polestar are indeed trying to be different, but for the money it doesn't bring anything compelling to the table.

[@lucaswilson1701]

I thought this had ended 😭😭 Noy happened for a few weeks

[@stephenwensley9328]

I’d buzz, 7 seater GTX in white yellow two tone at that price please🤞

[@jamesmccormack3229]

My unsung hero has the be the Old sadly gone BMWi3 I know it's range wasn't great but for city/town everyday real world use for a small household I feel it was just 👌 loved the odd looks and spaceship interior, even now wen I see one can't help but miss it. Think bmw missed a trick by not using wat they learnt from that model wen in production.

[@MrGMawson2438]

40:55 I'd say Tesla if I can

[@MrGMawson2438]

36:04 I'm back

[@nealy2815]

Explorer better looking than the mach e.

[@MrGMawson2438]

Fisker 😆

[@RichardHilditch]

Where are they? Stuck in Japan under the thumb of the 20th century Toyota company that rules that whole country.

[@tomnewton440]

Stop complaining about cheap electric cars, we need them, I don't care about looks, about cheap plastics, the Hyundai Inster is just what we want, small car which is bigger on the inside than their ICE comparisons, with Heat Pump, good range....

[@ObiePaddles]

Completely disagree with mandating a frunk. Unnecessary regulation. If it makes a difference to sales then the manufacturers will put one in.

[@Paul-hu3zr]

There is no point having a "Frunc" for your cable if your charge point is at the rear of the car. I have an ID4.

[@timrothwell33]

Errrr......why?

[@Paul-hu3zr]

@@timrothwell33 Why needlessly carry the cable from front to back of the car and then back to the front after charging, walking between the cars carrying it. Very unlikely I'll use an AC charger and my Type2 cable while the boot is full.

[@karlInSanDiego]

Interesting to hear you speaking about a 4 or 5 hour window of cheaper electricity. The numbskulls trying to run EV pickup trucks here require twice as much power each night for the same distance commute compared to a far more efficient car. Some are using 80 amp chargers because they can't charge those huge batteries overnight at 11 kW/ 48 amps.

[@MrGMawson2438]

😆

[@neildolan7177]

I would love an electric car. I am currently out of work & I have been galvanised by all the vlogs. I have come to realise that there is no rush. My car has only done 50 000 kms & I can wait. Petrol cars are a small percentage of CO2 emissions & China is building coal fired power stations to manufacture EVs just so it can disrupt the market. If we don't buy Chinese EVs, we can cut emissions.

[@MrGMawson2438]

Who can remember the Suzuki Rascal

[@Paul-hu3zr]

@@MrGMawson2438 Suzuki carry Bedford Rascal, but Tom Ford, previously of this channel certainly can. Broken ties while playing around in them on Fifth Gear. 🤕

[@daverouth]

sick of SUV’s

[@Popdog76]

Love the podcast but sometimes you all have so much of a dinosaur pov. Complaining about negatives when it doesn’t meet the norm, but cant see the positives.

[@ashtaroth1975]

Tavares it's obviously bipolar

[@ashtaroth1975]

Ask Lars from @TodosElectricos about the fraletero